I've had the 2023 XC60 for about two weeks now. Sweet. It's solid, quiet, quick, and goes really long between drinks. I get about 42 miles on pure electric mode. Love the one-peddle drive mode. Great sound system. BTW. It no longer requires the supercharger. Volvo took it out with this last edition. Trust me. It does not need complexity. It will beat over 90% of the cars on the road. A Volvo, no, less!
So as someone who preordered a V60 T8... I believe all the newer recharges are dropping the supercharger, and going turbo only. But Volvo's power numbers have always been a bit fishy to me on the T8s. Mathematically they just add the gas and electric motors' figures. But even though Volvo doesn't run the electric motor in line with the gas motor, the gas motor should still be charging most of the time no? Surely in regular use, there's some parasitic loss somewhere... Regardless, Im still hoping my V60 comes through...
Have you been able to test drive one? They are brutally quick, we are buying one. We went in to get an S60 recharge but I cannot see having that much power in that small of a vehicle (wife, kids will be driving It as well). The extra heft of the XC (exact same power plant), the one we test drove it had 35 miles range.
@@steptoeson007 my comment was about specs and numbers, not driving experience. i got my car. i've tracked it. as expected, it's a riot while u have battery, but WAY down on power once the battery runs out, (which, on TMP-cayuga, took me maybe 20-24 laps). That notwithstanding, i've never owned a +200HP or a +200lb-ft TQ car prior. my butt dyno ain't qualified to tell me how close to 455HP i'm feeling down the straight away, or if i'm getting 312HP at 0% battery. Enthusiasts know we don’t get the HP on the specs sheet, at the wheels. But while it’s relatively well understood what the losses are in an ICE car, that’s less clear with hybrids. volvo doesn’t help at all with that. specs and numbers are two things that volvo has real issues with in north america. "Is the car twincharged or turbo only?" that's a pretty simple question, that different outlets couldn't agree on. Out of Spec reviews i think went all the way to europe to meet with an engineer and was told the supercharger's being deleted. the build sheet for my 2023MY car was printed in early 2022, and still listed it as being twincharged. googling my engine code pulls up zero information (B4204T57). Even on swedespeed, the jury's out as late as the end of 2022. And when volvo does half year revisions, it's hard to know what would actually come with your specific car, if your car isn't due to arrive for 6, 8, 12 months. "Does the base sound system include a sub woofer? and would it have one if i end up with a 2023.5 instead of a 2023?" how do you trust what the dealership says, when the dealership says you're getting a supercharger, but the engineer in belgium says you aren't? (and that's not even considering that european customers were being told basic features they'd optioned were no longer included in their trim, due to supply chain issues, and they'd have to move up a trim level if they wanted them). Volvo has a transparency issue when it comes to details. they're either iterating too fast (ironic for a company whose lineup had been pretty stagnant), or they simply don't feckin care.
I could be wrong, but I believe when Volvo updated both the XC60 & S60 recharges, they deleted the supercharger. I think it is now just turbocharged and electrified. "Improvements to the Recharge T8 AWD plug-in hybrid powertrain include a new long-range battery, featuring a third layer of cells to increase nominal energy from 11.6 kWh to 18.8 kWh, and a more powerful rear electric motor now delivering 143 hp (up from 87 hp)".
Thanks for the info. I've owned several Volvo's ( 2 of which have saved my life in accidents) and was concerned about the complexity of both supercharger and turbocharging in this motor. I still think they're asking a lot from a 2 liter, but at least the supercharger is gone.
With you hitting your head on the doorseal as you get into XC60, how tall are you? Which SUV/CUV will not knock heads on average height, 5'8" - 6'2" ? Thanks PS I'm at six feet, and I'm wondering if Volvo will knock some cents into my brain over time.
Hey here some greetings from Germany. I have the XC 60 T( Recharge now for 10000km and it is really a super car - but: the rear lights for driving back are only candles. Terrible at night and special in rain. Same major problem with the 360° camera at night and rain. Not acceptable for that price. Stay safe!
Yes 70K, remember you get what you pay for. I have a 2020 V60 Cross country it's awesome! I pay $57,000 3 years ago it still runs and looks brand new. The Bowers&Wilkins audio is EPIC. I will eventually buy a Volvo EV for sure!!
Nope. Wait for the 2023 models that are just starting to hit dealerships. The phev gets 50 miles of electric range (versus 35 in the '22 extended range). I also like the way the new trim packages are. You can get any color combination with the dark theme. To get the black trim before, you had to get the R Design, but that only came with the black suede seats. I don't like those seats at all, they're way too hot. Now, if you want denim blue, maroon brown seats and black trim like I want, you can do that!
just saw another vid that confirms this - the guy got 79.8km/49.5 miles all electric driving in the rain in Norway. Not highway speeds though mostly city ish driving
Is this car similar to getting into a Jeep wrangler in regard to the door opening. Im 6'-1" and have duct in thru the door opening on the jeep. Im looking at the XC60 a possible next vehicle.
I have a 2023 XC60 Recharge on the way, will be here in November, it was a hair over $70k. You say it's really fast, a sleeper and true, but honestly I will never, the 2023's are not supercharged, they are only turbo charged.
I just don't like the way large fwd vehicles drive and handle. So if I owned this I'd probably leave it in AWD mode. Which would kind of defeat the purpose.
Unfortunate if you live in a cold climate I would hold off buying until they fix the Climate system heating performance issue. Many people having issues and part is backorder for a long time. While they say you can get heat on gasoline mode. So what is the point to have an electric car if you cannot get heat in electric mode? Volvo - shame on you for not getting a fix and continue to promote a product that is not working.
I got extra warranty on my V60 Cross country its 4 years old now haven't needed it. But I got it because of all the electronics. I got 7 years 100,000 miles bumper to bumper. I love my car especially in winter !!!
It’s a great looking CUV!! That really is a fast vehicle, looks great and is likely very comfortable for me. I am only 5’8” tall, stocky but fit. I doubt getting in and out will be an issue for myself. The trick is, just duck,,,, when you get in and if you are taller, duck lower!! Hahaha. Kinda like when you own a lower car, or sports car. Getting into my different older Z cars is an exercise in agility as well!! Just duck!! Haha. The interior is mimicking the interiors of other vehicles in this class. People want a stick for shifting, even though a button, or dial works the same as nothing is directly connected to the transmission anyways. There will be people hurt as a result of the stick system there like in other vehicles. Remember when Jeep Grand Cherokees had a shifter that always returned to the same positron no matter the gear and people making errors and running over themselves?? They were forced into recalling the vehicles because people cannot accept the fact they made a mistake. Own your mistakes and move on. Don’t go blaming someone else. If only people that decide on issues like this would say that and say “No money for you! Ya screwed up!” Instead they rule that the big corporation has to pay as they should be psychic and assume there has to be an extremely slight, minuscule group that can’t figure anything out for themselves. Pay them!! Haha. I can see that happening with the new shifters again. I don’t fault the products at all and quite like them for nostalgic reasons. Gonna be a nice vehicle and 35 miles range is a great improvement!! Most buyers will be successfully commuting in EV mode only!!
@@SimonKelk All Volvos are designed in Sweden and engineered there. In the USA, some are built in the USA, most in Sweden and Belgium, and one model in China.
I love Volvo but the electric ones (t8, polestar and polestar brand) are more Chinese than swedish because geely. And two, the reliability of the t8 and polestar I'm worried about. Want it to do well, besides that 😘 amazing.
Actually, the cars from what I understand aren't made in China. Volvo still controls the production of the cars. The Chinese company only owns the brand.
That's totally correct, but it seems that people have issues to get that. The situation with Volvo owned by Geely is just how Land Rover and Jaguar are owned by TATA. The Chinese and Indian investors/company mad great investments on buying and owning these luxury car brands.
I’m not happy with CCP ownership because you just don’t know what the evil bastards will pull next. Don’t do business with them or the zRussians. Also, those little engines being supercharged and turbo changed at the same time is crazy (they do sell some like that still in other cars I believe). Adding PIEV bits just means too much can go wrong.
They kept the turbo in 2022 but dropped the additional supercharger. I’ll bet you have a single cylinder motorcycle as your mode of transportation due to the less can go wrong concern. I’m with you I prefer to pedal to work but stuff still can go wrong…believe me.
I'm 6'4" and don't knock my head in my 2023. Between that dumb comment and the fact that this guy thinks the engine is still supercharged, he has no credibility with me. He's an arrogant wise guy.
Supercharged, turbo charged, electric, German car.... it will certaintly be reliable and super cheap to fix. I can see this giving the CRV and Rav4 a serious run for thier money!
Volvo is Swedish. It has a Chinese parent company but it acts autonomously and the cars are developed, designed, engineered, road tested and crash tested in Sweden.
I've had the 2023 XC60 for about two weeks now. Sweet. It's solid, quiet, quick, and goes really long between drinks. I get about 42 miles on pure electric mode. Love the one-peddle drive mode. Great sound system. BTW. It no longer requires the supercharger. Volvo took it out with this last edition. Trust me. It does not need complexity. It will beat over 90% of the cars on the road. A Volvo, no, less!
I own this car now 6 months, I'm 184 cm in height that's way over 6 foot, and I've never hit my head once.
So as someone who preordered a V60 T8... I believe all the newer recharges are dropping the supercharger, and going turbo only. But Volvo's power numbers have always been a bit fishy to me on the T8s. Mathematically they just add the gas and electric motors' figures. But even though Volvo doesn't run the electric motor in line with the gas motor, the gas motor should still be charging most of the time no? Surely in regular use, there's some parasitic loss somewhere...
Regardless, Im still hoping my V60 comes through...
Have you been able to test drive one? They are brutally quick, we are buying one. We went in to get an S60 recharge but I cannot see having that much power in that small of a vehicle (wife, kids will be driving It as well). The extra heft of the XC (exact same power plant), the one we test drove it had 35 miles range.
you’ll always find comments from people who have not actually experienced something, but amazingly are experts!
@@steptoeson007 my comment was about specs and numbers, not driving experience. i got my car. i've tracked it. as expected, it's a riot while u have battery, but WAY down on power once the battery runs out, (which, on TMP-cayuga, took me maybe 20-24 laps). That notwithstanding, i've never owned a +200HP or a +200lb-ft TQ car prior. my butt dyno ain't qualified to tell me how close to 455HP i'm feeling down the straight away, or if i'm getting 312HP at 0% battery. Enthusiasts know we don’t get the HP on the specs sheet, at the wheels. But while it’s relatively well understood what the losses are in an ICE car, that’s less clear with hybrids. volvo doesn’t help at all with that.
specs and numbers are two things that volvo has real issues with in north america. "Is the car twincharged or turbo only?" that's a pretty simple question, that different outlets couldn't agree on. Out of Spec reviews i think went all the way to europe to meet with an engineer and was told the supercharger's being deleted. the build sheet for my 2023MY car was printed in early 2022, and still listed it as being twincharged. googling my engine code pulls up zero information (B4204T57). Even on swedespeed, the jury's out as late as the end of 2022. And when volvo does half year revisions, it's hard to know what would actually come with your specific car, if your car isn't due to arrive for 6, 8, 12 months. "Does the base sound system include a sub woofer? and would it have one if i end up with a 2023.5 instead of a 2023?" how do you trust what the dealership says, when the dealership says you're getting a supercharger, but the engineer in belgium says you aren't? (and that's not even considering that european customers were being told basic features they'd optioned were no longer included in their trim, due to supply chain issues, and they'd have to move up a trim level if they wanted them). Volvo has a transparency issue when it comes to details. they're either iterating too fast (ironic for a company whose lineup had been pretty stagnant), or they simply don't feckin care.
I could be wrong, but I believe when Volvo updated both the XC60 & S60 recharges, they deleted the supercharger. I think it is now just turbocharged and electrified. "Improvements to the Recharge T8 AWD plug-in hybrid powertrain include a new long-range battery, featuring a third layer of cells to increase nominal energy from 11.6 kWh to 18.8 kWh, and a more powerful rear electric motor now delivering 143 hp (up from 87 hp)".
This is correct. There's no longer a supercharger.
Thanks for the info. I've owned several Volvo's ( 2 of which have saved my life in accidents) and was concerned about the complexity of both supercharger and turbocharging in this motor. I still think they're asking a lot from a 2 liter, but at least the supercharger is gone.
9:55 Nathan saw a school bus and said, “heavier than a school bus.” We saw said bus a few seconds later.
With you hitting your head on the doorseal as you get into XC60, how tall are you?
Which SUV/CUV will not knock heads on average height, 5'8" - 6'2" ? Thanks
PS I'm at six feet, and I'm wondering if Volvo will knock some cents into my brain over time.
Hey here some greetings from Germany. I have the XC 60 T( Recharge now for 10000km and it is really a super car - but: the rear lights for driving back are only candles. Terrible at night and special in rain. Same major problem with the 360° camera at night and rain. Not acceptable for that price. Stay safe!
The latter 2022 model with extended battery does not have a super charger anymore
+1.. Very nice to hear from Herr Nathan,,,, again. He's the best. Cheers
Yes 70K, remember you get what you pay for. I have a 2020 V60 Cross country it's awesome! I pay $57,000 3 years ago it still runs and looks brand new. The Bowers&Wilkins audio is EPIC. I will eventually buy a Volvo EV for sure!!
Awesome! How many miles does it currently have on it? I am thinking of buying one myself.
45K it's still like NEW !!
Nope. Wait for the 2023 models that are just starting to hit dealerships. The phev gets 50 miles of electric range (versus 35 in the '22 extended range). I also like the way the new trim packages are. You can get any color combination with the dark theme. To get the black trim before, you had to get the R Design, but that only came with the black suede seats. I don't like those seats at all, they're way too hot. Now, if you want denim blue, maroon brown seats and black trim like I want, you can do that!
Got a source on that range?
You get your km and miles Mixed up there buddy?
Not true on the range...
@@bills6055 Volvo websites. 77km pure electric or about 48 miles.
just saw another vid that confirms this - the guy got 79.8km/49.5 miles all electric driving in the rain in Norway. Not highway speeds though mostly city ish driving
I'm not sure from the camera angle, but it could be that Volvo assumes you would enter the front seat butt first instead of hip/leg first.
I though he said 1,255 hp... LOL I had to rewind & listen again...
V90 is my choice
Is this car similar to getting into a Jeep wrangler in regard to the door opening. Im 6'-1" and have duct in thru the door opening on the jeep. Im looking at the XC60 a possible next vehicle.
I would love an off-road trim of this
one of the best looking Chinese car on the market .
Actually the real Chinese car makers not just owned are making some impressive stuff.
You gotta change drive modes via the screen and menus? What? Looks like their homemade Sensus system. Quite the annoyance on my S60.
Excellent car bro 😎
I have a 2023 XC60 Recharge on the way, will be here in November, it was a hair over $70k. You say it's really fast, a sleeper and true, but honestly I will never, the 2023's are not supercharged, they are only turbo charged.
I just don't like the way large fwd vehicles drive and handle. So if I owned this I'd probably leave it in AWD mode. Which would kind of defeat the purpose.
The elect motor is in the rear so in elec mode it’s a rear wheel drive.
Volvo made you hiit your head the first time...the second time you did it on your own.
Bonk
Nathan don't forget the Lincoln aviator hybrid is 494hp and 630tq. Please do a review 🙏 on it
Two problems electric/built somewhere else...
Unfortunate if you live in a cold climate I would hold off buying until they fix the Climate system heating performance issue. Many people having issues and part is backorder for a long time. While they say you can get heat on gasoline mode. So what is the point to have an electric car if you cannot get heat in electric mode? Volvo - shame on you for not getting a fix and continue to promote a product that is not working.
So every year all these car companies are going to be introducing a new and improved model like Apple does with the Iphone. Hmmmm.
Great car, just prob best to get the extra warranty
Why is that?
I got extra warranty on my V60 Cross country its 4 years old now haven't needed it. But I got it because of all the electronics. I got 7 years 100,000 miles bumper to bumper. I love my car especially in winter !!!
It’s a great looking CUV!! That really is a fast vehicle, looks great and is likely very comfortable for me. I am only 5’8” tall, stocky but fit. I doubt getting in and out will be an issue for myself.
The trick is, just duck,,,, when you get in and if you are taller, duck lower!! Hahaha. Kinda like when you own a lower car, or sports car. Getting into my different older Z cars is an exercise in agility as well!! Just duck!! Haha.
The interior is mimicking the interiors of other vehicles in this class. People want a stick for shifting, even though a button, or dial works the same as nothing is directly connected to the transmission anyways. There will be people hurt as a result of the stick system there like in other vehicles. Remember when Jeep Grand Cherokees had a shifter that always returned to the same positron no matter the gear and people making errors and running over themselves?? They were forced into recalling the vehicles because people cannot accept the fact they made a mistake. Own your mistakes and move on. Don’t go blaming someone else. If only people that decide on issues like this would say that and say “No money for you! Ya screwed up!” Instead they rule that the big corporation has to pay as they should be psychic and assume there has to be an extremely slight, minuscule group that can’t figure anything out for themselves. Pay them!! Haha.
I can see that happening with the new shifters again. I don’t fault the products at all and quite like them for nostalgic reasons. Gonna be a nice vehicle and 35 miles range is a great improvement!! Most buyers will be successfully commuting in EV mode only!!
Stopped watching or caring once you said the price. lol Okay, okay....maybe I finished the video out of pure curiosity. 😅
You can eat a cow, just don’t use the hide 🙈
Let's stop reviewing Chinese cars
Let's stop calling cars engineered and designed in Sweden "Chinese." This car is likely built in Belgium which isn't either here or there.
@@benjaminsmith2287 there owned by a Chinese company
@@hitman74 So? Doesn't make them Chinese. The parent is not the same as the company.
The UK models are all designed and built in Sweden.
@@SimonKelk All Volvos are designed in Sweden and engineered there. In the USA, some are built in the USA, most in Sweden and Belgium, and one model in China.
Reliability nightmare. Watch the Savagegeese review on his Volvo ownership experience. Total trash pile unfortunately
Total trash pile comment above. Because one example has a problem doesn't mean all, most or many do.
I love Volvo but the electric ones (t8, polestar and polestar brand) are more Chinese than swedish because geely. And two, the reliability of the t8 and polestar I'm worried about. Want it to do well, besides that 😘 amazing.
Actually, the cars from what I understand aren't made in China. Volvo still controls the production of the cars. The Chinese company only owns the brand.
That's totally correct, but it seems that people have issues to get that. The situation with Volvo owned by Geely is just how Land Rover and Jaguar are owned by TATA. The Chinese and Indian investors/company mad great investments on buying and owning these luxury car brands.
@@badrzain4106 agreed
I’m not happy with CCP ownership because you just don’t know what the evil bastards will pull next. Don’t do business with them or the zRussians.
Also, those little engines being supercharged and turbo changed at the same time is crazy (they do sell some like that still in other cars I believe). Adding PIEV bits just means too much can go wrong.
They kept the turbo in 2022 but dropped the additional supercharger. I’ll bet you have a
single cylinder motorcycle as your mode of transportation due to the less can go wrong concern. I’m with you I prefer to pedal to work but stuff still can go wrong…believe me.
Knocking my head is a non-starter. Sorry Volvo, I'll stick with BMW SAVs.
I'm 6'4" and don't knock my head in my 2023. Between that dumb comment and the fact that this guy thinks the engine is still supercharged, he has no credibility with me. He's an arrogant wise guy.
Why does he always narrate his videos like he is taking to children??
Volvo is so boring. Same look for 20 years
That's what makes it cool. It isn't there to impress you. It's there to impress the owner.
Supercharged, turbo charged, electric, German car.... it will certaintly be reliable and super cheap to fix. I can see this giving the CRV and Rav4 a serious run for thier money!
Chinese actually
Volvo is not, or ever has been, German.
I kind of get what you mean but at around $20k or more of a price difference do you think many people will cross-shop this against those vehicles?
Volvo is Swedish. It has a Chinese parent company but it acts autonomously and the cars are developed, designed, engineered, road tested and crash tested in Sweden.
@@benjaminsmith2287 but not built