I studied in a convent and grew up hearing that the church has a stranglehold on education. My whole history education has been fraudulent. This is systemic colonial hangover and now the waves of history are rising, life finds a way. We Indians will unite and educate ourselves.
Quaint Deliveries we are the last generation that know true oral history and folks from respective parts of India so before it fades out due to urbanization we have to preserve in written form . otherwise our future will keep believing colonialists and communists crap and lies.
Quaint Deliveries the problem is we accept this as a truth only when told in the queen's language...when BJP says it, we call them bigots out to demolish indian history n communalise....i wonder if we are slaves to our own complex?
it's not we...it's some...there are many that are really on the right track...what you see and read in the media is not the real thing...real india...i'll tell you something very interesting that gave me hope apart from the direction the voting and politics has been in....first let's not forget shashi tharoor is as westernised as it gets..and even he is speaking like this...he's one of the people leading this movement...then here's an important statistic....86% of India prefers reading the news in their Indian language rather than english....and I am not one of those people...i am one of those people who's as wrong as it is...it's true...i still prefer english to hindi and i know it's wrong but what gives me hope is that if someone as much of a believer in Indianness is the 'angrezi' kind and how strongly i believe that we should move towards our roots then it gives me hope that in reality...most of India is really on the right track...because those 86% definitely want more indianness and are practicing it....i am one of the 14% and I want it passionately as well...so i feel rather than worrying about others...i should first take care of myself....like i've started reading the upanishads, ramayan and the mahabharat by reputed hindu scholars...that's my way of getting in touch with my culture and my roots...
I am not Indian, but to me is the Mother Ship of this planet. I have been several times there and the first time my feet touched Indian soil, I shivered with emotion and respect. Please, do not abandon completely the barberian English language yet, so I can still comunicate with you beautiful people when I come back to Bharat. NAMASTE.
The view formed by Tharoor and Sanjeev is a typical view who was educated in "British English period" with English Accent and one with native Indian English education. If you are not rooted /bought in Indian Tradition, Tharoor view becomes the perspective.
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Selective amnesia is not perogativ of Brits alone, look at the Congress version of history tought in India, of which Shashi, is part of the problem too.
MR.THAROOR IS NATIONALIST FASCIST HIDING BEHIND THAT CHARMING FACE OF A STUPID GUNGADIN,HIS INTEREST IS MONEY AND POPULARITY,LIKE MANY SPINELESS CELEBRITIES FROM THAT SH.THOLE CALLED INDIA,THE BIGGEST SLUM IN THE WORLD AND IF THEY FIND INTELLIGENT FORMS OF LIFE ON OTHER PLANETS ,INDIA WILL BE THE BIGGEST SH.THOLE AND SLUM IN THE UNIVERSE.
Everyone suffers from selective amnesia. And most people support the govt or power of the day. While every govt is selective and sectarian. So every version of history is politically motivated. And main problem is that till any political entity is in power they only propagate their version of history and don't entertain any history that goes against them. Even if u give proof or facts they will underplay that fact and will downplay any incident that is untoward to ideology of the govt of the day This is true for any govt, kingdom, and even the politically motivated foot soldiers or subjects of a govt.
@@deepjyotibhattacharjee4582 no no there is no more corrupted party than congress. BJP govt has done more development in 6 years than congress in 70 year's. They write there version of history?lol I see how most of English medias and so called liberal historians are actually against BJP unlike at the time of congress where they were ass licker of congress.
history being very sensitive zone of people's emotions so, the harm from long accepted distorted and prideless,colonised history all orientalism which demean Indian for its cultural pride and oldest heritage ..are still continue a type of oppressive history we reading in sleepy class with no pride..hope several budding and good Indian like sanjeev sanyal,rajeev malhotra,sengupta,and other true Indian mind will take part in real history of India.
INDIA IS ARTIFICIAL COUNTRY NOT A NATURAL COUNTRY AND IS LEGACY OF YOUR FOREVER MASTERS THE BRITISH.BE GRATEFUL TO THEM ,THEY GAVE YOU THE COUNTRY THAT YOU HAVE TODAY AND NEVER HAD BEFORE.SOME ONE SHOULD WRITE A BOOK CALLED "THE UNGRATEFUL GUNGADINS AKA INDIANS"AS AN ANSWER TO THAT SH.T BOOK MR.THAROOR WROTE.
Shri Shashi Tharoor Ji, many thx for this wonderful informative lecture and keep up the good work. (Good Job Organizers of the Event) Respect from Pakistan.
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Stephen Knapp wrote about all this long ago. The fact that his book hasn't been widely read or talked about has to do with the colonial hangover among the anglophile Indians - professors as well as parents.
In the American educational system, we too have an injustice in the manner to which we are taught. The occupation of several middle eastern countries over the years, done mostly in junction with the British, is not spoken of or taught. We are not taught what actually occurs when troops are sent for years at a time over there. We are simply told about history up to WW2. After which it is presumed that all other conflicts are a matter of the US stepping in when "help" is needed. Though, like in Syria, this "help" is not welcomed or asked for. The governmental world powers, which wear kindly masks and pretend to do all things for the sake of kindness, are in fact pushing western expectations on the rest of the globe.
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If history is not retold by great and authentic , brilliant writers like Dr Shashi Tharoor, there would be unwanted addition, inclusion, omission..Historical truths might get distorted by those of whom history is not favour of. So history must be retold, rewritten but without any deviation from truths.
There is a problem in audio all of a sudden it becomes low is there any way to correct it or upload it again.I have the habit of listening to such talks from a distance doing my chores rather than sitting in front of it!.
Sashi cannot blame Varna system which was acutally based on qualities rather than birth,. Jathis of India were based on qualities before rigid, birth based caste system was shoved down the throats of then slaves by East India company agnets and their British henchmen. The word caste itself was derived from the portuguese word called CASTA (meaning racial hierarchy).
If I may, while caste is indeed a loan word from Portuguese; but even within the varna system; the Brahmans and upper castes dominated both the religious and political hierarchies. (From what I can fathom anyways). When did the varna system lose its original purpose of identifying the status of particular jatis within the particular hierarchy and became rigidly based on birth , is a matter of debate. Was it during the Guptas or earlier; or was it a reaction to the subsequent Afghan and Turkic invasions. The only way I have observed social mobility within the various jatis was when some would rise up and establish a political dynasty or in other words defeat the established higher varnas. Then they would become Ksahtriyas and otherwise. (The Nanda dynaty come to mind here, according to some historians). The caste system as we know it today was well established long before the British became a political force in the sub continent. The British, with their rigid focus on established and immobile peasant communities for the purpose of revenue extraction, further exacerbated the issue. Would like to hear your thoughts on this.
himanshu caste system existed in europe and every society around the world.Go to any country like china,egypt,arabia,europe etc always noble class or upper class people ruled for many centuries.Royal familes ruled their country for many years in form of nepotism where the son of the king ruled regardless of his quality.Very few societies had merit based system like today we have.unlike today where we have exams and merit based society most nations in -past were all ruled by upper class all the timeSo even europeans and aficans,arabians etc had their own caste system.So caste was not limited only to india.It was spread around the world.Only in 19th century the modern merit based examination sysstem was introduced whichc allowed people from everyclass to rise in sopciety depending on their merit.So please read alll the history before blaming idnia for caste system
@ Croc: FYI not blaming anything on anyone. Please do not put words in my mouth based on your thoughts alone. I was replying to the OP based on how he seems to say/ believe that the varna system was based on qualities alone. Maybe it was in the Vedic age, but that has not been true for at least the last thousand years or more. As to you observations; yes, somewhat true. Similar to three estates system of pre revolutionary France. However, since you insinuate that you have read more in to the history of the world; do answer some of my queries as stated above and below. While there was indeed a caste system, or something similar around the world; however even there was still a chance for caste mobility. To reiterate the France example; a person could enroll himself/ take the oath of the Church and move to the second estate of the priests. Do you think that a similar process was achievable in India, say by a Chandal/ Chamar who strived to become a Brahmin priest ? Do you think that he would be even afforded the chance to learn the Holy scriptures, or even enter the temple for that matter ?The only instances of caste mobility I have seen in India is when the entire Jati would become powerful, militarily or financially, usually by dint of having rebelled against their caste superiors or becoming financially better off usually due to some external circumstances. The Nandas were literally called "the slayers of Kshatriyas" They seized the throne and moved up in the varna system, or is it not so ? The problem with the Indian system, as it appears to me is its very rigidity. No matter how high you rise up in your life, a person born into the lower caste will remain in that varna until his death. He cannot go into temples frequented by the upper castes, cannot marry into their families and cannot participate in many religious practices that require a priest. There are always exceptions, but I am talking about the norm here, based on my own reading and personal experiences. Looking forward to reading your thoughts on this.
himanshu gogi again you are talking nonsense.caste mobility definitely existed in india.There are many cases where low caste people created their own empires and decalred themsleves to be upper caste kashatriyas.go read about ready dynasty,gupta dynasty,sunga dynasty etc who were all founded by non kashatriya people or farming community people.SO if caste mobility didnt exist then how did this low caste people rise to ebcome upper caste rulers,huh?Also You claim that in indian hindu temples dalit are not allowed to enter temple but in church they were allowed to but your comparision is wrong.You are comparing dalits of india and comparing their exclusion with almost all the church people which is wrong.For instance in hindu temples almost all hindus were allowed into temples and many ow caste hindus even became priests.Popular hindu yoga teacher baba ramdev belongs to farming caste but still he is considered as a priest or brahmin scholar by hindu people.There are many such low caste people have became brahmins in temples.Also in christianity there is untouchability praced too.go read about cagots in france and spain who were treated as untouchables.Go read about how gypsies and blacks were not allowed to drink water from same pool!!!For centuries, through the modern times, the majority regarded Cagots of western France and northern Spain as an inferior caste, the untouchables. While they had the same skin color and religion as the majority, in the churches they had to use segregated doors, drink from segregated fonts, and receive communion on the end of long wooden spoons. It was a closed social system. The socially isolated Cagots were endogamous, and chances of social mobility non-existent!!So christianity also had untouchability and in hinduism caste mobility definitely was possible.So again please4 go get educated on indaian matters before talking n0nsense!!
.There are many cases where low caste people created their own empires and declared themselves to be upper caste kashatriyas Yes, but however as I pointed out; this was more as a result of the particular Jati rising up and usurping the throne for themselves; so in effect a violent upheaval and a drastic change of power structure of the particular area. It had little to do with upper caste benevolence as such. Plus, even these Jatis with social mobility still required the justification by their "caste superiors", particularly the Brahmins, which they usually did by making up extensive genealogies and showing the usurper to have descended from some Hindu deity. And that was more in the early and medieval eras of Indian history. Modern instances, particularly after the coming of the Afghans and the Mughals are very very rare, in fact so rare for it to be just an anomaly. If you look at my first post, I say exactly that. Caste mobility was there; perhaps in the early and medieval periods, but it became insanely rigid at some point of time, maybe by the time of the Guptas or as a reaction to the Afghan invasions. There are many such low caste people have became brahmins in temples". Any concrete examples, such as a name or the period ? almost all hindus were allowed into temples and many low caste hindus even became priests." The keyword here being "almost", I feel. As before, a concrete example would be nice. The term dalit itself is quite a recent term. They constitute the Jatis which were in effect outside of the four point varna system i.e they were not even Shudras. So comparing them with Baba Ramdev is a moot point, I feel since he had the surname of "Yadav". So his acceptance as a Yogic teacher can be attributed to the fact that he could claim descent from Krishna, could he not? This argument will only end when a Dalit becomes a priest in a popular hindu temple, in my humble opinion. Also, no one is insinuating that the Europeans were much more enlightened than Indians. They had far worse practices, and were in fact communal perhaps even before the word came into fashion. However, post enlightenment Europe has certainly moved on, while it seems we have not. Also, how do you attribute the rise of the Bhakti movements in India ? Would you say it would be incorrect to state that the Bhakti tradition itself was a counter reaction to both the advent of the Afghans and the rigid varna system being followed at the time ?
shashi sir u put it well but not one mentionof subash chandra bose, who struggled for jai hind. he had an enormous contribution but u abjectly ignore him and endorse the fact of obliterating him from history of india, vry deplorable tut tut
Satnam Waheguru ji ki Jay Respectful Sir now my opinion is the best comfort zone of the World now I realise the life we create for ourselves is determine Delta minded by our general attitude towards the result you want you need to adopt a positive attitude and
According to a conservative estimate by a group of eminent economists Britain owes India about 200 trillion US dollars at current prices, as reparations. This is the scale of the loot spread over 200 years. Also, the number of Indians who died in recurring famines in India during the glory years of Crown Rule is, according to an estimate by a white anglo-saxon protestant British scholar based in Oxford University around 65 million. Not a single white Englishman died of starvation during British rule in India.( rather they died of over eating) This was genocide of Indians. Tharoor doesnt seem to be aware of the third degree torture that the colonial police reserved for nationalists in colonial India. Has he been to the Cellular Jail in the Andaman and Nicobar islands, which was established after 1857? Far greater numbers were slaughtered all over north India for two years by the Birtish than by the Nazis after the Indian revolution of 1857. This was a genocide of gargantuan proportions as it went on for two years till 1859.
Tharoor is wrong in assuming India cannot be broken up now... Please read "Breaking India" book by Rajiv and Aravind , there are still tremendous underground forces operating on ground. Tamil Nadu, West Bengal and Kashmir and north east states are potential candidates.
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The best Indian public speaker I have heard in years: the rhythmic flow of his words, the precision of his words, the logic of his arguments backed by his knowledge of the facts, the irony and humor interjected and the body language and the insights are truly the mark of a gifted speaker.
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Shashi Tharoor is the current historian of acclaim. I'd like to toss him a bouncer proverbially speaking. Indian culture is spoken of as being centuries in existence. We're aware of two cultures which seem to have prevailed and left evidence of their having been here. India seems to still be here notwithstanding being several centuries before the Greeks and the Romans. Can one assume that the basis of Indian culture has facilitated survival because of something about a more basic and enduring ingredient in its cultural fundamentals? I'd really be obliged to hear the renowned Tharoor's views.
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Listen carefully it's important, he said A bishop appeared after 150 years of Brit rule in India ,and they did it for money.Yes this is quite revealing ,and true .They bought religion here and converted few in Kerala to get support for their money making ventures.And then exploited all weaknesses in our society at that time .Those who converted were ruthlessly opportunistic .
the Vietnamese and the Indonesian have their Own language......we continue to cling to English . Even Americans changed everything including electricity switches driving on the right
VIETNAMESE ARE ONE HOMOGENEOUS PEOPLE ,YOU INDIANS ARE NOT ,YOU ARE A BABYLON OF LANGUAGES AND NATION, ARTIFICIALLY PUT TOGETHER BY THE BRITISH.THAT WHY VIETNAMESE HAVE A NATIONAL LANGUAGE AND YOU DO NOT,TRY TO FORCE THE TAMILS TO SPEAK YOUR STUPID HINDI OR URDU AND YOU WILL THE SHORTEST WAY OF THE DISINTEGRATION OF THIS SOVIET UNION OF SOUTH ASIA ,THIS BIG GULAG CALLED INDIA.TAKE CARE BUSBOY.
tippu sultan abolished local language for administration n introduced persian-a foreign language.n accepted the Turkish caliph as his legitimate overlord.
Its not Bangalore now its officially called as Bengalooru which is derived from Bendha-Kal-Ooru which meant the land or place where peanuts or Green Gram(probably kalu) was Bendidhu(boiled) by the legendary chieftain Kannada warrior Kempegowda.... I would also implore Mr. Tharoor and others to examine the new regional party launched by the Kannada actor Upendra called as the Uttama Prajakeeya Party and study about its structure, working methodology and manifesto........I hope Tharoor and others to step out of Congressi dynastic politics.
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
all is well up until he says he doesnot agree mughal rule is foreign rule, they might have stayed here, spent their loot here but its true they were foreigners and it was a foreign rule.
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Shashi Tharoor says that 'we' should know our history. The 'we' that he refers to is limited to the small part of India that can read English. If he really believed that all Indians, or all citizens of the soi-disant largest democracy in the world, should know their history, he would not write in a language that only people who are a part of a tyrannical self-absorbed and ruthless cabal know.
Wrong judgement..English is what get the most exposure uniformly through out the nation than any regional language which has geographical confinements.. If he had written the book in Hindi or in Bengali, no south Indians could have been able to read that and vice verse if he have had written in Tamil or Malayalam..
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Sanjeev Sanyal rightly characterizes Charles Allen as a patronizing racist. He also contrasts Indonesian historiography with the Indian. Perhaps the reason is that the Indonesian school system does not systematically deny access to the language of academic discourse to all but a small elite. To my knowledge, knowledge of Dutch is not a cruel tool of exclusion in Indonesia as English is in India. Access to good schooling in Indonesia, to my knowledge, is not oppressively divided between modern education for a small elite and abysmally inadequate education for the rest. IIM Bangalore spends more on the barbed wire fence that keeps out hoi polloi from its sprawling campus than a typical Karnataka medium high school in Bangalore does on library for its students, assuming that Karnataka medium high schools in Bangalore have a library.
Shashi Tharoor is the last person to be taken seriously 😐. He has the most subtle way to beat around the bush with his command over English language. Such a cheeky guy.
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Mr Tharoor , few points . 1. Do you know there is a huge Eastern India with many many states ? There is also Western India with many big states too ? 2. Do you Know vasco da gama looted India's wealth the most . Do you know there are 1000s of languages too ? 3. Do you know caste system was organized by Portuguese and the word caste itself is originated by them ? Do you know what Varna systems and Jaati was ? 4. Do you know that English language is killing India's education system ? 5. Do you know properly what East India Company has done to India ? 6. And Finally do you know what Congress has done to India by dividing Indian into many parts and problem of Kashmir and things that still continues ? Grow up Mr British Apologetic Tharoor ?
Rajiv 😇😊apt questions! I can actually read between lines of Tharoor. Every time he talks about British apology he mentions financial compensation. He doesn’t genuinely believe that if we revive our Dharmic civilisation the whole world will flourish.
the brits brought a rule of law which was the same for everyone was established. The princes and the servants fell under the same system of law, and so did all the states, including Kashmir.
peter-john de jong But was it the rule of the same law for the English? Were crimes and offences committed by the English resident in india subject to the same laws? One thinks not. I may further state that the English concept of the "rule of (English ) law" may not be a good system. France, and entire europe in fact, does admirably well without it. I shall provide specific examples if you so wish
What western principle justifies the sustaing of the white people by shipping the dfood from the foreign countryies to them during a famine in the countries from which the food is being shipped, leaving the natives die of starvation?
Khiljis weren't Turk. They were Afghan Pashtuns, they spoke Pashto, lived in Afghanistan, and were culturally Afghan. Their descendants the Ghilzai are the largest Pashtun tribal confederacy so please tell me which part of them was turkic?? Where in history have you ever heard of a Turkic tribe that adopted the Pashto language?? The Turkic tribes that settled in Afghanistan all spoke Persian. So if the Khiljis were originally Turkic then they would speak Persian apart from ofcourse one of the turkic languages.
Muslim Rulers of India survived Arab nation's for almost 900 yrs in Indian money. And British ruled India for Money and Partitioned her for Money. My request to you Learned peaple is to know about what went wrong in Sindh . How many were hanged and killed by Brits. Peer Sibghat ullah Rashdi was hanged at age 43. By neglecting Sindh' s history of Raj days you are justifying Partition
Mr. Shashi Tharoor as like as romila Thapar and Irfan Habib because Shashi Tharoor congressian historian and other two are communist historian. both are same. They did not praise Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose's contribution because they are all jealous on Subhash Chandra Bose. They are not like as Subhas chandra Bose level.
36:00 minutes......why only British and not the Portuguese? I agree. He has short term memory loss. If you can’t see beyond 200 years of historical evidence you have no right to be giving a discourse on history.
REALLY ,MAYBE IT WAS THE READING OF KAMASUTRA AND PUTTING IN PRACTICE THE LESSONS FROM THAT BOOK THAT INCREASE YOUR POPULATION WHEN THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH FOOD TO GO AROUND.
oi why dont u allow tarek fatah...taslima nasreen....rajiv malhotra etc etc....that sort of people....u pseudo-liberal banglr litratr festvl owners.....afraid of mullas.....u r boring show anyway....
@@deepjyotibhattacharjee4582 He had servants, newspaper, books, trips to switzerland, could meet people and go for walks. IDK if you call that as life of a prisoner.
@@deepjyotibhattacharjee4582 bolo toh bhai mne, jailed bolte h lekin kaisi jail kya facilities te woh koi batata ni kyuki narrative chalana h. You would be surprised to know even Gandhi spent just about 4 yrs lekin yeh bolenge 15yrs.
India was under the rule of so many small kings always fighting with one another paying taxes to the great rulers for centuries.The people lived in poverty without 3 times food, dress and shelter. Out of all rulers the British gave education dress code and good administration , transport facilities,road,electricity,laws,all the Government Depart ments, railway, aircraft, built dams for irrigation introduced many scientific techniques for the improvement of many. To cut the story into short 99% people of India lived under hopelessness .If we had not received Independence we would have been developed as Australia which is still under the control of The British. In no way they are as bad as our Politicians and Rulers. They only united India under one banner Still we are not united. We are divided in Caste Religion, Region. Our people kill human being for the one suspected to have killed a cow. Superstition. No Law and Order All the minorities are treated badly. No Judicial equivalence .
Well India was one of the richest countries before British arrived , glorious emperors and empires were on the throne and it shared world's highest gdp , ya there were some troublemakers but mostly people had a fortunate life I am sorry sir I am not sure which history has taught this see life before the colonisation and after that you would understand this see horrors of cellular jail and famines. I hope you would understand this I have seen your comment on various videos and it seems like you comment on every video disgracing British empire. One of my uncle's grandfather who was under colonisation had his leg cut off and nails plucked off just as he was fighting for freedom he is not very widely known , and pls don't say it was the case before empire also my uncle told his grandfather had had a better life before empire. I see you at many places supporting something wrong so I am saying pls don't reply or report
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Tharoor is appealing to the gullible masses to sell his congressi Mythology. He at the same time worships delhi sultante and mughal empire which were just as inglorious
Sanjeev Sanyal has more credible points. Tharoor behaved more like a Typical Islamist apologist Congressman. Sorry Mr. Tharoor but you can't survive based on wide vocabulary and British Accent only. So, speak some practical points instead of flattering people with your English only.
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
india was already in a shithole by the time British colonialism came along, British colonialism merely exploited it, but in doing so it also gave India a ladder.
Denver Britto UK on that time was a poor state. And India was known as "bird of gold". That's why u poor thief came India and looted them.. UK is world's biggest "market of thievery".
I studied in a convent and grew up hearing that the church has a stranglehold on education. My whole history education has been fraudulent. This is systemic colonial hangover and now the waves of history are rising, life finds a way. We Indians will unite and educate ourselves.
Right. Lot's of things to be done in INDIA about production of knowledge instead of just being a consumer of knowledge.
बेहतरीन! ज्ञान के उपभोक्ता होने के बजाय उत्पादक होना..
Quaint Deliveries we are the last generation that know true oral history and folks from respective parts of India so before it fades out due to urbanization we have to preserve in written form . otherwise our future will keep believing colonialists and communists crap and lies.
Quaint Deliveries the problem is we accept this as a truth only when told in the queen's language...when BJP says it, we call them bigots out to demolish indian history n communalise....i wonder if we are slaves to our own complex?
it's not we...it's some...there are many that are really on the right track...what you see and read in the media is not the real thing...real india...i'll tell you something very interesting that gave me hope apart from the direction the voting and politics has been in....first let's not forget shashi tharoor is as westernised as it gets..and even he is speaking like this...he's one of the people leading this movement...then here's an important statistic....86% of India prefers reading the news in their Indian language rather than english....and I am not one of those people...i am one of those people who's as wrong as it is...it's true...i still prefer english to hindi and i know it's wrong but what gives me hope is that if someone as much of a believer in Indianness is the 'angrezi' kind and how strongly i believe that we should move towards our roots then it gives me hope that in reality...most of India is really on the right track...because those 86% definitely want more indianness and are practicing it....i am one of the 14% and I want it passionately as well...so i feel rather than worrying about others...i should first take care of myself....like i've started reading the upanishads, ramayan and the mahabharat by reputed hindu scholars...that's my way of getting in touch with my culture and my roots...
First step would be to withdraw each and every book of Romila Thapar and do holika dahan. Discredit anybody talking about aryan invasion theory.
Our history must be rewritten. Left lenient historians such as thaper must be discarded. Nehru and Congress have betrayed us
Aryan invasion theory is true proved thru gene mapping ..
@@mA-fd3vu that's a bunch of BS, study research papers of Dr. Niraj rai, top scientist in genetics, he already dismantled aryan invasion theory
@@rajeshreddy4491 Brahmins power is like that , whatever they say is authentic what others say is BS
History always repeats itself. We must try to learn from the past in order to evolve as a human race.
Imagine Sanjeev sanyal roosting Nehru in front of Shashi tharoor wrote Nehru biography
I am not Indian, but to me is the Mother Ship of this planet. I have been several times there and the first time my feet touched Indian soil, I shivered with emotion and respect. Please, do not abandon completely the barberian English language yet, so I can still comunicate with you beautiful people when I come back to Bharat. NAMASTE.
In Kannada language its called NAMASKARA and in Malayalam its called NAMASKARAM hence NAMASTE is not universally used in India.
NA ...NOT
MA .....ME
But pointing to a higher dimension of life and nature .
NAMAste.
NAMAskar.
NAMAskarm . Al localised terms .
ONLY THE MAD PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO DO WITHOUT English language.
Sanjeev is Great
Sanjeev sanyal should write more history
I am a fan of both the gentlemen loved it.
The view formed by Tharoor and Sanjeev is a typical view who was educated in "British English period" with English Accent and one with native Indian English education. If you are not rooted /bought in Indian Tradition, Tharoor view becomes the perspective.
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
Selective amnesia is not perogativ of Brits alone, look at the Congress version of history tought in India, of which Shashi, is part of the problem too.
MR.THAROOR IS NATIONALIST FASCIST HIDING BEHIND THAT CHARMING FACE OF A STUPID GUNGADIN,HIS INTEREST IS MONEY AND POPULARITY,LIKE MANY SPINELESS CELEBRITIES FROM THAT SH.THOLE CALLED INDIA,THE BIGGEST SLUM IN THE WORLD AND IF THEY FIND INTELLIGENT FORMS OF LIFE ON OTHER PLANETS ,INDIA WILL BE THE BIGGEST SH.THOLE AND SLUM IN THE UNIVERSE.
Everyone suffers from selective amnesia. And most people support the govt or power of the day. While every govt is selective and sectarian. So every version of history is politically motivated. And main problem is that till any political entity is in power they only propagate their version of history and don't entertain any history that goes against them. Even if u give proof or facts they will underplay that fact and will downplay any incident that is untoward to ideology of the govt of the day
This is true for any govt, kingdom, and even the politically motivated foot soldiers or subjects of a govt.
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no no there is no more corrupted party than congress.
BJP govt has done more development in 6 years than congress in 70 year's.
They write there version of history?lol
I see how most of English medias and so called liberal historians are actually against BJP unlike at the time of congress where they were ass licker of congress.
@@swapnilchaudhari9545 just a govt fan boy statement.
@@deepjyotibhattacharjee4582
You are kind of moron like "all religion are same" lmao
history being very sensitive zone of people's emotions so, the harm from long accepted distorted and prideless,colonised history all orientalism which demean Indian for its cultural pride and oldest heritage ..are still continue a type of oppressive history we reading in sleepy class with no pride..hope several budding and good Indian like sanjeev sanyal,rajeev malhotra,sengupta,and other true Indian mind will take part in real history of India.
INDIA IS ARTIFICIAL COUNTRY NOT A NATURAL COUNTRY AND IS LEGACY OF YOUR FOREVER MASTERS THE BRITISH.BE GRATEFUL TO THEM ,THEY GAVE YOU THE COUNTRY THAT YOU HAVE TODAY AND NEVER HAD BEFORE.SOME ONE SHOULD WRITE A BOOK CALLED "THE UNGRATEFUL GUNGADINS AKA INDIANS"AS AN ANSWER TO THAT SH.T BOOK MR.THAROOR WROTE.
Shri Shashi Tharoor Ji, many thx for this wonderful informative lecture and keep up the good work.
(Good Job Organizers of the Event)
Respect from Pakistan.
Asad Khan take him to pakistan.u really need him😁
Take him to Pakistan we can't understand his accent
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
Stephen Knapp wrote about all this long ago. The fact that his book hasn't been widely read or talked about has to do with the colonial hangover among the anglophile Indians - professors as well as parents.
Barring this audio problem, it was brilliant .
That's great Mr. Tharoor!!!
In the American educational system, we too have an injustice in the manner to which we are taught. The occupation of several middle eastern countries over the years, done mostly in junction with the British, is not spoken of or taught. We are not taught what actually occurs when troops are sent for years at a time over there. We are simply told about history up to WW2. After which it is presumed that all other conflicts are a matter of the US stepping in when "help" is needed. Though, like in Syria, this "help" is not welcomed or asked for. The governmental world powers, which wear kindly masks and pretend to do all things for the sake of kindness, are in fact pushing western expectations on the rest of the globe.
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
If history is not retold by great and authentic , brilliant writers like Dr Shashi Tharoor, there would be unwanted addition, inclusion, omission..Historical truths might get distorted by those of whom history is not favour of. So history must be retold, rewritten but without any deviation from truths.
We have to learn true history but also has to correct it.
There is a problem in audio all of a sudden it becomes low is there any way to correct it or upload it again.I have the habit of listening to such talks from a distance doing my chores rather than sitting in front of it!.
Both are very good gentle men great....
So many interviews regarding this book. Everyone wanted British out that a fact otherwise we will be still under British. Respect freedom fighters
Sashi cannot blame Varna system which was acutally based on qualities rather than birth,. Jathis of India were based on qualities before rigid, birth based caste system was shoved down the throats of then slaves by East India company agnets and their British henchmen. The word caste itself was derived from the portuguese word called CASTA (meaning racial hierarchy).
If I may, while caste is indeed a loan word from Portuguese; but even within the varna system; the Brahmans and upper castes dominated both the religious and political hierarchies. (From what I can fathom anyways). When did the varna system lose its original purpose of identifying the status of particular jatis within the particular hierarchy and became rigidly based on birth , is a matter of debate. Was it during the Guptas or earlier; or was it a reaction to the subsequent Afghan and Turkic invasions. The only way I have observed social mobility within the various jatis was when some would rise up and establish a political dynasty or in other words defeat the established higher varnas. Then they would become Ksahtriyas and otherwise. (The Nanda dynaty come to mind here, according to some historians). The caste system as we know it today was well established long before the British became a political force in the sub continent. The British, with their rigid focus on established and immobile peasant communities for the purpose of revenue extraction, further exacerbated the issue.
Would like to hear your thoughts on this.
himanshu caste system existed in europe and every society around the world.Go to any country like china,egypt,arabia,europe etc always noble class or upper class people ruled for many centuries.Royal familes ruled their country for many years in form of nepotism where the son of the king ruled regardless of his quality.Very few societies had merit based system like today we have.unlike today where we have exams and merit based society most nations in -past were all ruled by upper class all the timeSo even europeans and aficans,arabians etc had their own caste system.So caste was not limited only to india.It was spread around the world.Only in 19th century the modern merit based examination sysstem was introduced whichc allowed people from everyclass to rise in sopciety depending on their merit.So please read alll the history before blaming idnia for caste system
@ Croc: FYI not blaming anything on anyone. Please do not put words in my mouth based on your thoughts alone. I was replying to the OP based on how he seems to say/ believe that the varna system was based on qualities alone. Maybe it was in the Vedic age, but that has not been true for at least the last thousand years or more.
As to you observations; yes, somewhat true. Similar to three estates system of pre revolutionary France. However, since you insinuate that you have read more in to the history of the world; do answer some of my queries as stated above and below.
While there was indeed a caste system, or something similar around the world; however even there was still a chance for caste mobility. To reiterate the France example; a person could enroll himself/ take the oath of the Church and move to the second estate of the priests. Do you think that a similar process was achievable in India, say by a Chandal/ Chamar who strived to become a Brahmin priest ? Do you think that he would be even afforded the chance to learn the Holy scriptures, or even enter the temple for that matter ?The only instances of caste mobility I have seen in India is when the entire Jati would become powerful, militarily or financially, usually by dint of having rebelled against their caste superiors or becoming financially better off usually due to some external circumstances. The Nandas were literally called "the slayers of Kshatriyas" They seized the throne and moved up in the varna system, or is it not so ?
The problem with the Indian system, as it appears to me is its very rigidity. No matter how high you rise up in your life, a person born into the lower caste will remain in that varna until his death. He cannot go into temples frequented by the upper castes, cannot marry into their families and cannot participate in many religious practices that require a priest. There are always exceptions, but I am talking about the norm here, based on my own reading and personal experiences.
Looking forward to reading your thoughts on this.
himanshu gogi again you are talking nonsense.caste mobility definitely existed in india.There are many cases where low caste people created their own empires and decalred themsleves to be upper caste kashatriyas.go read about ready dynasty,gupta dynasty,sunga dynasty etc who were all founded by non kashatriya people or farming community people.SO if caste mobility didnt exist then how did this low caste people rise to ebcome upper caste rulers,huh?Also You claim that in indian hindu temples dalit are not allowed to enter temple but in church they were allowed to but your comparision is wrong.You are comparing dalits of india and comparing their exclusion with almost all the church people which is wrong.For instance in hindu temples almost all hindus were allowed into temples and many ow caste hindus even became priests.Popular hindu yoga teacher baba ramdev belongs to farming caste but still he is considered as a priest or brahmin scholar by hindu people.There are many such low caste people have became brahmins in temples.Also in christianity there is untouchability praced too.go read about cagots in france and spain who were treated as untouchables.Go read about how gypsies and blacks were not allowed to drink water from same pool!!!For centuries, through the modern times, the majority regarded Cagots of western France and northern Spain as an inferior caste, the untouchables. While they had the same skin color and religion as the majority, in the churches they had to use segregated doors, drink from segregated fonts, and receive communion on the end of long wooden spoons. It was a closed social system. The socially isolated Cagots were endogamous, and chances of social mobility non-existent!!So christianity also had untouchability and in hinduism caste mobility definitely was possible.So again please4 go get educated on indaian matters before talking n0nsense!!
.There are many cases where low caste people created their own empires and declared themselves to be upper caste kashatriyas
Yes, but however as I pointed out; this was more as a result of the particular Jati rising up and usurping the throne for themselves; so in effect a violent upheaval and a drastic change of power structure of the particular area. It had little to do with upper caste benevolence as such. Plus, even these Jatis with social mobility still required the justification by their "caste superiors", particularly the Brahmins, which they usually did by making up extensive genealogies and showing the usurper to have descended from some Hindu deity. And that was more in the early and medieval eras of Indian history. Modern instances, particularly after the coming of the Afghans and the Mughals are very very rare, in fact so rare for it to be just an anomaly. If you look at my first post, I say exactly that. Caste mobility was there; perhaps in the early and medieval periods, but it became insanely rigid at some point of time, maybe by the time of the Guptas or as a reaction to the Afghan invasions.
There are many such low caste people have became brahmins in temples".
Any concrete examples, such as a name or the period ?
almost all hindus were allowed into temples and many low caste hindus even became priests."
The keyword here being "almost", I feel. As before, a concrete example would be nice.
The term dalit itself is quite a recent term. They constitute the Jatis which were in effect outside of the four point varna system i.e they were not even Shudras. So comparing them with Baba Ramdev is a moot point, I feel since he had the surname of "Yadav". So his acceptance as a Yogic teacher can be attributed to the fact that he could claim descent from Krishna, could he not? This argument will only end when a Dalit becomes a priest in a popular hindu temple, in my humble opinion.
Also, no one is insinuating that the Europeans were much more enlightened than Indians. They had far worse practices, and were in fact communal perhaps even before the word came into fashion. However, post enlightenment Europe has certainly moved on, while it seems we have not.
Also, how do you attribute the rise of the Bhakti movements in India ? Would you say it would be incorrect to state that the Bhakti tradition itself was a counter reaction to both the advent of the Afghans and the rigid varna system being followed at the time ?
shashi sir u put it well but not one mentionof subash chandra bose, who struggled for jai hind. he had an enormous contribution but u abjectly ignore him and endorse the fact of obliterating him from history of india, vry deplorable tut tut
Satnam Waheguru ji ki Jay Respectful Sir now my opinion is the best comfort zone of the World now I realise the life we create for ourselves is determine Delta minded by our general attitude towards the result you want you need to adopt a positive attitude and
According to a conservative estimate by a group of eminent economists Britain owes India about 200 trillion US dollars at current prices, as reparations. This is the scale of the loot spread over 200 years. Also, the number of Indians who died in recurring famines in India during the glory years of Crown Rule is, according to an estimate by a white anglo-saxon protestant British scholar based in Oxford University around 65 million. Not a single white Englishman died of starvation during British rule in India.( rather they died of over eating) This was genocide of Indians. Tharoor doesnt seem to be aware of the third degree torture that the colonial police reserved for nationalists in colonial India. Has he been to the Cellular Jail in the Andaman and Nicobar islands, which was established after 1857? Far greater numbers were slaughtered all over north India for two years by the Birtish than by the Nazis after the Indian revolution of 1857. This was a genocide of gargantuan proportions as it went on for two years till 1859.
Tharoor is wrong in assuming India cannot be broken up now... Please read "Breaking India" book by Rajiv and Aravind , there are still tremendous underground forces operating on ground. Tamil Nadu, West Bengal and Kashmir and north east states are potential candidates.
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
South India ❤️️😘🇮🇳
The best Indian public speaker I have heard in years: the rhythmic flow of his words, the precision of his words, the logic of his arguments backed by his knowledge of the facts, the irony and humor interjected and the body language and the insights are truly the mark of a gifted speaker.
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
Great man
At 20:45 the sound volume is suddenly decreased by half. Some lamebrain at the control board again!
Shashi Tharoor is the current historian of acclaim. I'd like to toss him a bouncer proverbially speaking.
Indian culture is spoken of as being centuries in existence. We're aware of two cultures which seem to have prevailed and left evidence of their having been here.
India seems to still be here notwithstanding being several centuries before the Greeks and the Romans. Can one assume that the basis of Indian culture has facilitated survival because of something about a more basic and enduring ingredient in its cultural fundamentals?
I'd really be obliged to hear the renowned Tharoor's views.
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
Sanjeev has uncanny resemblance to Shashi. He seems to b younger versions of Shashi
the audio keeps falling in between. C'mon guys, please ensure these things are done correctly when uploading videos on youtube.
Listen carefully it's important, he said A bishop appeared after 150 years of Brit rule in India ,and they did it for money.Yes this is quite revealing ,and true .They bought religion here and converted few in Kerala to get support for their money making ventures.And then exploited all weaknesses in our society at that time .Those who converted were ruthlessly opportunistic .
Oh boy!!! Please work on audio volume... Its too less for me...
the Vietnamese and the Indonesian have their Own language......we continue to cling to English . Even Americans changed everything including electricity switches driving on the right
VIETNAMESE ARE ONE HOMOGENEOUS PEOPLE ,YOU INDIANS ARE NOT ,YOU ARE A BABYLON OF LANGUAGES AND NATION, ARTIFICIALLY PUT TOGETHER BY THE BRITISH.THAT WHY VIETNAMESE HAVE A NATIONAL LANGUAGE AND YOU DO NOT,TRY TO FORCE THE TAMILS TO SPEAK YOUR STUPID HINDI OR URDU AND YOU WILL THE SHORTEST WAY OF THE DISINTEGRATION OF THIS SOVIET UNION OF SOUTH ASIA ,THIS BIG GULAG CALLED INDIA.TAKE CARE BUSBOY.
Partition was horrendous the suffering of that alone is potentially unforgivable. No higher God, than the truth.
Sajiv use SRI AUROBINDO whereas Shashi use that without SRI,.That makes big difference as getting respect from sensitive spiritual Indian
Tharoor writes...
tippu sultan abolished local language for administration n introduced persian-a foreign language.n accepted the Turkish caliph as his legitimate overlord.
Hello the sound fluctuates on this video after 20 minutes
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Audio became terrible towards the second half of the video. Could barely hear anything at all.
There's some serious audio issue after about 20 min of the video
Why is the audio so low?
Its not Bangalore now its officially called as Bengalooru which is derived from Bendha-Kal-Ooru which meant the land or place where peanuts or Green Gram(probably kalu) was Bendidhu(boiled) by the legendary chieftain Kannada warrior Kempegowda....
I would also implore Mr. Tharoor and others to examine the new regional party launched by the Kannada actor Upendra called as the Uttama Prajakeeya Party and study about its structure, working methodology and manifesto........I hope Tharoor and others to step out of Congressi dynastic politics.
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
Dear Colonial Tharoor , do you know the Vimana Shastra that was used by Wright brothers to construct the first plane ?
This man is a politician, not an historian. But good luck to him if it helps him.
although he is politician his word are fact based
I am sure that Sashi Tharoor would be regretting for not being born in Europe as white skinned.
Lmao but he love mughals ass more than white one.
Voice quality is poor. :(
It should be Bengaluru not Bangalore.
Sanjeev Sanyal rocks
Imagine Rahul Gandhi giving such kind of speeches. LOL.
I imagined but later my mom woke me up
all is well up until he says he doesnot agree mughal rule is foreign rule, they might have stayed here, spent their loot here but its true they were foreigners and it was a foreign rule.
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55:03 You have to say “handsome man”, not “beautiful man.”
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Please explain in your so eloquent English your wonderful caste system.
Mr Shashi... Please say something about another inglorious empire.. Mughal Empire.
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
Shashi Tharoor says that 'we' should know our history. The 'we' that he refers to is limited to the small part of India that can read English. If he really believed that all Indians, or all citizens of the soi-disant largest democracy in the world, should know their history, he would not write in a language that only people who are a part of a tyrannical self-absorbed and ruthless cabal know.
IREAD HISTORY IN bengali on school and it was.very comprehensive
Wrong judgement..English is what get the most exposure uniformly through out the nation than any regional language which has geographical confinements.. If he had written the book in Hindi or in Bengali, no south Indians could have been able to read that and vice verse if he have had written in Tamil or Malayalam..
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
Indians should be proud of themselves rather than looking towards the west for their savior(s).
Shashi Tharoor is intellectual hitman for Congressi version of India.
Is Mr Tharoor guilty of charge he faces in the matter of death of sunanda pushkar
Sanjeev Sanyal rightly characterizes Charles Allen as a patronizing racist. He also contrasts Indonesian historiography with the Indian. Perhaps the reason is that the Indonesian school system does not systematically deny access to the language of academic discourse to all but a small elite. To my knowledge, knowledge of Dutch is not a cruel tool of exclusion in Indonesia as English is in India. Access to good schooling in Indonesia, to my knowledge, is not oppressively divided between modern education for a small elite and abysmally inadequate education for the rest. IIM Bangalore spends more on the barbed wire fence that keeps out hoi polloi from its sprawling campus than a typical Karnataka medium high school in Bangalore does on library for its students, assuming that Karnataka medium high schools in Bangalore have a library.
Bitter fact, the British made india one nation.
It is a pity that a. book that explains British colonial exploitation is written in the language of the exploiter.
When you do proper research on history it becomes more obvious our view in Britan is tainted to say the least .
INA soilders KO doobara Army me nhi liya Gaya.....kyu kyuki unhone Bharat ko Azad Karne ke liye.....ladai ladi...😞
Why is the sound in the clip so so so bad? Can't some one do something about it!!!
fuckingof audio
sanjeev looks like shashi's son or brother..sorry no disrespect
Shashi Tharoor is the last person to be taken seriously 😐. He has the most subtle way to beat around the bush with his command over English language. Such a cheeky guy.
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Mr Tharoor , few points .
1. Do you know there is a huge Eastern India with many many states ? There is also Western India with many big states too ?
2. Do you Know vasco da gama looted India's wealth the most . Do you know there are 1000s of languages too ?
3. Do you know caste system was organized by Portuguese and the word caste itself is originated by them ? Do you know what Varna systems and Jaati was ?
4. Do you know that English language is killing India's education system ?
5. Do you know properly what East India Company has done to India ?
6. And Finally do you know what Congress has done to India by dividing Indian into many parts and problem of Kashmir and things that still continues ?
Grow up Mr British Apologetic Tharoor ?
Rajiv 😇😊apt questions! I can actually read between lines of Tharoor. Every time he talks about British apology he mentions financial compensation. He doesn’t genuinely believe that if we revive our Dharmic civilisation the whole world will flourish.
@@anupamagujadhur413 Ahimsa also. And Prema and Sath ...
the brits brought a rule of law which was the same for everyone was established. The princes and the servants fell under the same system of law, and so did all the states, including Kashmir.
peter-john de jong
But was it the rule of the same law for the English? Were crimes and offences committed by the English resident in india subject to the same laws? One thinks not.
I may further state that the English concept of the "rule of (English ) law" may not be a good system. France, and entire europe in fact, does admirably well without it. I shall provide specific examples if you so wish
What western principle justifies the sustaing of the white people by shipping the dfood from the foreign countryies to them during a famine in the countries from which the food is being shipped, leaving the natives die of starvation?
Khiljis weren't Turk. They were Afghan Pashtuns, they spoke Pashto, lived in Afghanistan, and were culturally Afghan. Their descendants the Ghilzai are the largest Pashtun tribal confederacy so please tell me which part of them was turkic?? Where in history have you ever heard of a Turkic tribe that adopted the Pashto language?? The Turkic tribes that settled in Afghanistan all spoke Persian. So if the Khiljis were originally Turkic then they would speak Persian apart from ofcourse one of the turkic languages.
@@amitkrishnani3160 ahh the butthurt Indian. It's so cute when you try to roar like lions from behind a computer screen ;) hahah
Muslim Rulers of India survived Arab nation's for almost 900 yrs in Indian money. And British ruled India for Money and Partitioned her for Money. My request to you Learned peaple is to know about what went wrong in Sindh . How many were hanged and killed by Brits. Peer Sibghat ullah Rashdi was hanged at age 43. By neglecting Sindh' s history of Raj days you are justifying Partition
I want a girl to look at me as Sanjeev looks at shashi
Mr. Shashi Tharoor as like as romila Thapar and Irfan Habib because Shashi Tharoor congressian historian and other two are communist historian. both are same. They did not praise Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose's contribution because they are all jealous on Subhash Chandra Bose. They are not like as Subhas chandra Bose level.
fate is now catching up for the English.even Scotland want to quit .leaving an insignificant little country of fast vanishing significance.
West Bengal wants to leave India, Kashmir, Telangana, Tamil Nada, Muslims India is not United
Tharoor’s history starts 800 or so years ago 🤣🤣🤣🤣
36:00 minutes......why only British and not the Portuguese? I agree. He has short term memory loss. If you can’t see beyond 200 years of historical evidence you have no right to be giving a discourse on history.
Shashi Tharoor rocks!
The British caused the famine in the first place.
REALLY ,MAYBE IT WAS THE READING OF KAMASUTRA AND PUTTING IN PRACTICE THE LESSONS FROM THAT BOOK THAT INCREASE YOUR POPULATION WHEN THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH FOOD TO GO AROUND.
oi why dont u allow tarek fatah...taslima nasreen....rajiv malhotra etc etc....that sort of people....u pseudo-liberal banglr litratr festvl owners.....afraid of mullas.....u r boring show anyway....
The English ain't gave us a dam thing we always had it ALL and always will have Everything .
Nehru spent 10yrs in jail? Bhai kitna jhoot bologe? 🤦♂️
Yes it's wrong. he spent only 9 years in jail but not in one go. He was jailed 9 times which collectively amount to 9 years in total.
@@deepjyotibhattacharjee4582 He had servants, newspaper, books, trips to switzerland, could meet people and go for walks. IDK if you call that as life of a prisoner.
@@nethisuman7516 trips to Switzerland 😂😂!
I didn't know that.
Technically he was jailed baki ab Kya kahu
@@deepjyotibhattacharjee4582 bolo toh bhai mne, jailed bolte h lekin kaisi jail kya facilities te woh koi batata ni kyuki narrative chalana h. You would be surprised to know even Gandhi spent just about 4 yrs lekin yeh bolenge 15yrs.
@@nethisuman7516😂 that's true. But official narrative is official and this govt will only challenge nehru but not Gandhi.
And u can't alter that
India was under the rule of so many small kings always fighting with one another paying taxes to the great rulers for centuries.The people lived in poverty without 3 times food, dress and shelter. Out of all rulers the British gave education dress code and good administration , transport facilities,road,electricity,laws,all the Government Depart ments, railway, aircraft, built dams for irrigation introduced many scientific techniques for the improvement of many. To cut the story into short 99% people of India lived under hopelessness .If we had not received Independence we would have been developed as Australia which is still under the control of The British. In no way they are as bad as our Politicians and Rulers. They only united India under one banner Still we are not united. We are divided in Caste Religion, Region. Our people kill human being for the one suspected to have killed a cow. Superstition. No Law and Order All the minorities are treated badly. No Judicial equivalence .
Well India was one of the richest countries before British arrived , glorious emperors and empires were on the throne and it shared world's highest gdp , ya there were some troublemakers but mostly people had a fortunate life I am sorry sir I am not sure which history has taught this see life before the colonisation and after that you would understand this see horrors of cellular jail and famines. I hope you would understand this I have seen your comment on various videos and it seems like you comment on every video disgracing British empire. One of my uncle's grandfather who was under colonisation had his leg cut off and nails plucked off just as he was fighting for freedom he is not very widely known , and pls don't say it was the case before empire also my uncle told his grandfather had had a better life before empire. I see you at many places supporting something wrong so I am saying pls don't reply or report
Its no use arguing such views as they are a result of colonial hangover. Sadly my father thinks Brits are some kind of super beings.
Ha idiot
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
Dr Shashi Tharoor, tells lies!
OF COURSE HE TELLS LIES TO GET THIS BACKWARDS PEOPLE WILD UP,SOMETHING WHICH DOES NOT TAKE TO MUCH TO DO FOR SUCH SAVAGE BACKWARDS PEOPLE.
Tharoor is appealing to the gullible masses to sell his congressi Mythology. He at the same time worships delhi sultante and mughal empire which were just as inglorious
Sanjeev Sanyal has more credible points. Tharoor behaved more like a Typical Islamist apologist Congressman. Sorry Mr. Tharoor but you can't survive based on wide vocabulary and British Accent only. So, speak some practical points instead of flattering people with your English only.
Ajay Dahiya this called sadism
A man showing clear cut secularism, you r saying he is islamist
He is. Listen to him carefully. Get out of the comfort Zone and fake peace.
+Ajay Dahiya I sense that he wanted to say more but was probably reserved due to his political affiliations.
Ajay Dahiya what else you want to listen.
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
respected brahmin breed both of you acting very smart . well scripted
what the hell this man sasi tharoor depicting Bhagat singh as terrorist. how dare he!!!!
Sashi Tharoor is wrong. Either uneducated or liar but simply wrong. Horrible disturbing comments shows ignorance racism propaganda. Indiañs are fools to believe such nonsense
Shashi , move on , stop sounding like old person
what do you mean like an old person?
Mihir zzz why keep talking about the past lol
Vinay N.K after so many years why bring an old history , Indian politicians have screwed it anyway
india was already in a shithole by the time British colonialism came along, British colonialism merely exploited it, but in doing so it also gave India a ladder.
Denver Britto UK on that time was a poor state.
And India was known as "bird of gold".
That's why u poor thief came India and looted them..
UK is world's biggest "market of thievery".