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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2011
- Russell Armstrong's wife knew he hated the Bravo show, and that the next season would further humiliate him. Still, she persisted, without a thought about his mental health. Now, even, his suicide will not stop her or the executive Andy Cohen of Bravo from running the next season anyway. No one is there to stand up for the dead man. A network with no moral compass, underlines the diminished value of the life of a married man.
He was a lost man and beat the hell out of his wife . Show didn't do it to him .
@@mgal6234 her black eyes? His debt?
@@mgal6234 he's a narcissist. They care about appearances. And is your stupid ass actually suggesting that rich people can't be abused?
To me, sometimes it seems as though more money = more problems...
M Gal you disgust me! Just because she spend money on something, it doesn’t mean that she can’t be abused.
M Gal Appearence is a huuuge part of living in Beverly Hills, obviously he would cover it with money
Season one, when they went to las vegas that moment russell told taylor they were leaving, the fact that she was having fun and didn't hesitate, the fact that she just stand up and left is when my brain realize he was abusing her
Also, how he grabbed her by the arm and was just not looking at the camera’s at all. It was all just so horrifying...
EXACTLY
I remember the first episode of the series and a few things Taylor said made me think Russell was an arsehole. I rewatched it recently and the things Taylor says and how she behaves hint she was being abused. It just goes to show that you never really know what goes on behind closed doors.
Exactly! As someone who grew up with abuse, he gave me bad vibes from the beginning, but that episode and at Kennedys birthday I felt sick to my stomach, I knew what would happen when they were alone... 😥
Yep. Never have I been somewhere and my husband said "We're leaving." he might say "I'm getting tired can we go soon?" or something like that, and in fact my husband is willing to leave himself and have me stay and I can go home when Im ready. The fact that he didn't even have a conversation with her to include her in the decision making was a huge red flag
The show saved Taylor. He died as a consequence of his own conscience. If u blame the show a mirror would have done the same. He couldn't live with himself. You cannot blame the show. The show was a platform for him to be able to see himself, how others percieve him, he used it as a negative. He created the debt, he made his wife live in fear. He died rather than ask for help. Or to make time for the hell Taylor provided. His choice as Kyle says, his choice.
Very well said!
?, ?, did u see the pictures? She said it and remained with him. If she was out just to hurt him she would have left him and then said horrible things. He behavior was clearly that of an abused women.
@?, ?, you're a fool. His first marriage was riddled with abuse as well. His first wife got a restraining order from him of their kid. He clearly had abused her for years
?, ?, 2 of the women saw her covered in bruises & swollen. You probably believe in pizzagate & voted Trump. I pity your wife (if you managed to keep one) & hope you get the expensive help you so badly need.
Also, maybe you, ‘a man’ should stop watching Real Housewives & go change a tire, watch porn or do anything more ‘manly’. Fool...😑
@?,?, oh shut up
This could've ended even worse. This could've been a murder-suicide. Just be grateful that he didn't take Taylor and Kennedy with him because I definitely think it was the relm of possibility. He was abusive to Taylor, you could see it and feel it a mile away. Everytime he wanted to leave an event, you got the distinct feeling like..shes going to get it when they get home. Russel was very aware of the cameras and you could see it made him very uncomfortable, he had to control himself and he knew that but there were a couple times you could see really see the anger. I remember hearing that he attacked Taylor at their house in front of her friend, threw her in the pool and tried to drown her.
The show would've loved! a murder-suicide!!!!! Think of the ratings!!!!!
That reminds me of what happened with Chris Benoit
Exactly, we’ll said
Abusers get their power from the fact that no one knows. They're counting on no one knowing.
This is the comment we needed. Throughout the show he deliberately made attempts to alienate Taylor from everyone. Not just the cast but I’m sure all of Taylor’s friends were worried about legal repercussions and put some space between them and her. He Most likely knew what the cameras caught on the show, knew he would be exposed and have to face the consequences of that. I believe that was a large factor in his decision to kill himself.
You have no idea if he was chronically abusing her. Why do people make comments like this without knowing anything about the situation
Colton who said chronic abuse, i mean I would guarantee that he was abusing her physically and emotionally for the duration of their relationship, but like don’t speak on what’s not there. Secondly, a woman literally is shown on television with visible facial bruising as a result of spousal abuse, and mf’s really are out here like “you don’t know he did anything to her.” Like what will it take for people to believe women/victims of abuse
how do you know?
@@coyotemixes8207 Do you know what the word "chronically" means? Hitting her once is one thing, "chronical abuse" is something different. Like I said, you have no idea what the situation was so how do you get off talking about it like you have any sort of clue. You just look stupid.
This show saved Taylor's life.... Adrienne said it before "Somebody is going to be 6 feet under" ... very sad for Kennedy.. she is the true victim in this mess. This was definitely the most dramatic and real season of any franchise..
I love AM
When did Adrienne day that ? Season 1?
@@jmcmlxxxix She said it at the season two reunion
Benyikoko would love to know in what contex? Wasn’t the reunion filmed before Russels death? Thanks
@@jmcmlxxxix Adrienne said that, prior to Russell's suicide, she always told Taylor that eventually somebody is going to be 6 feet under. It was either going to be Taylor or Russell.... Very scary that she already knew..
Oh.. The dead man that made a choice to beat the sh*t out of his own wife and destroy her as a person and a mother?? The man that CHOSE to leave his family destitute, and his daughter without a father, and a legacy of suicide? No one else had a say when he took his life. Yes, he is dead.. But let's not all go and call him Saint Russell. People are very complex as are human relationships. There are a lot of facets to this tragedy. Taylor and her daughter being the biggest victims as they survive
Well said!
Russell gave me weird vibes on the show to begin with.....idk what it was but it seemed weird.
Even before I watched season 2 (I'm really behind) I go odd vibes from him. He seemed like he was hiding something
@@MissStephy100 He seemed like an introvert and very sad
julius caesar he did seem introverted to me as well
@?,?, that's why all other husbands were a delight to watch right? Because from episode 1 they wanted to make russell a monster despite the abuse only being brought up in season 2
julius caesar no he seemed like a controlling husband.
They all said that “there were no signs”... um if you watch the first season... there are signs.
she'd always say "i want what kyle and mauricio have", that one time when he pulled her by her arm in las vegas and told her 'we're leaving", and her being sad while she was walking to the door. Her saying that their relationship was 80% business and 20% romance. Him leaving when they had plans with the group in a free weekend. Ver saying "when Russel says no, it's no" and "Russel controls the relationship".
There absolutely were signs
He abused his wife; so much she had to put fillers around he eyes to keep them where they are.
And you're saying bravo has no morals?
lol he beat her so hard her right eye drooped down three inches.
Having elective plastic surgery does not mean abuse
dreza 4 what ?? he beat her ... the end!! he got what he deserved
@@pla5730 You dont know that with certainty. All those women are pumped fulled of Botox. He took his own life.......He will meet his maker. Far be for ANY of us to judge friggin reality television.
@@lorst55 I'm not debating plastic surgery I'm saying he abused her terribly and I do know this with certainty its proven with police reports and eye witnesses so there is proof
I remember seeing Taylor when she was a guest speaker my freshman year and she talked about domestic abuse. That woman went through it. Told us about why shes had so much work done on her face, why she acted out on rhobh(we all knew) and how she dealt with it. She is such a strong woman.
Wow..when?
@@fairyharmony8766 october 2018 at penn state
@@carolynconron9555 Wow I'm just watched RHOBH season 1 and 2 it was kinda sad what happened to her she had a lot of crisis because the abuse and her husband death.. she is really stronger.
Doubt it's real woman, hence the endless plastic surgeries, this show should be named The Real T**nnies, not Housewives
This season hasn't aged well at all. The constant victim blaming of Taylor is heartbreaking and Bravo were so reckless with how they produced this. My heart broke for her... and for Kim... (like it does every season that she is pulled on and used for content). Both girls were not truly truly supported. I will credit LVP for calling it and believing Taylor. Even her polite way of saying that she could never connect with him and avoided throwing in sympathetic thoughts around his suicide. Well neither could I. He was an abuser. They should have called it as it was. He threatened Taylors life and could have killed her and his daughter. This meeting never should have been given the air time in the first place.
Kyle says it all. I live through the same thing in NYC. It's important to be around ambitious people, but not people who LIVE for money and status.
Stiff Wit true
Very sad but true.......
That’s the different between rich people and wealthy people. Rich people are more desperate hold on to their status. Wealthy people have it, are comfortable and secure in it, and don’t let it define them.
@@hothotheat3000 There’s no difference you people just make this stuff up. Rich and wealthy is the same thing.
@@arp2178 lamooo
Russell agreed to do the show. Even if he didn't like it, he still agreed. There are ways you can avoid being on the show (and even talked about on the show) which Russell should have investigated further if he was so uncomfortable with it. Second, if you didn't like the show, and you had concerns about your portrayal on the show, the last thing you'd be doing is beating your wife. Clearly the reason he didn't like the show is because it put the spotlight on their marriage which was clearly strained and clearly under Russell's authority.
I don't even like Taylor but I don't blame her for finding the show as somewhat of an aid to help her in her struggles. There's simply no defence for Russell here.
I agree. Taylor even said she jumped at the chance of appearing on the show, because at least the cameras would offer some protection.
What a sad and pathetic opinion. Someone has killed themselves and you pathetic people are justifying it.
Safina Tee Are you being serious? How the fuck are we justifying his suicide? What we said is this, we understand why Taylor chose to do the damn show.
i have been abused and don't want to diminish anyone's story and i always believe what they have to say but this time its so different..taylor loves the spotlight and has said she would give anything not to go back to being poor so quite honestly i have to agree that taylor is exaggerating and making up stories to make him look bad and therefore people are taking his death with more of a "good riddance" attitude which is absolutely not okay. don't hate..im not about that, this is just what i have seen and it kinda seems like she took her stories from her abuse with her father (or mother's husband...idk for sure if it was a biological relative) and replaced him with Russell..for instance we never saw her jaw broken and no bruises anywhere and even the housewives said they never saw that from him so it really seems like she told stories about her early childhood abuse and claimed it was Russell..it's odd that the cameras didn't catch his "abuse" once not even a hint of it...being awkward or wanting to go home or wanting to work doesn't make you abusive. idk i just really think she's a little twisted and we shouldn't believe everything we hear.
caesar brighton not a suicide ,things don't add up
The first 3 seasons of RHOBH is legit the realest and most dramatic of any franchise. Possible of any reality television show. This was before glam squads and before it became necessary to create dramatic reactions and storylines. The natural real-life events surrounding these housewives was shown as it was and a lot was truly going on that happens across America and the world. It was relatable to an extent but also fascinating but in a sad and disturbing way at times.
Today it’s all glamour and nonsense. Anything to not actually really talk about anyones personal business.
The problem with the mostly bland drama on the franchises today is that many have become actual celebrities since the debut of the real housewives and the rise of social media and instant reaction after it airs. Many of todays housewives don’t want to bring their personal stuff onto the show because they don’t want to be judged on social media and swarmed with reactions instantly. When these shows first started social media was extremely minimal, almost like emailing - we got on the PC to use it. We were still using bar phones by the majority in 2007-2010.
Social media wasn’t big then, now it’s everything and I believe that’s what’s really ruined the Housewives.., lol I say ruined but I’m still watching 😂
Legit, realest and more dramatic than RHOA and RHONJ in their early seasons? CHILE, SIT DOWN!
@@RWRogers Nah, Jersey been top tier since season 1, thanks to Teresa and Danielle! NeNe got ATL jumped off! And season 6 was the highest rated Housewives season of all franchises. BH got good to me when Brandi joined. But the first two seasons of BH was about wealth and glam. And Camille was such a perfect villain!
This is facts bro. Camille divorce, russel being and abuser, Kim being addicted to pills. Pretty much covered all the basis for 2010’s real life struggles
It was the most riveting season of all the housewife franchises.
Definitely
for sure! still can't believe it...
Rob Williams for real they all came together in unison
Serlom Cole yeah.. they did... it was so emotional. So hard for all of them
What season is that?
HIS mental health? You don't get to physically abuse someone for years and then cry that they don't care about your mental health when they leave you and move on with their life smdh. This is absurd, why would his suicide stop her? Literally all objections are gone! (and good riddance, his suicide was probably the kindest thing he'd done in years).
Amber heard is all I’m going to say no1 knows if it’s true
There’s documented proof of the bruises he gave her, and the reconstruction surgery she had to undergo after one of his beatings. Friends have also come out and recounted times Russell was violent with Taylor in front of them. Bravo themselves even said they had to edit a lot of his controlling and threatening behavior out. Plenty of evidence to show the abuse was true
It’s an incel channel. What do you expect?
Uh blatantly left out in your little paragraph that he is actually dead bc the abuse was now on national television and realized and he could hide no more from who he really was . That is why he is dead and you should be more accountable and due diligence without using make outrage and saying it’s bravo and Taylor - you are victim blaming
?, ?, Oh please, haven’t you seen the pictures? He beat the shit out of her. People like you who accuse women of making this stuff up are a great part of why so many women stay silent.
Anne Stratinga exactly .. probably another abusive ass man trying to defend another
@@lorst55 its best you stat away from the CZcams comment section if you are that sensitive ... lol perhaps a Christian channel ??
@@pla5730 Its best if your too dam sensitive to accept my remarks. Issues with constructive criticism ?? Perhaps you should bypass my comments P La. I can handle myself in comment section contrary to your perception.
Absolutely. He was about to be exposed, he knew it, and so he killed himself. I don't think suicide as cowardly, but he took the cowards way out.
the fact that your video description defends this guy is disgusting. I don’t care how old the video is, the man abused her and when Taylor was going to make this public, he went and took his own life. Suicide is an awful thing but you cannot blame the victim of the abuser for the abusers decisions
What proof is there? This man can’t defend himself.
@@maddielopez8625 there is photo evidence and she had to have a metal plate put in her face because he broke her orbital bone, there is nothing to defend
@@maddielopez8625he admitted to it himself on the show
I have never seen a season without Lisa Rinna. Evryone actually looks beautiful here. Kim looks healthy.
The first two seasons are on Netflix
All housewives series are on Hulu. I highly suggest. The first 2 seasons of every series are always the best
Hulu
Arlee Dennis lisa rinna was the beginning of the downfall in BH. it used to be one of the best, now it been consistently in the bottom
you have to watch the first two seasons theyre the best
This scene has been removed from streaming services completely. Its so confusing watching the show where Taylor said shes getting a divorce straight into the reunion where they talk about his suicide. Nothing is referenced in the show it was all cut on reruns.
Yeah. Because suicide is “triggering.”
THIS it’s definitely not on Hulu
Ok this makes sense. I thought I was going crazy ! Bravo shouldn't have removed it. It's real life. That's what they're portraying right?
He took the easy way out. Glad he's dead though, any domestic abuser can do what he did.
Have some respect for the dead!!! Dude...
Benyikoko he doesn’t deserve respect!!! You damn near tried to kill your own wife!!! He took the selfish way out
I think it was good that they continued the show. It would be unfair to pretend it just didn't happen. Suicide happens quite a lot unfortunately. I've lost four friends in the last two years, its a terrible thing to go through. But this reality show is about showing these peoples lives and this is something they went through. In saying that i would have wished that maybe they took a step back on showing him and taylor for most of the season. Especially showing so much about the violence.
RHOBRAVO he did every body a favor.. scumbag
They said they re-edited the season but if that's the case I wonder what they cut out cus there's still tons of awful footage of him in this season
Does anyone know what Episode and season this is ??? For some reason I feel it’s mentioned for a second at the end of season 1 and then not on the rest of the episodes on Hulu
I really miss Adrienne on the show
Me too.
I do too.. she was a good voice of reason and she got screwed over by everyone except Kyle and Camille... Adrienne was the best!!! The original cast is always the best
She's fucking horrible
Love her, miss her a lot!
maya why?
Male outrage, Russell was an adult, he didn't have to be on the show. He had more problems than people knew, I feel sorry for his wife and child, but you can't blame them!
Lol this title
ur everywhere
This entire channel tbh...
Accurate
I work in Mental Health, as an RN with Psychiatric Doctors and I have been told by these Drs that at times suicide is a violent statement. Especially how they died, whom they planned to find them and what was written in the suicide note. Russell’s suicide note was that briefcase of his secrets, maybe saying “fuck you Taylor, look what I did behind your back.” Also when partners accuse you of something that’s untrue, it’s usually because they are doing it themselves. She was bashed for “perceived” secrets. I’m sorry but if he continued to be that violent towards her, he did her a favour, intentional or non-intensional. I do feel for people that are suicidal but this instance was guilt or trying to make Taylor feel like shit... and she doesn’t so GOOD FOR TAYLOR!!!!!! No one killed Russel but himself. 😘
I wonder why they cut this from Hulu- I was so confused about what happened that I had to come to CZcams. I hope that Taylor & Kennedy are doing well now, and I hope they are safe and healing each day. 💘
Same! This is my first time seeing this. For the longest time I just assumed they skipped over it.
I was so confused! I was like whoa you can't just speed past that!
I had to rewatch both episodes where the recap to this scene was played and I couldn't even find the damn thing till I googled it. I thought I'd go bananas!!!!
Which episode is this??
They eliminated this scene but for why?
Thank you for posting this. I am watching season 2 on Amazon Prime and when I got to the last episode I was like, whaaaat?? Russell's death??? For some strange reason they deleted this scene from episode 1, so episode 20 made zero sense until I found this clip on CZcams.
Same! I was confused bc they didn't show this clip in the series on Peacock
My dad killed himself two months ago and no one- NO ONE could tell me or convince me anything anyone else had done would have changed his choice. He made terrible decisions and betrayed the loyalty of everyone he knew and the family he created- then killed himself rather than face his image being tarnished and the facade being broken. This is something that SHOULD be brought awareness to.
How are you doing?
$65,000 on a 4 year old's party - there's the sign
Even the richest of rich wouldn't do that.... look at Adrienne.. she is rich but, you can tell; she knows how to keep things on the DL
@@Benyikoko it's probably because Taylor loves Kennedy more than anything in the world and focusing on an elaborated birthday party gave her also some rest from thinking about how horrible her situation with her husband was. Yes, 65k is ridiculous, but it might be understandable when facing so many horrible things and being disabled so much by your parter
@@Seilah789 if you looked at the party it was more for Taylor than it was for her daughter lol
@@medusamedusa1490 they mostly showed the table and I doubt that that table alone cost 65k. There's also entertainment, other kid activities and catering that was paid for
Sign of what exactly?
"Suicide is transferring your pain to your left behind loved ones"
You are enough...
You not alone....❤❤❤❤
Why do they make it seem like she is lying. From someone who was in a very physically abusive relationship, people stay. That doesn't mean that the abuse isn't happening. It is so complex, and especially with children and finances. Luckily I eventually got out, but it takes time and opportunity to do so.
That is soooo true! I was also a victim of an abusive relationship, you just have to wait and see, unless you want to lose your own life. Many victims lost their lives because of not being "careful", you are living with an monster, that's all, they are not "normal", they don't act in a normal way.
That part upset me too. The fact that they portrayed her as a liar because she didn't leave right away. That is the most typical behaviour ever for an abused woman. ESPECIALLY one who grew up in a household where abuse was par for the course.
I've stayed in abusive relationships before, sadly, especially in my early 20s, because I saw and felt that sort of thing as a tiny child, so my threshold for mistreatment isn't as low as it should be. It really hurt to experience the suspicion and the doubt the first time it happened when I confided in my friends. I'm glad my closest friends believed me or I might not have found the courage to leave when I did.
Let's get these two sisters of the show , Kyle still crying in 2016 , and Kim still thinks she has got a raw deal in life 😴
It s the same in 2020
Adrienne was one of the best housewives ever. She's a massive miss
Imagine calling all of your friends over to support each other after your others friends husband commits suicide, but you don’t invite the actual friend who it happened to?
I wouldn’t invite her either! She has a child, She needed to be home with her child.
Very strange
Bravo sucks!🤦🏾♀️
He didn't have to participate in the show. In the same way as Amy Osbourne didn't. When The Osbournes was filmed.
Suzi Smart
@Spring Cardinal exactly. thats exactly the way she wanted it to be.
When I first saw the first season Russell showed us how abusive he is. I'm glad this was not a murder-suicide.
he did this to himself. It was his choice and there is no show, no woman to blame. HIS CHOICE
It was his choice, god bless the people he left behind. I believe Taylor did the show to seek protection I hope she and Kennedy are doing really well 🦋💖
Taylor the entire season fed information to all of them so it was hard for them not to speak of it on camera. It could have been that Taylor’s only way out was for someone to expose it. Some of the ladies were frustrated because she would say one thing and then say another. Camille called her out perfectly, she needed out. Camille kinda saved her?
How did they make this about them?
Thats humans for you...the most vile creations
He was abusive. Are we supposed to feel bad?
Yes. We are. It's called humanity.
You could see Russell wasnt right he had those dark soulless eyes he was a complete narc that beat the 💩 out of Taylor
Thank god she found her happy 😆
Russell's face his eyes, his muscles on his face all spoke to me about how deeply depressed and troubled that person was
This brought back so many sad memories for me. My father committed suicide when I was 18. He didnt leave a note either to say why. I was distraught and couldnt get past it until I was much older and had the life experiences that lead to such a place when I lost my son. It was those feelings that I remembered having that stopped me from going down into such a dark place. It is easy to be angry with someone when they kill themselves but they are in a very dark place and dont think rationally.
Why are they sad a wife beater died?
I'm watching rhobh for the first time and just finished season 2. They don't have this footage on the premiere at all nor do they mention it at all until the end of the finale 3 weeks after Pandora's wedding when Kyle says "This is the first time I've seen Taylor since Russell died", I had to rewind. Then in the reunion part 1 they talked about his suicide and the decision to "run the episode." Very confusing. I've watched VPR since season one and while it's on it's break figured I'd watch rhobh.
M&M 66 I’ve watched the show since season1. When season 2 was aired they showed this clip first having the Housewives talk about Taylor and they spoke about Russel taking his own life.
@@juanarambul6101 Yeah. Sometimes you can only see certain things in an episode if you watch it during the actual release date. I don’t know why but I’ve found that sometimes over time the producers might cut things out of an episode. It just happens sometimes I guess 🤷♀️
Im watching it for the first time too and this definitely confused me
Nobody is "standing up for the dead" because he abused her. Why would anyone want to?
I only started the series during quarantine. Kyle drives me bananas she's such an instigator. But did they show this part on the series I must've missed it.
No they never they filmed and showed it once then took it off out of respect dit taylor and her daughter
Your assessment of Kyle is spot on and she only gets more annoying and vile as the seasons go on.
Same lol
That's because she's close to the producers. She basically casted most of the crew and where most of the ladies were just partly scripted into the scenes, Kyle was sort of the instigator of the entire narrative. She thinks she'd being low key about it while in fact everyone can see how she's practically the writer of the show, otherwise the ladies would get along just fine. When brandi first got into the show, of course the drama had to be Kyle. Also, Mauricio is such a little girl for chatting with his wife and her girlfriends about high school girl stuff. What grown man does that!? 😂
@@Yourhighnessnona oh that makes sense no wonder she's so involved in all of the drama! I can't believe what she puts her sister thru in the show publicly it's very sad. I'm on Season 6 having trouble pushing thru with all the drama all the time geesh.
If you can’t save a loved one SAVE yourself ❤️
*This was one of the most important stories that RHOBH told. Important for awareness of so many issues.*
I watched this season on Hulu. They didn't play this clip at the beginning of the season. So, by the end, I was blind-sided!
Same I was so confused
I work on suicide hot lines and one thing in all my years counseling, comforting and helping people who need psychological counseling, I can say, if a person is suicidal there is NEVER just one person, place or thing that can be blame for why suicide was a perfect option! So sad he couldnt get some objective perspective realise he needed help. Imo, no one person can MAKE another that depressed that they no longer see suicide is a permanent solution for a temporary problem. I pray and reassure to everyone that has been touched by suicide one way or another, if you feel guilty or to blame....its just not necessary and you can drop that burden. Forgive yourselves....there was no stopping that growing that snowball that was in the works for a very long time! 💞
No he was an abuser. His was abusing his wife he could have switch to the kids. Good thing he doesn’t have the occasion to do that now ! How many suicide BECAUSE OF people abusing them. It’s the victims that you need to save not the predator. You would have help a monster feel good after what he did and then he would have do it all again. What’s the point? The girls needed to be saved. The show saved them. Who could see how fragile Taylor was. You know kids either become an abuser because of their father or the exact opposite. And theirs kids could have been abuser too by repeating his dad action etc. It’s a circle. They destroy families and people. Nothing good comes out.
His demons caught up with him, the end.
a toxic person committed suicide because he couldn't handle the consequences of his actions. and you go on to blame the women and the show. cool.
I think he committed suicide because he was stealing money from his partner's.
Kyle always makes sure she has to be most sad, the most concerned, the most emotional.
"It was his choice" wasn't very sympathetic considering the state of mind a person has to reach to end their existence.
I think she’s just an emotional person. People can be naturally emotional you know.
I don't feel bad for him. A wife beater? Who cares!? I only feel for Taylor.
Am I missing something? What's wrong with continuing the show? If I killed myself, I wouldn't expect the world to stop for me.
They meant they decided to show the scenes they'd filmed when Russell was still alive and in them.
This is a horrible situation to be in PERIOD. Rather you are being abused or the abuser on National Television! This subject was hinted at time and time again. No one wins here, ESPECIALLY their daughter. Nothing else matters.
ComancheBrat I respect the way you stated the plain facts without throwing in critical judgement on either side of the coin. You made the most mature comment on this page.
i agree bravo has no morals, they should slandered his name WAYYY more than they did.
I remember the birthday party for their daughter. He gave her the puppy after Taylor said no. The look he gave her was really creepy.
You could tell by the way he always acted like he was better than everyone else that he had serious issues. Also then the fact that everyone knew he hit his wife etc. Some people are just prone to depressive episodes and I can image how it happened but it is wrong to do that to his daughter.
He beat her, and left her with all that debt. I'm so proud she got it settled and has found love again. I wish her luck. As for him, he can rot!
Lisa is so beutiful
She is my favorite
I don't agree with Mauricio. How can he judge the person taking their life as selfish?! People who commit suicide do it because living hurts too much.
SusanBrooklyn anger is a normal part of grief, especially when dealing with a death by suicide. It’s hard to put ourselves in the position of someone who is so mentally gone, whereas being rational as Mauricio is, he’s thinking about his own family and feels it is “selfish” to leave them. Obviously suicide isn’t selfish and those people need help, but people who are grieving go through those emotions and have those feelings and it’s totally normal.
Suicide doesn’t stop the hurt. It passes it on to everyone you’ve ever known instead.
He sucked tho
He had a wife n kids whom he left to fend for themselves without so much as a note...sounds kinda selfish
SusanBrooklyn everyone is hurting at some point in your life. I also think is selfish when you have kids
LVP has always been the adult in the room.
The his choice is how I feel about people who commit suicide. To some people it may be selfish but to the person they just wanna stop hurting and they just can’t take it anymore.
He was a pretty terrible man who beat the hell out of his wife . He did this shit to himself and he alone is responsible for his decision
It’s a shame it came to that, but Taylor deserved to be free from the abuse and live her life ❤
I just watched seasons 1 & 2 for the first time, on Netflix. This footage wasn’t included. Is this from something else that aired or was it cut from the series I wonder?
it’s been edited out from all streaming platforms. makes it really confusing when watching.
i hate russell anyway, domestic abuse?really?
Why the hell was Kim even there? She had nothing to do with this storyline all season. Didn’t she check into rehab a few days later?
That description (that’s a male for sure who described the summary of the video) written below the video clearly that person doesn’t know the abuse and self centered russell was before he hung himself. Taylor had to get re-construction surgery on her eye because of russell punching her. He was verbally and physical abusive towards Taylor. So who cares if for once Taylor decides to do what she wants. And if that’s to keep on filming, then that’s fine. And no one should make Taylor feel guilty for keeping up still with filming.
The fact they cut this out of the hulu version lol
He was not in the right frame of mind...he was not in control of his choices!
"Russell dead. Let's do the show anyway!" Spot-on titling. BRAVO!
He deserved to do some time in jail to deal with the consequences of his actions but nope he took the easy way out.
While I agree that the network of Bravo is morally corrupt, being on the side of an abuser ain't a good look. I don't care for Taylor but the abuse she suffeed at his hands robs me of any sympathy for him killing himself.
They cut this out didnt they? this clip isnt on netflix
Yah I was wondering about that too
It's not on Hulu either.
which season is this? I am on season 2
@@Judie.jose89 season 2
Why would they stop the show?
F Russell. Taylor did her best. I am a survivor of my abusive ex’s SCide and I’m 51. It was decades ago, gory, I saw things and I’m still not fully OK. This show is not scripted. I worked in Reality TV. This is real life and it was so hard to watch this but the show honestly must go on. There’s a lot to that saying. Life goes on. We all have struggles and the point is that tide and time stop for no man.
God Bless Taylor, Kennedy and everyone affected. This show resonates with me bc of this and the sisters complicated relationship mirrors my own.
What episode is this ?? Anyone ?
Yes help
Taking your own life is not freaking selfish! It's theur own life. It's selfish for people to force people to live who are absolutely hopeless and miserable. Emotional, mental or physical pain affects people differently. Not everyone is strong enough to deal with it.
It’s also selfish to abuse your wife and make her feel like she has to stay with you to support your daughter
@@megannconwayy but i’m not talking about that though so why the hell are you commenting your irrational nonsense on my comment?
Why would they stop production because a domestic abuser and business scammer died? Smh.
What episode is this? Where can i find it
it was supposed to be part of the final episode of season 2 I believe but has been edited out of all streaming platforms.
I remember seeing this before the release of the season, but, I hadn’t seen this on any re-airings (is that a word?) but I think that it’s great to be able to see how they, as a cast, came together to discuss a topic that is very taboo
Because the producers made them
He was in financial ruin... and taylor throwing 60,000 parties for her child didn't help...
I love Kyle and Mauricio you people have a wonderful family,and beautiful girl please do not let anyone come between you and your husband,if your sisters didn't invite you to his daughter wedding who cares they should take they wedding ,you too have beautiful daughters be happy and enjoy you husband and ur daughters peace.
negbloe minopol I see straight through Kyle. She is the fakest of all the cast.
Yes best couple
I think the women looked better before cutting their faces further
I still wonder to this day if he did it as another form of abuse towards Taylor.
..... he was physically and emotionally abusing her the entire time. Dawg. wtf is this video description. You want to cape for a dude who was BEATING her
WhAt episode is this
They were so young and beautiful.
He was abusive. I don’t give. Fuck about what he would have wanted.
I’m sorry but your comments are factually incorrect on so many levels. He was a perpetrator of domestic violence and was involved in dubious business choices. His actions caught up with him and ultimately his guilt around the financial fallout from his venture capitalist endeavours was the catalyst for his choice to end his life. His death is tragic, nobody deserves to die prematurely through suicide. But you cannot blame that on Bravo. I think Bravo have been complicit in heaps of other situations historically, in the sense that they allowed things to happen that were morally questionable. But in all fairness, this isn’t one of those situations.
Im sorry but the one positive i got was that he didnt take them with him
taylor said in the reunion that her shrink and other psychiatrists shes talked to, say that in a lot of situations like hers it often ends in murder suicide. i really believe she could’ve been dead too if it wasn’t for the cameras. i also believe russel may had been going through something mentally, i’m not excusing anything but i think that could help people understand. i also believe he would’ve committed suicide either way i think it was just a matter of time... ofc i can’t speak as i didn’t know him and don’t know the behind the scenes but that’s what i think
I don't know if it was guilt or embarrassment or what that led him to suicide but Taylor certainly did the right thing leaving an abusive relationship and should have felt guilty about nothing. I have empathy for him having the demons inside of him that made him behave the way he did. I don't think most people are born evil and I'm sorry for whatever happened to him to make him the way he was and I do hope he is at peace
I am interested in seeing what her return to Orange county housewives is like. I imagine they will reflect some on this time, since for many, it'll be the first time really seeing Taylor on the screen again.