Get Hornless Wyll even after recruiting Karlach (New method) // Baldur's Gate 3
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- Kill Mizora in early Act 1 and Get Hornless Wyll even after recruiting Karlach (New method) // Baldur's Gate 3.
BG 3 has a great character customization system which includes: BARBARIAN, BARD, CLERIC, DRUID, FIGHTER, MONK, PALADIN, RANGER, ROGUE, SORCERER, WARLOCK, WIZARD and other subclasses, races & backgrounds. Baldurs Gate 3 has a great alchemy crafting system, spells & actions, illithid powers & cantrips. Weapon Proficiency is related to your class. The companions you'll get in this game are ASTARION, SHADOWHEART, GALE, LAE'ZEL, WYLL, KARLACH, HALSIN, MINTHARA, MINSC. There are hirelings too. All the quests & npcs feel lively. This game is full of thrills, romance & adventure. You'll get a lot of magical and secret items throughout the world. The map of the world here is very big. Talking about Baldur's Gate 3 which is a role-playing game set in the Dungeons & Dragons universe. It is the third game in the Baldur's Gate series and was developed and published by Larian Studios. The game was released in early access for macOS, Windows, and Stadia in 2020. It was released for Windows in 2023 and for macOS and PlayStation 5 in 2023.
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If you just want the Infenal Robe, just take one Selunite Robe from Isobel's room at Last Light Inn and dye it red.
Gets the looks not the stats
@@baskhd336 Potent robe better anyway
@@iinciner8 infernal robe helped me out so much in act 1. The fire shield is so useful
why would you do that when its just a plan old robe? Infernal robe gives you a +1 to armour and fire shield spell.
Ugly? Those horns are fucking baller.
I think to each their own. I also like the horns, but some people don't.
I think that when Larian decides to patch *this* out, they should also include a unique glamour ability for Wyll that makes him appear like he doesn't have horns, but maybe include some flavor text that says it can only hide their existence from others - for Wyll, they are still very much real and still very heavy.
The problem is, if you used that trick to keep Wyll without Horns, think of act 3. In the end he will not step up for Karlach in the end and Karlach will either have to die or become a Mindflayer. I tested it like 3 months ago myself. It doesn't matter if you recruit Wyll after Karlach or before. We key is, that he remains human and then has no reason to become the Blade of Avernus. He will remain the Blade of Frontiers in act 3. That is what happened to me at least.
So...I rather recommend using a mod than messing up your game like this. Check out the Wyll's Mirror, which only makes him look still human even while being a devil. Or if you like the horns, Wyll's devil Form Mod (makes him more look like a tiefling) may be the right thing for you for example. ;)
Simpler method, kill wyll (not with tav) before long resting, revive with withers. Steal back your gold. Once mizora is captured at moonrise you no longer have to do this and wyll has no horns.
It can be way easier just kill wyll after having recruited karlach then revive him in act 2
Raph also spawns in the underdark selune temple outpost . It threw me off the first time I encountered it because i was trying to avoid his ass lol
if you avoid him whole act 1, he'll be at your camp anyway :( the dudes a stalker
There is easier way without killing Mizora. You just recruit Karlach right before going to Mountain Pass while killing Will and letting Withers keep him. Go straight to act 2 and then come back to finish mountain pass. Act 3 Mizora and Will quests works as usual.
You just skip the punishment scene then? And keep the pod scene in the Moonrise Towers and all scenes in A3?
Bro just slept on Infernal Rapier for that, not worth it@@Anastassoulis
I used your workaround to have the robe and Karlach. But... At the party with tieflings though, Wyll was sad he killed Karlach and Karlach was acting like in the "Wyll is so cool, he beleived me and told Mizora to GTFO". Then I moved to a different playthrough and returned to this one after several updates. Wyll had horns and the game proceeded as usual after siding with Karlach.
It's easier to simply use Minthara's (or maybe any?) lute to call the drider, kill him and the cultists and free the pixie. She may be a little nasty, bo her blessing is way more useful than a lantern.
Also, while Wyll looks human everyone act like he looks like a devil when we used the old method!!! It was funny people were surprised and asking him what happened to him whne he still looks human.
You may be able to enter turn based combat and kill Mizora before she can heal herself, especially if you have the no party limit mod. That's how I killed the dryder without initiating a battle.
Mizora does not "heal herself" like other characters may. She has the Zariel's Protection condition, which makes her disappear to the hells as soon as anyone attacks her and then return after one minute at full HP. Turn based mode does not help. Larger party sizes don't help. You'd have to deal more than enough damage to kill her in one stroke to have any hope.
@@magister343 did u not watch the video my nigga? She was literally healing herself
if you're going to use mods, just use a mod to remove wyll's horns (and get the robe).. much easier than maybe fucking up the questline
I killed Wyllmin act1 and picked his body up and recruited Karlach. I’m now in act2 and haven’t seen Mizora. My plan is to make it to act 3, revive Wyll and if I’m lucky, no Mizora, and I can finish RescueDuke Ravengard.
I thought you have to revive the companions on the same day they die? Is this only if you’ve asked Withers to hold onto their soul?
Rapheal also spawns in the underdark, that's the first place I seen him.
Nice! Good find, as always!
Oh, interesting! I wonder if this can work if you're playing as Karlach main, or if you have to be someone not involved in the mess to not trigger cut scenes.
In this method, Was she in the Mindflayer incubation pod in the Illithid colony after the First Kethereic Fight?
Raphael can also spawn in the Selune outpost in the underdark, he showed up for me there in my Astarion origin run
Wyll horns looks really cool, plus we see in act 2 than killing Mizora while wyll is still under a contract with her kills Wyll. So it kinda break immersion.
But Gg for your finding, as the gnomes would say « gunpowder solves everything »
You actually don't need to hack the Kar'niss fight skip. If you go with the harpers, they will wait for your signal to attack. Just don't signal to attack and follow your original steps.
What about ACT3 Wyll's questline? RIP Duke Ravengard?
What about it? You can still save his father from the Iron Throne.
If you go there before doing mizoras deal (accepted or rejected), he will be dead in his cell. He is also dead there if Wyll is not in the party.
Her ashes teleport to the spot on the bridge where she would normally give Wyll's mission, but they aren't very communicative. Wyll can't save his father if you do this: the duke will show up dead in his cell (Wyll has lines expressing confusion as to why they would bother to put his dead body in a jail cell). You also can't get Wyll's rapier: Mizora's pod will just be broken and empty. Wyll still acts as though he's been given the mission to rescue Mizora in Act 2, even though she's dead.
@@davidwagner3710not entirely true. I always leave will behind when doing the underwater prison because he is annoying and the quest has always completed properly. Duke Ravenguard back in power and Will will be freed from his contract.
@zeroenna8554 I meant not a companion. Ala, you raided the Grove and he left
Ive had Raphael spawn in the Selunite outpost before as well (i was trying to avoid him to see if he would spawn in camp)
Raphael can also spawn in the Selunite temple in the Underdark.
So, while it is still possible to get a hornless wyll and karlach, it is not possible anymore to get hornless wyll, karlach and that sweet red robe?
I did this method but had to do quite a few do overs because it kept spawning combat between camp members and they ended up slaughtering Scratch. Poor thing can't get revived but you can try to knock him out before he gets whacked and you can hopefully finish combat before anyone tries to do the final blow.
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Worth noting that if you do this, the only opportunity for Duke Ravengard's longsword is in the throne room. You _can_ get it from him without setting Gortash off, but it's tricky (fog / invisibility / command: drop, and a good bit of luck)
you can just command drop him in camp
Without Mizora's offer to Wyll - accepted or denied -, the Duke is always dead in prison, no sword on his corpse.
I once had Rahfel spawn to me right in the middle of the Grove.
I played a long time ago, but I remember Raphael spawned to me I'm the underground, after kill a mother spider boss, inside one temple that big statues shot laser in the entrance. So it is a 5th place for its spawn
Nice loophole, thanks for working on this but if this doesn't change anything in the story then I'd rather just use a mod to hide his horns.
So you cant get the robe and karlach anymore, correct?
I got hornless Wyll with my 1st try. I played with friend coop and i got Karlah in control, while he gets Wyll. Cutscene when he is transform into demon didnt triger cos game didnt see them both in same party...
I've done a fair few playthroughs but I never saw Mizora at the front gate of Moonrise Towers. Why would she appear there I wonder.
To give you the quest to save Zariel's asset. But that only happens if you get to moonrise without long-resting in act 2.
If you investigate kagha and finish that quest first should prevent the grove being sealed.
I went through most of Act 1, topside (without killing anyone in goblin camp, or investigating Kagha) without the Grove being cut off before my first playthrough got corrupted and I had to start a new character. I had thought the goblin camp would be super hard with all those goblins, so I procrastinated. By the time I killed the goblin leaders and freed Halsin, my party was overpowered. I had heard about the Tiefling party, and I honestly thought that it was supposed to be towards the end of Act 1.
Is it possible to save Arabella's parents?
I read "Homeless Wyll" and was confused.
Indeed, he is x)
@@alyonamironova7290 Adventurers are at home on the road, they would say.
Forget about the horns
The truly amazing thing about this is that you get to finally kill Mizora 😂
The best way is to kill wyll after recruiting karlach and then once your either in the underdark or mountainpass revive him
Wow, that's quite a few steps. I'm going to have to watch this later
I love how people have, at several points, found loopholes in Mizora's bullshit.
I tried this, but Scratch turns hostile when I kill her and Wyll kills him... wtf!
This isn't some secret interaction, it's just looking for glitches that will break your game. The video is more useful for Larian than for players.
I don't know if you did this deliberately but at this speed when they talk I swear they sound like south park lol
They speed up the dialogue of the kid characters in South Park I'm pretty sure
@@stalwart56k I don't know if my ears are just old or what. But I swear he hit the exact speed for their voices lol
@@robertstone9342 Our brain likes to find patterns and has a bias for familiar things, this is similar (not exact) to why we see faces or shapes in static or shadows. (Most people see human shapes in shadows, my brain auto-completes cats that aren't real lol)
Totally normal, and probably just means you at one point were very familiar with SP, but having watched a bit of SP without being an actual fan (my brother liked it) I'd say it's just coincidence and brain-autocomplete. Still, if you get a kick out of it, then have at 'er hoss. Picture the whole game in SP universe that's kinda fun, haha ;)
i wanna comment that Raphael spawns in the underdark too
This looks like a ton of work 😳 not sure if hornless Wyll is worth it...
Kinda feel bad for Karliss in this game.
This is a great way of getting rid pf her as i hated her personally but i wouldnt recommended it as the tiffling leave after you go into act 2 and then you get no party celebrations so i wouldnt recommended it if you need to talk to the tifflings at all after saving halsin
Oh, so Mizora doesn't have to stay exclusively on my post-canon hit list (this list includes Zariel, the Dead 3, Shar, Vlaakith and Mystra)
It's basically impossible to kill a greater deity like Shar or Mystra unless you're a god yourself. Otherwise Shar would be already dead roughly eleventy bajillion times over.
why would you kill the best girl in the game ;_;
I'm replaying 1:18 at 2x speed.
Is there any drawbacks to this? like him losing his father cuz she knows where and how to get him out...i feel like this will permanantly bug out his questline unless she reappears in act 2
Raphael also spawns in the selunite outpost in the underdark
she doesnt spawn at the entrance of moonrise, she is down below trapped.
also, she shows up randomly in camp, not at moonrise towers.
i am taking this entire "guide" with the biggest grain of salt
Rafael also can spawn on the way to Sirens.
PSA: DO NOT KILL MIZORA!
Her cut scene where she transforms Wyll won’t trigger if you simply kill him before going to the monastery, but make sure you clear up all of act one first. You can either wait to pick up karlach until you’re headed there, or count your long rest. There are two things that will take priority over Mizora: trifling party after saving the grove, and your first visit from your guardian (second visit does not take priority so if you want that cutscene you need to recruit karlach after it.) when will revives after Mizora shows up in your camp, there is a chance his camp clothes and armor will be swapped, but you can easily fix this. You can adjust this as a visual setting on their character sheet. Keeping Mizora alive allows everything else in the game to function properly. Bonus tip; if you teleport back to the main area of act one after clearing the crèche (you have to specifically be inside the crèche for this to work every time) you can teleport back to the grymforge and go up the lift to avoid long resting and keep the morning glory and bless buffs from the dawn crest and your guardian.
I'd rather keep Mizora alive to get the cambion in Act 2, but still hats off for finding a way to not turn Wyl into a Devil
1 exp...
Honestly, if i have to go through all this just to get hornless Wyll, then sorry Karlach. Looks like Tavs gonna be the only tiefling in the camp 🤷🏻
What the hell...? I'd MUCH rather have Karlach in my camp than Will. Dude's annoying AF.
@@arekpetrosian4965 true, and useless also x) No help during playthrough and one of the hardest quest with his father and contract. Also loves getting damage from anything, bruh.
@@alyonamironova7290 Glad I'm not the only who sees how useless and annoying he is. LOL
@@arekpetrosian4965
He mainly just annoyed me with his comments about being a devil.
I play mostly Tiefling… and I’m like… wow… okay Wyll… XD He low key a bit racist to Teiflings. Haha.
I just keep him at camp basically, I might bring him for his story stuff but otherwise I keep him at camp.
@@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist I've done playthroughs where I play Warlock, which means I don't need him, and other times I just find him too self-righteous and self-pitying. Like...dude...YOU made a deal with an actual demon. What did you think was going to happen? And yeah...he's more than a touch racist. One time, he died during a fight, and I was like..."Yeah, not worth the scroll to rez him", and left him dead. LOL
don't believe her lies 💀
Interesting, but I prefer the Rapier from Act 2 😂
I would never kill Mizomommy tho... 😩
Karlach on the other hand kek
I can smell you through the screen
Kind of interesting since I'm pretty sure, in the story anyway, you shouldn't be able to kill Mizora there at all.
(spoilers below)
At that time I'm pretty sure she should be trapped by the Cult and only communicating with you by a projection.
It sucks that Larian made it so you have no choice but to break the story sequencing to do this.
? You have a choice, either go for horns or not. Why is it in a game that is about making choices people get so fucking weird about making choices. This isn’t fallout,
@@zacharynyberg7007because once you’ve played the game enough it’s not about the story anymore? And exploits are fun. It’s such an involved process that hardly anyone is going to do, so why does Larian feel the need to “fix” it?
@@bajablastman68501 Maybe because it causes the game issues later that players then report as bugs. I could be wrong, but?
@@zacharynyberg7007 Spot on 100% right
So many cannot handle making a moral or value judgment.
"I wanna do thiiis...but there are cOnSeQuEnCeS ooh noo.."
Life's tough. Get a helmet.
And why anyone would like to broke the game and the history doing this steps? Btw, annoying steps just to make your game broken and the history, you are doing this only to ho have bad things and 0 benefits
So weird and unpleasant seeing a default black Wyll...