Jim Cornette Reviews Wardlow vs Jake Hagar In An MMA Fight On AEW Dynamite
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2021
- From Episode 386 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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"It's hard to fuck up an MMA match in wrestling when one of the participants is an MMA fighter...but they managed" 😂🤣
He's been doing it for just a few years even, he's not Ken Shamrock. How did they expect Hager to lead this?
It’s hard to make an mma match look good.
@@Pogo113 Some AEW fans will tell you that Hager is actually pretty good now that he’s left WWE. There’s a reason they stopped pushing him over there
@@TomClacy5871 I've watched him fight. He's not that great. Lashley, lesnar , shayna, Ronda, even though I hate him, riddle are all better fighters than Hager.
@@Pogo113 not to mention that he's never even been truly tested in MMA to begin with. All he's done so far was beat up 🍅 🥫 s.
You wanna present it as an MMA fight and one guy does a hurricanrana 😂😂
Well I mean it is a legal and not an unseen thing in MMA
@@nman1 who has done a hurricanrana in a MMA fight before?
@@MVP7689 I know in one of khabib's matched it was attempted to try to reverse his bodyslam. I can't remember which match it was, but I know khabib implements some wrestling in ufc.
Try playing Weekend Warriors and Wrestling Empire by Mdickie
@@nman1 Bodyslam lol my friend you dont know what your watching.
“At least they did something different” is wrestling fan code for “at least they gave us chicken shit this time instead of pig shit”
every week there's blood every where on the show. But, in an MMA fight not a scratch on any one within 3 miles.
You spelled BULL wrong
EXACTLY! I just went off on an AEW about this.
@@FrankTentertainment good observation, I tuned out of the match once they started throwing those shitty worked punched.
😂🤣😂
They really had a fake MMA match in a real mma cage. They should’ve just had a wrestling match smh
They need cm punk in their next 'MMA' fight
Stance_ MXFIA unfortunately that won’t last very long like Cm Punk did in mma
Man they could of had Christine Cage versus Brian cage in a cage match
@@haider7866 he might actually win a fight 🤣
@Jeff Eiskina I agree..
Remember back in 2019 how AEW looked like a decent alternative
Now they are looking like a TNA rip off
They ain’t a TNA ripoff. They actually have some good uprising talent, only if they get booked right of course
@@lilgenx8361 exactly. They have good talent (some, not all) but they can’t book worth a damn
Do not disrespect TNA like that
@@lilgenx8361 TNA also had good talent. It was the booking of that talent and their over reliance on old farts was what made them a joke. AEW ARE MORE LIKE A GLORIFIED BACKYARD FED AT THIS POINT
@@scottbreon9448 don't forget Bischoff, Hogan, and Shitstain convincing Dixie and the network to move Impact against Raw.
Jake Hager, a former WWE World champion,Legit MMA fighter , taking huracanranas in a “cage fight” on a wrestling program. You can’t make this shit up.
Ok "legit" is really stretching it. Did you see that footage of that one guy he fought? He wasn't just a tomato can, he was the King and Lord of all cans. These are Bellator victories against cans, not a UFC fight against contenders.
@@MattAlbie nobody is saying he beat Fedor, but at least he actually fought someone for real. And not at some outlaw mudshow MMA event.
@@natebaxter9551 That's what I'm saying. Bellator isn't far from outlaw mudshow when it comes to MMA. They have zero drug testing. They feed guys like Hager who KIND OF have a name fat cans. Pretty outlaw indy mudshow to me
@@MattAlbie you gotta work with what you got. They have some actual names, but they aren't getting the hot prospects. And testing for roids is overrated.
@@natebaxter9551 Testing for roids is what makes you legit, and not the indie outlaw mudshow MMA brand people don't take that seriously.
I bet Scott Coker the CEO of Bellator MMA is shaking his head after watching that disaster.
"Scott Coker" sounds like Tony Khan's ring name
Scott better give Hager an absolute can to bounce back from this. I mean, if Hager loses his next MMA fight, this will be the thing to point and laugh at after the fact.
Coker put on Kimbo Slice vs Dada 5000, who nearly died during the fight, on the same card as a 50 year old royve tracie vs a 50 year old shamrock. He was probably trying to figure out how to get this on his show.
@@jules8876 It's not like Hager is a huge name in MMA. If anything he will probably find someone to knock him out.
@@joesmoe8841 I am well aware of that. He hasn't fought anyone major league yet.
Made it to the 2 on 1 match then my DVR froze. You know a show is bad when your DVR refuses to play it back.
LMFAO 😅🤣😅🤣
Hahahahaha!
I've seen low budget high school film projects with more realistic looking fights than that.
To be fair they had a real mma cage.
@Aaron Lassiter antonio inoki could of told you that. A match like this had to be either 🥊🥋like a 3 round k-1 fight boxing style or pure grappling.
But hey even real ufc fights can be boring ...
@@SAM-ru4vx what does having a cage have to do with the shitty worked fight itself?
I've directed low budget high school film projects with better fights.
@@SAM-ru4vx SHUT up AEW bot
This analysis is PERFECT. Wrestling fan from way back. Became MMA fan with UFC 1. First thing I ever saw with ECW was the Taz/ Paul Varlens "MMA" fight. Did not work then, has never worked, because it simply can't be done. One of the worst things they did was show clips Of Hager in a real MMA fight. So you see a REAL fight as he's on the way to the ring, and then this match looked nothing at all like the clips they played coming to the ring. You get this side by side comparisson, and one could easily tell that this was not a real fight. Perfect anaylsis Mr. Cornette!!!
The only way I see a worked MMA match ending is in submission. I guess if one of them could act well enough and if both of them had iron chins, then they could gimmick a decent looking KO, but there’s too much room for error. It’s hard to make it look convincing, for sure.
@@a-damthemansixtynan4463 And the REAL punching is OUT. Wardlow is a prime candidate to star in movies in the future. Hollywood does NOT want a scared up face. When you think of the millions and millions of (potential) dollars he would be losing by getting his face messed up, it would be a TERRIBLE business decision for him to enter into a match of ANY kind, PPV or a simple TV match, and risk that. I personally would not risk it, I don't blame him. But given this, the match is DOOMED to fail.
Sakuraba has put on many great matches in MMA style. Heck the whole UWFi and Kingdoms promotions had alot of great shoot/MMA style matches.
@@coachmikesfilmroom3111 Let's not forget that in Japan, MMA was born on people wanting to take Pro Wrestling into a more "realistic" style, after all! With UWFi, PWFG, Pancrase (Before they started doing things legit), and Fighting Network RINGS! Heck, the Shamrock brothers Ken and Frank even came out of that style anyways, after all.
This match was one of the worst things I've ever seen. The presentation got me interested at first but as soon as they started moving, I burst out laughing at how dumb it looked lol
I completely agree and I said that in another person’s CZcams video and some AEW mark defended this shit and said it was awesome and better than raw underground totally disregarding NXTs fight pit which is way better than this.
@@masonshepherd5260 NXT’s fight pit makes this abomination look like a Chuckie Cheese Ball Pit
They get an B+ for presentation Ref Aubry looked outta place, Since it was no pin fall & no judges they should’ve spring for an actual MMA ref
@@G_Six Yeah, that got on my nerves too. I was like, "Wtf is Aubrey there?"
Oh fuck I saw a clip of the bullshit huricana on Twitter and lmfao. Hope to god non aew fans no mma fighters would never do that in a fucking mma fight. They would get rampage jackson powerbombed.
Why would you ever book an MMA-style match on a Pro Wrestling card? Because it's 'real'? What does that say about everything else on the card?
Because one is an MMA fighter. But you know, there are ways to book that without implying the rest of the cards is fake and Dynamite doesn't have that kind of booker.
Like if everyone, or every other person on the card is an MMA fighter or legitimately accomplished in some martial tradition, be it amateur wrestling, catch wrestling, Brazilian Juijitsu, Muy Thai, armed forces self defense, Valtudo, judo, police holds, etc., and they all make an effort to show it, then you can have a Unified MMA rules match on the card without everyone looking fake. A bunch of real fighters really fighting each other in a different setting that they are all used to with different rules. One tries to enforce what something else for a little while.
Maybe you present someone else as an untrained but experienced brawler, a bouncer, bar fighter, convicted criminal, tough man contest winner or what not. A Jay Briscoe "Imma smoke this Brutal Bob then I'm gonna beat your ass" type, then it could work. He could even lose, make a good showing for himself but lose. Then try again without the unified MMA rules.
Not even saying I could book it right, but I've booked enough to at least know there are tools that make it possible. I can't install or remove an engine from a car either, but I've worked on cars enough to know there are tools for it. After two years with Arn and Tully teaching him Khan should have booked enough to know better, the possibilities and his limitations, but I guess not. I don't get it.
Didnt realsie Dean Malenko was 60 or had Parkinson's. Hope he's doing well, thought the bit between him and Jericho they did on AEW referencing their WCW skit was a nice throw back
Everything's a throwback in aew they do nothing original.
@Kwame brown and Jim cornette burner account Yeah, you notice JR's out there saying the same shit he did all those years for Vince like "running like a scalded dog" & "he's an sob" & etc.
@@skyblaze1134 & that's the problem with the business as it currently is, & that's between $ mark Khan's promotion & Vince's, & that's that there's nothing original anymore & here's the saddest part of the whole thing, Vince spends $ on a "creative team" & they haven't created shit over in McMahonland & with Khan, instead of him doing the smart thing & hand off the booking duties to Arn or Tully, no instead he wants to keep booking this awful shit himself & both companies wonder why neither 1 is doing great when it comes to tv ratings every week.
@Kwame brown and Jim cornette burner account Yeah, but once again, it just shows 1 more time what Corny always points out, & that's that nothing's original anymore & more importantly EVERYTHING in both companies both Khan's & Vince's look like either a bad spoof on the business or a really bad episode of SNL or a bad comedy movie
@Kwame brown and Jim cornette burner account & you know the sad thing is because of how bad the business currently is, there's LESS PEOPLE WANTING TO COME INTO THE BUSINESS & that's bad as far as the overall future of the business is concerned.
Saturday night at 8pm hasn't been a prime time slot in more than 35 years, Jim. Come on.
That hurricanra spot was so unnecessary and shows nobody in aew can do anything seriously. And this should've been saved for actual mama fighters not a body guy who obviously can't throw a punch.
This match was so awful I just stopped caring. Instead of watching AEW I took a 30 minute round trip at night for Chicken and Waffles. Bubbys was worth it.
Absolutely 💯👍🏼
I unfortunately have never had chicken and waffles but that sounds awesome
@@kylethompson2109 You should check out Roscoes chicken and waffles
@@gator9339 I might just do that. Thanks man
Absolutely awful idea and execution. The Samoa Joe Kurt angle match years ago on TNA was the way to execute something like this.
Well Kurt’s the best ever and Joe is an all timer
Fight Pit was great.
I noticed Dean shaking when he did that angle with Jericho and was hoping it was not anything serious and unfortunately they confirmed he has Parkinson's. Aside from that bad news the main take-away from this match is that Tony Khan cannot play anything straight and will gimmick a gimmick because he thinks it is cool. Aside from the obvious issue of making both guys look weak and Hager in particular by letting Wardlow get in an much offense as he did with a supposed MMA star, that Hurricanrana just illustrated how much of a fetish AEW has for crazy acrobat spots even when they are totally out of place.
@Lujack Shaw The difference there is Zack was a young healthy man (besides missing a leg) and Dean is in his 60s with a serious neurodegenerative disease - hardly a fair comparison if you ask me…
@Lujack Shaw You read too much into what I said, never bought up the heat spot with MJF.
I flipped over to see Wardlow and Hager in a cage and then said, “Nope,” and flipped back.
Good thing I wake up from a nap after aew was done
Lol
Rather watch a bra and panties "match"
Yep. At least there's tits.
Yeah after I watched the “mma fight” I tuned out the rest of the show lol. It was draining.
I turned it off as soon as I saw Hager prepping up lol
Their trying to present Hager as a top level MMA fighter like lesnar 🤣🤣🤣. He's not even on the level of riddle and I hate riddle but it's true.
That one time when CM Punk had a more legitimate MMA fight than someone else
With two experienced shooters, you could make this kind of match looks legit, look at Chiampa vs. Thatcher in the Fight Pit. Doing a worked shoot fight should be simple, you just need the right people. These were the wrong people.
Ciampa and thatcher are not real fighters 🤣🤣. They don't have any official records or fights under their belt. Their just guys who went to a few mma classes and think they're badass 🤣.
@@SS-tg8lf Well that says a lot considering they put on a more convincing MMA-style fight than Hagar could
Is literally everyone in aew apart of a faction now? Jesus it’s just ridiculous now
Have a friend ask me that since after we watched a few episode, almost every match has some random guy in a faction. It's just ridiculous at this point like you said. Even harder to know who these people are because most of them don't even compete in a ring for months or do anything.
Pretty much, it would be decent if most of these factions were like the Horsemen or the Heenan Family for example, instead we have a bunch of "Los Boriquas"
They want to be like NJPW so fucking bad with these fucking factions!!
Yeah and lately they are looking like complete gay folks now, especially with all the spray shit!, What is with all that now?
Kinda reminds me of RAW’s 1997 gang wars
As an almost lifelong martial artist and MMA fan, this was the worst piece of trash I've ever seen... Why did they even try this? TNA proved it long ago that you cannot fake mma fights. -.-
See I disagree. Sure the match was sloppy but I think wrestling has become such an over exposed joke that incorporating mma style aspects could help it. Maybe not in a cage but adding certain elements to legitimize it, cause otherwise wrestling today is taken as seriously as Disney on Ice. I recommend watching Josh Barnett's Bloodsport as a good example of how it can be done right.
I present to you, the Brawl for All.
@@Tactical_Hotdog At least those guys were shooting. It was horrible but at least they tried.
@@JGD185 I haven't seen Josh's stuff but when I want MMA, I watch MMA. When I want wrestling, I TRY to watch wrestling. Too bad that wrestling doesn't even exist anymore.
This segment was disrespectful to MMA fighters, I want to see real fighters react to this match
Bryan you always say this is the worst episode of dynamite🤣
This managed to insult both MMA and Wrestling. Making wrestling look even more fake while dragging legitimate MMA down into its grave.
What’s even more baffling than the actual fight is people on Twitter we’re fucking loving it!!! AEW has been an embarrassment to the business since it started. Tony Khan eats up Vince’s sloppy seconds. And don’t think for a second we forgot the little queef of an explosion in that Omega match.
Remember when they said AEW was going to make Hager a star? 😂
That's a horrible idea by itself, Hagar has been pro wrestling for years and is still so meh.
Wardlow looks like a giant in AEW. He’s 6’2”. I don’t remember ever seeing Stone Cold on Raw and saying “wow, he’s gigantic”.
6'2? I thought he was 6'4 at the least or 6'7 at most. He looked like he was the height of Sheamus or Randy Orton... 6'2? That's the same height as CM Punk. And he was a Light Heavyweight...
I like AEW but jeez the guys there are short...
Brian is right TV has gone down the drain. Most days I don’t even turn my television on. It’s all bullshit
This may become the “Brawl for all 2.0” for sure.
Naw. Brawl for all was a big tournament, that all sucked. Why it's so memorable, more like when they brought dan Severn in to do a lions den match that did nothing and went no were. Lot of build up no follow threw
@@Yugioh420 nah this will be forgotten in a week
@@kidneystonermusic that was kind of why I compared to to dan Severn and the lion den match, very few remember it or what it was supposed it be compared to what it ended up being
Not even close dude.
I really fugured they would agree before the "fight" to not hold back on the punches, since they're both big guys.
Im not saying risking knocking each other out, or getting a concussion, but at least make enough contact, with enough force, to make it look somewhat real.
love you Jim but... no one my age is watching TV 8pm on Saturday... lots of 50+ but im out living life like most 18-35 year olds.. wednesday is the best time slot for AEW
Most people are not watching t.v either
Jim is a old head 🗣️
Or were out working lol.
I'll be honest, this is what finally broke me when it came to All Petite Wrestling. I've gave them sooooo many chances and they've fucked up. I had AEW recorded and after this shitshow, I finally stopped recording it for good.
You gone be right back watching and commenting next week GTFOH
@@altonjames5673 hes not gone. He commented 3 days ago.
The only way I could see this concept working(and every time I've seen it, it has failed) is if it is straight grappling/bjj. You can't throw 'working' punches kicks and knees. It doesn't pass the eye test.
I mean, Japan has tried it and it was pretty successful, with the UWFi, Kingdoms, Fighting Network RINGS (Before 1995). Heck, there's even a promotion currently that still goes for the worked mma/wrestling hybrid as of late! (GLEAT. Yes, that is how it's actually spelled).
🌽y- *"They're trading like 2 drunks in a waiting-pool."*
The superman punch off the cage fence was cool and Wardlow's grappling skills are legit.
Not too shabby
Rusev and Swagger can renew their rivalry in AEW.
Bruh you think I'm watching AEW on a Saturday night? Lol
"Jake Hagar is an MMA fighter"
Sure Jim, sure.
Well he has fought in Bellator and has NCAA wrestling credentials those things definitely qualify him to tell people he's an MMA fighter
He's undefeated in Bellator. Yea its lesser competition but his last fight was against a pretty tough guy who tested him
@@theghostoflarrysteve3441
"NCAA wrestling credentials"
"MMA"
@@runawayuniverse Sounds about White
I am so glad I have Jim and Brian to watch this shit for me. I give Dynamite the RAW treatment now. I watch it through Twitter and CZcams clips. When I saw AEW was gonna have a RAW Underground match I turned it off. Didn't comeback. Saw some clips of the show on Twitter and I saw I didn't miss anything good.
Was this match worse than the Raw Underground fights?
Not that bad.
Hager is a bad mma fighter, dude barely beating tomato cans in Bellator, Riddle would beat him up
Lashley MMA was more dominating
@Kemp shawn based on his matches in Bellator I would lean Nakamura
Yeah but Riddle actually has wins in a proper promotion like UFC. Hager only has wins (via low blow) in the AEW of MMA. Riddle and Brock could make a match like this work.
@Kemp shawn Lmao Nakamura is one of the worst wrestlers ever
@@tonyslicer7399 Bobby only fought in areas with very 'loose' drug testing though
The cameramen tried to save the fight by switching to angles were you couldn't see the point the fists were to make contact, but even then, it was painfully obvious.
Just imagine if Wwe and Fox decide to brings back The Lion Den?......probably be renamed after Roman Reigns.🤔
Brock and WALTER would make this work but these two goofs didn't.
Walter could have an mma fight with a broom and it would have been better
Wardlow ain’t that bad...Hager sucks tho
Walter has spent his career beating up 140lb indie guys.
I would love love to see him try his daft chopping with Lesnar.
Tony Khan: I think Wardlow should do a hurricanrana. Yeah! I was playing with my AEW figures last night and....
The Pinnacle never gets any heat. What a fued.
Just reading that Wardlow has trained in boxing and jiu-jitsu. They shoulda let it be a shoot.
Inner Circle embarrasses The Pinnacle week in and week out, AEW has buried MJF and The Pinnacle with this feud.
I was excited beyond belief for this match. Seeing an MMA match on pro wrestling entertainment sounded awesome. But the preview videos from Hagers past matches had more fighting and excitement than what we got on the show
"shit encrusted turd"
I took a second on that one, that's just shit lol
Yes, but different textures.
I saw someone saying how this dumpster fire was fresh and exciting and then proceed to say how trash the Reigns vs Mysterio match was...
Nxt's Fight Pit put this to shame.
If this show was taped, why not tape the MMA fight separately to make it look good.
"...and then...the bell rang."
Hager trained in the art of professional Wrestling for over a decade but still sucks. He sucks at MMA to.
@@joe2k20 Nice joke
@UC4HHeAsJhj7ak3sEAOmKlnQ Bad joke
This is what you get when you can't come up with enough stuff to fill a 2 hour weekly show. We are probably right around the corner of them putting on an arm wrestling contest.
This is again a long awaited segment
I have a friend who was working night shift the night this episode of AEW aired in a restaurant with a bar inside it. They had AEW on either because they were just flipping channels and thought the NBA would be on at 10 but didn't know AEW has that time slot or they just were flipping channels to any sport event and just left it there until another game started either for hockey or basketball. He tells me he notices this MMA fight and wonders wtf this show is doing. His manager sees this fight and wonders why they even have this on since she didn't notice it was AEW. Then apparently one or two customers are asking why this bootleg UFC is on and the manager ends up changing it to apparently some Nascar truck race event.
I asked myself after seeing part of this match on CZcams on their channel if they saw the Brawl for All at all to see why this wouldn't work or to even maybe try to make it work.
Nah, I can watch Takada x Albright matches every day, UWFi was very good for the "MMA"/Shoot Style but this thing I will never watch again.
I've been watching wrestling for 21+ years and Jim's observation matched mine almost verbatim
Im a huge mma fan and this was an insult to mma. Bellator should cut Hager for this.
Great art by Travis again.
Funny thing about Hagar(Swagger) when you think about it, his best matches was only with veterans. Christian, Rey Mysterio, John Cena on his Raw debut etc. He still needs guidance in the wrestling business.
Big show called omega twinkle toes n called QT Mar Shall. THEY ARE LISTENING
Reminds me when Ken Shamrock v Owen Hart in the octagon in 96 or 97
When Wardlow enters Daily's Place you can hear a rat piss on cotton.
lmao that's an awesome saying
Aew is good at killing off any chance of anyone getting over .
Didn't TNA try to incorporate a UFC style match type, even had a championship? It sounds good on paper, but unless you have the personnel to pull it off and use it sparingly it could work.
Love the setup, the fight itself felt fake and heavily scripted, and I don’t even watch MMA/UFC.
What set up?
@@peterdickinson4599 the MMA ring and the wrestlers’ introductions.
@@adrieltheanimesmashbros.5133 Yes. Fair enough. That was well done. I was thinking you meant build-up. I thought, “What’s he talking about? This was announced last week and now it’s happening. There has been no build-up”. My bad.
@@peterdickinson4599 nah the story was rush as heck, it makes the Roman Reigns and Cesaro storyline look like it took years in the making by comparison.
Thatcher vs Riddle was better
Stupid boring jobber match cornette not like that too
@@SanAchmds02 he liked that and Thatcher vs Ciampa one also
Oh I’ve been waiting for this!
Pro Wrestlers need to stop trying to chase that mma legitimacy. It can’t be faked. It just looked fake
Good point even the old school shooters who you could tell could do MMA never really tried to fight a full MMA style because they knew you couldn't fake it.
@@theghostoflarrysteve3441 90% of pro wrestlers aren’t legit but they get offended when people say that. They want to be seen as legitimate fighters but they ain’t. Stuff like this just exposes them as actors
Brawl for all 2.0
Not even because this wasn’t even a legit shoot, this whole ordeal was just downright embarrassing
Least they hit for real in first one lol
I've been waiting for this!
This match was an insult to MMA.
Saturday night at 8:00. The All in the Family time slot, half a century ago.
Nothing involving jack swagger will ever interest me
The way brian says ‘i fell asleep’ 😂
Normally I skip these clips of Jim talking shit about AEW but they really deserve all the ire. That fake MMA fight was the worst executed match yet.
I''m intrigued by "competitive" or sports based wrestling, and MMA/shoot hybrids...but this ain't the way to do it.
I was expecting the MMA cage to be electrified
Mmm nobody tell Jim hagger is a two time wwe world champion
It was stupid at the time but the Swagger soaring eagle was fantastic and needs to come back somehow
I was looking forward to this review the most.
Been waiting to hear this...
Jake hagar was only a slight draw when he was with cesaro with the " we the people " character
Dutch mantel was hilarious as his manager
This was fucking bad. I was so pumped they made it seem like it was going to be real until punches were thrown
Imagine going from a Hell In A Cell Match on Fox to a Worked MMA Fight on TNT.
I like how Excalibur was trying to sell tf out of this match and JR was like uhhh
The ending wasnt a rip off of Bret Hart
Wardlow flipped him off while passing,
If anything, Its a CLEAR AS HELL RIP OFF of Undertaker vs. Brock Lesnar.
Lesnar flipped Taker off before passing out.
Theres never any originality in AEW,
Its always nods to things from WWE.🤦
It was a Lion's Den match 2.0 from the Attitude Era. Owen Hart vs Krn Shamrock. Difference being it was Ken Shamrock vs Owen Hart.
I find it hilarious that I'd rather watch Vince beat up Shamrock in a MMA match than anything Trust Fund Kid nd his nerdy friends is doing at gAyEW.
MJF saved the show by punching Malenko and the way JR said son of bitch 😂😂😂
JC tell us about the Blonde Bombers and the brawl in Memphis.
WORST fake strikes !!
Worse fake fight in the history of fake fights. As a mma fight it was embarrassing. As a wrestling match it was a disaster.
Jake lost his swagger (no pun intended) when he dropped the US patriot persona he had in WWE
As goofy as that character was you dont realize till later how much it protected him from being exposed as being an actual goof.
With all of Tony khan's resources the fact he didn't have someone like Gene lebell on speed dial to organize this match is sad! They could have made it cool, it's very hard but is possible
It was a RAW Underground outtake.
A wrestling MMA match only works with multiple excellent technical fighters like the owen hart vs ken shamrock lions den matches