*realistic* day in my life as a product manager at discord (yes, we actually work)
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
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hello my lovely chlommunity ~
ever see those “day in the life” tiktoks of people who got to take 5 naps, fold laundry, and run errands while they enjoy the luxury of working from home? cause, it must be niiiiiceee, i’m tryna be like you, my boy. idk what companies they be working at, but that's not my life.
today, i wanted to share with y’all the bts of what a realistic (wfh) day in my life as a product manager at discord is really like. hope this gives you all an insightful perspective on the interactions and work that typically goes on in my day-to-day remote life (as well as my personal life).
i did work quite late on this day, but i want to assure you that it's because (1) we're launching a big product that i'm excited about and (2) i'm also just not good at not working haha. i've always overworked and im trying to take small steps towards healthy productivity. it's a huge mental block, so send me tips!!
on a side note, happy spring everyone! hope allergies szn isn’t too dreadful and for those of you on spring break, enjoy your time off! i wanna hear what everyone’s plans are in the comments below :-)
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0:00 - how i start my mornings
1:08 - meetings
2:40 - lunch
4:31 - back to work!
5:46 - organizing my thoughts and daily intentions
7:53 - wrapping up my work day
8:19 - gym time~
9:24 - cooking dinner
10:37 - clean up and shower
11:10 - catching up on some last minute work D:
12:35 - chlo-sing thoughts
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Chlo you're the best! Thanks for making such awesome and informative/helpful content for us 🙏🙏💕💕
Such a great vlog! Can't believe you're working for Discord and still super active on your youtube/socials! Productive Queen 🤩
Thank you!! And man it definitely is a lot to be on top of and I’m not great at it tbh haha. I’m always trying to figure out how to make everything work sustainably!
Omg the cupholder hahahha. Also the paper tablet looks so cool!
Lol I know!! I was so embarrassed!! 😅😅 I’m sure some security guard was watching me haha
This video was great! Really love your editing style, it's so cute and fits your personality haha. Really interesting to see your work day :)
Probably your mentor tells you this but try and learn to delegate more of your work. It’s help you keep more sane hours! Especially as PM if you’re making all the wireframes then you’re not allowing the designer to take more control and rely on you (which eats up more of your time). It helps me more to focus on if what we’re building will be useful or not to a customer, so that the designer knows they aren’t designing something that won’t actually solve any customer problem!
Yes exactly. PMs tend to have scope creep in their work. Setting boundaries and delegating can help you focus on product outcomes rather than filling in for other functions.
remarkable is pretty UNremarkable, most features are slammed behind additional paywalls such as using onenote, google drive. If i'm paying 300$ for it, I would expect these to come in the most basic plan (they come in the 3rd tier most expensive plan). Pretty dissapointing.
You’re hardworking Chloe! Thanks for showing the real life as a product manager.
glad you enjoy this video!!
Ho...bro ??? Hoooooow!?????!!!!!
this is so calming to watch
glad you enjoy the vibes ~ ^_^ hope you enjoyed your stay!
this was super interesting :) thanks for the video!
oh my goodness - hi ali! super honored to have you here on the channel. appreciate you taking the time to comment and glad you enjoy the video!! 😊😊
Lol. Legit hustle. All I can say. You should also do a video when you have fire drills! :D lolol. Like if your team is waiting on a dependency from another team and they basically come back to you say you won't get it for another month/quarter lol. You suddenly find out your solution is no longer valid because architecture has shifted. Back to back meetings where you're trying to de-escalate a problem, etc. Fun times, war-stories from the trenches lololol.
Omg haha I would notttt have time to film a video if I have to put out fires!! Even on a day like this, I struggled finding time to film properly 😩😩 but those days do happen hehe
I would be interested to hear how you developed such a strong work ethic? You amaze me how hard you work even if it may require some late nights.
I love the new personal touch of adding bits of Chinese into the video! I'm also jealous that you can go to Mitsuwa. The nearest one for us is 6 hours away.
Haha yes wanted to add some more culture ~~ and wow 6 hrs so too far!! Actually 99 ranch market is 45 min away and I just don’t go. Too far for me haha
ive been looking into working at discord, so this kinda helps me to visualize what tto expect so thanks!
glad to hear! there are other discord videos too on my channel since days can vary so much!
Lol “cheese is expired” but puts it back. I love watching your videos!! I’m trying to get into product with absolutely no background in it at all so it’s good to know what I’m getting myself into !
lmao you right. i probably should've thrown it out. i guess i'll never throw it out now 🤷haha
Thanks for sharing this, Chloe ❤️
You're like so coooolll 😃
Omg - that is very realistic hahaha. Been through busy days like that also. Kudos to you for being able to Vlog on busy days! I will not have myself together to vlog my self if I am at that state haha.
Pro tip: Always have a cereal bar or protein bar with you. I have it right at my desk so on a busy day I just chew my protein cereal bar drink some milk and still work on a somewhat filled stomach. Never be hungry while you are working guys, it is not healthy.
Awesome video Chloe!
Glad you liked it!, Vert! :)
I can tell you put a lot of thought and effort into your videos - thanks for sharing your insights and keep it up!
Glad you like them!
Just discovered you! Your videos are so insightful!!
so glad you enjoy them!
This was really raw, and real and great. Try not to be to hard on yourself
aww thank you katarin. i am doing my best not to be so hard on myself!
Ah, it’s ok. I do the 10pm log on too, with a clear head and not feeling like I have to respond to something - I can respond to emails and finish things that require 100% undistracted attention.
i'm really trying not to, but i don't always finish my deliverables. things pile up if i push deliverables back too much :/
Thanks for posting Chloe. Aside from some of the specifics of your personal life/human/content creator stuff, the rest of this feels so familiar to an average day in my life as a PM.
I tend to work a very similar schedule with a full day of work, followed by some late night sessions. PMs just have so much to do, it is hard to fit it all in. I definitely straddle the line when it comes to maintaining a healthy schedule and feeling productive. It always helps me to see other PMs, who outwardly seem to really have everything together, struggle through their daily grind. It really helps me realize that I'm not alone with the struggle. I'll have to check out the remarkable tablet, it looks very helpful.
i know D: there's so much to do. i constantly feel behind but i think i just have to get used to that feeling and leverage my team more to weigh in on product strategy!
AHH CHLOE i loved this video
Oh you mean do a pomodoro work video on CZcams? Bc I already do that on twitch!
Discord is the most phenomenal thing when you work for a tech company. Especially makes my employer super comfortable with how many hours I work because he can see me always in a voice channel during work hours not muted and whenever he pops on, he knows I will hear him and respond, especially when I work from home. Being 9 to 5 on voice channel all of our teams are accessible and the screen sharing is way better than Zoom or any other garbage.
Very insightful, thanks for sharing!
thanks for watching! glad u enjoy it!
Chloe, as usual, LOVED your video! Can you let me know how your meeting with your manager usually goes? Do you put a presentation together each week? How long does it normally run for?
hiya!! so meeting with my manager always goes pretty well ~ he's incredible helpful and always comes into our meetings with the mindset of making sure i have all the support i need.
i dont put together a presentation each week, but i do prepare an agenda each week with productive talking points to help the team move forward faster!
@@chloeshih How do you go about determining if someone will be a good manager for you? What kinds of questions do you ask in the interview process?
My all time favourite inspiration in tech❤
Aww thanks girl 🥰🥰
Kinda chaotic but reassuring at the same time lol. I have days where I end up doing too many things and mess up my sleep schedule too. Just trying not to make it a daily habit. Loved the vlog! :)
i think i have somewhat of a chaotic, high-spirited energy lolll.
i def need to work on that sleep piece more. it is not looking good for eye bags in the morning!
inspiring video, thank you
I love your videos. I'm a Product Designer and I identify with your life
haha so glad you do!!
I am a new fan of you and have been binge watching your videos. Love Mitsuwa too.
omg yay! so glad you've been enjoying the videos!
Great video!
"during my least favorite time of the day... mornings" XD said in the most soothing/calm voice ever XD hehe
lmaooo I absolutely hate mornings hahah
I feel the "late night quick working session" turning into hours so much haha. Great upload Chloe!!
i knowww!! D: why it gotta be like that tho
What a ❤️ simp😄😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for sharing this. And I thought my days in tech as a linux admin are long sometimes. And they are, even without the weekends. And yes we are also watching anime when we eat dinner.
YES TO ANIME!! 100%%% :D
I feel this, though I work through lunch and then an hour or two later than my finishing time, skip the gym and keep tabs on my phone for messages as I settle down for the evening. Don't do this, it's not healthy.
How good is the OP2 to Ranking of Kings though?!
i know D: i'm trying to get better at it, but i honestly context switch way too much during the work day to get any deep work done. D: always working on it!
ALSO OP2 SOO GOOOOOOODDDDDDDD AAAAA
work. of. art.
I know this was not the point of the video but your hustle is inspiring!!
Aww thank you! I aspire to live a life of a couch potato though. Work hard today, potato tomorrow 🥔
@@chloeshih When that day comes you will have earned it
Chloe, if you can, please implement a way to make lists (i.e those bubbles for to do lists that you can check off). I would love that feature!
wait on the discord platform?
@@chloeshih yep!
I love your new hair!!! Also, what mic do you use?? It's so clear.
aww thank you!! and i'm working on a new beacons page, but it's in my 2nd tab here!! beacons.ai/colorsofchloe
Hi Chloe! I’ve been following your channel for about a year now loved your videos great content and also helped me pick up a few tips and tricks! Would you consider making a video about your workstation set-up?
ABSOLUTELY ARIEL!! i'm actually dyinnnngg to make a desk tour video but I have a couple of items that won't ship until later in the month or next month T___T i am super sad and probably should wait until i get those items. but yes it is on my more immediate list!!
Watching anime while having dinner, I do that too! hahah Also Ousama ranking and your videos what an amazing combo!
OUSAMA RANKING WAS SO GOOD OMG
@@chloeshih YES! I'm hoping for a second season!
Thank you for sharing a realistic day in your life. :)
As a video suggestion, do you think you could make a video for the people who graduated university but had a really rough start, which affected being stunted in career opportunities? If you like you can make a video like that! I was just hoping maybe you might have known people who were in similar situations and were able to get back to track in their life. I totally understand if this topic might not be possible to make for a video. :)
hi chikahoshi!! yes i'd love to do something like this. it's a great idea. i'll add that to my content list! appreciate the suggestion.
@@chloeshih Oh thank you so much!! :D
This is a great video! I’m interested in becoming a PM. How many hours a week do you work usually?
Haha so relatable. Except I rejoice at 9:30. It's when I go to bed at 2:30 and there's a 7:30 AM or 8AM meeting for me -_-
Found your channel and love it! Thanks for posting this video :) Can I ask which keyboard you use? Love the sounds~
i'm working on a new beacons page, but it's in my 2nd tab here!! beacons.ai/colorsofchloe
Chloe would you mind either linking or a video on all your desk gadgets, keyboard, microphone etc?
Ok but why is Chlo so cute when she gets frustrated haha
LOL thank u Jan ~~ ☺️☺️☺️
Thanks for sharing your day with us! Hopefully there are some chiller days at work/life where not so much happens and you get to enjoy some down time. Also Bokchoy careful with the deadlifts (my guess?) man the lower back pain turns you into gramps real quick lol
i knowww! there certainly are chiller days. but i'd say there's a couple of pretty focused days throughout the week to make meaningful progress at work.
bokchoy definitely got hurt from the deadlift D: it was so scary actually! he's gonna be out for the next month resting. :
Sick setup! Would be cool to see a tour of it. Aspiring PM here currently working in sales/account management. Do many people with my background transition in PM or is it rare? Great insightful vid too
omg! yes i am gonna do a desk tour video, but i have some new equipment coming in that won't be delivered until some time in may. gonna have to wait a bit for that!
i don't know of many sales/account mgmt people going into PM. the ones i know who did that were at salesforce since you really understand the types of clients that use the product.
but def choose an industry that you really understand!!
Good stuff as always. "Chlommunity" LOL. That Remarkable is gonna get purchased!....Tell him get a belt for deadlifts and have a form spotter until he gets it down!
haha yes chlommunity / chloworkers / unichlos!!
he def needs a belt for deadlifts now!
Does discord allow you to utilize your own personal PC for work? I've always experienced having a work laptop in tech that is provided by my company would love to get reimbursed to build my own :(
You usually have to sign permissions and security agreements but yeah, it's possible.
Chaotic as the ending of AoT 😂. I am now committed to being Eren Yeager of the workplace lol
LOL i'm glad you caught that part hahah.
*erennnnn yeaaggerrrrr!!!*
I just love everything about your videos! Aspiring to be a PM as well :))
Yay!! So glad you enjoy them marina!! Lmk what else you’d like to see ☺️
@@chloeshih I'd loooove to see more of your routine as PM, vlogs, PM tools, and about everything you create hahaha
Just found your channel, product manager here too. I feel like I’m watching my own life through your video. Exactly having the salmon salad now.
lmao yasss the salmon salad!! i love that stuff
Does your company allow fully remote or do you have to return for a hybrid schedule when it's safe again? You make me want to work for Discord because you work remote 😅
Shit. This is me as a mom. I don’t even work anymore since hubs is a resident doc and is never freaking home. And I never go to bed before 12. Unless he’s working nights because then our toddler won’t go to bed without a warm human body next to her. 🤦🏾♀️
I’m a scrum master hoping to become a PM next year love your channel
I like how you described Discord's meetings where you can see all the rooms and who is in them, but for work. I have been waiting patiently for my company to get Slack for huddle rooms, but Discord could work nicely.
I feel you on getting your schedule down. I ended up working with a professional coach to make sure I am prioritizing the things that bring me satisfaction and growth. Some of those goals included waking up early, staying connected with long distance friends, spending quality time with my wife, and staying in good shape. I went through some trial and error (and plenty of self learning), but I ended up with a pretty great system :). Good luck on that journey
How do you go about finding a mentor? You may have access to senior or executive level mentors since you work for a large company but I work in a startup and recently got promoted to a PM but there are no other PMs in this company so there is nowhere I can get guidance.
Great vid! Might I ask, what chaiir are you using?
ooh I'm using the steelcase leap chair!
Question! I've noticed that a lot of people who work in tech in Cali start meetings pretty late, compared to techies who work in non-tech industries (I work in higher education). Is this standard for big tech companies? Our stand-ups have always been at 8:45 am before everyone gets going, since our day starts at 8:30 am. Do you all compensate by working later into the evening, or is this just because you work with colleagues who are in different time zones?
Also curious about this! Chloe, can you also share what's your usual bed vs. wake time?
how would this day be different if you had to work in office? i cant imagine sleeping at 3am and waking up for a 9:30am meeting, not including the time it would take to commute!
omg so tiffany, i used to work in redwood city / palo alto and commute from SF at a company in livestreaming. I'd have HUGE gaming clients who i'd be oncall for who'd stream until 3 am PST and i'd have to be up and get to the office by 10 am the next day for exec reviews on the stream.
it was the worst part of my career. I had to wake up so early and drive down for 1-1.5 hrs. it was nuts. being remote is so much better though.
"end of the workday, it's five o'clock". Love to see big tech companies working with work-life balance and that you're not doing the "hustle" that many do... and then you jump back to work :P
love your videos, they spread so much joy. One day I hope to work for a product manager that seems to spread as much joy as you do. Cheers.
and you watch anime together. such cute couple
@@mrcs2248 100% to the anime watching life haha
V interesting insight, thank you! Keen to know what came first, you using remarkable in your PM workflows then they sponsored you, or the other wah round?
Also, why don’t you outsource the editing!?? Super easy to do. The CZcamsr Ali Abdaal has some good content on it
i actually do lots of paper prototypes, but didn't use the tablet until they sent it over (my first time hearing about them!). before, i wrote and drew a lot on my actualy notepad. i also own an ipad pro for digital drawings. interestingly, i don't use the ipad for sketches or to do lists. i've only had the tablet for about a month now, and i've been using it pretty regularly to get thru my work day. i really like having a space by my keyboard to write my quick thoughts on actually!
"Idk how to prioritize." 🤔 that's like pm101. Love your videos!
omg i make so many decisions in the day where i just completely poop out for any other small decisions in my life x_x
@@chloeshih haha I know exactly what you mean. When I leave work, I hate making decisions about anything.
2:57 oh no, she got the cheese touch.
haha you know exactly how i live my life xD
Chloe, could you tell please about your equipment on the working place? Thank you❤️
Do you mean my home office setup?
Wow what keyboard are you using? It looks so nice
hiyaaa! i'm working on a new beacons page, but it's in my 2nd tab here!! beacons.ai/colorsofchloe
How do you manage to fit all of that to do list during the day?
Thanks for being real....
Wonderful vlog, a lot of inspiration and interesting information❤️ do you know similar vlog but for Technical Project Managers?
choice between food and work - the classic PM problem lol
indeed. prioritization problems at its finest
got a passion for fashion! LOL :P i love your glasses, water bottle and top, what is the brand of it? let me know
thank you!! which brand are you talking about? i think my top is from love bonito!
@@chloeshih no problem! :) what about your glasses?
Just curious, as a PM do you have a lot of ad-hoc meetings (by other people) in a day?? I'm in management in a tech firm, not a PM but I get several ad-hoc meetings in a week that disrupts schedules!
i definitely do :( i have it less at bigger tech companies, but discord is really ad hoc and startup-y. lots of people start conversations in the moment and we jump on a call to talk it out
@@chloeshih :( How do ya manage them ad hoc without disrupting your weekly goals? Loads of people seem to be trigger happy at mine and it's already a big firm, so it's sorta the culture 😅
You need to do a video about your desk lol
I love your keyboard😅can we get a link loooool
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Chloe... the tea, though... you're probably over steeping it 😮
Oooohh!!! Can this integrate with productivity tools?! This may help me go digital🌸
the remarkable paper tablet? it integrates with Google Drive, Dropbox, Microsoft OneDrive. check the link i have!!
Love your apt! Ever considering to make a cost of living kinda video? I’m a newly turned PM based in Dallas, I’m bored to death here and looking for option to move to 🥺 much appreciated!
Ooo good idea. Like a “what I spend in a day or month?” Or do you mean how much my apartment costs?
@@chloeshih I think it might bring more insights if you do monthly average cost like rent, food, commute. And probably tax? ✧*｡٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و✧*｡
What keyboard do you use?
omg we have the same chopsticks!
9:53 oh so that's why there's splashes all over the stovetop 🤔
😭😭 aiya sorry D: my bad habits
I’ve always thought discord uses slack for internal communications but then I remembered that for discord it’s secure since they host discord themselves.. xD
Nope lmaooo
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Dose your compnay give you a desktop not a laptop?\
I almost cut my finger off as a carpenter and driving with my giant tool on a cheap ford Sudan.
I don't understand your work style at all but damn you drive a Mercedes and party all day. 🍻
I love that mug, where is it from?
i'm working on a new beacons page, but it's in my 2nd tab here!! beacons.ai/colorsofchloe
I would love/ it is my dream to work at discord. I wanna or would apply right now but Im not 18+ sadly, I just hope they are hiring when I turn 18.
I think the paper tablet is useful but expensive like $488.I am using a wifi tablet for my work.
Always love your content! One thing I’m a tad surprised to see is that you’re drawing wireframes. Designers are not there to make PM’s wireframe pretty. They’re hired to think abou the user journey and explore the flows. They’re the ones having education and experience in it. You also mentioned your passion in UX research and talking to users. Here I also think you can delegate more 😊 I didn’t mean to criticize. I’m sure you’re a great PM, but had to say this you also mentioned burnouts.
Oh yeah I definitely don't wireframe that much. Our designs own the actual designs. Sometimes if I'm trying to convey an idea asynchronously, I'll make a super mofi mock to describe the interaction. Sometimes I'll use a flow chart diagram. I'll basically choose whichever tool is easiest for me to describe the experience!
can we get a link to that keyboard?? so cool!!
i'm working on a new beacons page, but it's in my 2nd tab here!! beacons.ai/colorsofchloe
Tip for cutting onions: stretch the arms and stand further while cutting. Since then, I haven't cried "over" them :)
I’ll just cry a foot away from them 🥲
Curious. How many hours do you usually work in a day as a PM?
I’d say I have a normal 8 hr work day! But on days where I have big deliverables (exec reviews, PRDs, strategy docs), then i do the post dinner shift and work a couple more 😩 I think it takes me longer to get things done since I’m new to the company and we’re rapidly growing. Hope things come more naturally to me as time passes!
Need to meet with you, how can i contact with you?
Sick desktop
i should do a desk tour soon!!
I see you are using one of those e-paper tablets. I know it's waaaay later, but what do you think?
Do you ever have to use SQL in your roll?
Sometimes!
UCSD is the best! Good for your brother haha
yayy!! im so excited for him
Honestly this is above and beyond work for a pm. PM’s shouldn’t have to be making design documentation. Providing feedback and outcome orientation to the designer should be sufficient.
makes sense for larger companies. we're a rapidly growing startup and everyone wears lots of hats. it's a pretty collaborative process
@@chloeshih just be careful of scope creep in your role. Delegating more wire framing to design can free up time to focus on the big picture and driving product outcomes.
With Chinese in the video this time!
I know!! Thought itd be a nice personal flair. Lowkey had to call my mom to make sure the translations were kinda correct 🤓🤓