Harry Potter Theory: Slughorn's Darkest Secret
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- Harry spends a good portion of the Half Blood Prince trying to retrieve one of Slughorn’s memories, but what other secrets is he hiding? We think we have discovered an even greater secret of the potions master!
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Horace Slughorn is best Slughorn...no, wait...
Or he simply considered love-potion the most dangerous amongst the four potions, because it is basically the magic equivalent of a rape-drug.
Even worse, really. Date-rape drugs are known to make the person more suggestive and submissive, whereas love potion goes beyond that and gives the person an irresistible lust toward the person.
Desdemona, I disagree. I've heard so many rape victims say that they would have rather died as opposed to living with the trauma it cased them. Death is not the worst thing that can happen to a person. The worst things are the horrors that you carry with you for the rest of your life.
Anubis2705 #NoContext
Rape victims flock to you like little birds & whisper sweet nothings in your ear? That's so nice. You have extensive connections.
Then why havent they killed themselves? They do want to live. Danger means deadly..........
slughorn doesnt think people taking advantage of each other with love potion is the worst thing in the world
my comment was short, but ur so bad at this you find an opportunity to take statements out of the air! it shouldnt be so hard for you to interpret so few words
I didnt say death is the worst experience, genius. I said u clowns think rape is. but not me, im not a feminine fool. Oh memories hurt more than 1000 daggers that would pierce you but keep you alive forever? you precious literary child...
Oh an honorable death for Jesus... Yawn. Jamahl can be my honored guest
Merope didn't attend Hogwarts, but he may have still met the Gaunt family through his weird wizard-collecting.
Slughorn:
This wizard Mcclagan mine!
This Potter wizard?
Now also definitely mine!
I have to agree I kinda feel like he coulda went to see if any of the slytherin family was still alive
I WOULD assume she went and got sorted in another house and went home
@@AStylz28 lol, if she were sorted into Gryffindor or Hufflepuff she probably wouldve been disowned, and I doubt she wouldve been in Ravenclaw. Besides her lineage I think she still could've been in Slytherin by her ambition. Even though she loved Tom Riddle Sr, he didnt love her, so I think when she kept giving him a love potion for a freaking long time to keep him hers counts as ambitious.
@@Servingourstories see thats why i think she was pulled out of school because at the end of the day they probably preferred her to be a squib instead of an Gryffindor. Maybe she got sorted and slughorn saved her by promising to home school her. Slughorn would definitely find her even more interesting to know a decedent of slytherin got sorted into gryffindor.
Slughorn's motto: Pokémon, gotta catch 'em all :-D
Underrated comment
Why is this so underrated
Too funny!!!
😩💀💀
That's slughorns motto in a nutshell
'See's a room on fire'
Gryffindor: 'rushes in without thinking to save whoever or whatever is in there.'
Slytherin: 'finds a fire extinguisher and tells someone what's happening before going in.'
I feel this sums up the difference given by Slughorns description.
Slytherin: There's a fire in that building, where is the extinguisher!!!????
Hufflepuff: (from inside the building) Someone help!!!
Gryffindor: OMG I'm going in to save them.
Ravenclaw:....... -____- Aguamenti
Most likely the consquences are:
Gryffindor: Getting badly burnt while rescuing everyone and spending the next weeks in the infirmary.
Slytherin: Not being able to save everyone but walking out unscathed and smug.
@@yeetchicken420 Hahahaha! In a nutshell!
@@maryjoyspohrer256
SLytherin: "Yay someone is burning alive" *continuous cheering* "we clove being evil"
Dan Slash :(
I always assumed Slughorn just meant that it was a glorified date-rape drug, but there's that idea too.
BWAHAHAHA
I thought it was because you can slip someone a love potion and they would do anything for you up to and including dark magic, torture suicide and murder. Basically like the imperius curse you can control the other person
Well you're just a lovely person no aren't ya *nervous laughter*
It's kinda ironic how the Founders had a better grasp of consent than literally everyone in the Harry Potter books that Harry came into contact with. Boy tries to enter girls' dorms? Gets ejected down a slide. However, Lockheart suggested that students ask Snape to help brew "love potions", the Twins sold them in bulk, and Molly Weasley bragged about making SEVERAL as a student. (Also, all the characters were kinda horrible to Fleur simply because she was pretty? Like...they legit sexually harassed her.) And...yeah. Merope using that thing as a daterape drug gets overlooked too often...sorta like the Mauraders' sadistic torment of other students (not just Severus)?
Anonymous Fellow : Quite true. I never noticed that bit about the founders, but honestly I did not care for Merope's actions, especially considering her past. The way she treated Tom Riddle Sr. leads me to think much of her choices regarding her love for him involved control because of how her father treated her. She was not an overwhelmingly good person and allowed past indignities to affect and change how she handled her relationships, which to me only emphasizes the danger of Amortentia.
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I used to hate when they tried to do Harry Potter stuff but I have LOVED the last few theories!!
First, it's pretty clear that Voldy's mother was not 'bad' at magic but she was abused and ridiculed which aligns up with what we know about magic and mental health from the books and Fantastic Beasts. I think its just the simple horror of being able to force anyone into doing your bidding as effectively (and more easily) as the imperious curse
Slughorn: exaggerates for dramatic effect
Brothers: what in his past was he referring to? And how is Voldemort involved??
Tom Riddle was conceived by a couple that was brought together by a love potion, while Tom's father was still under the effects of it, which resulted in Tom being... the way he was.
7:16- No, Phineas Nigellus said that. At least in the books, which are the more "real" source.
JL C your right
JL C YEP! I scrolled through the comments because I was going to post this if someone else didn't already. Book 5, Phineas says this when Harry is trying to leave Grimould Place and he still believes he is somehow the snake that is attacking everyone. Phineas believes Harry is leaving to save himself but then realizes Harry's intentions are 'noble.' Somehow the quote must be incorrectly attributed to Old Sluggy somewhere on the net.
JL C Thank you! Somebody else noticed!
Rebecca K Same
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Why do these theories always make so much sense ???
Casey Prince because how tgey say it and go intp detail
Casey Prince Lol
Casey Prince every time I watch one of these videos, I'm like "that makes so much sense!" Then I look down at the comments and everyone hates it.
IKR. I may not like the theory but in the back of my mind they always make some sort of sense. And then the frustration and the internal battle starts. And the side of 'This makes sense' always wins.
Casey Prince if there didn't make sense it wouldn't have been posted
“ you can’t help anyone if you’re dead”
Basic thoughts of a slytherin.
Edit: I’m really bad at spelling and grammar.
You're.
slytherin*
Hey you fixed it :) thats all that matters !
More like... you can't help yourself if you're dead.
@@volleyballDave well yes but that’s covered in the “anyone”
In the 6th book Dumbledore tells that for some generations, no Gaunt went to Hogwarts, so... I think it is more likely that he saw the results of the potion, or even was in the receiving end of it and it made a impression! After all he stayed a bachellor for all his life...
Merope Gaunt, died young, believed to be a Squib, abused by her family for lack of magical ability...
Wait... Wait a second... WAIT A SECOND
I think Merope was an obscurial!!!
Think about it. Merope was thought to be a Squib by her father. However, in the memory Dumbledore shows to Harry, she is able to preform magic with her wand, though not with control or with the desired intent. It should be noted that Credence, the only well-documented obscurial, was also thought to be a Squib by Graves/Grindlewald. She was tortured and constantly put down by her father and brother, just as Credence was by his "mother". She died at a young age, but a very old age for an obscurial, so this part is a stretch, but not overly much, as Credence (and possibly Ariana Dumbledore as well) lived well past the perceived limit of an obscurial's lifespan, and he is the only really well-documented obscurial we have.
Not to mention the child Merope brought into the world. How could a young orphan, raised by Muggles, and a half-Muggle himself, possibly grow to be the most powerful Dark Wizard of all time? Sure, he is the heir of Salazar Slytherin, but only half, and there is no other heir of Slytherin (to my knowledge) that has ever come close to matching their ancestor's power, when Voldemort himself surpassed that power. How could he possibly have done it? Unless his mother passed on to him the dark power of the obscurus that was growing within her just as he was. Did Voldemort tap into the obscurus's power before he was even born? I would say yes. I would say this is the secret to Voldemort's power, and how he was able to mark himself as the most powerful Dark Wizard of all time, by mastering the unknown power of the darkest and most powerful creature in the Wizarding World.
Someone get some Ravenclaws over here to review this. I'd also love it if this could be seen by those Slytherins up above the towel, or even made into a video ;) Great video guys, love the theory (even if it probably wouldn't work with mine) and keep it up!
Nate TSO, I'm a Ravenclaw and I think this is the best HP theory I have ever heard! mind= blown! Go you!
Nate TSO Ravenclaw here; checks out. I'd like to discuss this more. I'll let you into the common room and we can discuss it near the window. Such a great view.
Nate TSO Cole Handelong;Ravenclaw. One thing to note she does eventually learn to control her magic. So a slight pin hole in the theory but otherwise well constructed ,and very plausible.
Nate TSO Anothwr Ravenclaw here! I agree that this is a very interesting and highly plausible theory. Let's all meet in the Ravenclaw common room to discuss. I'll make chocolate chip cookies!
I would love to join you in the common room, and the cookies sound delicious. I just hope your head of house will be ok with a Hufflepuff going in there ;)
Also, I hope you can help me work on my theories about Dumbledore's infinitely powerful patronus and boggart animagi. See you soon.
Also, tangentally related, it's obvious why the love potion is the most dangerous potion: It's basically date rape in a bottle. When you first brought it up, I thought Slugghorn's secret was going to be that he had experienced something like that first hand.
He date-raped Bellatrix and now he is on the run from death eaters? :D
Lmao, i'd love to see that happen 😂😂
date rape in a bottle?, that sonds like mixing champange with lobster and drug store alcohol.
Like Voldemort’s mother did
Same! I thought that someone used it on him, and that he was the father of Voldemort or something freaky.
That quote isn't from slughorn it's Phineas nigellus
Dashfan 05 I was wondering if anyone else would notice this.
Dashfan 05 Thank you for saying that. We must realize that the movies vs books is more rampant in Harry Potter than we believe.
oof
came here to say that.
I know right ????
First of all, Merope was thought to be a squib because her magical ability was suppressed by her father and brother. If she was able to go to Hogwarts and was selected to be in Slytherin house, you think her family would continue to call her a squib? Her ability to perform magic only improved after her father and brother were locked up in Azkaban.
Secondly, Albus Dumbledore said, "There is a room in the Department of Mysteries, that is kept locked at all times. It contains a force that is at once more wonderful and more terrible than death, than human intelligence, than forces of nature. It is also, perhaps, the most mysterious of the many subjects for study that reside there." It's no secret that love is the most powerful and dangerous force in the world. You would think a smart man like Slughorn would never underestimate it and gave a whole year worth supply of love potion to Merope without question her?
Thirdly, if Merope was close enough to Slughorn to keep asking him for love potion for a year even after she had graduated, the question is, why didn't she ask for his help when her family was abusing her?
In sort, it's entertaining to consider this theory but there's too many holes in it.
And that's not even mentioning the giant hole that is we know for a fact Merope never attended Hogwarts.
That is the case for most harry potter theories discussed in this channel. A lot of assumptions that arent always the most probable. Nonetheless, as you said, its great food for thought.
My first thought when I heard the words "her magic was suppressed" was an obscurous (can't spell lol). Anything in that?
The main flaw with this video is that it assumes there is only one recipe for a love potion and that's it. Wrong just completely wrong. The one Slughorn made is just the strongest known love potion. At Weezlys wizards wizbangs (Fred and Georges shop) they had several different strength love potions on display and concealed in different ways. Also these were the chocolates laced with love potion that Ron ate.
He gave information on horcruxes to a 16 yrs old boy because he believed he is just interested... And that was when he was not even so young any more.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. I thought it was implied that Merope Gaunt was actually a fairly capable witch, but her father and brother just terrified her so much that her fear around them was stronger than her magic (I had teachers in school whose classes I nearly failed because they terrified me, despite the fact that I normally did well in those classes)
Like Neville and potions...
Clare Nicke exactly.
Raye J Dumbledore makes exactly that point to Harry, when Harry questioned how she snared Tom Riddle Sr.
Scottish Chemist yeah, that's what I thought
Dumbledore said that once the other Gaunts had gone she was able to use magic well.
Merope wasn't the last heir of Slytherin. She had a brother who lived long enough to get blamed for the death of the Riddles. Also, isn't love potion pretty readily available? I mean Fred and George legally sell it in Diagon Alley so couldn't Merope easily have gone to Knockturn Alley and find a shady potions dealer for it?
Oops, there's a hole there. Before George and Fred, there wasn't anyone selling love potions, only the ingredients.
We don't know that for sure but even then, there are different variants of love potion. For instance, Molly Weasly brewed one when she was at school and she's never said to be a potions master. Even if Merope is bad at magic, for all we know, she could have had the know-how to make a rudimentary love potion.
xanxia I got the impression there are multiple variations of love potion creating various levels of effect, and the one Fred and George sell is a watered down version
Um, I'm certain that Slughorn knows how dangerous Amortentia is because he might have seen it used elsewhere and noticed it's horrible effects? Or read records of people who have misused the potion? Love potions aren't exactly a concept that was created when Slughorn was born. Plus, Merope doesn't seem like someone who has ever attended Hogwarts in the first place. For starters, she was trapped with her family who treated her like a servant and bullied her. Second, Salazar Slytherin LEFT Hogwarts because of the fight with Griffindor. Why would his immediate family go to the same school that did not value their greatest relative's ideologies?
...to open the chamber......
But they didn't...
Salty
@@katcyer26 They didn't open it, but they did know about it and maintain it. A Gaunt ancestor was actually responsible for creating the entrance under the sink when the school installed plumbing.
They did open it. They even knew about the basilisk. It’s been said in another supercarlin theory. The whole reason they switched the entrance was so they could keep going inside. They like hung out there smugly knowing they were the only ones to get in. And heard the basilisk. Why they didn’t unleash it on people? No idea. I guess they aren’t the true heir, whatever that means
“Ron’s fairly harmless use of the potion”
He definitely did not get poisoned by the mead that day or anything...
But, as you just said, that was poisoned mead. Love potion didn't harm him. Poison almost did.
Yes, but it wasn't the Love Potion itself and he would have been fine except that the mead was poisoned.
Ok but @ everyone pointing out that the Gaunt kids never went to school, to me this only strengthens the basis of his theory. She didn't go to school so there is no way in hell she could brew that by herself buuut she may have heard about the amazingly talented student that just graduated and was on his way to becoming the youngest potions master..... she totally could have found him and said who she was and that she needed help. Now idk what exactly a potions master does outside teaching but it makes sense to me that they charge people to make potions for them. I am sure her name would have earned her a favor such as supplying her with love potion....basically Horace was her dealer.
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hahayourfunny94 He was a dealer 😆
He does seem to be connected to the magic black market, with his stealing of plants and stuff
"Her dealer" 😂😂💀 slughorns secretly a baller.
Brewing a potion is not that different from cooking a meal. If you have the proper equipment and a list of instructions, you don't need any sort of education or special skill. Provided she didn't use a school textbook and could read, she'd have been perfectly capable of brewing the potion herself.
Well, I timed that refresh perfectly
Fantabulous *lol GG*
Fantabulous *lol GG*
Sorting Hat: “You’d be great in Hufflepuff, you know.”
Merope: “Slytherin, I have to be in Slytherin.”
Sorting Hat: “Well, if you’re sure, better be ....”
The quote at 7:21 is actually said by phinias nigelous
Or you know the whole love is dangerous thing. Or how the story suggests (and folklore in general) that love potions can only create obsessoin not true love.
Or, you know, that if you follow the use of a love potion to it's conclusion as did Merope, it´s actually rape. And if you do this for a prolonged period of time, you´re essentially creating a sex slave, which is absolutely vile and I don´t see how it is any different from, say, the imperius curse, which is one of the unforgivable curses precisely because you are taking away someone´s free will and bodily autonomy. It's almost like the imperius curse in potion form.
Paranormal Encyclopedia i
Paranormal Encyclopedia It doesn't suggest, it's a fact.
yslrg It's unforgivable because of the intent required to cast it.
The Cruciatus Curse requires true desire to cause pain and suffering to cast. It therefore makes sense that the Killing and Imperius Curses require true desire to murder, and to control and essentially own someone, respectively.
And it's because they all require such intent to cast that they’re unforgivable. That’s the common thread running through them, and explains why the Killing Curse, something that causes instant, painless death is unforgivable, but something like Confringo, that can cause a prolonged, painful death, isnt. It’s because of the intent needed to cast them.
No its probably because one lady plus the love potion equals probably war, whether on purpose or accident.
Not super important but worth mentioning anotentia is the world's most powerful love potion not the only love potion
Somethings I question wether or not J.K. Knows about these theories/put them into place or if people find these, she watches them, and then says “I *totally* meant to do that.....yeah....totally.....”
I'm 100% sure that she has done that. XD
Or maybe she just bought it from a potion store
Has anyone thought about that ???
The only money they had was the value of the two heirlooms.
@@MegaKhelditia By that logic, she couldn't have acquired the ingredients either. I also always assumed she just bought the potion...
@@MegaKhelditia She could have shoplifted it.
@@MegaKhelditia she sold the locket didn't she ?
@@khalilrahme5227 but that was after getting pregnant, therefore after making the love potion
in the books, slughorn didnt steal the leaves, he was there with madame sprout
jon emery yea
The movies really did piss all over one of the best Slytherins, didn't they?
Clint L yep
Clint L Regulus Black. Yes he was a Death Eater, but c'moon. You know his story.
TheWispWillow that was only in the movie. In the book he wasn't alone. He had permission t get the leaves
Slughorn is an amazing character he's so underrated
Agreed. I want a new book series revolving around young Slughorn and his misadventures with various potion.
I love that JKR included him in the final 3 to duel Voldemort. It really shows how much he regretted giving Tom info on the Horcruxes and how badly he wanted to make amends for that mistake.
I really like him. Eventhough he has character traits some consider very Slytherin like and negatively, he still lives his life and there is something beautiful about that.
Harry: accio firebolt.
Clever people : accio egg 🏉
A wizard like Dumbledore would clearly have enchanted the egg to resist summoning....like Voldemorts horcruxes!
paschal nwosu nahhhhhhhhhhhhh he’s to nieve
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He couldn’t do that, it was guarded by the dragons claws, so it wouldn’t come to him. But after he lured the dragon I think it would have been smarter to do that.
Harry was playing to his strengths; using the Firebolt to give himself the mobility he needed, flying being something he was very proficient at, allowed him to be in his element.
Dumbledore suggests that her apparent lack of magical skill came from being constantly terrorized by her father and brother.
It's a wonder that she didn't develop an Obscuras.
@@maryjoyspohrer256 because obscuras grow up in a family/environment with full on magic haters. the gaunts were literally one of the oldest wizarding families.
@@peacheroseee ariana dumbledore had an obscurus too though
@@friendlyneigborhoodbean that's because she was traumatized by a gaggle of muggle boys who saw her doing magic. while it isn't ever clearly mentioned, we can assume she got beaten up so badly cause she had to stay the rest of her life at her house.
@@peacheroseee oh ok. Got it.. My bad
What an amazing writer JK Rowling is, the Harry Potter series ended 10 years ago and here people are still thinking of great theories.
Harry Potter will never end
yemeniassasin Always.
ObsessedGamer
*Nazi
See, by your rational, you are also an idiot, since you made an error. She isn't an idiot for not knowing something that you happen know. (I don't actually think you're an idiot, I'm just making a point here)
ObsessedGamer ~ whether you consider someone to be an idiot or not is your opinion and based on your own level of intelligence (this does not always indicate superior intelligence btw, since we all know about the dunning-kruger effect). However, for a single mum to casually put together 7 books for her child going through high school, one for each year, using age appropriate content and vocabulary, increasing the complexity of the plots appropriately for the perceived age per year and to demonstrate an innate understanding of the inner workings of a child and their inter-personal relationships during each year of development throughout those formative years is pretty impressive to most. As a mum I can honestly say this woman's understanding of children on many levels is spot on. She also has an exceptional grasp of the English language and has a creative ability very few could compete with. If that makes her an idiot then I aspire to be as idiotic as her one day :)
yemeniassasin ikr! That's what makes Harry Potter so good!!!
IT SAYS IN THE HALF BLOOD PRINCE BOOK THAT MAROPE DID NOT GO TO HOGWARTS
Violet Wooden ikr
which chapter? (I only asking cause I don't have enough time to hunt through the book for hour once again god damn homework!!!!)
Yes, I remember that Marvolo said it to Ogden that none of his children went to shool.
Bro see the video completely
It doesn't say it word for word, but at the time of Ogden's memory, she was around seventeen or eighteen (since she was 18 when she left the house of Gaunt), she HAD she gone to Hogwarts, she would have already graduated, and I doubt that she did considering that her father and brother believed she was a squib and the Gaunts had very little (if any) money they could spend on things like transportation or school supplies. (Chapter 10 of HBP)
Again, I don't think it says anywhere in the books "the Gaunt children never attended school," but it seems fairly obvious to me that they didn't and this theory could not have taken place.
That being said, it IS a neat theory, although I have always believed that Slughorn was once married under the influence of Amortentia, or something of that nature.
I always assumed the Gaunts never attended Hogwarts due to Salazar leaving. They were so proud of their heritage that they refused to step foot at a school that Salazar disowned.
1:01 Wow SCB you are the most dramatic CZcamsrs I have ever seen! XD
I think that when horice said that love potion was the most dangerous potion in the room, it was merely jk rowlings way of foreshadowing. Giving a hint to voldemorts past that only her most devoted fans would understand.
*Horace
JK Rowling doesn't just mess around.
@@fatima_nadeem idk dude some things don't make too much sense,like the thestrals
@@khalilrahme5227 what doesn't make sense it's all magic
@@0bliviodice Why couldn't harry see thestrals until cedric died ? He had witnessed his mother's death and couldn't see thestrals, as well as quirell's death, (and technically tom riddle after destroying his diary, a part of the soul died)
The Gaunts did not attend Hogwarts. There a few indications why not.
1. When Salazar Slytherin did not get his will about only allowing Pure bloods at the school he left (as told in the chamber of secrets).
2. When he left, he created the chamber of secrets "until the return of his true heir to Hogwarts". Voldemort was the first Gaunt to have ever been to Hogwarts for centuries.
3. Marvolo Gaunt told us, he does not open letters. So all of them never got their Hogwarts invitations.
4. Marvolo taught his children at home. And he taught his daughter poorly. We see this in the memory in the half blood prince.
5. There is no compulsory school attendance. They were not forced to Hogwarts either. (as stated by Hermione in the deadly hallows.
GalliadII it is deathly hallows
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6. Marvolo thought she was a squib, so he wouldn't have sent her in any case. He wouldn't want to be humiliated by an underperforming child.
the gaunts did attend howgwarts. jk rowling herself wrote that in pottermore. just search chamber of secrets and read what she says. it talks about gaunts in hogwarts who couldt stop bragging that they are parselmouths
+rousoud That was the Gaunts in general and not specifically Merope or Morfin or even Marvolo.
Similar to others' comments:
As I understand it, Marvolo Gaunt didn't allow either of his children to attend Hogwarts as he (like their ancestor, Salazar Slytherin) believed that the school was corrupt for allowing muggleborn and half-breeds to attend.
Additionally, when Merope was a teenager, and was shown as being in love with Tom Riddle Sr, she was already a teenager and Marvolo was berating her for being (to his knowledge) a squib.
Edit: I always figured she taught herself to brew the potion by secretly studying and learning from an old textbook that Marvolo had around for Morfin. I figured that Morfin was (poorly) home schooled by Marvolo as far as magical education goes.
This is a really good theory! Also, ravenclaw will always be the best for the whole dying for your friends situation. Gryffindors would die for you, hufflepuffs would die with you, slytherins would let you die and ravenclaws would find a way where no one dies. Boom.
Sorry, but I have to disagree.
The Gaunts thought that Mirope was a squib so why should they have let her attend Hogwarts?
Also, in the history of Ilvermorny on Pottermore it says that the founder was abducted by her aunt because she was a descendant of Slytherin and her Parents didn't believe in pureblood superiority. So basically, she was like the Gaunts and she *didn't* let her niece attend Hogwarts.
HEY BROTHER
Slughorn wasn't bad. Slughorn wanted to have a collection of students who would help him gain something. So he picked high achievers for example Lily, Harry and many others. Sad thing is that Slughorn didn't pay attention to students who weren't achieving.
Awesome theory, but her name isn't /měh-RŌP/ ... It's
/MĚH-rōh-pē/
(It's Greek)
basilikon THANK you for correcting this mispronunciation.
@addie G ... I am honoured that you might presume so, but I haven't been sorted 😎
@N A 🤣🤣🤣
merope did not attend hogwarts, she was simply repressing her magical abilities while around her father and brother. I doubt she ever even got the letter, since it is doubtful she would have made enough of an impression on The Book of Admittance if she even made one on the Quill of Acceptance
www.pottermore.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/the-quill-of-acceptance-and-the-book-of-admittance
Also the wiki says that she didn't go
harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Merope_Riddle
The problem with this theory is that Merope almost certainly never attended Hogwarts, so it's difficult to know how she and Slughorn could've met
Inkyminkyzizwoz boy for such an entertaining channel they really don’t do enough research sometimes :/
She acquired a wand so she may have been able to aquire a spell book too. I am sure when her brother and father was not being mean to her, she practiced spells. After seeing Tom Sr and falling in love, she most likely taught herself to make a love potion. Dumbledore thought she stopped giving Sr. the potion, but it might have been that she was not able to make a very good love potion; a strong one or a long lasting one and I think Sr. broke away from Marope rather than being "released"
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please make a theory on RAVENCLAWS
Nicholas Borg yasss
Nicholas Borg Sounds cool. Totally not because I'm a Ravenclaw.....
Nicholas Borg Or Hufflepuff
Nicholas Borg screw ravenclaw, hufflepuff for life
Kenneth Njapa yes, also the most redundant class. Intelligent and smart... As a Ravenclaw, I am ashamed.
Once again, a very convincing theory, Ben.
No. Voldemort already knew about his to make a horcrux before he asked Slughorn.
No, Merope was never at Hogwarts. No, she and Slughorn never crossed paths. I doubt he knew where Little Hangleton was.
Yes, Merope had sufficient magic to live by on her own. She could have made a love potion. Whether amortensia or not, we do not know. We know that she wanted Tom Riddle's genuine love so she released him, but when she was rejected, she refused to use magic anymore.
Add another item to the list of why magical England is a worse than medieval hellscape for its citizens: no Child Protective Services to take children out of terrible, abusive conditions. Merope languished in a terrible, filthy, insane, poverty-stricken home for no reason.
@@sarahk2722 child protection service would come to exist until 70 years after thats event , and they didn't help Harry much either even though he lived in a mugger world
@@sarahk2722 Yes, but that was a 100 years ago and I'm pretty sure the Gaunts had spells against things like that anyway, so no....
I did enjoy this video guys, but you made a failure I'm afraid. That quote at 7:17 was Phineas Nigellus Black, not Slughorn.
Personally I believe the reason the love potion might be considered dangerous is simply due to the fact that it is basically a legal imperius curse. While yes you may not have full control of the person they would be extremely easy to manipulate.
Yes, I suppose it should, if not totally outlawed, at least more censored in the wizarding world.
Didn't the book state that Merope did not attend Hogwarts, as it was too "poisened" by Muggleborns and blood-traitors? Still like this idea, though :3
Don't recall that, but I wouldn't be surprised. Gormlaith Gaunt kept Isolt Sayre from attending Hogwarts for that very reason.
It doesn't say it word for word (as far as I can tell), but at the time of Ogden's memory, she was around seventeen or eighteen (since she was 18 when she left the house of Gaunt), she HAD she gone to Hogwarts, she would have already graduated, and I doubt that she did considering that her father and brother believed she was a squib and the Gaunts had very little (if any) money they could spend on things like transportation or school supplies. (Chapter 10 of HBP)
Again, I don't think it says anywhere in the books "the Gaunt children never attended school," but it seems fairly obvious to me that they didn't and this theory could not have taken place.
That being said, it IS a neat theory, although I have always believed that Slughorn was once married under the influence of Amortentia, or something of that nature.
Lizzie Basu 
Evelina Rønneseth
It's pronounced (leviosa) MER/A/AY
Also, just because Merope didn't go to Hogwarts doesn't mean that Slughorn didn't know her. It would have been easy for him to locate her, as her family was pretty well known, and with his obsession for famous people, it's exactly the sort of thing he would have done. Just a thought :)
0:54 Lavender:HMMMM I could use this......
This is a fascinating theory; Slughorn being inadvertently responsible for Voldemort’s birth, and his attempts at immortality by telling him about the Horcruxes!
May want to fact-check. I'm fairly certain it was Phineas who made the comment about Slytherins being brave but not stupid.
macavitythenardier Yep
7:19 slughorn didn’t say that, it was Phineas Nigellus in the chapter “Christmas on the Closed Ward” in Order of the Phoenix
I was just checking the comments, because I was pretty sure of the same thing xD. Like Slughorn wouldn't say that 100%
I could binge your Harry Potter theories forever.
I personally think that Slughorn called love potion the most dangerous potion in the room because of other reason.
Other potions do not alter who you are, your actions. That one elixir that makes you speak only truth can be dangerous, but not as dangerous as a person in love. If potion is strong enough the affected will do anything for their 'true love'. Which can lead to serious manipulations with people that can affect entire countries. Remember when Ron ate love potion by accident? He would do anything Romilda asks just to show how much he loves her. That could happen to any person of any importance.
Leave all my savings in your bank vault? Of course, my love.
Give you a look on those super secret government documents I have access to? As you wish, darling
Kill someone? No problem, my love.
You didn't order any fries but you want mine now? They are yours now.
Just imagine how destructive it can be if someone manipulates things like that.
sharing fries is destructive
you are a wise one
Alex Mel
I mean, murder, secrets, money, all that’s ok to manipulate. But fries? THIS POTION MUST BE BANNED! INNOCENT FRIES ARE AT STAKE’m
Surely the 🍟 are not to be acquired through such lowly means!!!
Dying is worse. The only thing worse than dying is creating Voldemort. Get it? Good.
So it's kinda like... love potion is a sort of imperius curse 2.0?
I always tought taht he said that because forcing someone to love you is a terrible thing? and having that person probably obsessing avout you may be even dangerous...
MoonChild that* Thought* About*
Same
i agree with you
I’m also wondering if he’s referring to a love experience he had. Like let’s say there was a gal he fancied in his earlier years and brewed up a potion to win her heart. However, given it’s his early days he made the potion far too strong and that altered her mind so much that she was irreversibly and practically psychotically in love with him. Then when it became too much for him and he rescinded his love for her, she killed herself not being able to stand the thought of being without him or seeing someone else with him
I have just found your channel, these little insights are so fun. And bring up things I never second guessed.
I love it!! Thursdays are now my favorite days because of Ben
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I will never be unable to dis-associate Slughorn from the line in A Very Potter Sequel "What about professor Slughorn? -Oh he got busted, you know for "collecting young boys."
X'D
Maddie Siegmund AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I know right AHAHAHAHA
Oh, so that's why love potion is so dangerous...
Just discovered the channel and have been doing a deep dive into the Harry Potter videos. When reading the books, I think the worst self realization I had was that Slughorn was extremely relatable to me, in that he viewed knowledge as awesome and liked sharing his knowledge with others. He was smart, he was proud of it, and if someone asked for his help, he of course was going to help them, even if the knowledge was frowned upon. Because... I think he hoped for the best from people. He was definitely a Slytherin and knew the value of networking and whatnot, but he also just... Seemed to think most people were curious for curiosity's sake. So he helped people, shared his knowledge, maintaining good friendships and all that... And then some of those people did awful things and he felt it was all his fault for being so... Nice. Not being as suspicious as he should be. I myself do this so often despite being very aware of people's manipulative tendencies. But you just... Want to believe in people, you know? I was also sorted into Slytherin via Pottermore (and every other random quiz, haha), and I just... Really relate to Slughorn's good qualities, and I know that I probably would have done the exact things he did. Sharing information and helping people, only for it to backfire. Stereotypes of Slytherin don't sound like this, but trust me; we are more than just our ambition to do all the things, know all the things, etc. XD
MAROPE WAS BAD AT MAGIC!!! NOT POTIONS!!!
I don't think Merope Gaunt would have gone to Hogwarts. Her father kept her as a slave; always telling her she was a talentless squib and abusing her so thoroughly that she could barely perform magic around him. Allowing her to go to Hogwarts would develop her talent and confidence to where he couldn't control her.
I think the book says that probably because her father and brother bullied her she could not perform well magic.And once they were gone in prison she was able to unleash her powers fully as she had no one to be over her head all the time.Still nice theory though :D
Ability to perform magic does not mean ability to brew complicated potions :P I mean, yeah, she could have tried, she knew how fire under the pot works, but potions often require precision and patience witch a total newbie probably wouldn't have ;-)
Oh I think she had an overbundance of patience. No impatient person would deal with their abusive family the way she did, or the entire situation with Tom Riddle. She wanted him to really love her, but knew it to be improbable, so she acted carefully.
Plus, she just might've had a talent for it, like Snape. Remember, the one who's been correcting his potions textbook during his sixth year, possibly even earlier. When you have a talent for something, it's somehow easier to learn it, even from the zero, where someone else would have to spend long hours learning even most basic things.
It has been explained, I think on pottermore that Slytherin locket had some of the Salazar's knowledge and helped to enhance Merope's powers as a witch and thought her advanced magic.
“Despite that Hagrid appearance” 😂
That was gold
You Guys are Awesome!!! Keep up the good work
Mace Windu?
Mace Windu I saw you at a stupendous wave video
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I'll stay over here as a Ravenclaw with Luna Lovegood, the best character in the entire Harry Potter series.
Bryce McCandless Luna Lovegood is my favorite character by far.
Bryce McCandless Luna is my *idol*
I believe the same (\
Same man.
Bryce McCandless same man no hufflepuff's allowed here in the ravenclaw tower
The moment I learned of the nature of Tom's conception and re-heard Slughorn say that line, it clicked immediately for me.
Still one of my favourite theories that you guys have made!!
I love the way Voldemort says Avada Kedaavra...
“EhVAAAHDAH KADAAAVHRAH
EUWHHADAH KAEDAUWRAH
IIIIIIIIII WANNA BANANA
EHVADHAA KEVAHDRAH
Am I the only one who equates those love potions to date rape? Like, I thought that was the reason why it was dangerous, because you can give that to anyone and potentially take advantage of them in their "Lovey-Dovey" state.
Rachel McAllister Yeah, it really is date rape in a vial. It’s gross.
Pollen juice could be used as daterape and in dozens of other dangerous ways
Yes and there's the chance of creates a psychopathic child. That may or may not become the second magic Hitler.
No, a lot of us do. I think it’s a universally despised concept. many people in the pagan communities will say the same thing, using magic to steal free will is just dark as you can get with out killing someone
Exactly.And if you conceive a child using it then that turns into voldemort
My son is 2 and a half years old and loves hearing the "heyy brothers" part, and keeps repeating that whenever he sees me watching your videos😊
This is an amazing theory on a quote I 100% overlooked and it just adds up so well!
It's also a theory that relies on the viewer overlooking a bunch of other quotes that would make them realise it's rubbish.
Also remember the weasleys sold love potions in their shops. In the 1920s you could buy undiluted chemicals in shops in the muggle world. Could it have been possible that she bought a powerful, undiluted potion and tipped some into the water she gave to Tom riddle Sr. I wonder if the ministry put restrictions on undiluted potions later and the weasleys were selling a potion that was so weak it couldn't have done much. Remember those potions were sold to children
Ah, but we've been told they were not weak.
They weren't weak because it's the same stuff that was in the chocolate cauldrons that Ron ate that made him infatuated with Romilda Vane
I actually think they are weak because because slughorn says they can become more powerful over time
We don't even know for sure if she used a love potion ;it was just Dumbledore's best guess Also, the potion didn't have to be Amortentia- it's not the only one out there, just the most powerful one. And if she did attend Hogwarts, well, she would have made friends, there would be teachers that would nurture her magical potential- she had magical potential, but it didn't show until her father and brother were locked up.
Good job! It all came together well.
7:23
actually, in the books, it was Phineas Nigellius who said that
I really like the new things showing which brother is talking and their social media in the video. Really puts some new aspects to the video. Going to follow right now ;)
She didn't go to Hogwarts specifically because she was a Gaunt. They were hermits. She couldn't leave because her father was so traditional that he couldn't even take care of himself, he needed his daughter to stay home at all times to do all the house work and cooking. He thought the love potion was the most dangerous one in there because it's just common sense. If you can't think of ways that love potion could be extremely dangerous...
I was never under the impression that there was only one type of love potion. I always assumed there were some that were not as powerful but less difficult to make.
I think that this could actually be very plausible.. Great theory as always guys 👍
Is it necessary that Merope gave Tom Riddle Amortentia? Like, it couldn't have been some other love potion that she gave him?
sildarmillion i agree. As far as I know, it was never mentioned what kind of love potion she gave riddle.
Hey SuperCarlinBrothers! You should make a video showcasing the complete creation of a video including gathering all the information you use.
This is one of my favorite Carlin Brother's videos. I've never though of this. It sounds EXACTLYike the type of thing Slughorn would be a part of (unknowingly) and ashamed of. This is an excellent theory.
I actually got this theory right when he mentions that Slughorn says it's the most dangerous potion in the room. I called it 😎
Great video once again! :)
Why does he never blink? 😆
Because he's a snake.
Psychosmurf5471 cause he's a Slytherin
The angels must be near
He does 😂
Fan theory! He has no eyelids
This seems unlikely to me, as it would have required Merope and Horace staying in touch after school. Based on the memory of Merope in her post-Hogwarts, pre-marriage years (basically, when she was quietly pining for Tom Riddle Sr.) that Harry viewed in the Pensieve, it's hard to imagine her having the means or initiative to send an owl to Horace and ask him for help with something. My personal take on Slughorn's remarks about Amortentia is simply that anyone who's been around long enough knows that a love potion sounds like a bad and dangerous idea!!!
I believe the theory; remember she was cunning enough to trick Riddle to drink some water when he rode by. Even Slughorn says "Never underestimate the power of obsessive love"
I see "two minutes ago" on the notification, I think "Noooo! I'm two minutes late!" :)
@ SuperCarlinBrothers, in regards to Merope procuring a love potion, my guest is it could either have been it passed down to the family Guant (like the ring and locket) or she could have stolen a few bottles. Plus there is a theory that she could have made it herself. Remember Dumbledoe said, "her powers were never @ their best while her father was around) I don't think that Slugorn had a hand in helping her brew up a love potion, but your theory does sound solid. I found it very interesting. Thx
Great video.
It sounds very plausible!
I always liked slug horn because he was a great flawed character who didn’t always jump at heroism, don’t get me wrong I love almost all HP characters, but as a reader who was getting older, when we meet him in the 6th book I found him to be a breath of fresh air.