Valentinian III (425 - 455)

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  • čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
  • Valentinian III does nothing, Aetius defends the empire, and Rome burns for a second time.
    Songs Used
    And It Is There, in Those Depths - Chris Zabriskie
    Equivalent 3 - Loscil
    Jane's Lament - Kim Planert
    Ancient Sources
    Cassiodorus
    Jordanes
    Hydatius
    Gregory
    Modern Sources
    Heather, Peter, The Fall of the Roman Empire (2005)
    Gibbon, Edward, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
    Online Sources
    Wikipedia.org
    Loeb Classical Library
    Perseus Tufts Library
    Livius.org
    #history #rome #thucydides

Komentáře • 65

  • @emperorclaudius5499
    @emperorclaudius5499 Před 3 lety +67

    Historia Civilis wishes he had an upload schedule this consistent👍

    • @james_giant_peach
      @james_giant_peach Před 5 měsíci +2

      Dude this channel is definitely a Historia civils type of channel 😂

  • @TonyFontaine1988
    @TonyFontaine1988 Před 3 lety +81

    The only one who could rival Honorius in title for worst emperor was Valentinian the III

    • @vornadopro6502
      @vornadopro6502 Před 3 lety +21

      He wasn’t as useless as Honorius. Valentinian III was actually the reason why no German tribe entered Italy with an army. The Vandals and their king Gaiseric was in good diplomacy with Valentinian. Valentinian himself was not good and he did murder Aetius himself. But he did prove that he could do a little bit better than his Uncle Honorius.

    • @taxavation
      @taxavation Před 2 lety +7

      Commodus is, in my opinion, the worst but they both suck

    • @ZephLodwick
      @ZephLodwick Před 2 lety +5

      There's also Phocas and Alexios IV

    • @jahterminatedlmao5473
      @jahterminatedlmao5473 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ZephLodwick alexios iii was worse than alexios iv. also cant forget andronikos i

    • @creationsxl2979
      @creationsxl2979 Před 2 lety +1

      In my opinion it goes like this, honorius, valentinian iii, Caligula, commodus.

  • @evzenvarga9707
    @evzenvarga9707 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Stilicho, Aetius and Maiorian, the men who almost single handedly held the state together.

  • @evzenvarga9707
    @evzenvarga9707 Před 9 měsíci +6

    This is so depressing to watch, to see it all crashing down after it had endured so much.

  • @iDeathMaximuMII
    @iDeathMaximuMII Před rokem +5

    Valentinian III was also the Great Grandson of Valentinian I so he kinda revived that Dynasty somewhat

  • @MuseEgg
    @MuseEgg Před 3 lety +7

    Your videos are amazing. you are a rising star of CZcams. Your upload schedule is great af

  • @itsgracekim
    @itsgracekim Před 3 lety +11

    SO PROFESSIONAL

  • @user-nkmaretsik
    @user-nkmaretsik Před 3 lety +18

    Here we see all the issues of Rome come together, generals taking the shots, constant civil wars, ""Barbarians"" creating kingdoms of theirs and the roman army be depanded of the good relationships with the previously mensioned kingdoms. The Western Empire under Valentian III was a state on his last legs.
    But to be honest the state brought it to itself , giving all the importance to general and they fought like vultures over a dying animal for titles and fame .But nothing was given for the conditions of living of the average citizen ,who had high taxes and lacked of security so rebellion became common as you show in Spain , and the same was in Brittany (not Brittain) also.
    As for the ""Barbarians"" they used this opportunity to enlange their territories and take privileges of the Empire and when the Empire failed to give they raided and took land. The result was great for them, made no difference to the average resident and devastating the Empire.
    When it comes to Aetius I have mixed feelings. He was part of the general who have part of the blame, but after he becme Magister Militum he did his best to keep the Empire alive and as I see defeated Attila. Regardless after his death and the sack of 455 the end was almost certain it was matter of when and how.

    • @hia5235
      @hia5235 Před rokem

      He did defeat Attila dont let anyone tell you otherwise.

  • @michamozyrski8369
    @michamozyrski8369 Před 3 lety +2

    Another great video. Cant wait to see the next!

  • @rest1tutor693
    @rest1tutor693 Před 3 lety +9

    Great production 👍

  • @SupremeSupervillain_
    @SupremeSupervillain_ Před rokem +1

    Love your videos bro.. I think I've watched damn near all of them at this point 😂

  • @patpearce8221
    @patpearce8221 Před 2 lety +3

    The letters of cassiodorus indicate that at least relatively contemporaneously 50 years later it was perceived as a Visigothic victory against the Huns. Highly convincing.

    • @thucydideschannel
      @thucydideschannel  Před 2 lety +2

      Cassiodorus worked with the Gothic court and helped write Gothic histories.

    • @patpearce8221
      @patpearce8221 Před 2 lety +1

      @@thucydideschannel yeah but from memory it was just a letter from Theodoric warning them not to confront Clovis. Still within living memory at the time of writing.

  • @MichaelMoore-no9ly
    @MichaelMoore-no9ly Před 2 měsíci +1

    You really should have mentioned Pope Leo the Great. While Valentinian fled, Leo led a delegation to northern Italy to meet with Attila. Even if you don't agree with the interpretation of the meeting as depicted in art above Leo's tomb in St. Peter's Basilica, you have to admit that Attila decided to spare Rome afterward.

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 Před 2 lety +5

    Say what you will about Commodus, but at least the empire wasn't hemorrhaging when he was in charge

  • @tomasmiranda4454
    @tomasmiranda4454 Před 3 lety +2

    This channel is awesome

  • @franciskoster1030
    @franciskoster1030 Před 3 lety +4

    No mention of Pope Leo?

  • @kazukikjp
    @kazukikjp Před 10 měsíci

    How do you animate the moving armies?

  • @eliasshammas7188
    @eliasshammas7188 Před 3 lety +10

    this is quite good. So after majorian which I assume is next, how will the last few puppet emperors be handled

    • @thucydideschannel
      @thucydideschannel  Před 3 lety +10

      I'm making two more videos to cover the west: one for the brief career of Majorian, and then a final video called Imperial Collapse. I'll probably just use that video as an opportunity to talk about the economic, social, and political ramifications of the fall of the west, while mentioning which useless people happen to sit on the throne.

    • @eliasshammas7188
      @eliasshammas7188 Před 3 lety +6

      @@thucydideschannel dont talk about my main man Olybrius like that

  • @itsgracekim
    @itsgracekim Před 3 lety +1

    QUEEN

  • @luizsa8300
    @luizsa8300 Před 3 lety +4

    15.16 What happened to Eudoxia afterwards?

    • @thucydideschannel
      @thucydideschannel  Před 3 lety +9

      She lived in Carthage with the Vandals for a few years before the eastern emperor Leo paid for her return to Constantinople.

    • @luizsa8300
      @luizsa8300 Před 3 lety +1

      @@thucydideschannel Thanks!

  • @sekeriyasharif6593
    @sekeriyasharif6593 Před 3 lety +4

    God damn it Romans stop killing each other. General saves the day later killed by the emperor.

    • @vornadopro6502
      @vornadopro6502 Před 3 lety

      One of the big reasons why Western Rome fell. Politicians and senators were corrupt. The empire was unorganized.

    • @aegonii8471
      @aegonii8471 Před 2 lety +1

      The reason they did that is because in the past it would be General saves the day later General rebels and usurps the emperor. As incompetent as Honorious and Valentinian III were you can understand why they did the things they did. We know in hindsight that Aetius and Stilicho never rebelled but at the time there would be nothing these emperors could do from stopping it. Even Stilicho and Aetius weren’t solely noble. The only reason neither one rebelled is because they essentially were the emperor and both wielded power with impunity. The next step would be killing the emperor yourself and taking the purple but that would be pointless because they already wielded the power. Not to mention it would cause unneeded stability in an already weakening empire.

  • @metarus208
    @metarus208 Před 3 lety +1

    you go joe

  • @wilsontheconqueror8101
    @wilsontheconqueror8101 Před rokem +2

    I though Atilla withdrew from Rome after meeting with the Pope?

  • @crossetler_2184
    @crossetler_2184 Před rokem

    Be the way it goes, the Roman Empire was very different. The situations described seem like coming from the Middle Ages. So did the Middle Ages began at 576? For me it'll always be when Theodhosius died.

  • @artman40
    @artman40 Před 2 lety

    Just an example how larger territory doesn't mean a stronger country. During most of the republic era, Rome was significantly smaller but managed to hold together better.

  • @henkstersmacro-world
    @henkstersmacro-world Před 2 lety +1

    👍👍👍

  • @michaelmoore4043
    @michaelmoore4043 Před 3 lety

    Oh yes

  • @---eo1xf
    @---eo1xf Před 3 lety +1

    great video!
    sorry about being the worst emperor btw

    • @causantinthescot
      @causantinthescot Před 2 lety

      Honorius was the worst acutally, you were bottom 4 imo.