What Happened to Confederates After the Civil War? | Animated History
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One Confederate general, William Wing Loring went to Egypt after the end of the Civil War along with about fifty other Union and Confederate veterans who were recommended to the ruler of Egypt, Isma'il Pasha by General Sherman. There, he served in the Egyptian military for several years and participated in the Egyptian-Ethiopian War of 1874 to 1876. He even served as Isma'il Pasha's chief of staff at one point and rose to the rank of Major General in the Egyptian Army before returning home to the United States. He wrote a book about his experiences in Egypt called; A Confederate Soldier in Egypt, which was published in 1884, two years before he passed away.
That's cool. Had no idea Egypt of all places knew what was happening
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Egypt seems to be a safe haven for defeated soldiers
A movie should be made about him and his band of veterans..
what a great story , is the book available ??
Plot twist: they all went to Argentina
No but they actually escaped to Brazil search it up
Brazil actually
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederados
Wrong war 😂❤
And to the Post-Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt:
Germans escape to Argentina
Confederates escape to brazil
One family left Virginia with their wealth and bought a large estate in San Gabriel , California. A little boy was raised there who met an old family friend.....Confederate Cavalry commander John S. Mosby....the " Grey Ghost" who General Lee held in high regard. The boy rode horses and reenacted Civil War battles with the old veteran, who told of the heroics of his grandfather at Gettysburg, and his great uncle at Winchester. Filled with the military spirit of his ancestors, this boy became General George S. Patton, our best battlefield commander of WWII...
Patton kept getting defeated by an under funded and poorly staffed force in North Africa
Yes. Mosley was a great influence on Patton.
Your family owns Black people REPARATIONS for 250 years of no pay...
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Patton's grandfather (George S. Patton) was a Colonel in the 22nd Virginia Infantry Regiment who died in September 1864 at the Third Battle of Winchester.
My great-great-grandfather emigrated with his wife from Germany to Connecticut, just in time for the war. He joined the Union army and was captured, surviving his time in Andersonville prison.
He'd be shocked at how racist people still are.
Respect to your great great grandfather. The hell experienced as a prisoner at Andersonville is incomprehensible to most people alive today. It’s a miracle that anyone survived the conditions there.
Yes a lot of Men coming to America gun's were thrust into their hands with the promise of citizenship if they served the Union.
Discussting if you ask me!
@@volumecorps8086 try being a slave back then
slavery was & still reamins doctrine of the anti-American DEMOCRATS
“Change of plans boys, Mexico is looking kinda fine” Confederates, 1865.
Never let Americans settle on your empty territory. They’ll start revolution and take it with them.
Also by this point Mexico was about to win it civil war thank to supply and support from the united state
Mighty fine sounds more southern
Don't forget Brazil, as there is town in Brazil that worship the confederates because so many confederates went there.
@@waffle6376 And they got kicked out after the French were forced to retreat so they could lose against the Prussians, even the anti-Liberal forces hated the Confederate settlers.
I would love to see what happened to Hessian soldiers following the Revolutionary War.
Didn't they just go home????
Are is it surprisingly more complex and a story about bravery,betrayal, and sacrifice?
A lot of them made a life in the United States
A lot of them stayed in the USA. It's a common backstory for the last name "Hess".
I’m just guessing but I believe 1/3 went back to the HRE, 1/4 stayed, and the rest died in combat or disease.
Frederick County in MD was settled by former Hessian Mercenaries after the war as there was a strong population of German immigrants there
In my case, after my GG grandfather was KIA in Virginia, his wife soon died leaving two orphans who were fostered out to relatives in SW Virginia. Most in the family had lost everything and so moved west to Missouri and farming. The orphans remained, and one of those boys was my great grandfather. The devastation was nearly complete.
how devastating it was for the SLAVES???
What exactly do you propose to do about that Pierre?@@pierrerochon7271
Cope
CSA was crushed. COPE lol@@sampson1377
@@pierrerochon7271he never mentioned him owning slaves. Most people didn’t. Weird assumption.
The history of the buildup to and progression after the Civil War is absolutely fascinating. Thank you!
There was one incorrect thing I noticed in this video. When talking about the readmission of former Confederate states to the Union, the animation showed a number of flags, including Tennessee's. In fact, Tennessee was the only seceding state to be readmitted before the Civil War was over (after being effectively occupied in 1864). That meant it did not go through the process of Reconstruction with the other ten that did..
My great x4 grandfather enlisted in the Confederate Army in late 1861 and was captured just days before Lee’s surrender. After the war, he went back to his farm in North Carolina. He died in the early 1900s after his plow hit something and came back and knocked him in the stomach. I’ve always found it ironic he survived the war and a northern prison camp and a farming accident is what got him.
@@mrbigstufableou're a jerk, you know that. If you think all confederates were racist, slave owners or awful people your wrong. Not everyone in the south owned slaves. My family is from Alabama and we were always too poor to own slaves.
@@mrbigstufablewhat is that supposed to mean? He was no "trash". No plantation owner. He was a simple farmer
@@mrbigstufablewhoa hold it right there buddy
@@mrbigstufable we don't need people like you
@@mrbigstufable - He was a fellow American. He shouldn’t have been killed.
Something interesting about Longstreet is due to his open critique of Lee, he was not invited to the Confederate Army reunion. Despite that, he still arrived wearing his old uniform. He received a standing ovation.
He was also warmly received by President Davis at the same event.
Longstreet is not listening to his royalness!! lmao , would have done the same !! he must have been a relation of my family !!
@@ameliaannhouck2670 supposedly, my family is distantly related to General Lee so cheers
Pete Longstreet was arguably the very best of the Officer Corps in the rebel army.
@@russby3554 do you not mean General Lee not General Law??? or just a smarty pants?
My Great Grandfather was a young boy in the Confederate Army and was captured in Mississippi. He was sent to Camp Douglas in Illinois. He survived until the war was over and was released. If Confederate soldiers signed an allegiance to the Union Army they were given transportation home and could be later called into service with the Union Army. My great grandfather refused to sign and was released he had to walk home to Mississippi on his own.
He was so real for that
Very similar to my own great, great grandfather’s story. Member of the MS 41st Regiment, captured at Chickamauga, sent to Ft. Douglas, refused to sign, and walked home to North MS. He was a farmer and went back to farming after it was all over.
Lol.
Legend
How old was he?
Glad you did a video on this, not something I've thought about before
My great great grandfather went back to his home in Louisiana and continued farming. He married and raised 12 children. On the other side of my family (union side), he went home but due to his wounds, he became a store owner instead of returning to farming. In other words, they went back to their lives and lived it.
they went ? where? you didnt finish.
@@WaveRider1989 Missouri
Your great-great-grandfather was a traitor and he's burning in hell, I hope you know that.
That's typically what happens after wars if you survive 😊
@@DaBeezKneez Exactly my point, life goes on.
My grandfather knew two Civil War veterans, one Union and one Confederate. The past isn't as long ago as we think!
My Parents knew some too. One of them was my G. Granpa. He was wounded and captured at the Ft. Fisher battle and sent to pt lookout Maryland until he was released 2 months after the war…
I'm Facebook friends with a woman whose great-uncle was in the Battle of Little Big Horn on the Reno Hill defense site. She remembers her Uncle Charlie well.
There's also a CZcams video with audio recorded with one of the buglers who was in the Charge of the Light Brigade playing the Charge! call on the instrument he used that day. Amazing.
Met them at a Klan.meeting no doubt
More time has now past from the end of WWII than what separates that war from the Civil War.
My dad had a neighbor who was a union veteran. The guy even went to talk to my dad's 1st grade class. This would have been around 1940. The veteran was in his 90's. You are right it was not that long ago.
Thank you for sharing this video. It is very informative and full of historical details.
I found this video totally fascinating.
Hey Armchair Historian could you do a WW1 episode from the Belgian or Ottoman Perspective? I think it would be an interesting topic.
Greek perspective would be interesting too, since there was a national schism that split the country in 2 for a bit.
I second this.
Or an irish/estonian perspective 👉👈🥺
Bulgarian perspective would be fire
@@extantfellow46so true
Besides Longstreet, another notable Confederate officer who turned against the political class of the South and joined the Republican Party after the war was John S Mosby. During the Civil War, Mosby had risen to the rank of colonel, led his own regiment of light cavalry was extremely successful in using hit and run tactics to harry and impede the efforts of Union forces in Virginia. He was so successful that Grant had to tie up 14,000 Union troops to guard railways and supply lines from attacks by Mosby's Raiders. Ironically after the war he became good friends with Grant and helped campaign for him and other Republican politicians in the South. Mosby's political career also became tied to his former adversary, especially when Grant ascended to the presidency. As a result Mosby was appointed as the US Consul to Hong Kong in 1878, and would later get a high position in the Department of Justice when he returned home. Just like Longstreet, Mosby received lots of angry letters and death threats from Confederate sympathizers. He once wrote how he had been treated with more kindness and humility by his former enemy (Grant) than by other ex-Confederates.
Mosby was one of the handful (literally you could probably count them on your hands) of ex-Confederates who was actually honest about the war being about slavery and criticized the Lost Cause myth going around.
That's the reason they're my favorite figures of the Civil War: superb soldiers during the war, exceptional men of character after it.
@@pyro104everAmen!
Grant went to West Point with several Southern Generals in the Confederate Army. He was a fair and understanding solider. He did not want punishment for the South. Southerners could not vote after the war so the Northerners moved South to benefit from Reconstruction. KKK was response to their corruption. Later the (KKK) was taken over by violent faction of the population. Mosby was a great tactician. Don't know if Mosby owned slaves. Fascinating stories of the civil war. Poor Sherman got shipped off to the wild West. Only 10-14% of Southern soldiers owned slaves. That tells me, like most wars, the rich benefit and the average Joe does the fighting. Only good thing about the Civil War was freeing of slaves.
@@williambryson8894 The KKK was made up of largely “average joes” who were angry at black people getting rights.
This makes a lot of sense. Great video. In general we cover wars in school but we never get all the angles like The Historian. Probably a grey area in history for most Americans. Great video. ❤
Great video, very nicely done.
My great great great great grandpa was a officer in P.G.T Beauregard's army and at the end of the war they were in Richmond. While coming back home i guess he got tired of walking so instead of coming back to his family in Louisiana he got him another wife in Georgia.
Based AF😂
So he’s an automatic loser
We love those old great great great great grandpas that literally start new bloodlines for no reason other than that they were tired and/or horny.
@@DingusTheArtistor in this case both of them
@@thomasdubbeldeman3864 I'm willing to bet that one of us is here only because of that lol.
In light of recent events, It would be neat if The Amrchair Historian can focus on one year in particular of the Reconstruction period. That is the year 1874. A lot of election disputes and gubernatorial coup attempts. The Coke Davis affair in Texas. The Brooks-Baxter Affair in Arkansas. The Battle of Liberty Place in Louisiana that James Longstreet participated and was injured in and the Election Massacre of 1874 in Alabama.
Longstreet was blind drunk at the battle of liberty place if he hadn't been drunk he couldve convinced his former troops to stand down.
And the 1873 Colfax massacre that created the white leagues that resulted in the various election massacres throughout the south
God the comment sections on those will be filled with the brain damaged history deniers. I would love that
In light of recent events, the government should have followed through with 40 acres and a mule. As it stands, reparations are still owed, and will come at a much higher cost. They had another opportunity with the homestead act. Yet again, the US government failed black citizens. They allowed foreign immigrants to settle millions of acres, while blacks were prohibited. Then yet again, black WW2 soldiers were refused the GI Bill.
@@Al-Rudigor Do it. Give blacks huge sums in reparations. See what happens. Dave Chappelle knew.
my great grandfather served in the confederate army cavalry from 1861 to near the wars end. he was wounded at least once. after surrender he moved to England then onto Australia where he married and ran a small business for many years. he fathered my grandfather in 1896 at the age of 60 who went on to fight for the Aussie army in WW1. he died when my grandfather was a young child in the early 1900's.
I often wonder if any rebel descendants have artifacts (that are super rare) from the confederate army😊
Amazing story. Especially the end 😊
Great educational video.
A lot of modern US problems seem to trace back to the aftermath of the civil war. It's easy to imagine how different things might have been had Lincoln or someone actually opposed to slavery been in charge rather than Johnson. Truly a missed opportunity.
Edit: And before people starts going crazy, yes I know Lincoln was in fact a moderate republican at odds with the radical republicans. He would still have been considerably less lenient compared to Johnson.
Yeah, Johnson was a jackass. From what I'm told, he despised the South for how they treated him when he was growing up.
The Federal Congress had the right to enforce the three post war reconstruction amendments, the right of blacks (and whites) to vote regardless of race, the right to enforce equal rights before the law, and the end of slavery and involuntary servitude, and had the original right in the 1789 constitution to enforce republican government, which could have been used for such good. The Congress also had the right to define judicial authority in case the Supreme Court ever tried to pull off another Dredd Scott a second time, and remember that the Supreme Court had literally applied judicial review to acts of congress to declare them void on two instances up to that point, Marbury vs Madison and Dredd Scott itself, so that was hardly a strong precedent that courts could void federal laws like that. And the Congress could also have worded their amendments to provide for more universal suffrage, simply declaring that no qualifications be added to voting besides being a citizen as the 14th amendment defines it who was 21 or older, and at the time, being a male, to preclude anything like the disenfranchisement laws that would come to be passed.
Indeed. With the failure of Reconstruction, the old oligarchic political system inherited from slavery maintained its strength in the South well into the 20th century, holding the region back socially, politically, and economically.
@@souvikrc4499 The Tsar abolished serfdom, the South created serfdom.
The US would have been ahead of 100 years and so many problems would have been avoided. No terrorist organizations such as the Klan, no poor and illiterate blacks fleeing northward and reviving segregationist sentiments in northern cities, no ghettoes, no red lining and no crack epidemic.
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Did you catch the Homer Simpson character in the video?
@@sunlightpictures8367 I did
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Good summary.
Thank you
Excellent work here Sir
I've read a couple of books about this topic and I've seen Canada, Mexico, Egypt and Brazil listed as places that Confederates went after the Civil War. But that's few and far between. Most Confederates did the same thing Union soldiers did. They went home back to their farms and families, often on foot. In a lot of cases there wasn't much left to go back to but they went back and slowly rebuilt their lives.
Went back home and built a society with bricks of racism.
There are very few generals from the south who came to Egypt after the war, and usually again, they were there to work and not to reside in Egypt. They returned when Egypt later failed to pay their salaries.
I’m surprised that the confederate Lieutenant’s that went to Brazil Didn’t also Hide in the part of Argentina where I heard that Hitler actually Hide Decades after he lost The War in WW2 in Germany 🇩🇪!
And started chummy clubs like the KKK and terrorized and lynched former slaves.
The confederates even created a city here in Brazil: Americana, in the state of São Paulo.
U.S. descendency is big in Parnamirim, a city in the metro region of Natal in the state of Rio Grande do Norte.
This second city was a base for Navy vessels in the second world war. It's one of the closest points to Europe in the american continent
Brazilian Confederados never fail to fascinate me, as somebody with Confederate heritage.
I actually saw a documentary on them. It was so weird to watch it.
@@gregme5601 Jimmy Carter paid a visit to the area during the festival when he was president. He said they speak Portuguese with a perfect deep Southern Accent.
They're aware of their ancestry but they've modernized and aren't bad folks. Just like the German enclaves in Brazil, yes most are descended from Nazis but they're not responsible for what their family members did. Sometimes people need to accept that the world has changed and stop focusing on the past and actually learn from it.
@rwdyeriii Brazil's banned Confederate symbols lol, they're government is literally run by a Marxist
@@rwdyeriii i mean just about anywhere in south america they're not dealing with this crap.
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Being from MS I’m gonna say it didn’t effect my family too much because we were so poor we had to work our own fields. My husbands family was the same.
But your people still had more rights than blacks. Being poor doesn’t take away from the fact the your family was still privileged in other ways.
@@cedricnicholson7446 People like you really shouldn't be talking at all. Like AT ALL.
@@redline1916 Thank you!!!
@@cedricnicholson7446 I guess if you consider having to raise your own garden and animals in order to feed your family. They used an out house. Have you ever used one? I have many times. Not sure how privileged that is. Before my family came to the US they were slaves overseas. And the women were beaten and raped regularly. I guess we were privileged enough to know we didn’t want to own slaves because they had already experienced it themselves.
@@redline1916why? Who would you rather be in the mid 1800s? A white sharecropper or a black slave?
James Longstreet only criticized Lee about his aggressiveness at Gettysburg, but as a man he did not attack Lee. Lee even called Longstreet his old war horse.
Also you left out the important part of Forrest being a civil rights activist in 1870s.
Beauregard defending equal rights.
Mosby being an diplomat for Ulysses.
And so on.
And despite Longstreet's "defection" to the Republican Party after the war, he later reconciled with his old comrades, even embracing with his post-war rival Jefferson Davis at a ceremony in Atlanta in 1886.
Longstreet was a scapegoat for Lee's shortcomings at Gettysburg.
Also completely glossed over why Nathan Bedford Forrest joined the kkk, why over 50,000 joined the kkk. Because it was to be a militia to protect southerners during occupation. The union troops had an order to please themselves to anything they wanted.
Also Nathan became a major civil rights activist. Propaganda is not good.
“Abolish the Loyal League and the Ku Klux Klan;
let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict.” - Nathan Bedford Forrest
Ah, so the lesson to be learned is that Lee was honorable? And so what? He was still a monster who fought to uphold a system that trampled on the rights of almost ten million people. He killed thousands in the protection of slavery. Lee is not a man to be spoken fondly of. He should've been shot.
@@lewisjennings9043they didn’t reconcile… Pendleton and Early blamed Longstreet to there dying day. They didn’t even include him reunions.
I had family who fought on both sides. My 3rd grandpa, Roland Sutherland, fought with the 38th Alabama, infantry, and my 3rd great-grandfather Wilie Jones fought for the 12th Tennessee Calvary, which was a Union unit. Their grandchildren are my great-grandparents. I bet thanksgivings and Christmas dinners were very interesting.
My great great grandfather fought. Once it ended I was told he got on with life, if he died I wouldn’t be here. God bless him. He was a young man told to fight.
The War did not end with Lee's surrender. Grant wanted Lee to surrender the entire Confederacy. Lee told Grant at Appomattox that he only had the authority to surrender the Army of Northern Virginia and that is what Lee did. A few weeks later Johnston surrendered to Sherman. Alabama surrendered during mid May, a few days after Davis was captured near Irwinville, Georgia. Kirby-Smith surrendered the Transmissisippi at the end of May through Magruder and signed the papers himself on June 2, 1865. Stand Wattie surrendered in Oklahoma during late June, 1865.
Thank you for pointing that out, although many will simply dismiss it because it is simpler to believe the surrender was a one and done. Kind of like celebrating June 16th as the end of slavery, although slavery continued for months afterward in certain states. History is never as clean as we remember it.
@@MICHAEL-vy3ch Juneteeth is a complete myth and total nonsense. The Emancipation Proclamation was mlitary measure issued under Lincoln's war powers. We know this because the document says so. In addition it only applied in areas the North did not control, even going to far as to list certain exempt areas in Southern states by county. The War was ended by Kirby-Smith's surrender prior to General Taylor showing up in Texas. Therefore, the North controlled the Transmississippi including Texas when Taylor showed up and the EP would not have applied, even assuming the EP had any validity when The War ended. Stand Watte surrendered in Oklahoma the following June, but OK was not state of the USA until 1907. It was never a Confederate state so far as I ever discovered. Wattie was Cherokee Indian and not exactly a regular soldier in the Confederate Army. In addition Lincoln slapped down Freemont for declaring all slaves free in Missouri during mid 1862 because as a soldier he had no authority to free anyone. Taylor was a West Pointer, not a political general and former lawyer as many of them were, so he would not have had a clue that he had no authority to free anyone, especially based upon a document that had no force and effect once The War ended and never applied at any time to areas under Northern control.
There was also a question as to whether the EP was valid at all since it changed the definition of private property. Stephens brought that up to Lincoln at the City Point Peace Conference during February, 1865. Lincoln said that after The War the US Sup Ct could sort it out. Lincoln wanted to issue the EP earlier in the year in 1862 but Seward told him to wait for a battlefield victory so it would not look like a desperation move. The cabinet then laughed that Lincoln "freed the slaves where he had no authority to do so (the areas under "rebelion") but did not where he did have authority to do it (in the Border States). The EP was Lincoln's Hail Mary pass designed to disrupt the manpower situation of the South.
Slavery ended during December 1865 when the 13th Amendment was ratified. Kentucky, which fought for the North and where slavery was legal, did not ratify the 13th Amendment until 1976, (NOT 1876).
As for the Amendments, the 13th freed the former slaves, the 14th made them citizens, and the 15th gave them the right to vote. The Due Process language in the 14th Amendment was used during the mid 1900s to apply to numerous matters for which it was never intended. That is why US Sup Ct Justice Clarence Thomas recently made reference to reviewing such cases.
As for Juneteenth, if anyone wants to celebrate the end of slavery and have a holiday for that, go have at it. But making up nonsense and creating a national holiday for something based on a non understanding of the facts and legal concepts is ridiculous. Have your holiday in December where it belongs. It also strikes me that we now have a holiday based on one part of the country opposing the other. That does not sound very inclusive to me. We also somehow conviently forget that every Confederate had his US citizenship returned to him, with the exception of Jefferson Davis.
But Josey Wales never surrender😂
@@jslade60 You must be a honors graduate of the public schools. Congratulations.
They still lost. period. The Army of Northern Virginia was the backbone of the Confederacy`s military. and what happens if you break somebody`s backbone? Right, he`s crippled and at your mercy.
My Mother's side of the family had a store in Appomattox right next to where Lee and Grant signed the papers. They later moved to Giles County Va.
Great vid
In my opinion, I'm Brazilian, it's a very important video because I never heard that the Brazilian Empire brought the confederates to my country. Thanks The Armchair Historian to bring that to light and keep up the good work!
Festa Dos Confederados
It's because us South Americans have more in common with the Southerners than the Yankees.
I'm not sure how I'd feel if I was a safe haven for confederates and even worse, Nazis. Well their ideologies mostly died out and got replaced with football and big butt obsessions so I got no problems with Brazil.
@@awfan221 Both ideologies never got widespread roots in my country: confederates came here because of slavery still being practiced until 1888 and the nazi came because of Vargas's facists tendencies. Soccer is a "religion" for many Brazilians and people tend to be sensual in my country.
Thankfully their actual racist attitudes seem to be dying out. As a fellow Brazilian I was surprised to see black and mixed race people celebrating the Festa dos Confederados
The homer lookalike disappearing into the money bags at 6:35, bravo 👏🏻👏🏻
My ancestors fought for the south in the war and my great grandma told me they went back to their farms in Missouri and continued life as normal. None of them owned slaves at any point so they worked the whole farm on their own. I went to where the property was to find the house and barn were still there and saw how where the fields were located. Just outside of Stover MO to the east you can see the property. It’s pretty cool.
Similarly, after WWII, no one in Austria had supported Hitler, the Nazis, or Anschluß.
Not sure the exact percentage, but the vast majority of Confederate troops did not own many if any slaves. Slave holdings could grant exemption from service in fact. This sadly is forgotten by many. Most Southern didn’t care about slavery but being abused and told what to do, as well as Northern industrialists trying to buy and destroy their land (ironic as that’s what happened after the war).
Didn’t own but fought for his masters to keep slaves
@@plymouth491funny how that works, suddenly no one was even aware about what they were fighting for or what their government is doing when the yanks show up
@@weirdshitcoolideas It's been the same for millennia. The elite start a war over an issue that affects them, and then through propaganda, threats, or brainwashing get the little man to fight their wars for them. Not defending slavery, but the southern soldier was told it was about state's rights, and that they were superior. This is a common tactic for governments to use. History repeats itself all the time.
In a local town here in Co. Antrim, Northern Ireland. There is a Union soldier buried in one graveyard and a confederate soldier buried in another.
armchair historian animators casually gave me the most terrifying depiction of the K.K.K i've ever seen
Democrats never change
@@col.cottonhill6655 but they did lol
@@greatgrungustwo904 nope. They're still just as racist.
@@col.cottonhill6655 they are the notoriously more inclusive and progressive side.
@@greatgrungustwo904 to the detriment of the people theyre pandering to.
It wasn't just the "abolition of slavery" that collapsed the Southern economy. It was also the deaths of hundreds of thousands of young men, and then the other hundreds of thousands that were crippled by injuries.
And the robberies of wealthy sountern landowners during " Reconstruction" which was really a great " Reset" what the govt is trying now to give White Southerners Belongings to illegal immigrants.
The total destruction of their land and property didn’t help
Thank God for small favors
And this would have been the perfect time to defeat everyone...you better thanks God black soilders wasn't on that
@@koryburdet1317
There have been black soldiers since the Revolutionary War. Look up Newport, Rhode Island 1st Regiment. And what do you mean by "defeat everyone"?
My 4th great grandfather fought for the confedacy he enlisted in may 1861 with the 16th Georgia infantry and fought the whole war with the Army of northern Virginia after the war he moved to Arkansas and got 205 acres of land
Excellent!!
Random fact: This CZcams channel has existed longer than the Confederacy
iT’s mUh hEriTagE
@@somehistorynerd it is their heritage though.
We could say the same thing about Kurdistan and the state/country for the Karen (ethnicity) people.
@@jstos3675Like the Nazies are Germany’s heritage.
@@Justin-pe9clmuh natseez
My great great great grandfather served in the Confederate Army in the infantry, and then the cavalry, he was from Georgia, then later moved to Texas, years after the Civil War ended.
My 3rd great grandfather also served for the confederates in infantry and was from Tennessee
2:42
Inb4 retards with no ancestoral ties to the civil war start screeching "he wuz a traytor!!11!"
respect to him
😒the word you are looking for is "traitor", "racist". See what happens when you appease sadistic psychopathic racists and religious zealots?
Google these exact words click images. "Class photo of Congressional Republicans". Spot the racist. Hint, they're all white
The Confederate Outlaw Jose Whales says.. NO Surrender ! Its a great Clint Eastwood Movie
I somehow kept forgetting to watch for more then a month
My Great Great Great Uncle fought for the Confederates in Tennessee he was from Texas. He was shot but he survived I have several other family members that fought on both sides and they had different last names but some had the same.
God bless them all.
your traitor grandpa should have been executed by the federal government
@@MrRAGE-md5rj Thank you. 👍🙏
I had great great great grandparents in Georgia and Texas. They were alive and adults during the civil war. Wonder if they fought?
I had relatives that fought on both sides also.
Not a lot of people talk about what happened to them afterwards, Nice!
I had known Grant gave Lee generous terms at Appomattox, I hadn't known the idea came from Lincoln, but makes sense give then "with malice towards none, with charity towards all" attitude
...for an "armchair" historian, you have a good set of arms...keep up the good work...!
Heyo! I'm from a region in Canada (Eastern Townships, Quebec) where many ex Confederates settled after the war. Found it interesting that you mentioned J. Davis' capture, but not his subsequent exile to Canada (Lennoxville, Quebec) where his children were eventually educated (Bishop's College School). Another regional landmark is the "Hovey Manor" in North Hatley Quebec (15 min drive from Lennoxville), which was built to the specs of a Southern Plantation since many southerners lived in the area following the US Civil War. The manor today is occasionally a summer vacation spot for diplomats and Democrat vacationers (Clintons and Chriac visited there a couple times).
Never learned that in school, not suprised. I also recently learned from personal reading that we had a branch of the KKK in Oakville Ontario, which isn't too far from me. There don't appear to be any records of lynchings or killings, but they did bully and threaten mixed race couples. The KKK members included police officers, teachers, a couple pastors/preachers, and a few health professionals. Spooky!
Wow. Didn't know the clientele had fallen that low.
Yes Jefferson Davis took refuge in Montréal after the war at a certain time.
Another Canadian, I respect all Americans, south north and the confederate flag, fly it if you can.. the democrats declared war on history, states, flags and the people, stand up to Biden's Gestapo...
Democrats Graceland!
We’re still here, and we haven’t forgot.
Truer words have never been spoken and that's from a Black Man.
forgotten what? about your loss?
My GG Grandfather was in the Virginia 21st Infantry Co. E. Buckingham Leaches. Wounded twice at Gettysburg. Died 1906 Buried in Richmond’s Hollywood Cemetery.
The part about Brazil was the most fascinating imo.
I always enjoy seeing people reenact historical events, it's those who try to justify the wrongs that happened back then, that aren't appreciated.
We must always remember but never justify such evil and always remember that while the government committed evil. the generals like Lee and Jackson and the men fighting under them should be looked at honorable and with respect
@@TexasNationalist1836 The generals like Lee and Jackson fought to justify those evils. So how can they be considered honorable?
@@TexasNationalist1836Yeah, I’m not giving any respect to traitors.
@@TexasNationalist1836commiting treason to fight for slavery is not as honourable as you think.
@@TexasNationalist1836 I understand and respect someone fighting for a good cause, or for his county, but sadly many Confederate soldiers were duped by their leaders who just wanted to preserve the institution of slavery.
There was no threat to the way of life for the average southerner, yet they saw it as such, and I hope lessons have been learned
The South essentially shot themselves in the foot after the end of the war. Virginia, where I’m from, and the rest of the South had a huge population of semi-skilled and skilled labor in the former slaves that could have done wonders to rebuild. We could have re-started industry at a much faster pace and created a large middle class to pay taxes, buy property, goods, and contribute to the prosperity of the entire south. Instead we crippled our economy for decades and still lag behind northern states in economic prosperity to this day because we couldn’t let go of the hate and bigotry. When you hold a people down you are force to hold yourself down with them.
And it was the attitude of white southerners post Civil War that held back their region of America, through racism, violence.
Many things could have been better for both poor blacks and poor whites if Reconstruction had kept on.
LoL hate to tell you 4 states in the southeast now have a larger GDP than the entirety of the northeast.
See southern states with an explosion of migration over the last three years bc democrats were so heavy handed with covid. 300k to Texas in a year alone.....but we're the tyrannical asshats I guess.
@@ikematthews6866 wow no way! The majority of corporations and banks that handle money make line go up!
Nice history! Had to close my eyes. Graphics are slow & weird - distracting. But without the distractions, I learned a lot!
The little town of San Fernando Tamulipes Mexico , which is about 130 miles south of McAllen Texas. You see many stores with English names , Johnson , Smith Lee . It is a farm town growing Sorgrum and Corn . Former Confederates
I used to work in a retirement center when I was in high school, and met a tenant there who talk to me some of the others about the his past and he did mention he had past relatives who served with the Union. Very interesting, this show is bringing back memories of that cool old man.
As per the Primary Source of the U.S. federal Census of 1860--just before The War of Northern Aggression was commenced in 1861, Mississippi was NOT the poorest State in America (as it has been since 1865), but the richest--with a per capita income of $2200 per annum--over twice that of the nearest yankee state of Connecticut (~$980) and three times that of New York State (~$690), which of course definitively confirms that UNNECESSARY war was for Power, Control and Money--NOT to help black folk, slave or free!! (As are most all wars of this Planet Pathos [aka Planet Earth].) I am a 7th Generation native Mississippian materially. Read the definitive classic best-seller "The South Was Right!" [1994, Kennedy & Kennedy]
Imagine actually having to pay your farm workers🎻🥺
Sharecropping ended up being cheaper for plantation owners than slavery was after the war 😅
Businesses still have trouble with this in this day and age, preferring to outsource manufacturing to cheap overseas country 😂
@@metalgearray6832 Yup when you learn about the factory farms who take illegal immigrants and basically go back to the company store model where you don't pay them actual money. And of course if they rebel there is the threat of deportation.
Grant did not when he used slave labor to build his barn. Look it up.
@@als3022 Then get a legal work Visa.
11:35 no way they made a mcnuggernuggets reference
Two of my third great grandfathers and one of my fourth great grandfathers served in the confederate army. They all survived the war. They served in the 60th Virginia infantry.
We’ll never forget that Confederates are traitors and white supremacists 🇺🇸
@@zenever0 Confederates were and are DEMOCRATS. Does that mean you're a traitor? WHy would anybody call themselves after the party of SLAVERY?
So excited to see another Civil war video. I hope that we'll get to see more of them in the near future :D
I have a feeling 2024 will be a historic year! 😄
In the game red dead redemption 2, a gang consisting of former Confederate soldiers spread out into the state of lemonye a fictional state in the united states of America, they call themselves the lemonye raiders, they are heard to be former Confederate soldiers thinking that the war is not over yet, their source of economy is arms dealing, stealing and raiding etc
Greatest story game ever made
Well they know the war is over but they kept fighting, and they eventually turned into a guerilla force.
@@jackp.richardson6415so the war never ended then. Because as long as thos brave men fought. The confederacy never fell.
Typical criminals
@@patricianoftheplebs6015 Rockstar has always taken the "public school" route when it comes to historical events. And their hatred of the confederates is plain to see. Vice city Stories, much as I love that game, really hated the southerners in that one.
Lincoln didnt believe mass punishments were the right move considering his goal was peace. Which is the reason he wanted to pardon Lee and other confederate generals. Grant agreed and he had a favorable view of Lee after the war. Lee wanted Grant to speak at Virginia college during grant's presidency but the invitation was lost in transit. When grant learned of the invitation later on, he offered to speak at the college himself.
Japan took the same approach during the Meiji Restoration and the fall of the Tokugawa Shogunate.
Some of us are still proudly here and ain't going anywhere
My mothers great grandfather left the country and moved to the Caribbean after the war.I never knew this until my aunt told me the story and my mother acknowledged that it was factual. They gave me his name and I looked it up in the CSA records. Sure enough there he was listed as a Lt in a Georgia regiment. My mother also gave me a US 1/2 dollar coin minted in 1863 with his initials engraved on it. They passed away at the age of 98 and 94 over 20 years ago.
That Homer Simpson reference killed me.
very useful videos. The Armchair Historian always knows what people want
2nd lieutenant Richard Armstrong of the CSS Alabama moved to Halifax, Nova Scotia with many expats. Many lived in a place called the Confederate Hotel.
My 3times great grand father returned home and was elected sheriff of Sumter co in Georgia,built furniture and farming.Cap Shepherd Green Pryor.
James Longstreet also served as the US Minister to Turkey in Grant's administration. He and Grant had been friends before the war, and some sources say he was the best man at Grant's wedding. Longstreet was a distant cousin of Juila Dent, Grant's wife, as his own mother was a Dent.
Really simplistic. The violence in some areas, like Mississippi, started before the war ended. In places along the Mississippi River the US Colored Troops were made up of men who had lived and been enslaved in the same area. The home guard and civilian marauders were also local. After spending years fighting each other a lot of them settled in the same communities. There were very few post war live and let live reunions anywhere in the country, but within the deep south the division was even more stark and violent than you make it seem.
Yeah...real similar to the mass burning of blacks alive in New York City during the war-time draft riots.
Indeed, but unfortunately for these crowds details and nuances are not available as options. Silverlining says "slavery" that's what it is then.
TRUE- UPDATE - STILL DOWNPLAY VIOLENCE AGAINST BLACKS- Meet the new south - SAME as the old south!!
Yeah seriously weird how "historinians" want to sweep how truly awful things were. As a Canadian who's interested in that time period it's quite obvious the "northern narrative" was just used to justify an absolutely pointless and stupid war. The reality is the civil war was absurdly unnecessary good old economics would have removed slavery from the equation within a generation. The way slavery ended, meant white southerners had an intense resentment of blacks. So they were freed and in the same day they were instantly the occupying "force" of their enemy. If slavery was wiped out using good old fashioned capitalism(it was almost everywhere else), there would have been a much much better path to integration. The civil war literally made things much worst, was one of the stupidest wars in history.
Yeah lets just continue the human traficking until capitalism makes it go away. Because all the capitalism in the world theres no such thing as human traficking today! Thank god for capitalism! Solomon northup was just a corrupt Northern propagandist liar! @@dixonhill1108
My great great grandfather moved to Mexico and back to Louisiana many years later.
6:30 Even Homer Simpson's great-grandfather got in on the action
My great great great grandpa was also from Louisiana. Apparently he hated the union so much he escaped a prison to continue fighting. He promptly realized he quite enjoyed the company of Union soldiers and was captured until the end of the war. Though a leg injury from a cannonball might have played a larger role.
May he burn in hell that racist rat!
And is in Hell.
@@sj-du2yo no, he's dead. Why would he be in Hell,Michigan..
Super happy I stumbled upon this site! I love history and I didn't know all of what took place after the Civil War. Being born and raised in upstate NY, these were not taught to us! Thank you for your hard work, you got a new subscriber🙂
" the poor old South" is what I heard coming up in the North. Whenever someone mentioned the South, they would always prefaced it with that remark. This video explains why.
So no mention of Northern states policies on blacks. It differed by state, but included public flogging for residing too long in the state, no legal work, no entry, etc.
Let's not forget that Jeff Davis lived in Montreal; which had become the financial capital of the Confederacy. He later moved his family to Lennoxville, Quebec, to attend Bishop's College. Generals Early and Picket lived in Ontario. Thousands of Confederates settled north of thr US border.
It's disgusting that the descendent of Francis Scott Key was imprisoned (for things printed in a newspaper) in the same fort that inspired the writing of the star spangled banner
They put my ancestor there too as a POW, after they held him in NY at Elmira. He was 43rd VA, and he was 17-18 years old. They were going to execute him as a bushwhacker, but he was ultimately released in I think '67.
MORE DISGUSTING- SLAVERY
Wow, so much of that was not covered in high school history class! Thanks for covering this topic.
I'm truly not surprised because it's essentially saying that "Nothing changed."
Frankly though it should be since it explains the need for the Civil Rights Movement
U probably went to Robert E. LEE HS- THEY LEFT OUT THIS PART- U LOST THE WAR- LOL
I've had clothes that lasted longer than the confederacy
really enjoying the step away from WW2 videos
My family after the civil war was lucky enough to have some money left over and managed to buy a small bit of land deeper south, like most families post war, most just went back to share cropping.
Dumb sharecroppers fought the rich white owners war - so the system was indentured servants and slaves - and they still glorify it- like the Magas now. -hmmmm
My gr-grandmother and her brother walked to Texas, married a Confederate, had children, told her daughter, my grandmother, pre-war stories which she told me.
Very Nice 💪💪💪
Glad you're doing different history topics, keep working hard!
Before the war, my Great Great Granddaddy was a farmer. He was wounded at the Battle of Riddles Shop VA in 1864, losing his left arm above the elbow. After being discharged from the army, he went home to Alabama. Since he couldn't farm anymore, he had to find other work. He became the tax assessor for Dekalb County Alabama. He's buried in Gardner cemetery Sulphur Springs AL. Pvt Benjamin Durham Co.I 38th NC Inf.
ok and he was a racist ....
I'm glad your great-grandfather lost his arm. Unfortunately he didn't get a grenade
@@shrim1481cringe as hell 🤡
Bayonet what have been okay? Did your relative own slaves???
Very likely no, he did not own anybody. OP just said he was a farmer, which given only 3-6% of southern whites had slaves means this ancestor was more than likely just an average skilled, poor worker.
“Sic semper tyrannis!!!!”
Might as well get used to saying that again.
WE HAVE NOT GONE ANYWHERE, WE ARE ACTUALLY GREATER THAN BEFORE AND WE ALL SECRETLY KNOW IT.
Amazing video, please do more of this. I would love to see you cover Jim Crow and the civil rights movement.
he might get banned by ron desantis if he did that
@DetroitMuscle Maybe he doesn't want expose on CZcams that your Democratic Party formed the KKK, and some Democratic leaders like Robert C. "Sheets" Byrd, D- WV was a member of the KKK for many, many years of his long political career.
YES, More stuff like this.
“Muh Stand Watie”!!!
Watie lost more engagements than he won and didn’t even slow down Union operations in Indian Territory
Longstreet’s betrayal of Robert E Lee still haunts his memory to this day. .
The homer Simpson joke caught me completely off guard 😂