Crisis Hits RV Manufacturers with MASSIVE earnings losses.
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 22. 06. 2024
- RV sales are plummeting and RV manufacturer profits are tanking. Will the RV industry survive? Can anything be done to save RVing?
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low quality, Bad service, and high prices.
Agreed!
Absolutely
Just retired and was going to buy a towable RV but did not need the stress of gambling with the junk they are producing, so I bought a cargo trailer and built it out myself, life is too short to put up with these greedy RV manufacturers and dealers.
@@jamesderr1344 good for you!!!!
@@jamesderr1344 My first RV could very well be built out by myself also.
Glad the RV companies are feeling the painâŠâŠtheyâre not standing behind their productsâŠ.some of the units fall apart before folks can use themâŠ.then it stays in the shop for months at a time.
Iâm glad CZcamsr (Liz Amazing) is putting these companies on blast about how they are treating their customers just horrible. Thanks for the videoâ€
I love what Liz is doing!
@@AmpedtoGlamp me to and I was looking at RVâS but the stories Iâve been seeing scares meâŠâŠgonna lay low.
We just had a $15,000 bill on our 2023 Newmar Dutch Star -We have had other serious problems with this rig since day 1 -We will NEVER and I mean NEVER buy another one -These things are just junk and we will do other methods of traveling đ€Ż
What? No! That's terrible. I've read in various forums that Newmar quality has been in decline since Winnebago took over. You should get in touch with Liz Amazing.
New to your channel, very insightful analysis and exactly on point! Poor quality RV's are becoming legendary, in a bad way, it is discouraging prospective buyers from coming in and is even resulting in some who have purchased poorly built units to have a bad taste to leave the RV market! The industry motto seems to be "Pay more, get less". What other kind of business is so self-defeating?!
Welcome to our channel. Glad you found us!
I was chatting to a manufacturer rep about 6 months ago (these folks only make class câs) and he was saying that their sales were slowing, class A sales were effectively dead, and trailers were really in trouble. Class Bâs he thought were holding their own, only in that they didnât get to expand production because there was delay in getting a chassis. Biggest challenge on trailer side was way too much inventory..and dealers were going to have sell at costs lower than they purchased. New Class B prices still donât seem to have reduced at all, actually have gone up at least on the ones not owned by the big manufacturers (so folks like Pleasureway, Roadtrek, Panoramic all of whom are smaller, but generally better quality than the large manufacturers ). Quite enjoyed this update, but remember this is to be expected. I donât see any need for concern, actually in my view it is all positive news. When you over produce, charge too much (over $200,000 here in Canada for a motorized product), poor builds and have poor client service at the dealership the market will correct to the positive. Hopefully that will lead to more realistic pricing, better quality (which really seemed to go downhill in the 2020 -2022 period) and service closer to what you can expect when you go to a car dealership.
This industry definitely had some serious growing pains and need to get it together cause its been JUNK
Cutting quality always leads to bankruptcy. Many manufacturers will be going broke. The PE firms will be sweeping in and buying brands at fire sale prices and start back up debt free and run the cycle one more time.
The PE firms are already circling.
Unfortunately the industry has done it to themselves. They make poor quality units with problems right from the factory and then IF they warranty them you could be waiting months for the dealership to repair or sometimes may be forced to take them back to the original manufacture. The entire industry is a disgrace and as I said they have done it to themselves. You tube has also helped warn people in the market of such poor quality.
We're hoping this is a wake up call.
It is a combination of factors leading to a decline in sales. I believe fuel prices are a lions share of the issue. RVs are known gas guzzlers and fuel prices hit the wallet hard. Even a moderate trip of 500 miles is going to hurt. 2, the quality just hasn't been there with RVs post COVID. That is the 500 lb gorilla in the room that the industry has to come to terms with. 3, lack of warranty support and RVs sitting in repair for months. The horror stories are getting out and have made people gun shy to purchase new. A lot of folks are looking at used pre Covid years. Personally, I was looking at a mew B plus but held off on purchasing just because of this very fact. Lastly, the industry needs robust competition from overseas manufactures to shake them out of their slumber and force their hand to produce a more quality product.
I appreciate your usual detailed analysis and review of the RV market. Thank you, Sherri and John, and continued safe, happy travels.đđŸâ€ïžđđŸ
Our pleasure! And thank you for your continued support! đ
This reminds me of the 1970-199? period of American automobile industry. American cars were so badly made and Americans had had enough of it! They voted with their wallets and bought Japanese autos. If the Japanese enter the American RV market, there wonât be an American RV maker left!!!
oh yes, I remember that time.
Back in 2002-2003 we had a custom fiver built by New Horizons in Junction City, KS. Loved it. Spent 3 1/2 years full timing in it. Now, we want to get back on the road part time (Class C, this time). But we are only looking at used units built before the pandemic. We will get whatever we choose inspected by a NRVIA certified inspector. We are doing so because of the widespread reports of quality issues. Quality, safety, reliability: those are what is important. Maybe someday we will buy (or have built) a new RV, but not until the RV industry gets its act together.
Buying a pre pandemic model is a good decision.
Itâs amazing to us as we travel the country just how much inventory RV dealerships have on their lot. We ordered our Alliance in 2021 but our Lance we purchased in 2024 was a 2022 holdover. Hard to imagine them having to hold a unit for 2 years as inventory. They need to bring prices down and increase quality. Great analysis.
It's incredible that dealerships are holding on to models for that long. I hope you got a great deal on 2022! Dealerships are paying for each of the RVs on the lot. At some point they may have to sell at a loss if its not already happening.
Excellent info!!! I think it will get worse still before it gets better! Thank you for the info, great job!
I've anyways considered the RV industry as the 'bellwether' for the economy. They seem to be one of the first to take a hit once the economy seems to struggle. Living in northern Indiana, I usually notice early on due to the occasional local news coverage that becomes more prominent over time. But this time, there's other factors that muddies the water: 1) Covid probably caused the RV sales to spike upward., 2) The quality seems to a huge issue now (but I wonder how many first time buyers are even aware of that issue)., 3) Inflation. It would be interesting to know how much the RV industry expanded over the past 3-4 years and if sales are just returning to normal.
I should add, I don't own a RV but for some odd reason I enjoy watching the RV videos. Keep up the good work.
Interesting to hear the perspective from someone in Indiana. Thank you for sharing. I've heard the RV market has predicted economic downturns. I think it's the same for most higher priced recreational purchases like boats.
Very good points. I be agree Covid had a lot to do with the increase in sales. And RVâing was the flavor of the time.
Weâve owned a number of rigs over 35 years and have seen the cycles. The 2008 housing bust hit RV sales hard as well, and if memory serves, before the bubble burst.
Me too! - "I don't own a RV but for some odd reason I enjoy watching the RV videos"
Iâm not surprised. They need to put a lemon law in place because the industry has gone to crap.
Yes! We agree!
Quality in this industry is horrible. Buying an RV would be a stupid economic decision
Very true! And yes it's a depreciating asset. However I would mind it if the quality matched the price.
You are on point. Yes low quality. Constant breakdowns.
Oh yes. And we just know way too much about breakdowns
Absolutely, it is 100% the poor quality and absent customer service that is preventing me from getting back into RVing. No way am I going down the road of so many terrible stories that I see. The RV manufacturers took total advantage of consumers during COVID and now itâs changed 180 degreesâŠ.karma
Economy,high interest and junk.
What's not imploding in the industry? More expensive lower quality RVs with crappy warranty service/support to start with. Then there is higher interest rates, cost of RV campground spaces + storage and don't forget the outrageous insurance gouging too!
I love your channel, and enjoy your videos.
As a long time rv owner Iâve commented on your channel before. We are on our 8th coach, purchased new three years ago and still love it.
These are just my opinions.
Iâve seen ups and downs before. The RV industry took a big hit in 2008 as well. And in other years.
The growth we saw during Covid was unusual. The âcoolâ thing to do and I never thought it was sustainable and not a lifestyle for everyone.
As you say, some manufacturers will go under, some small dealers selling out. Very Unfortunate, but part of the cycle.
I feel for folks who are trying to sell there rigs now, not a good time. But good deals now if youâre in the market and can handle the interest rates.
Buying? Get an inspection.
Good video. Thank you
Thank you @anthonyb2334. You're spot on with your points!
I was waiting for ypu to mention poor quality. You are spot on.
I was wondering how so many CEOs missed it in their assessment. Or maybe they know and don't want to admit it publicly.
Love your channel btw. Thanks for the update on RVs. Liz Amazing channel tells story after story of RV quality failures. Itâs really sad that people sink so much money into RVs and are stuck with literally junk. Buyers beware but I agree now is probably getting to be a good time to buy. Prices hopefully will drop even further.
We love what Liz Amazing is doing. And, she continues even though some manufacturers are pushing back heard. I have a lot of respect for her. Thanks for you continued support!
You guys are spot on with your reporting and I found the best time to purchase an motorhome is after the new models arrive on the and if they still have brand new 2023s thatâs bargain hunting. Will never buy a brand new motorhome again,to large of a depreciation.
Thank you! And, you are so right. So much value is lost in the first year.
Sherri & John if noone else has mentioned this, you both are truly in your element with this type of coverage and content. We follow quite a few CZcams channels and noone else out there is providing this type of detailed (and fact-based) content. THANK YOU!!! We learn so much from you guys!
Thank you! đ â€ïž. I think you made John blush. We truly appreciate your support!
Great video guys. We knew things were gonna get bad and the deals would be there and now the numbers show just that. Hate to say it but we all saw it coming.
Thank you! đ. Yes, the deals are here but I wouldn't want to buy one.
Big Boo hoo to the manufacturers, give the consumers a better quality for their money. Plus you have a dumb bell president that has run this country into the ground!!!!đą
The warranty start counting right after the manufacturers date, so say bye to your warranty when it sits on the dealers lot.
During Covid, when taking a cruise meant probably getting sick, and flying on planes meant wearing a mask, everyone wanted to be separated / isolated. So RVs and AirBnB exploded. But that all ended 3 years ago. Now everybody is back on airplanes, in hotels, on cruiseships. There's a flood of used units out there and not many willing to pay for the new ones. That, and interest rates are the highest since the 1980s.
That said, this is a great time to be a cash buyer of a gently used 2-10 year old RV.
Very good points!
Thank you. Wow. Good work. Thanks again đđ
Thank you! đ
It cracks me up that some of these dealers think that 30% discount on a '23 is a "blow-out" sale. đđ€Ł
IMHO, part of the reason for slow sales is the bad attitude of the manufacturers towards the consumers when they have warranty issues. GD for example.
On another note, do you think this was a good time for GD to debut their new motorized RV?
Absolutely NOT! That said, they probably planned the debut over a year ago. Maybe they're thinking it will move attention away from the frame flex issue. Don't look in this hand...check out the other one.
Thanks for your insight, great information.
Love you guys, take care.
Thank you! đ
One major reason for RV sales dropping, CZcams star Liz Amazing. Her videos showing the poor quality of new RVâs has scared my family off of purchasing.
She's doing a fantastic job spreading the word!
The state of the industry makes me so sad. Feels like it doesnât have to be as bad as it is; especially when it comes to prices and service. đą Wonderfully informative video. Thanks for sharing with us! đ
It saddens us as well. We want more people to RV but no one wants to spend $$$$ on a poor quality product. Thanks for watching and your support.
We are living in hard times, prices of everything is way to high, I bought a 2018 Toyhauler travel trailer..I look at new RV class a well over $150,000, class b&c are crazy money, I have a big truck 3500 so I went with used 2018 Toyhauler and save money, because I got it in dead winter
Low quality and poor customer service. The service part is why I ordered my trailer from a local family owned dealer. That was the best decision I made in the whole process.
So many benefits buying from a small local business.
People are getting hip to those SHODDY CONTRACTS about LEMON-LAW, COURT-JURISDICTION, and WARRANTIES!
So true!
A lot of people are choosing older, more reliable models to fix up. Word is spreading fast that most new RVs are absolute crap, and the companies don't care AT ALL. I don't feel even a tiny bit sorry for them. Rvers are finally catching a clue, and those who are new are choosing more wisely.
So true!
If they didnt see it coming, then they had their heads up their azzâs.
Shes dropn like a rock
dang, wish I had waited to have bought my new class A...ugh
Good info.
I have a 2020 Winnebago that was bought before Covid. It took 18 months to get it where it needed to be. But now itâs perfect for the past 3 yrs. I would never get rid of it with todayâs quality of diesel motorhomes.
Best to hold on to it!
People are just getting smarter not buying home on wheels, its only going to get worst.
Thank you for sharing.
Our pleasure!
Problem is cost is much, much higher than peopleâs ability to pay. 200k is not even realistic. 50k is realisticâŠ
Cost is unbelievable
Our family is finding it more difficult to make reservations at Florida campgrounds. They often have to go out one year to get what they seek.
We purchased our Winnebago Vista in May 2024. Got 7.9% for an interest rate. Had an independent inspector who only found a handful of minor things wrong. So far, we are very happy with Winnebago.
We too have a Winnebago Vista, but a 2022 model 29V we purchased new.
We should have had an inspection, but after 7 other motorhomes over 32 years I did my own. I missed that the house batteries were bad, and that the skylight had a hairline crack. These got fixed very quickly, and the build quality of our motorhome has been pretty good and we love it and the lifestyle. Our rig now has 39,000 miles. Weâve had accessories go bad ( water pump, awning motor, step motor, tank valves, rear camera) but nothing that stopped us from using it.
My only disappointment with Winnebago is the radius roof design. Iâve had to reseal the roof to side wall radius twice already.
We love the changes they made to your year. Good luck with your coach
@anthonyb2334 That's a lot of accessories to fail in only two years of ownership. I'm glad the structure and body of the RV held up. And you have a great attitude too! We don't let things keep us from camping and having fun either!
@kristensalter4433 That's awesome!
Quality Pays, famous book. We own a pre-COVID Newmar and I am very happy with it. Now they offer âgreat discountsâ on inflated MSRPâs - nope!
I've heard in the forums that Newmar quality is dipping. As a Newmar owner have you heard anything?
Yes I agree, poor quality
Sales are down is good news. Donât need anymore RVâs out there. More room for the rest of us!
Until they change the quality, then the price. Forget it. People have had enough of over priced garbage
Low quality bad service high interesr rate deakers tlraising the MSRP and saying its a good deal. Kind of tired of it
Iâm in the market for class B and prices are way too high
If you average the last 5 years I am sure no one had to take a salary cut at any of these manufacturers.
People are not buying new, because these RV manufacturers are putting out overpriced sub-par units that they refuse to stand behind. And they wonder why no one is buying? Gosh, I wonder why? This is what happens when you have no accountability in an industry, the manufacturers wanted the freedom to put out high-priced trash and have no accountability, So I ask the manufacturers how exactly is this working out for you now?
I completely agree it's the trash factor, I'm looking for a used unit, and many still think that their used units are worth a goldmine still, and they are sitting.
I was looking for a Class A, then my plans changed and now I'm looking at LTV and people are ridiculous in what they want for one, But to be honest I don't want to buy a new one, because I will be a full-time and I need a quality unit that I can trust.
Getting a used unit known for quality is the way to go!
You are right , quality of build of new RVs has scared people away , who would buy a new RV , when the chances are pretty good that it will be in the shop waiting for warranty work, for up to 6 months , while you are paying monthly payments on the unit, people are done with this type of sales tactic the Mfrs have only created this them selves , now they are getting payback from future RV buyers , the market needs to weed out those mfrs, sadly itâs most of them , right now , GREED
Spot on!
Nobody wants to spend 70,000 and up to not be able to park it anywhere after it reaches 10 years and older. I planned on retiring and traveling but not now. And I bet the industry is behind this. So they can keep their crappy RV's and campers.
There are lots of State and national parks as well as COE campgrounds that are inexpensive with beautiful views and no 10 year rule. Those are the places to go.
Biggest factor to decrease market is travel has changed. More people are utilizing flying and cruises. We just purchased our 2nd Super C and quality has been better but we are also looking at cruises and utilizing our passports.
That's a good point. We have changed the way we travel. Did you pick up your new rig yet?
@@AmpedtoGlamp oh yes video coming soon I promise đ
Can't wait to see it!
â@@searchingwhilesupercing1333I subscribed. I wanna see it.
We agree! Dusting off our passports in a couple days but we still love camping.
Poor quality
definitely 15:52 the low quality, that is why we left RVing
The CEO of this Manufacturing companies are cutting corners to make profit!. And hurting the customer with crappy products. We need a 1940s craftsman ship again.
It is not just the crappy manufacturing and dealerships.
Our latest trailer from Jayco was a pile of junk.
Campgrounds have gone way down hill too.
Full of homeless and "van life" idiots.
Many are poorly maintained , dirty RV slums. The ones that are not are big overpriced, parking lots.
Thats why after 20 years of rving, I got rid of our truck and trailer.
Not worth it anymore. đą
Kind of bummed to hear that but we understand why. We usually stick with state parks, COEs and military campgrounds. The resorts are super expensive although we've found a couple of good reasonably priced ones.
High price for class a and 10 year age no parks.
Good points. That's why we prefer state parks.
They tapped out the market. They build junk. Interest is to high. Gas is to high. National parks are full. Most if not all camp grounds are raising the cost so its not that affordable anymore...especially for the income challenged family where camping is (was) thier only vacation. Greed from nuts to bolts.
so true!
That is us!
Covid has changed quality in manufacturing world wide. Inflation is now a factor.
True
Thank you. You both know your stuff. I'm not so fortunate in to know such stuff. If you happen to have a moment could you let me know if a Jayco 30z is worth the effort? It's my dream and I'm not sure if to sell to buy a motorhome is wise.
I think the Entegra version of the 30Z is better built. Look for a good used one. And be sure to get an inspection by a certified inspector.
Why would you want a new RV when they are making đ©????
older used is the way to go.
Instead of âdecontentingâ they should up their game on amenities and quality. Plus, the interior designs of grandmaâs kitchen and den are dated and not what customers want.
And the swirly clown car exteriors!
Agreed!
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$crew them! Ok, so that is a bit harsh, but I just call this paybacks for all the horrible quality and service they stuck consumers with during the big money grab. To this day I have not chosen an RV because of all the ugly history. You guys have shown us some beautiful "looking" coaches during your times at the big RV events, but we have decided looks are nothing more than a wig on a pig. My only concern is for the loss of jobs that come with slowing production. I just hope the idea of quality returns one day.
Between what we have seen with you guys and Cozy Living Machine (and many others) we are staying away especially from motorized RV's period. That is, unless we win multi-millions in the lottery and can afford a bus like a Liberty coach where you get the quality and you indeed pay for it. We have just come to the conclusion that build quality and materials are relative and at best subjective to what all these coaches are made of, which is junk. And service, or even being able to get service is so horrible it is NOT worth it to us to deal with that frustration.
We have heard all the excuses for why everyone has so many problems with their coach which we think began with conditioning over time from the sales people, "You know its like driving through a earthquake and your coach is always going to need repair..." etc. And for us suckers at the dealership looking to buy a coach and find so many flaws on the lot, "Don't worry, after we finish the paperwork we will get it into the shop and get everything fixed before you take delivery." Why in the world is it allowed to leave the factory like this? All this and more to say that after all of the video's you have put out, we keep seeing this common denominator where we find owners parroting stuff like that and just accepting all the nightmares because they have been conditioned to just accept it. Well, THANK YOU Amped To Glamp for saving me from the tortures of ownership!
We have entertained a bumper pull at most, but every time we go look at them we find the same disappointments seen in motor coaches if not worse. We follow up on some video's of people who own those same trailers to find the same laundry list of complaints. We are SOOOOO disenchanted with the RV life now and my wife and I were talking and figured if we spent even $70,000 on a coach, or more, just think of how many nice hotels we could experience across the country! How many guided fishing trips we could take and on and on as we calculated and pondered our options. Plus we would not have to store, repair, or insure a coach or any RV which are less to worry about in our old age. Maybe keeping it a bit more simple is smarter even though we will just have to miss out on some specific kinds of camping experiences.
Anyway, I have enjoyed watching your channel and appreciate being enlightened without having to actually suffer the consequences first hand. The internet has been a great tool allowing me to live vicariously through others so that I can make informed decisions before making bad decisions on my own. Even though I wont be buying what was previously known as my dream coach, I will be interested in seeing what happens next in the industry. I don't expect prices to come down so much to change my mind because it is way more than just being over priced. I just hope that somebody will step up and be the new face of quality, but I really doubt it! Thanks again for all the content so far and remind John that when he has more work to do on your coach and needs a hand, I am still available to come by with my comfortable chair and a cold drink so I can watch and giggle. (wink wink)
Hold on....let me grab a cup of coffee before reading this one. It looks loaded. đ
Everything you wrote is the truth and it saddens me that the RV industry is driving away future RVers like you. But I get it. It's the reason why we still have the Bounder. We don't want to purchase anything new because we don't want to spend another 3 years getting it repaired. And, John's always saying....."well at least we know how to fix this one".
And it's not just you. The RV salesman tactics caused my brother to reconsider buying a RV. He wants nothing to do with them after the garbage they tried on him.
Quality wasn't mentioned in any of the quotes we found from any of the CEOs. Would have been nice if just one of them recognized that one of the reasons sales dropped is the lack of quality. And it would have been even better if one of them stood up and said we are going to change that.
We'll have to wait and see what happens.
BTW..we'll be putting in a new fridge. John says come on over. He could use a hand.
It's cheaper to have someone BUILD you an RV than deal with the big guys!!!đ€·đżââïž
Conversions can cost less.
Thereâs still 2022 s new on the lot !!
Wow! đź
When companies produce junk, why should it surprise anyone folks stop buying it.
I was at boe today. What service you getting and do they do good work on your Tiffin we're about get Tiffin also is why I ask.
We have a Bounder and yes they've done a great job on our rig. We've gotten mostly maintenance.
Hello Family, my wife and I. We are looking to buy a Newmar, Mountain Aire or Dutch Star. There are so many at dealer now. We are watching the prices down, on new 2023. There are 2024 on the lots, and 2025 are coming in a few months. Im looking at four 2023's now. That has drop from 700,000 to 420,000. I will wait until September, then up in.... Thank you, for the info....
And, I'm sure they will sell them for even less since Newmar controls how much of a discount dealerships can put on a new RV. Best of luck! Let us know which on you get!
@@AmpedtoGlamp Thank you, see you soon out on the road...
Hey! Let's start making the
roof & floor out of cardboard...
...and raise the price $10,000!
Kinda what happened
True
People have learned about this industry. A total upside loss on resale, horrible quality, failed vacations, total anxiety on each trip, high interest rates and grossly exaggerated msrp's. Anyone who's considering buying new, if it's a 23' left over you must negotiate a 50% off msrp- don't be afraid to ask for this. The dealers can longer increase their lines of credit or borrowing to carry these motorhomes.
Maybe because they are all built like a Boeing plane?
đ€Ł funny but not funny. We used to know how to build stuff.
Howdy folks, ok, I have a question for you'll, guess its the sun bug that bites us here in Canada we have 2 kids 14yo and a 8yo, so our family the fantastic four hahha, would like to know what RV/5th wheel would you recommend for us, we are BRAND NEW to these vehicles, absolutely know nothing about it, so for starters thought would get your help if we decide to buy/lease/rent/borrow or just steal one lol.
Hi there! Congrats on making the decision to join the RVing community. There's a lot that goes into choosing a RV. We'd need to know how often you plan to camp, how far you want to travel, what type of camping (state parks, resorts, boondocking, etc). Will you need a garage in the 5th wheel for toys (golf cart, kayaks, etc). Then we'd also need to consider your budget. I'd recommend checking out this video first: czcams.com/video/cAGfVtnty30/video.html.
Once you've narrowed down how you want to camp and your budget we can help you with selecting the right RV for you and your family.
Hello, Iâm a long time motorhome owner here in the Arizona desert. We are on our 8th one, 250k miles total over the years.
My suggestion to folks is to rent a few, see if you like the lifestyle, see what type of unit suits you best, and see the work and maintenance involved.
It is much cheaper to rent and find you donât like it.
Everyone has an opinion. For us, when our kids were similar in ages as yours , we had a class C.
It worked well for us but now we have a class A. Weâve owned Winnebago, Forest River and Fleetwood products that were good to us. We tried one Thor product and were disappointed.
Good luck with your search
Good luck
It all boils down to one word: Greed.
Greed from government causing interest rates to rise.
Greed from manufacturers building as cheap as possible for more profits.
Greed from dealers trying to scam buyers with useless add ons you dont need.
Greed again from government taxes.
I would love to talk to you two. I have a brand new bounder 2024 35K.2 mo old. I have quite the story to tell. We ordered this r v from the factory with a 24000 frame. We pick this rv up at general r v in florida. We bought this new motor home rather than used. Because we did not what problems. Unfortunately this is not the case. My wife fell And fractured her hip. What has this to do with my RV. This r v was released to us with no, dash air condition in 96 degree temps. Our trip, it was 2 Arizona. Where temperatures of 117 degrees. From florida, including general r v, who does not work on dash air condition even though they sold it to us. To Tucson, Arizona. Working with a ford Agent 2 hours trying to get a location for repair it never happened. Yes, we used the house air conditioners, which put many hours on a new generator. The house Air conditioning We're not in the front where we sat next to windows and heat. It was a real tough ride from Florida 2 Tucson Arizona. Toilets, that will not flush and a handicapped wife now. our - glove boxWe'll throw your stuff on the floor Because it will not stay closed on a Bumpy road.. Every time we would fill up at a gas station .our Gas tank wood throw about a gallon of fuel on the ground. The first time my wife used the facilities the Toilet paper dispenser fell out of the wall. We have a rattle in the steering column that sounds like a machine gun. The transmission does not seem to be shifting like it should which means now we are in search of a ford dealership that would work on our warranted 35K from rev. I will close with, I hope we run into each other. We can talk about how rev and general. R v have treated us.
Also keep in mind that there are a lot of minorities and women that are getting into RVing
Therefore they are trying their best to take full advantage the rookie RV ERS
Cody you saw a whale, wow!
If you buy a new rv you are not smart
Poor build
Van life
Poor build quality no one wants to buy! Same for Ford, make poor quality vehicles and dealers are over stocked canât sell!
You are in denial about how bad the economy has gotten under Biden. Inflation and interest rates are killing all sales more than quality although I have seen the same complaints at the RV service center.
I think they are working together. I don't dispute the state of the economy though.
I donât feel sorry for RV Manufactures Itâs their fault for building expensive garbage
Yup!