Im no psychologist but I feel like the reason the mother was so desperate to have OP forgive Nikki is because she sees herself in Nikki and thinks that if she can get OP to forgive Nikki she herself can be forgiven but it instead OP wants nothing to do with her mom as well like a wise turtle once said "one often meets their destiny on the road to avoid it."
More like her mother see herself in Nikki cheater always stick together it make them feel less guilty and convince themselves to not feel guilty it's really funny 😅
I don't understand the whole "I didn't mean to hurt you" response people give. Like what did you expect was gonna happen? You betray someone and then say you didn't mean to hurt them? What?
well, usually, Its because they didnt think that far ahead. Its the 'stealing a cookie from the jar' Mentality. They think something like.. 'Ill just have some fun on the side, it will be fine, it will just be the one time, and if we are clever, no one will ever know, so no harm no foul!' and of course, one time becomes two, two becomes a pattern.. So in other words.. what they expected to happen was to have their fun, keep it a secret forever, and not worry about the person they are betraying being hurt, since its supposed to never come up. Shitty logic, of course.
Yeah, had a girlfriend like that, after i found out i confronted her, and when asked about what she thought was gonna happen?, behind the fake apologies and excuses she admitted that she didn't though that i will discover her
i mean it is actually true. they don't cheat with the intention to hurt their SO, they cheat bc they enjoy being with another partner. it's just that enjoying being with another partner will also end up hurting their SO. they don't mean to hurt their SO, they mean to have fun with someone else. it just so happens that having fun w/ someone else hurts their SO
It's brush off for - "You weren't supposed to find out" cuz saying the blunt truth would make them look bad than sneaking around to begin with in their nonsense logic
It's children of cheating parents that reacts the strongest, because it can be a traumatic experience for them. The fact that the friend cheated with her boyfriend and the mom reacted like that, show how little they understand and care for her.
So her mother who is a cheater, defends her ex-best friend, who is also a cheater? Sorry, I lost all kind of respect for her mom there. Cheaters here defending each other and asking to be forgiven, but they can't even be faithful to their partner, or friends, should had use that energy when they still had a partner, but they didn't care enough then.
These are the type that brag about how many times they have cheated. they do it intentionally and for fun. they are not sorry at all. They only ever apologize when they encounter someone like OP who reminds them it is wrong, but they have no intention of stopping or being sorry.
Great video, there is nothing like a perfect marriage or relationship, I learnt that in everything there is always a solution, 5 years ago I and my wife divorced because we were having some difficulties in our marriage but we are back together ,it was a really bad phase but we got through it
there is a lot of sense in what you just said and I hope mine works the same way too, we are currently separated but I cant live without her, I love her so much. wish I can get her back I can do anything to have her back, we have tried therapy amongst other things
its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is SHELLY RENEE WHITE.
Cheaters defend cheaters. Whenever someone defends a cheater you know beyond all reasonable doubt that that person is a cheater too, or will cheat in the future.
The worst thing about being cheated on is people always try to make you feel bad for the cheater when you have to be the bigger person but you are the person hurting the most. What does a person have to do to get these lunatics to think straight, because god help if op was the one who killed herself instead, then her sorry excuse for a mother would be filled with hatred for nikki instead of compasion. Like, im sorry, nikki didnt try hard enough if she wanted to commit suicide. If she really wanted to die she couldve slit her neck or something, but i bet you she picked pills or something easy to save someone from because her suicide attempt was all for show. And its sickening that people like that will use something as serious as suicide as a way to win leverage in a situation like this, and i hope nikki, her sister, and op's mother all rot in hell.
- Awful situation, I've had the same best friend since I was like 5 so its probably different but even if buddy did me dirty like that I wouldn't be cool with him unaliving. If I also had no intentions of being in their life anymore and they were obviously mentally ill enough to do that I'd probably swallow my pride and say that while we're not part of each others lives anymore that I forgive them enough that I'm not gonna stand over them while they are in a hospital bed and tell them I wish they weren't born. Its awful but think about how the mother feels, she is truly worried about the daughter in that seeing her just bathe in hate and loathing with no desire to rise above is soul crushing. then to even go with the ultimatums at her for being upset about it. I'll say everything she is doing is completely reasonable and makes all the sense in the world, its still gonna be crushing for the parent to see. Especially seeing how deeply it changed her daughter, like she's haunted or possessed.
Honestly if she vailed there friendship so much she shouldn't have done it in the first place and did the things she did with op bf. it was a unforgiveable act and she have the right not forgiving nikki. anything happen to nikki that was her choice to do as no one is making her do anything. If she really was sorry that should have been the first thing to come out of her mouth but it wasn't she not sorry. she just sorry she was caught.
@@etiennepetit6061It is forgivable but it’s not going to easily heal you from the betrayal and breaking trust. That’s why many rather erase those type of people out of their life, because what they want is someone to defend and forgive their own fucked up decision.
hate when parents think they are in charge of their sons in a way that they can decide the relationships that we have, and chose who we hate or love, not everything is fixable and even though you're my parent you do not get to decide how i feel or how i should react to things.
that may be why she doesn't think it's an unforgivable offense but the reality is that people are programed to behave a certain way when someone tries to commit suicide. suddenly you have to be nice to them and give them whatever they want. Never mind the fact that their life is only in danger because of themselves, people think that if you try to kill yourself then you are sorry enough for what you've done. Her mother may see herself in Nikki but that's not why she thinks Nikki should be forgiven. She just can't separate her emotional response to the suicide attempt.
@@sanddagger36 Yeah, true. Having lived with something of a narcissist I still think complying with their manipulation is about the worst thing you can do to them or to yourself. If denying them authority over your free will leads them to suicide instead of self-reflection then let's be honest, wasn't that their fate? Society has such a negative perception of it, but death is only the final release from what is otherwise a dissonant reality
Damn portal op first she has to do with the fact that her best friend and boyfriend betrayed her by cheating with one another then her mom who is no better and it makes sense because other cheaters will always sympathize with other cheaters also decides to betray her by taking Nikki's side and thinking this is what's best and they need to fix it just wow like there are no words for this story but the only good thing that came out of this was Opie realizing how much of a piece of shit her mom is just like her ex-best friend and boyfriend
my best friend got mad at me one day and i didnt even know she was mad it was for something really stupid witch is why she didnt tell me she was mad, anyways after school she told her mom to vent or whatever the mom then gos and calls my mom tells her to bring me to that park she then gos and trys to guilt trip me in front of my mom and says im a bad friend and so on. everyone ways pissed at my friends mom, me, my mom and i later found out my friend. its been like 13 years and im still pissed. my friend said her mom made her go to the park so she can do that. my mom said she would have not taken me there if she know that was going to happen. and we were both like 16 at the time. id likely not be friends with her anymore if she was okay with what the mom did.
If Nikki valued this so called friendship so much, she wouldn't have fucked up this bad in the first place, like "i didn't mean to hurt you" what the hell did you expect was gonna happen after you cheated huh? And also the guilt tripping "if you don't talk to me i'll end myself". Nikki is an horrendous person and an heinous individual, whose moral compass barely exists.
The more I listened to this story the more I realized why this girl got cheated on. She’s a female doormat. She accepts way to much BS from people before cutting them off
I am against cheating and some people aren’t as tolerant as others but i think she should give Nikki another chance. The OP said, Nikki hasn’t tried to apologize, well why else was she there at the restaurant. She at least should hear her out and from there determine whether or not she wants to continue the friendship
OP is childish.. going NC for such small. yes nikki made a sin but OP is cruel to ignore the suffering of the one who was the best friend. Suicide is serious and sad.
If Nikki really saw op as her best friend then she wouldn’t have betrayed her in such a way. Good on op for ignoring her. While s*cide is sad Nikki is no longer Op’s friend so she doesn’t have to care.
L take. Nikki betrayed OP, and ruined their friendship. OP’s relationship was also ruined because of what Nikki had a role in. OP has no obligation to forgive Nikki for doing this. You complain about how horrible Nikki is feeling, but you don’t realize that all of this was her own fault. Nikki caused her own pain by being an ass. How about OP’s feelings? From this situation, she has lost her dream bf, her best friend, and her mother all because of all three of them just now revealing to be assholes. The only person who can somewhat relate to this is OP’s father. While I do agree that suicide prevention should be a goal here, that is in the job of people who Nikki didn’t decide to betray.
Im no psychologist but I feel like the reason the mother was so desperate to have OP forgive Nikki is because she sees herself in Nikki and thinks that if she can get OP to forgive Nikki she herself can be forgiven but it instead OP wants nothing to do with her mom as well like a wise turtle once said "one often meets their destiny on the road to avoid it."
Or Occam's Razor the mom just doesn't think cheating that bad and is just a nosey parent.
She cheated on the dad of course she want her to forgive nikki
So that she feels good about herself
That’s exactly what’s going on, mixed with parental experience anxiety.
@@Arkryalyou sound a lot like my sister
OP being called a cruel whore is the biggest irony
this is what i thought
creepy it's almost like the mum wants nikki to be her daughter instead of op
More like her mother see herself in Nikki cheater always stick together it make them feel less guilty and convince themselves to not feel guilty it's really funny 😅
Cheaters sticks on cheaters side to defend their self
Cheaters sticks on cheaters side to defend their self
@@Mikoto028 well they kinda deserved it
Cheaters always stick together I guess. Maybe mother will replace her with her ex best friend
I don't understand the whole "I didn't mean to hurt you" response people give. Like what did you expect was gonna happen? You betray someone and then say you didn't mean to hurt them? What?
well, usually, Its because they didnt think that far ahead. Its the 'stealing a cookie from the jar' Mentality. They think something like.. 'Ill just have some fun on the side, it will be fine, it will just be the one time, and if we are clever, no one will ever know, so no harm no foul!' and of course, one time becomes two, two becomes a pattern.. So in other words.. what they expected to happen was to have their fun, keep it a secret forever, and not worry about the person they are betraying being hurt, since its supposed to never come up.
Shitty logic, of course.
Yeah, had a girlfriend like that, after i found out i confronted her, and when asked about what she thought was gonna happen?, behind the fake apologies and excuses she admitted that she didn't though that i will discover her
i mean it is actually true. they don't cheat with the intention to hurt their SO, they cheat bc they enjoy being with another partner. it's just that enjoying being with another partner will also end up hurting their SO.
they don't mean to hurt their SO, they mean to have fun with someone else. it just so happens that having fun w/ someone else hurts their SO
It's brush off for - "You weren't supposed to find out" cuz saying the blunt truth would make them look bad than sneaking around to begin with in their nonsense logic
Lol at the cheater mom. Just one wh*re defending another.
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i was not surprised when she said her mom cheated on her dad of course she would defend this she is the same dirty wh¨re b*tch
1000%
If the mom still tried to break NC after all that, my only response would be, "Dad was right to divorce a cheating w---- like you"
It's children of cheating parents that reacts the strongest, because it can be a traumatic experience for them. The fact that the friend cheated with her boyfriend and the mom reacted like that, show how little they understand and care for her.
So her mother who is a cheater, defends her ex-best friend, who is also a cheater? Sorry, I lost all kind of respect for her mom there.
Cheaters here defending each other and asking to be forgiven, but they can't even be faithful to their partner, or friends, should had use that energy when they still had a partner, but they didn't care enough then.
These are the type that brag about how many times they have cheated. they do it intentionally and for fun. they are not sorry at all. They only ever apologize when they encounter someone like OP who reminds them it is wrong, but they have no intention of stopping or being sorry.
mom is trying to get forgivnes for nikki so she can say to OP's dad "See OP can forgive why can't you"
“She didn’t hurt you on purpose.”
Exactly how is deliberately cheating with your supposed best friend’s boyfriend not hurting her on purpose?
OP was well within her right to flip the script on her mom cheating on her dad, turnabout is fair play
"She didn't hurt you on purpose."
Yes, yes she did. She knew who he was, she knew he was in a relationship with OP. That's purposeful.
"It wasn't a big deal but I still don't want to date you"
Yeah, he is trying to be the one who dumped her.
Great video, there is nothing like a perfect marriage or relationship, I learnt that in everything there is always a solution, 5 years ago I and my wife divorced because we were having some difficulties in our marriage but we are back together ,it was a really bad phase but we got through it
there is a lot of sense in what you just said and I hope mine works the same way too, we are currently separated but I cant live without her, I love her so much. wish I can get her back I can do anything to have her back, we have tried therapy amongst other things
its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is SHELLY RENEE WHITE.
this is helpful, I will look her up. I hope this works for me too, I really miss her.
No more chance for cheaters
Cheaters defend cheaters. Whenever someone defends a cheater you know beyond all reasonable doubt that that person is a cheater too, or will cheat in the future.
cheaters really are idiots aren't they. Mama threw away her relationship with her kid so she can feel less guilty by proxy.
The worst thing about being cheated on is people always try to make you feel bad for the cheater when you have to be the bigger person but you are the person hurting the most. What does a person have to do to get these lunatics to think straight, because god help if op was the one who killed herself instead, then her sorry excuse for a mother would be filled with hatred for nikki instead of compasion. Like, im sorry, nikki didnt try hard enough if she wanted to commit suicide. If she really wanted to die she couldve slit her neck or something, but i bet you she picked pills or something easy to save someone from because her suicide attempt was all for show. And its sickening that people like that will use something as serious as suicide as a way to win leverage in a situation like this, and i hope nikki, her sister, and op's mother all rot in hell.
Imagine she told her i wish she went through with it 😂😂
"it is not my responsibility to make you feel okay."
- Awful situation, I've had the same best friend since I was like 5 so its probably different but even if buddy did me dirty like that I wouldn't be cool with him unaliving. If I also had no intentions of being in their life anymore and they were obviously mentally ill enough to do that I'd probably swallow my pride and say that while we're not part of each others lives anymore that I forgive them enough that I'm not gonna stand over them while they are in a hospital bed and tell them I wish they weren't born. Its awful but think about how the mother feels, she is truly worried about the daughter in that seeing her just bathe in hate and loathing with no desire to rise above is soul crushing. then to even go with the ultimatums at her for being upset about it. I'll say everything she is doing is completely reasonable and makes all the sense in the world, its still gonna be crushing for the parent to see. Especially seeing how deeply it changed her daughter, like she's haunted or possessed.
Honestly if she vailed there friendship so much she shouldn't have done it in the first place and did the things she did with op bf. it was a unforgiveable act and she have the right not forgiving nikki. anything happen to nikki that was her choice to do as no one is making her do anything. If she really was sorry that should have been the first thing to come out of her mouth but it wasn't she not sorry. she just sorry she was caught.
It is forgivable.
stop being so socially intolerant.
@@etiennepetit6061 Maybe, but to each their own. I wouldn't forgive, moving on.
@@5XXFelipe anyone who forgive that has no self respect and no backbone. This is a massive betrayal of trust and love that cannot just be "forgiven".
@@etiennepetit6061 is it forgivable? to a few people yes, should she be forgiven? lmao no little retard, quit excusing cheating
@@etiennepetit6061It is forgivable but it’s not going to easily heal you from the betrayal and breaking trust. That’s why many rather erase those type of people out of their life, because what they want is someone to defend and forgive their own fucked up decision.
The mistake she made is that his that she didnt have the nerve to finish the job
Betrayal of the worst kind that should never be forgiven.
Of course one cheater supports another.
And of course a cheater(mum) will want to forgive the other cheater(exBFF)
*8:46** No, she was the one who caused all the trouble for herself.*
hate when parents think they are in charge of their sons in a way that they can decide the relationships that we have, and chose who we hate or love, not everything is fixable and even though you're my parent you do not get to decide how i feel or how i should react to things.
Others have said this but the mother's definitely trying to justify her own cheating through Nikki 🤢🤮
that may be why she doesn't think it's an unforgivable offense but the reality is that people are programed to behave a certain way when someone tries to commit suicide. suddenly you have to be nice to them and give them whatever they want. Never mind the fact that their life is only in danger because of themselves, people think that if you try to kill yourself then you are sorry enough for what you've done. Her mother may see herself in Nikki but that's not why she thinks Nikki should be forgiven. She just can't separate her emotional response to the suicide attempt.
@@sanddagger36 Yeah, true. Having lived with something of a narcissist I still think complying with their manipulation is about the worst thing you can do to them or to yourself. If denying them authority over your free will leads them to suicide instead of self-reflection then let's be honest, wasn't that their fate? Society has such a negative perception of it, but death is only the final release from what is otherwise a dissonant reality
Everyone makes mistakes but some mistakes you can’t take back
Heard this story a couple of times and wanted to know is there any update to it.....?
Damn portal op first she has to do with the fact that her best friend and boyfriend betrayed her by cheating with one another then her mom who is no better and it makes sense because other cheaters will always sympathize with other cheaters also decides to betray her by taking Nikki's side and thinking this is what's best and they need to fix it just wow like there are no words for this story but the only good thing that came out of this was Opie realizing how much of a piece of shit her mom is just like her ex-best friend and boyfriend
Saying "I could care less" means you do care, I think OP meant "I could'nt care less"
BOOM! GOTCHA ! DEMONITIZED at the end of the video!
my best friend got mad at me one day and i didnt even know she was mad it was for something really stupid witch is why she didnt tell me she was mad, anyways after school she told her mom to vent or whatever the mom then gos and calls my mom tells her to bring me to that park she then gos and trys to guilt trip me in front of my mom and says im a bad friend and so on. everyone ways pissed at my friends mom, me, my mom and i later found out my friend. its been like 13 years and im still pissed. my friend said her mom made her go to the park so she can do that. my mom said she would have not taken me there if she know that was going to happen. and we were both like 16 at the time. id likely not be friends with her anymore if she was okay with what the mom did.
Women call Men vicious and then do shit like what the ex-bff did.
Amta for wishing her bff should've went through the attempt and ended up killing herself?
If Nikki valued this so called friendship so much, she wouldn't have fucked up this bad in the first place, like "i didn't mean to hurt you" what the hell did you expect was gonna happen after you cheated huh? And also the guilt tripping "if you don't talk to me i'll end myself". Nikki is an horrendous person and an heinous individual, whose moral compass barely exists.
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You can do it ex buddy we believe in you. Reach for the end goal👻
The more I listened to this story the more I realized why this girl got cheated on. She’s a female doormat. She accepts way to much BS from people before cutting them off
I am against cheating and some people aren’t as tolerant as others but i think she should give Nikki another chance. The OP said, Nikki hasn’t tried to apologize, well why else was she there at the restaurant. She at least should hear her out and from there determine whether or not she wants to continue the friendship
OP is childish.. going NC for such small.
yes nikki made a sin but OP is cruel to ignore the suffering of the one who was the best friend.
Suicide is serious and sad.
Why would OP care to help someone who betrayed her in a very hurtful way?
If Nikki really saw op as her best friend then she wouldn’t have betrayed her in such a way. Good on op for ignoring her. While s*cide is sad Nikki is no longer Op’s friend so she doesn’t have to care.
You don't owe anyone anything? If they break your trust fundamentally you absolutely do not have to be there for them
For such small? Tf you mean op was in mad love with the guy she wanted to marry him.
L take. Nikki betrayed OP, and ruined their friendship. OP’s relationship was also ruined because of what Nikki had a role in. OP has no obligation to forgive Nikki for doing this. You complain about how horrible Nikki is feeling, but you don’t realize that all of this was her own fault. Nikki caused her own pain by being an ass. How about OP’s feelings? From this situation, she has lost her dream bf, her best friend, and her mother all because of all three of them just now revealing to be assholes. The only person who can somewhat relate to this is OP’s father. While I do agree that suicide prevention should be a goal here, that is in the job of people who Nikki didn’t decide to betray.