I don't think this is a beginner bike (I own the same mt 07 model), even when i was a beginner, my 150 cc bike was a problems at the beginning, and this bike is 5 times stronger. The problems is because we get used to the power of this bike or more powerful bikes, we think beginners can ride these kind of bikes, but we are wrong.
Completely appreciate what you’re saying, a lot of it comes down to how the rider respects the bike, when you’re at speed weight isn’t too much of a problem and they’re actually not much heavier compared to say an R3, if someone reckless is to jump on of course it’s not an ideal situation, but just because you have access to the 650cc doesn’t mean you need to use all of the power.
I agree with you. The development and maturation of the prefrontal cortex occurs primarily during adolescence and is fully accomplished at the age of 25 years of age. If your under 25 you should definitely get a 300-400cc
Holy shit mate, you only got 98 subscribers?? You're content is up to par with 100k channels. Doing great man, i really enjoyed the video and how you put it together. Keeping it to the point, but professional and self assured. Awesome, keep it up. This length of videos is what i miss. Nowadays, it seems like every video is made as long as possible. That's where youdiffer :)
I re-read this about ten times I appreciate that a lot. I’ve just started at a bike dealership and have access to a bucketload of bikes. I’ve got 2 videos in editing and I’m picking the next one to take a dive into.. it might take a bit but I’ll be bringing out some good content soon
@@Jeremy_roe Hi, that's awesome man. I really enjoyed it. I wil definitely watch your new content when it launches! With the help of my girlfriend, you now have 100 subs! 🔝🔥 girlfriend
I bought a 2023 Z900 about three months ago. Beside it sits my trusty 2017 FZ07 with 36,000 miles on it. I've got forty plus years in the saddle and I think it's one of the coolest sounding and most iconic bikes Yamaha has ever made. It has the power to never be boring and I can't see parting with it any time soon.
@@Jeremy_roe The Z is smooth and incredibly powerful but the FZ is an entirely different kind of motorcycle and in a class of it's own by my estimation. Each offers a unique riding experience just as my dual sports and dirt bikes do. Love me some motorcycles! Even work at a Powersports store :)
Thanks! I just uploaded a video that halfway through production I realised wasn’t a good video. But hadn’t posted in a while so finished it just to get something out. I’ve got a Yamaha Niken video coming out in the next few days!
All good points and this seems like an amazing bike indeed. But let's maybe reiterate that there's no issue starting with an MT03, a duke 390, BMW G310R, CB300R or Z400. They're all in the class just below but are significantly lighter and less powerful. They'll give a beginner a lot more confidence and confidence avoids the early mistakes (until you get too much of it for your skill level). These bikes are so cheap (you find them all sub 5k$, a couple of years old and with barely any km on them). It'll allow you to spend more $ on quality protection equipment (this is too often overlooked and no one needs it more than beginners...). You'll probably not lose any money when you do sell them again 1 or 2 years in. If you have time hunting for bargains, you might even end up making money reselling it (I've seen some duke 390 from 2020 going around 3 or 3.5k$ !). From my perspective, the upgrade after a year or so is not a downside, it's a reward! First you have this "I made it and I'm moving on" feeling and second, going through the bike selection process again, watching reviews, trying bikes and buying a new one is super fun, isn't it? Start small with a bike you'll actually be able to work with well and learn on properly, cause you can flick it around without fearing its weight and then target the MT07 as an upgrade. That'd be my advice but the important part is to feel happy and confident with your choice.
@@natkobratko3198 Theres a lot to take into consideration beyond just HP. The difference between 73 hp and the 118 hp of the street triple is definitely there . The Triumph is a way more premium bike in every regard from the brakes and overall handling compared to the very budget minded MT07. The riding experience is a good upgrade in every way. It all depends on what's important to you. I've ridden 220hp bikes, unless you're on a track they're frustrating and almost pointless.
just picked up a 2014 mod and do not regret it . been riding a 636 for 6years and picked up the 14mod mt07 few days ago . most fun bike iv had in years for sure . the 636 is more fun on a highway , but anywhere is the mt07 is the clear winner
Learned to ride on a MT07 at school, great bike but I've decided to buy a CB500X because it's more forgiving and I ride with my girl often, the MT07 is not confy at all for her. I am planing to get a MT07 as a second bike later on.
@@Jeremy_roe I'm 6.2 and the CB650R seems a bit smaller than the MT, I had to stay close to the gas tank for the passanger to have space. That was incofortabile + the right hand wrist hurt after just a few minutes. This is just my experience. But back to the video subject, I loved the MT07 and there is a front suspension modification that can be done in order to improve the handling when the road is a bit bumpy (I think you can find more info on google).
I was very close to buying a MT 07 but ended up starting on a '03 CBR 600 RR. Might still grab one later on since the driving style is completely different and I still love the design.
Thanks for the video! Very well edited and a lot of great information. I've been looking at the MT-07 for quite some time now. I will be starting the bike course soon (the riding school has MT07s for the course as well) and I am already looking at the MT07s for sale haha.
My favorite bike I have a 2022 Mt-07 don't regret to get it it is awesome.👌🏽👍🏽👏🏽💯. Don't care for a Kawasaki Z650, Suzuki 8S or Honda Hornet 750. This bike is the bike you want, it is super easy to ride and reliability awesome.
Hi.. im about to buy MT07 soon.. glad i found your video.. and your video was great in terms of quality and INFO... wish you get more subscriber & more views..... Good Luck bro 🙏🔥
im 19 years old and the mt07 was my first bike, it was one of my best decisions, obviously at the beginning i was kinda noob but now im pretty confortable with her and i will always encourage people to have one of those for first bike, it literally the best and the smartest option
The development and maturation of the prefrontal cortex occurs primarily during adolescence and is fully accomplished at the age of 25 years. I’m 25 and still wheelie my ninja 400 every where. You really shouldn’t be recommending that bike as a first bike to everyone. Not everyone is as mature as you say you are. I’d say the 400 is the sweet spot for your first bike.
@@sendysent nah bro, i’m talking about my experience, for me it was super easy and it’s a really good option, i’m just giving my opinion about a subject
In my experience as a motorbike salesman many people outgrow smaller displacement bikes extremely quickly and end up wasting a fair bit of money in stead of getting what they should get from the start
@@joaoafonso1454 tuga here as well! The mt 07 was also my first bike at 23 i had quite driven cars since 18 and i've driven a few bikes like the cb125f and cb500f to get my license and i must the mt 07 is by far the best with out a question, idk if it was because the school bikes were all beat up but they didn't feel right at all, super jerky and as the throttle was like a Faucet, spin a little is super hot spin again little is ice cold, same for the cb500 throttle wile i was afraid the mt 07 her throttle is sooooo much smood and the low end torque is so handy in city driving
I think the mt 07 is a very good starter motorcycle IF you have respect for the bike AND if you have some kind of experience lets say even cars and at the very least bicycle, i drove cars for the last 5 years and i maneged to learn how to respect the thing and how much trottle i should give, when i jumped on a motorcycle to get my license and they give me a 125cc and i just feel the thing very underpowered, after that they gave me a CB500F and same thing aldo better still felt like something was missing there, then i got my license and i rode my MT 07 and was just perfect the power delevery is quite smood if you know what you doing with the trottle and has very good low end torque that lets you slow down as much as you want with out the need of dropping a gear
Ok, subscriber 124. Nice job! I disagree about the louder pipes keeping you safer, but that’s a nitpick. Keep up the good work and good luck with your dealership.
In Australia our power to weight restrictions don’t allow us to ride r6’s!! I’d say an r6 is a VERY fast bike as a newer rider If I was to offer my opinion I’d try and steer you away until you’re pretty confident!
Nice content, but the advice seems a little sketchy. That said, who am I to say? You gotta start somewhere. You come across as someone that can start at a higher level than most. Your content is great for a new channel as others have mentioned🙂
This beginner motorcycle things has so much misconception. You want an easy and light bike not so that its easier for you to handle at the beginning, but to push your skills further with lesser margins of error. You want to learn a knee drag on an mt07 ? super tight turns and cornering on this thing ? Its doable but you will be either too confident and crash or not confident enough and will take longer to master compared to a 400cc bike. Its really not a saftey thing but a developmental thing because yeah, this mt07 is an easy bike to be riding on streets only.
@@Jeremy_roe Not really. This was my first bike and I wish I started with a 400. On the streets you need to do tight u turns n what not, emergency swerving, etc. with a 400 class bike, you can practice with more confidence.
I would strongly disagree, for many reasons. But I'll only talk about one reason it is Not a good beginner bike for some people. I wanted it to be my first bike. It is physically to small for me, and underpowered. I settled on the Tracer 900 GT. That too is a little small but made do with it after $6,000 worth of upgrades, ergonomic, suspension, brakes and performance. After increasing it to 130 HP it was barely adequate as a beginner bike for me. 70000 km later I'm still enjoying it without any spills. Yet during that time I've crashed every small cc bike and scooter I've swung my leg over because they are too small for me. A beginner's bike should only be considered in regards to the ergonomics for each individual person.
I can see how ergonomics for taller people is a big concern, I think when you get to the larger displacement bikes some people need a bit of learning before they can jump straight on though
like you said it really comes down to the individual person. Age, flexibility, medical conditions, .... these all play a role in what bike you will feel most comfortable on. Simply being tall isn't an argument against this bike tho, I'm 6'6 and i fit on the mt-07.
Having survive for 30 plus yrs riding ,I still think a 250 is a beginner bike ,walk before you try to run ,a 250 can kill you quite nicely to start with ,
I understand your logic, for many younger people as well they can’t afford to buy and trade up losing money each time, and still, if you’re respectful of the power in them you’re responsible enough to ride them
I respectfully disagree with the mt07 being a good beginner bike. I rode one for the first time about a month ago and it’s a great fun bike. The torque however is extremely powerful from a dead stop. It feels more powerful than my s1000xr off the line. It can get dicey if you don’t have good throttle control on those bikes. I just picked up an mt03 for my girl, and that feels like a much better beginner bike to me. You don’t have shit tons of torque at idle, it can haul my big ass down the freeway, and it’s fun. I’d put an mt07 in my garage though. They are one of my favorite sounding bikes. They’re awesome 😆!
I see where you’re coming from. There are a fair amount of people who require lower displacement to start off to learn on and get their confidence level up. But I see so many people getting a 250 or 300 and upgrading nearly straight away - the best example I have of this was last week a customer walked into the shop and had bought his r3 only 2 months ago and wanted something faster
Thanks for commenting! For a lot of people in suburban living it’s not the most convenient thing to do with dirt bikes and many are looking to get a motorbike as a daily. However in Australia and the UK mt07’s are restricted power and are a good power level, a full power mt07 is much faster and is much more unwieldy
the hornet cb750 and 8S is better in every way. ride them in rain mode if you want less power if that is the problem or just be careful with the trottle.
Great video. Off topic but could you tell me what the white car/truck you passed on your left is. I’m in the U.S. and wish we had something like it available to us. Regards.
Those my friend are Australia’s glorious holden maloo’s we call them ute’s since holden discontinued all their legendary models (like this one) and started production outside Australia combined with Covid these things have shot up in value like crazy
“Its the best beginner bike, because after a year you will not be bored of it”.... So why not get an R1 directly? Kids, please dont listen to this man... You are supposed to get bored of your bikes as you move up. Its part of the process and its always magic to get a new/bigger bike...
Hey there. In Australia and the UK we have restrictions in place to ensure people can’t just jump on an R1, even the bike in the video has a throttle restriction on it. In Australia you have these restrictions for between 3-4 years. Unfortunately the US does not have these restrictions to ensure newer riders can’t jump on something extremely powerful. I do not condone an r1 starting out, I also assume you’re an older rider, unfortunately I also see a lot of beginners riding r3’s and other similar bikes and lose money that they can’t afford to lose after the inevitable 6-12months of getting comfortable and wanting to upgrade
The Honda rebel I regularly sell to shorter riders who can’t flat foot most normal height bikes they’re great bikes too! Just lacking a lot of the torque the mt07 offers
I’ve had so many people start on dukes but outgrow them very quickly, the 650 range seems to be where most people are comfort with not NEEDING any more power, that said the duke is a great bike in its own right
Hi! At 5’6 I don’t think you’d be able to flat foot it however I’m confident with your right foot up on the brake you’d be able to flat foot this with your left foot
no way it is better beginner than mto3 - way easier to navigate, way faster learning curve, way easier on turns, way easier in the city, way less risk to fall (and you do not have to always worry to not overpower etc). Bad advice sayin that 600/700cc is best beginner bike. Maybe best beginner bike out of 600/700cc bikes. Ok later you said that it is only because of upgradability. Sure, but it is not a big issue to start with used mt03 and upgrade to mt07 year or 2 later
There are many younger people that I encounter that don’t have the money to be able to lose a bit on starting lower. The mt07 is the lightest bike in its class and as far as weight is concerned it’s still completely manageable, it’s super thin and easy to lane split with.
Hi Tom, I’ve seen the video a while back from Dave, I’m sure it makes a wonder of a difference and to my knowledge the newer bikes have not had this issue fixed
The Grom is a crappy beginner bike.. I own one and regretted buying it. It has nothing to do with a motorcycle. It feels like a tuned moped and act like a moped. At least go 300cc.. Grom gets boring with in a hour
@@Mr450pro I have seen a lot of people...injure themselves and others with a 125 cc bike and scooters. let alone 300cc. when you are new to bikes. its easy to get carried away when adrenaline kicks in.
Starting with a 700cc bike is so american.... Guys, do yourself a favour and start with something like the MT-03, then scale up as you gain confidence. This is how people get killed.
I’m Australian, and here we have restricted bikes so they don’t output the full power of the 650cc bike if you’re not properly licensed to ride them (which again the government make you hold a license for 3 years with restrictions before getting an full license. I think that’s pretty reasonable
wtf! a 700cc as a new beginner bike? Really dude? Come on if there are you young new bikers watching your video you’re just let them take a big risk by riding that bike.
I wish in Australia and Europe we were allowed to jump on R6's with beginner licensing restrictions.. amazing bikes but unfortunately not available to us because the Power to weight ratio is too great - even this MT-07 is restricted to be able to be ridden on a restricted license
@@Jeremy_roe weight the fz07 you’re discussing is a learner model that’s majorly limited? What’s it’s power and torque ? That changes everything. We don’t have learned mt07’s here so when you said it’s great as a beginning bike all Americans figured you meant the completely unleashed version of the bike
@@Jeremy_roe Just because it’s a dirt bike doesn’t mean it’s for the dirt. Adventure bike are the most forgiving and they are light/have a high center of gravity. Cool channel, will be back
250cc bikes, single cyl bikes, and perhaps something like a kaw z400 are beginner bikes. Not a wheelie happy sport machine like an mt07. Huge mistake to start on that bike
I don't think this is a beginner bike (I own the same mt 07 model), even when i was a beginner, my 150 cc bike was a problems at the beginning, and this bike is 5 times stronger. The problems is because we get used to the power of this bike or more powerful bikes, we think beginners can ride these kind of bikes, but we are wrong.
Completely appreciate what you’re saying, a lot of it comes down to how the rider respects the bike, when you’re at speed weight isn’t too much of a problem and they’re actually not much heavier compared to say an R3, if someone reckless is to jump on of course it’s not an ideal situation, but just because you have access to the 650cc doesn’t mean you need to use all of the power.
literally every driving school here in Slovenia has them (It's the most common motorcycle) ...And they are great for beginners.
I have it already in my garage with new exhaust system and I did not even start my driving school or ride any bike yet.. 😀
@@Honza_5 😂
I agree with you. The development and maturation of the prefrontal cortex occurs primarily during adolescence and is fully accomplished at the age of 25 years of age. If your under 25 you should definitely get a 300-400cc
Holy shit mate, you only got 98 subscribers?? You're content is up to par with 100k channels. Doing great man, i really enjoyed the video and how you put it together. Keeping it to the point, but professional and self assured. Awesome, keep it up. This length of videos is what i miss. Nowadays, it seems like every video is made as long as possible. That's where youdiffer :)
I re-read this about ten times I appreciate that a lot. I’ve just started at a bike dealership and have access to a bucketload of bikes. I’ve got 2 videos in editing and I’m picking the next one to take a dive into.. it might take a bit but I’ll be bringing out some good content soon
@@Jeremy_roe Hi, that's awesome man. I really enjoyed it. I wil definitely watch your new content when it launches! With the help of my girlfriend, you now have 100 subs! 🔝🔥 girlfriend
@@louisdegroelard2028 thanks man! Hope you lurk in the comments in the future
I agree. From America here. This is great content. Subscribed.
I bought a 2023 Z900 about three months ago. Beside it sits my trusty 2017 FZ07 with 36,000 miles on it. I've got forty plus years in the saddle and I think it's one of the coolest sounding and most iconic bikes Yamaha has ever made. It has the power to never be boring and I can't see parting with it any time soon.
Completely agree! Awesome bikes - z900 pretty cool as well! Makes the power much differently so it’d be a fair change from the mt for you!
@@Jeremy_roe The Z is smooth and incredibly powerful but the FZ is an entirely different kind of motorcycle and in a class of it's own by my estimation. Each offers a unique riding experience just as my dual sports and dirt bikes do. Love me some motorcycles! Even work at a Powersports store :)
I went from a duke 390 to a yamaha mt07. Very epic engine and easy going bike. I do find the suspension to be a bit whacky sometimes tho
My friend has a duke 390 and we swapped for a ride and what a difference the engine size makes!
Significantly underrated channel. Keep it up bro!
Thanks! I just uploaded a video that halfway through production I realised wasn’t a good video. But hadn’t posted in a while so finished it just to get something out. I’ve got a Yamaha Niken video coming out in the next few days!
Will probably get the MT 07 after your video! Thanks man.
I’m glad to hear it! Send me a photo on instagram when you get it @jezzraa
Just bought mine,and l am no beginner
I love it🎉
Good choice! Glad you're enjoying it!
All good points and this seems like an amazing bike indeed.
But let's maybe reiterate that there's no issue starting with an MT03, a duke 390, BMW G310R, CB300R or Z400. They're all in the class just below but are significantly lighter and less powerful. They'll give a beginner a lot more confidence and confidence avoids the early mistakes (until you get too much of it for your skill level).
These bikes are so cheap (you find them all sub 5k$, a couple of years old and with barely any km on them). It'll allow you to spend more $ on quality protection equipment (this is too often overlooked and no one needs it more than beginners...). You'll probably not lose any money when you do sell them again 1 or 2 years in. If you have time hunting for bargains, you might even end up making money reselling it (I've seen some duke 390 from 2020 going around 3 or 3.5k$ !).
From my perspective, the upgrade after a year or so is not a downside, it's a reward! First you have this "I made it and I'm moving on" feeling and second, going through the bike selection process again, watching reviews, trying bikes and buying a new one is super fun, isn't it?
Start small with a bike you'll actually be able to work with well and learn on properly, cause you can flick it around without fearing its weight and then target the MT07 as an upgrade. That'd be my advice but the important part is to feel happy and confident with your choice.
Completely agree that if you’re having trouble fitting gear into the budget those bikes are still great and good gear is essential!
MT07 was my 1st big bike. I had great fun with it for 5 years. Now on a 2021 Triumph Street Triple 765.
I’ve had mine for 4 years and only just upgrading now! - feel free to sub if you like the content
Isnt that a small upgrade just a fee hp more?
@@natkobratko3198 Theres a lot to take into consideration beyond just HP. The difference between 73 hp and the 118 hp of the street triple is definitely there . The Triumph is a way more premium bike in every regard from the brakes and overall handling compared to the very budget minded MT07. The riding experience is a good upgrade in every way. It all depends on what's important to you. I've ridden 220hp bikes, unless you're on a track they're frustrating and almost pointless.
@@booshting3520 ok what was ur fisrt bike
@@natkobratko3198 As in when I got my licence ? 2016 MT07
just picked up a 2014 mod and do not regret it . been riding a 636 for 6years and picked up the 14mod mt07 few days ago . most fun bike iv had in years for sure .
the 636 is more fun on a highway , but anywhere is the mt07 is the clear winner
100% glad to hear you’re enjoying it
@@Jeremy_roe the Only complaint i really have wich aint really a complaint is that i need to upgrade to some upsidedown forks from a R6
Learned to ride on a MT07 at school, great bike but I've decided to buy a CB500X because it's more forgiving and I ride with my girl often, the MT07 is not confy at all for her.
I am planing to get a MT07 as a second bike later on.
2up is definitely not the most comfy!
@@Jeremy_roe The CB650R was much worst for 2 compared to the MT....
I rode one not long ago I’m surprised to hear that actually as the rear seat on that one is much wider
@@Jeremy_roe I'm 6.2 and the CB650R seems a bit smaller than the MT, I had to stay close to the gas tank for the passanger to have space. That was incofortabile + the right hand wrist hurt after just a few minutes. This is just my experience. But back to the video subject, I loved the MT07 and there is a front suspension modification that can be done in order to improve the handling when the road is a bit bumpy (I think you can find more info on google).
I was very close to buying a MT 07 but ended up starting on a '03 CBR 600 RR. Might still grab one later on since the driving style is completely different and I still love the design.
Absolutely they’re different, fun for different reasons when compared to the rr
In Australia there are two versions of this bike, the 45hp 65x cc 'beginner' LAMS version and the 72hp 69x cc 'open class' HO version.
Thanks for the video! Very well edited and a lot of great information.
I've been looking at the MT-07 for quite some time now. I will be starting the bike course soon (the riding school has MT07s for the course as well) and I am already looking at the MT07s for sale haha.
Good! They’re a great bike to learn on! Please feel free to sub I’ll have more mt07 content to come
My favorite bike I have a 2022 Mt-07 don't regret to get it it is awesome.👌🏽👍🏽👏🏽💯. Don't care for a Kawasaki Z650, Suzuki 8S or Honda Hornet 750. This bike is the bike you want, it is super easy to ride and reliability awesome.
Damn right. Would appreciate a sub if you like this content!
Both the 8s and Hornet is praised much better than the mt07 in every aspect by experts and "normal" riderswho have tried them. have you tried them?
Just bought a 2020 Mt07 with a full akra system. Great video to justify my purchase haha
Hi.. im about to buy MT07 soon.. glad i found your video.. and your video was great in terms of quality and INFO... wish you get more subscriber & more views..... Good Luck bro 🙏🔥
Thanks so much!
Every bike can be a beginner bike. It ALWAYS depends on the rider. It’s as easy as this.
Absolutely
im 19 years old and the mt07 was my first bike, it was one of my best decisions, obviously at the beginning i was kinda noob but now im pretty confortable with her and i will always encourage people to have one of those for first bike, it literally the best and the smartest option
The development and maturation of the prefrontal cortex occurs primarily during adolescence and is fully accomplished at the age of 25 years. I’m 25 and still wheelie my ninja 400 every where. You really shouldn’t be recommending that bike as a first bike to everyone. Not everyone is as mature as you say you are. I’d say the 400 is the sweet spot for your first bike.
@@sendysent nah bro, i’m talking about my experience, for me it was super easy and it’s a really good option, i’m just giving my opinion about a subject
In my experience as a motorbike salesman many people outgrow smaller displacement bikes extremely quickly and end up wasting a fair bit of money in stead of getting what they should get from the start
@@joaoafonso1454 tuga here as well! The mt 07 was also my first bike at 23 i had quite driven cars since 18 and i've driven a few bikes like the cb125f and cb500f to get my license and i must the mt 07 is by far the best with out a question, idk if it was because the school bikes were all beat up but they didn't feel right at all, super jerky and as the throttle was like a Faucet, spin a little is super hot spin again little is ice cold, same for the cb500 throttle wile i was afraid the mt 07 her throttle is sooooo much smood and the low end torque is so handy in city driving
I think the mt 07 is a very good starter motorcycle IF you have respect for the bike AND if you have some kind of experience lets say even cars and at the very least bicycle, i drove cars for the last 5 years and i maneged to learn how to respect the thing and how much trottle i should give, when i jumped on a motorcycle to get my license and they give me a 125cc and i just feel the thing very underpowered, after that they gave me a CB500F and same thing aldo better still felt like something was missing there, then i got my license and i rode my MT 07 and was just perfect the power delevery is quite smood if you know what you doing with the trottle and has very good low end torque that lets you slow down as much as you want with out the need of dropping a gear
Absolutely, throttle control is key
This. MT-07 isn't a beginner bike at all. A newby will be dead within a week.
Ok, subscriber 124. Nice job! I disagree about the louder pipes keeping you safer, but that’s a nitpick. Keep up the good work and good luck with your dealership.
Thanks so much!
Jesus that exhaust sounds good bro! I'm between an MT07, Rebel 500, or a supermoto for my first bike I think
R6 is also amazing, so maybe. But like you said, I feel like anything past 2nd/3rd gear I'm breaking laws 😅. All the power is past 11k RPMs
In Australia our power to weight restrictions don’t allow us to ride r6’s!! I’d say an r6 is a VERY fast bike as a newer rider If I was to offer my opinion I’d try and steer you away until you’re pretty confident!
Get the mt 07, you won't regret it
Great job
Thankyou!
Nice channel dude, wish you all the best!
Thanks so much!
I can't wait to get my mt 07
Hope you get one soon!
Very informative and professionally done video. Keep it up!
Thanks so much. I’d love a sub if you like this content!
Nice content, but the advice seems a little sketchy. That said, who am I to say? You gotta start somewhere. You come across as someone that can start at a higher level than most. Your content is great for a new channel as others have mentioned🙂
Thanks! I can understand why not everyone would agree with me on it as well!
This beginner motorcycle things has so much misconception. You want an easy and light bike not so that its easier for you to handle at the beginning, but to push your skills further with lesser margins of error. You want to learn a knee drag on an mt07 ? super tight turns and cornering on this thing ? Its doable but you will be either too confident and crash or not confident enough and will take longer to master compared to a 400cc bike. Its really not a saftey thing but a developmental thing because yeah, this mt07 is an easy bike to be riding on streets only.
If you’re learning for the track trying to do that sure!
@@Jeremy_roe Not really. This was my first bike and I wish I started with a 400. On the streets you need to do tight u turns n what not, emergency swerving, etc. with a 400 class bike, you can practice with more confidence.
Wow, very good and well made video !
Thanks so much, subscribe for more like it!
I would strongly disagree, for many reasons. But I'll only talk about one reason it is Not a good beginner bike for some people.
I wanted it to be my first bike. It is physically to small for me, and underpowered.
I settled on the Tracer 900 GT. That too is a little small but made do with it after $6,000 worth of upgrades, ergonomic, suspension, brakes and performance.
After increasing it to 130 HP it was barely adequate as a beginner bike for me. 70000 km later I'm still enjoying it without any spills. Yet during that time I've crashed every small cc bike and scooter I've swung my leg over because they are too small for me.
A beginner's bike should only be considered in regards to the ergonomics for each individual person.
I can see how ergonomics for taller people is a big concern, I think when you get to the larger displacement bikes some people need a bit of learning before they can jump straight on though
like you said it really comes down to the individual person. Age, flexibility, medical conditions, .... these all play a role in what bike you will feel most comfortable on. Simply being tall isn't an argument against this bike tho, I'm 6'6 and i fit on the mt-07.
Having survive for 30 plus yrs riding ,I still think a 250 is a beginner bike ,walk before you try to run ,a 250 can kill you quite nicely to start with ,
I understand your logic, for many younger people as well they can’t afford to buy and trade up losing money each time, and still, if you’re respectful of the power in them you’re responsible enough to ride them
I respectfully disagree with the mt07 being a good beginner bike. I rode one for the first time about a month ago and it’s a great fun bike. The torque however is extremely powerful from a dead stop. It feels more powerful than my s1000xr off the line. It can get dicey if you don’t have good throttle control on those bikes. I just picked up an mt03 for my girl, and that feels like a much better beginner bike to me. You don’t have shit tons of torque at idle, it can haul my big ass down the freeway, and it’s fun. I’d put an mt07 in my garage though. They are one of my favorite sounding bikes. They’re awesome 😆!
I see where you’re coming from. There are a fair amount of people who require lower displacement to start off to learn on and get their confidence level up. But I see so many people getting a 250 or 300 and upgrading nearly straight away - the best example I have of this was last week a customer walked into the shop and had bought his r3 only 2 months ago and wanted something faster
Ive been riding almost 4 years and i finally stepped up to an mt07. Not a beginner bike. Start in the dirt :)
Thanks for commenting! For a lot of people in suburban living it’s not the most convenient thing to do with dirt bikes and many are looking to get a motorbike as a daily. However in Australia and the UK mt07’s are restricted power and are a good power level, a full power mt07 is much faster and is much more unwieldy
Wow, not everyone can begin in this motorcycle
i want it so bad but i cant get it until im 24. or i can get it at 20 if i put a limiter in it, if i can get my a1 and a2 by then
Even a limiter is powerful!
@@Jeremy_roe yeah i looked into it and its still gonna be super good, way more powerful than the mt125 i plan on starting on
Thw cfmoto 800 is the best beginner bike the 800nk engine even the 600ss sounds supreme . Like a pissed off r7.
I’ve heard a few comments about customers cfmotos engines failing after 5,000kms, not something I’d recommend
@@Jeremy_roe the cf moto 650 is the best.
the hornet cb750 and 8S is better in every way. ride them in rain mode if you want less power if that is the problem or just be careful with the trottle.
For euro and Australian markets unfortunately these aren’t allowed as beginner bikes
Offtopic but I like your hair
On topic im probably going to get a mt03, going to feel out a mt03 and mt07 and make my final decision then
HAHAHA thanks so much, I’m sure you’ll enjoy both!
Sounds great
Thanks Robert!
Great video. Off topic but could you tell me what the white car/truck you passed on your left is. I’m in the U.S. and wish we had something like it available to us. Regards.
Those my friend are Australia’s glorious holden maloo’s we call them ute’s since holden discontinued all their legendary models (like this one) and started production outside Australia combined with Covid these things have shot up in value like crazy
“Its the best beginner bike, because after a year you will not be bored of it”....
So why not get an R1 directly?
Kids, please dont listen to this man...
You are supposed to get bored of your bikes as you move up. Its part of the process and its always magic to get a new/bigger bike...
Hey there. In Australia and the UK we have restrictions in place to ensure people can’t just jump on an R1, even the bike in the video has a throttle restriction on it. In Australia you have these restrictions for between 3-4 years. Unfortunately the US does not have these restrictions to ensure newer riders can’t jump on something extremely powerful. I do not condone an r1 starting out, I also assume you’re an older rider, unfortunately I also see a lot of beginners riding r3’s and other similar bikes and lose money that they can’t afford to lose after the inevitable 6-12months of getting comfortable and wanting to upgrade
Nice voice over good info
Thanks so much for the comment! - ps would be super appreciative of a sub if you’d like to see more of these!
If your 6 feet tall, yeah maybe. Honda Rebel 500 is the king of beginner motorcycles unless youre tall.
The Honda rebel I regularly sell to shorter riders who can’t flat foot most normal height bikes they’re great bikes too! Just lacking a lot of the torque the mt07 offers
@@Jeremy_roe yes I agree. The MT is better on highway too I suspect. My gf has a Rebel 500 but she’s 5’1”.
Great information god bless.
Thanks so much! I’d appreciate a sub if you haven’t already!
Honestly the Duke 390 is the best starter bike. Something with a
I’ve had so many people start on dukes but outgrow them very quickly, the 650 range seems to be where most people are comfort with not NEEDING any more power, that said the duke is a great bike in its own right
@@Jeremy_roe Supermotos are also great beginner bikes, and even tho almost all of them are under 500cc, they rarely get boring.
Cheers!
Does the exhaust have the baffle in?
No it doesn’t!
i am 5.6 tall. would this bike be too tall for me? i think because of holding on uphill traffic lights...
Hi! At 5’6 I don’t think you’d be able to flat foot it however I’m confident with your right foot up on the brake you’d be able to flat foot this with your left foot
@@Jeremy_roe OK.thank you for information
No Worries! Would love a sub if you could
no way it is better beginner than mto3 - way easier to navigate, way faster learning curve, way easier on turns, way easier in the city, way less risk to fall (and you do not have to always worry to not overpower etc).
Bad advice sayin that 600/700cc is best beginner bike. Maybe best beginner bike out of 600/700cc bikes.
Ok later you said that it is only because of upgradability. Sure, but it is not a big issue to start with used mt03 and upgrade to mt07 year or 2 later
There are many younger people that I encounter that don’t have the money to be able to lose a bit on starting lower. The mt07 is the lightest bike in its class and as far as weight is concerned it’s still completely manageable, it’s super thin and easy to lane split with.
Did they fix the fork problem?
It is deadly if not. See DMT about the problem.
Hi Tom, I’ve seen the video a while back from Dave, I’m sure it makes a wonder of a difference and to my knowledge the newer bikes have not had this issue fixed
Hyperbole.
i have 1,020 miles on my 2022 MT07 & i think it's fine.....no fork problem......
" Beginners Bike " it sounds so Condesending " Newer Riders "
Would be a better way to put it
But The MT07 could be all the
Bike Some would Ever Need
Thanks for the input - I did feel a little awkward saying it haha
honda grom is a good beginer bike for the reckless boys.
Love a good Grom, would love a sub if you like the type of content!
The Grom is a crappy beginner bike.. I own one and regretted buying it. It has nothing to do with a motorcycle. It feels like a tuned moped and act like a moped.
At least go 300cc.. Grom gets boring with in a hour
@@Mr450pro I have seen a lot of people...injure themselves and others with a 125 cc bike and scooters. let alone 300cc. when you are new to bikes. its easy to get carried away when adrenaline kicks in.
@@MJ-rr4hd
Yes, that’s the problem with the Grom, you don’t get a adrenaline kick
A beginner could get hurt on this bike
A beginner could get hurt on a 125, I’d argue that if you’ve not got the self control to respect a machine like this you shouldn’t get one at all
was that sound without the db-killer ?
Yes! I never actually put it in hahaha
i got ktm duke 125
Hope you’re enjoying it!
is it a parallel twin or a crossplane 2?
Great question! Parallel twin!
@@Jeremy_roe It has a crossplane crankshaft.. Surprised you didn't know that as you own it
Parallel twin with a cp2..
Starting with a 700cc bike is so american....
Guys, do yourself a favour and start with something like the MT-03, then scale up as you gain confidence. This is how people get killed.
I’m Australian, and here we have restricted bikes so they don’t output the full power of the 650cc bike if you’re not properly licensed to ride them (which again the government make you hold a license for 3 years with restrictions before getting an full license. I think that’s pretty reasonable
@@Jeremy_roe makes sense! Most new riders don't understand how easy (and fast) they can get themselves into trouble with a high powered motorcycle.
god
Thanks!
Did u try mt09? keep up the good work#regardsfromcroatia
Thanks so much! I should be able to get my hands on an MT-09 soon subscribe to see a comparison between the two!
It’s never a good idea to pass on the right…
We drive on the left side of the road
wtf! a 700cc as a new beginner bike? Really dude? Come on if there are you young new bikers watching your video you’re just let them take a big risk by riding that bike.
If you’re responsible it’s absolutely manageable, and in Europe and Australia these models have a throttle and air restriction
Bullshit. That's one of many great beginner motorcycles.
Thanks
It's too powerful bike for beginners. 125 cc is the best choice.
With respect 125cc gets outgrown within weeks
that bike must be pretty old if it didnt have abs.
Yeah between 2015-2017 the bikes only had ABS as an option and 2018 onward as standard! Would only ever get an abs bike going forward.
get at least a 1000 ccm , its for safety , you dont only have to depend on the brakes , but can also speed out of dangerous situations ,
Okay
Too much power for a beginner get real
100% have to be sensible when riding any bike even 125cc
The mt07 is a worse beginner bike than a r6 😂
I wish in Australia and Europe we were allowed to jump on R6's with beginner licensing restrictions.. amazing bikes but unfortunately not available to us because the Power to weight ratio is too great - even this MT-07 is restricted to be able to be ridden on a restricted license
@@Jeremy_roe weight the fz07 you’re discussing is a learner model that’s majorly limited? What’s it’s power and torque ? That changes everything. We don’t have learned mt07’s here so when you said it’s great as a beginning bike all Americans figured you meant the completely unleashed version of the bike
Versys 300x
Cb500x
Klr
KLX
there’s a mile of better beginner bikes that do more than street ride.
Those are great options if you’re looking for off road, not everyone is
@@Jeremy_roe
Just because it’s a dirt bike doesn’t mean it’s for the dirt. Adventure bike are the most forgiving and they are light/have a high center of gravity.
Cool channel, will be back
@@dustinlerch9272 thanks!
@@Jeremy_roe
You got me wanting to rent one of these things now for a weekend to see if I’ve made a grave error
Haha
@@dustinlerch9272 are you in Australia and anywhere near Dandenong Victoria?
250cc bikes, single cyl bikes, and perhaps something like a kaw z400 are beginner bikes. Not a wheelie happy sport machine like an mt07. Huge mistake to start on that bike
Nah. Plus in Europe and Australia where I am they’re restricted for learners
Lol...😂😂, No its not
It’s not for everyone :)
im pretty sure MT-07 is not a bike for beginners. better get a hayabusa or something. 🫢
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