YouTube Is Protecting Predators?

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  • čas přidán 26. 12. 2021
  • The hashtag #PickASideCZcams trended on Twitter after CZcamsr MamaMax made a video featuring SomeOrdinaryGamers and many other creators exposing CZcams for allegedly covering up content exposing terrible people on its' platform.
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  • @disgustedcharlie6679
    @disgustedcharlie6679 Před 2 lety +5569

    Removes the dislike button but keeps predators.
    Let's go susan.

    • @smgreacts
      @smgreacts Před 2 lety +353

      @NightWolf_TV is there a way to get dislikes back on mobile devices?

    • @NickNapoli
      @NickNapoli Před 2 lety +100

      Off to an alternative platform like Odysee.

    • @TheAngryCanadian1109
      @TheAngryCanadian1109 Před 2 lety +210

      I should take control of CZcams

    • @danskrr
      @danskrr Před 2 lety +20

      @@smgreacts Yes

    • @chosenone8456
      @chosenone8456 Před 2 lety +61

      Let’s go susan

  • @prod.5810
    @prod.5810 Před 2 lety +3524

    The fact that mamamax was so close to capturing a predator from an anonymous commentor just for CZcams to delete the video with the comment that contained the information is one of the most horrible things CZcams has ever done.
    EDIT: It seems that there has been a misunderstanding, the comment wasn't in the deleted video. It was literally in the comment section.

    • @mr.youtube4723
      @mr.youtube4723 Před 2 lety +150

      Help Susan is making me do this

    • @thehat4244
      @thehat4244 Před 2 lety +47

      You catch the most flak when you're over the target

    • @Stbanzz
      @Stbanzz Před 2 lety +127

      CZcams= the world government in one piece

    • @trevorsamuel1114
      @trevorsamuel1114 Před 2 lety +30

      People who dont know seeing your pfp: 😁
      People who know: 😨

    • @theresablack9261
      @theresablack9261 Před 2 lety +14

      He actually caught paublo I'm pretty sure if you look at his community posts

  • @itzak2375
    @itzak2375 Před 2 lety +1508

    The fact that there is literally a VERSION OF THIS APP FOR KIDS makes the whole demonetization aspect of CZcams completely useless

    • @incubusblake2297
      @incubusblake2297 Před 2 lety +205

      Exactly
      If you have an app specifically for kids why focus on the minor side of the community on your main app?
      It's literally just pointless

    • @Dr_Steal_Computer
      @Dr_Steal_Computer Před 2 lety +96

      the purpose of demonitization is to remove rewards from content that has intelligent audiences who are all using adblock and are less likely to buy things

    • @LooneyNuke
      @LooneyNuke Před 2 lety +20

      More pointless than an unsharpened pencil

    • @zeddy9656
      @zeddy9656 Před 2 lety +8

      @@Dr_Steal_Computer adblock and sponserblock. youtube ads aren't the only ones im skipping

    • @thotspecialforces1341
      @thotspecialforces1341 Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly

  • @mtv_levus
    @mtv_levus Před 2 lety +3548

    dawg at this point i’m not even surprised anymore, they’re such a huge platform they can do literally whatever they want and there’s not much stopping them

    • @chosenone8456
      @chosenone8456 Před 2 lety +62

      Sadly that’s true sadly

    • @Avd933
      @Avd933 Před 2 lety +18

      Ikr

    • @cell2179
      @cell2179 Před 2 lety +21

      Did this man say dawg in 2021

    • @SpriteXP404
      @SpriteXP404 Před 2 lety +34

      You know how back when youtube was brand new the mainstem media attacked them. The same will happen to them if it get any worse!

    • @cressetcreeper2063
      @cressetcreeper2063 Před 2 lety +115

      @@cell2179 Yes Michael, he in fact did say "dawg" in 2021.

  • @electricdragon6850
    @electricdragon6850 Před 2 lety +892

    CZcams is like that one teacher who penalizes students for defending themselves but gives a slap on the wrist to people who bully, blackmail, etc.

    • @ThatGuy21872
      @ThatGuy21872 Před 2 lety +71

      Perfect comparison

    • @electricdragon6850
      @electricdragon6850 Před 2 lety +62

      @@ThatGuy21872 it’s as if CZcams is becoming less about content creators and more about regulating and guidelines, therefore making it less fun for everyone.

    • @tonythetwitch5813
      @tonythetwitch5813 Před 2 lety +20

      Had that happen so many times I started giving them reasons to suspend me over the bully

    • @ThatGuy21872
      @ThatGuy21872 Před 2 lety +4

      @@electricdragon6850 No, there's no way that's it. /s

    • @electricdragon6850
      @electricdragon6850 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ThatGuy21872 what do you mean?

  • @jaded3160
    @jaded3160 Před 2 lety +1432

    Gotta love how susan keeps predators on youtube yet removes the dislike button due to “Hate” and “Abuse” when now its pointless to even dislike now.

    • @vilmnil1420
      @vilmnil1420 Před 2 lety +52

      Couldn't have said it better myself

    • @paladin1154
      @paladin1154 Před 2 lety +39

      Agreed soldier

    • @jaded3160
      @jaded3160 Před 2 lety +35

      @@paladin1154 God bless the enclave

    • @JGT-yd2wx
      @JGT-yd2wx Před 2 lety +33

      we can always comment dislike, and if they remove comments we're gonna move to another platform.

    • @gokubread2733
      @gokubread2733 Před 2 lety +16

      There's a extension that let's you see the dislike again

  • @MemistPrinciples
    @MemistPrinciples Před 2 lety +2032

    It really is sad how corporations are above the law. So many companies have been caught doing something extremely wrong yet they get off without consequence.

    • @chosenone8456
      @chosenone8456 Před 2 lety +87

      Soon America will be Corporatism (worse than communism m8)

    • @silliercrayon9588
      @silliercrayon9588 Před 2 lety +70

      @@chosenone8456 eh. Id rather there be complete total monopolies running the whole thing, then be in the gulag for my religion (or something else idk)

    • @bismarckandthekriegsmarine2954
      @bismarckandthekriegsmarine2954 Před 2 lety +60

      @@silliercrayon9588 At least under communism the poor people get food like once a week. Corporatism would mean poorer people literally would not be able to afford food. Wages would also be almost worthless.

    • @RozettaVyper
      @RozettaVyper Před 2 lety +56

      Since currency was first created, it was laid in stone that anyone with the most money can buy their way out of consequences. This is not surprising behavior. Before there were corporations, there were nobles. Nobles who had the most money and rep of them all, only less to royals, were known to do unethical, shady things but because of their money and reputation, the government turned a blind eye. Sad but true; money does buy you happiness and a free get-out-prison-card. Well maybe not the free part. Give up a few mill and you're golden. Oh btw this isn't a rant about "down with capitalism". This is just realism. I want to be rich asf too. Only sure way to take down a noble or a big corporation is to fight fire with fire. In other words, another big name money maker has to do it. Money money money.

    • @theidiotsacc
      @theidiotsacc Před 2 lety +11

      Money buys freedom baby

  • @digitallovee623
    @digitallovee623 Před 2 lety +420

    *creeps preying on children*
    Susie CZcams: "i sleep"
    *guy said mean word to someone*
    Susie CZcams: "REAL SH*T!!??"

  • @ihavetowait90daystochangem67

    I’m pretty sure the Netflix directors are definitely funding CZcams at this point

  • @HenryGreenEngine3
    @HenryGreenEngine3 Před 2 lety +1023

    Considering just how many of their investors are child predators I'd say this makes perfect sense

    • @theidiotsacc
      @theidiotsacc Před 2 lety +61

      @S. I think usually that age is only for if the 14 is with someone under the age of 18? That’s what I heard a European say.

    • @falco5148
      @falco5148 Před 2 lety +75

      @S. each nation in europe has a different age of consent,but consent or not everyone above 18 y.o. going for someone lower is considered a massive creep as it should

    • @tosutaa
      @tosutaa Před 2 lety +63

      @S. I think they meant a 30-40 year old man or woman going after someone that's 14

    • @MattTheCommenter
      @MattTheCommenter Před 2 lety +3

      @S. not really.

    • @iamacatperson7226
      @iamacatperson7226 Před 2 lety +14

      @S. Thats different. It depends on the age gap

  • @NickNapoli
    @NickNapoli Před 2 lety +606

    CZcams needs to shut this sh*t down and side with its creators.

    • @CarlosXPhone
      @CarlosXPhone Před 2 lety +55

      It won't. There's a law that PROTECTS these sickos ...in California.

    • @NickNapoli
      @NickNapoli Před 2 lety +59

      @@CarlosXPhone of course it’s california.

    • @CarlosXPhone
      @CarlosXPhone Před 2 lety +46

      @@NickNapoli I've lived in California for 36 years, and over the last decade it has become really bad. That law is one of those laws that make California look bad right now.

    • @NickNapoli
      @NickNapoli Před 2 lety +31

      @@CarlosXPhone california is so a*s backwards it’s insane. No wonder sane people are leaving.

    • @phantom8926
      @phantom8926 Před 2 lety

      @@CarlosXPhone what law is that? I'd like to know more.

  • @jamesclark7948
    @jamesclark7948 Před 2 lety +408

    Way to go Susan keeping those predators safe is so very noble

  • @octamaster5000
    @octamaster5000 Před 2 lety +197

    Everyone: "youtube pick a side, children or pedophiles?"
    CZcams: money

    • @stefanmadethen5359
      @stefanmadethen5359 Před 2 lety +5

      CZcams: lets corps use the doubleclick ad content delivery service for no reason

  • @Arrow8070
    @Arrow8070 Před 2 lety +648

    At this moment, CZcams community couldn't take it anymore. Seeing that CZcams won't stop making bad decisions, they decided to take matters into their own hands and declared war.

    • @chosenone8456
      @chosenone8456 Před 2 lety +54

      Let’s hope so m8 because I’ve been waiting for a war since 2016 m8

    • @bismarckandthekriegsmarine2954
      @bismarckandthekriegsmarine2954 Před 2 lety +63

      Its not gonna matter unless they start leaving. Its like declaring war on Walmart for something but continuing to shop at Walmart.

    • @Arrow8070
      @Arrow8070 Před 2 lety +20

      @@bismarckandthekriegsmarine2954 true, we need to get out of here, but where?

    • @professoridiot26
      @professoridiot26 Před 2 lety +16

      @@Arrow8070 Odysee

    • @Arrow8070
      @Arrow8070 Před 2 lety +8

      @@professoridiot26 sounds like a plan to me, let's go.

  • @KozakuraRabbit
    @KozakuraRabbit Před 2 lety +720

    I’m pretty sure the reason why CZcams tries to cover these videos up is because they’re worried about their site having a bad reputation because they’re worried that if there’s people talking about creepy people on the platform, then it’ll damage their reputation, which I understand but I personally think you’d have a better reputation by terminating the channels of the creeps than covering up the videos exposing them.

    • @forest3945
      @forest3945 Před 2 lety +109

      It's kind of like when bad things happen at schools and the school district tries to cover it up instead of recognizing it

    • @mapl12
      @mapl12 Před 2 lety +20

      @@forest3945 Exactly

    • @Rohit.Gaikwad
      @Rohit.Gaikwad Před 2 lety +22

      CZcams worrying about their reputation 😂

    • @TheUltimateHacker007
      @TheUltimateHacker007 Před 2 lety +1

      It's just a taboo subject.

    • @Kapeeshy
      @Kapeeshy Před 2 lety +6

      @@TheUltimateHacker007 bruh

  • @c-lao
    @c-lao Před 2 lety +256

    Let's see:
    -only caring about themselves ✔
    -double standards ✔
    -demonitizing people for bs reasons ✔
    -restricting free speech and giving yourself the very reward you came up with ✔
    -money hungry ✔
    And - this ✔
    Come on CZcams. You're the biggest vid sharing platform in the entire world and you're doing stuff like this?

    • @monke6912
      @monke6912 Před 2 lety +14

      um yeah? when you are this big what is stoping you

    • @c-lao
      @c-lao Před 2 lety +4

      @Logan Paul to a very limited extent

    • @bismarckandthekriegsmarine2954
      @bismarckandthekriegsmarine2954 Před 2 lety +1

      @Logan Paul Not for long.

    • @Anyo92
      @Anyo92 Před 2 lety +2

      That’s the problem, they’re untouchable

    • @Anyo92
      @Anyo92 Před 2 lety

      @Bismarck And The Kriegsmarine what’s stopping them? what’s gonna knock them down? they’ve got the masses and all sorts of powerful people in their grasp, and unfortunately that might not change

  • @rolf2655
    @rolf2655 Před 2 lety +846

    This is why America needs to be tougher on these tech giants like I am

  • @panqueque445
    @panqueque445 Před 2 lety +59

    "Join us. Make the right choice or let their screams haunt you in your sleep"
    That is so cringe, it hurts to read

  • @Bigfoot_With_Internet_Access

    Typical CZcams: Indirectly protecting the bad guys while harming good creators and making life harder for them time and time again

    • @flygodchris
      @flygodchris Před 2 lety +19

      Y’all couldn’t have said it any better
      It’s awful but it’s the truth🤦‍♂️

    • @DriverNeku
      @DriverNeku Před 2 lety +19

      My man bigfoot spitting mad facts

    • @JayPlusForerunner
      @JayPlusForerunner Před 2 lety +12

      Bigfoot the Sigma spitting facts

    • @sirballin9016
      @sirballin9016 Před 2 lety

      Hi Bigfoot I thought you where a hoax

    • @camdatboi
      @camdatboi Před 2 lety

      Its almost like this world is fallen and ran by satan🤔

  • @smgreacts
    @smgreacts Před 2 lety +256

    CZcams’s platform needs change, immediately. It’s policies, its censorship, everything.

    • @chosenone8456
      @chosenone8456 Před 2 lety +12

      Just like China sadly

    • @Vin12374
      @Vin12374 Před 2 lety +5

      @@lancelikessause I have the same problem, if there was a legitimate and trustworthy platform like CZcams, then I would've joined that platform and boycott CZcams in a heartbeat, but there is no other option.

    • @ninjanarutonightman
      @ninjanarutonightman Před 2 lety +2

      Just like North Korea

    • @marveyzing1495
      @marveyzing1495 Před 2 lety +6

      @@chosenone8456 people really shouldn't throw that sentence lightly i hate youtube but we shouldn't compare them to china a country that not only suppress freedom of speech but also religion and culture and go as far as concentration camps

    • @chosenone8456
      @chosenone8456 Před 2 lety +5

      @@marveyzing1495 I apologize I ment to say the CCP m8

  • @trevorprzepiora7926
    @trevorprzepiora7926 Před 2 lety +466

    We shouldn't have to pick a side. People who do sick things and break the law should not be a side.

    • @Corpse701
      @Corpse701 Před 2 lety +19

      Facts

    • @MrPekka23
      @MrPekka23 Před 2 lety +16

      This would have been valid if people that are actually calling out well known pedophiles weren't called 'conspiracy theorists'

    • @Corpse701
      @Corpse701 Před 2 lety +4

      @@MrPekka23 who does that?

    • @MrPekka23
      @MrPekka23 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Corpse701 You don't wanna get there my brother

    • @kdjdjsj3645
      @kdjdjsj3645 Před 2 lety

      the only choice they get is a steak dinner or alaskan crab before they hit the electric chair

  • @phonzy7765
    @phonzy7765 Před 2 lety +85

    If anything, an adpocalypse shows that CZcams doesn’t actually care about the issue itself. They care about investors.

    • @chosenone8456
      @chosenone8456 Před 2 lety +9

      There corporate, they don’t care about the creators, they ONLY care about themselves and other companies m8

    • @lancetheking7524
      @lancetheking7524 Před 2 lety +3

      And what if the investors leave

    • @F.A.B.S.
      @F.A.B.S. Před 2 lety +2

      They just want money and it’s sad

  • @Michael_Oliver_
    @Michael_Oliver_ Před 2 lety +324

    We need to start holding CZcams accountable somehow, and we should also start looking at alternate platforms. There's DLive, Twitch, Bitchute, and Rumble for starters. Keep this going, CZcams as a company needs to get dragged through the mud for this type of behavior.

    • @KimlerYukonix
      @KimlerYukonix Před 2 lety +7

      CZcams is in a bad position, 0 tolerance is not always helpful.
      Only use youtube to post 10 minute videos.

    • @tuxsoft3474
      @tuxsoft3474 Před 2 lety +32

      Storyfire as well. Twitch is almost as bad as youtube.

    • @MattTheCommenter
      @MattTheCommenter Před 2 lety +12

      @@tuxsoft3474 Storyfire is getting shut down (it might have already idk)

    • @RogueShadow11375
      @RogueShadow11375 Před 2 lety +25

      @@MattTheCommenter actually no it's been saved. It was going to get shut down but the owner was able to get the money to save it. So it's stikl around.

    • @MattTheCommenter
      @MattTheCommenter Před 2 lety +4

      @@RogueShadow11375 oh sick

  • @crackheadjesus2327
    @crackheadjesus2327 Před 2 lety +146

    There should be a campaign to stop Susan from being ceo or something

    • @CarlosXPhone
      @CarlosXPhone Před 2 lety +16

      That's not how C.E.O.'s are removed.
      There are many ways to put pressure on the board to remove a C.E.O, and this is not going to do it.
      CZcams is way too big to fall. It just needs a series of incidents to cause a C.E.O to be removed.

    • @raybrunken9707
      @raybrunken9707 Před 2 lety

      Let’s go susan

    • @mapleflag6518
      @mapleflag6518 Před 2 lety +14

      @@CarlosXPhone Or why not let Susan have an unfortunate “accident”?

    • @CarlosXPhone
      @CarlosXPhone Před 2 lety +5

      @@mapleflag6518 that's called "attempted" murda

    • @ct-1529
      @ct-1529 Před 2 lety +1

      @@CarlosXPhone Doesn't it already have those incidents?

  • @MiyuTheSceneGirl
    @MiyuTheSceneGirl Před 2 lety +552

    I agree with you. This is horrible!

  • @Reallife315
    @Reallife315 Před 2 lety +63

    I wonder what would’ve happened if the original CZcams creators had just kept the site.

    • @SpideyfanX
      @SpideyfanX Před 2 lety +11

      Jawed would've definitely made CZcams way better than Susan ever could.

    • @DallySkyeAnims
      @DallySkyeAnims Před 2 lety +24

      It'd probably have been scrapped a long time ago, those server maintenance fees are nuts, especially with how many videos constantly uploaded.

  • @Xelanicc
    @Xelanicc Před 2 lety +118

    A lot of people are saying this whole movement is cringe, but I say that this is necessary for a better platform. CZcams is a timeless place at an all time high, and at the same time it’s at an all time low.
    I agree. Susan needs to go.

    • @michaloid8351
      @michaloid8351 Před 2 lety +9

      Sick rhimes brah

    • @Xelanicc
      @Xelanicc Před 2 lety +2

      @@michaloid8351 i didn't even realize 😂

    • @SneakyNinja11
      @SneakyNinja11 Před 2 lety +5

      Susan coming to CZcams was the worst mistake of CZcams.

    • @something4922
      @something4922 Před 2 lety +7

      Because you are simplifying the issue instead of actually doing something. If people thought about it more logically instead of going on this little tantrum maybe they could do something more.

    • @theglitch2421
      @theglitch2421 Před 2 lety +3

      @@SneakyNinja11 i couldn't agree more

  • @Hollowdude15
    @Hollowdude15 Před 2 lety +131

    I agree what Optimus is saying more than people saying that the dislikes should not come back.

    • @RoboVenturer
      @RoboVenturer Před 2 lety +9

      People who say that definitely can’t take criticism

    • @Hollowdude15
      @Hollowdude15 Před 2 lety +3

      @@RoboVenturer exactly

  • @KatsuTG
    @KatsuTG Před 2 lety +56

    It genuinely feels like they already have chosen a side.

  • @clickmexd
    @clickmexd Před 2 lety +660

    This is disgusting

  • @WhenDidYouTubeAddThisFeature

    Letting Google buy CZcams was a factual mistake.

    • @ImJCyo
      @ImJCyo Před 2 lety +19

      Not sure I agree. It couldn't be as big as it is without Google's data centers, for one. What I will say is that Susan is a bad CEO.

    • @adapterflow333
      @adapterflow333 Před 2 lety +12

      @@ImJCyo women moment

    • @64bitmodels66
      @64bitmodels66 Před 2 lety +2

      letting youtube surpass newgrounds in popularity was also a factual mistake

  • @dopey6289
    @dopey6289 Před 2 lety +85

    At this point with all of what CZcams has done, this isnt even suprising

  • @gunznblades3547
    @gunznblades3547 Před 2 lety +82

    I respect the movement and how these channels don't wanna be silenced anymore for trying to expose bad people on the site, but I do agree with Optimus on how we shouldn't be dragging everyone to talk about it over the risks, but I do hope people do speak up about it by their own choice, not because others are threatening them to do it.

  • @gabetalks9275
    @gabetalks9275 Před 2 lety +129

    What's also unfair about forcing CZcamsrs to talk about this sort of thing is that this is a very sensitive and emotionally charged subject that's very triggering for people. They may be victims themselves or know people who are victims, and as a result, rightfully apprehensive to even thinking about it, let alone talking about it. This isn't your normal type of scandal. This is a scandal centered around a crime that causes PTSD, and is so heinous that it's arguably the worst crime any human being could ever commit. People need to slow down before they start throwing accusations around. Calling someone a pp is not a small accusation.

    • @limitedperson
      @limitedperson Před 2 lety +19

      Right, I understand why they're doing this. But tossing accusations around is just too far. Throwing them around is just going to exacerbate the situation.

    • @ripleyandweeds1288
      @ripleyandweeds1288 Před 2 lety +4

      If the CSA victims who came to MamaMax can speak up about their abuse in the hopes of putting a predator behind bars then I think a possible creator who is also a CSA victim can come out and give some form of support for MamaMax.

    • @gagejohnathan9641
      @gagejohnathan9641 Před 2 lety

      remember that there are people who get triggered by *everything*

    • @hanskrebs2069
      @hanskrebs2069 Před 2 lety

      @BLACKBLADE 80 calling them cutnt

    • @litteralyjustsam5262
      @litteralyjustsam5262 Před 2 lety

      @@gagejohnathan9641 that isn't what this person meant by triggering....

  • @AydenHub
    @AydenHub Před 2 lety +55

    I’m not surprised that this happened at this point

    • @limitedperson
      @limitedperson Před 2 lety

      Me neither, there's multiple scenarios going on. At least, optimus have the initiative to speak.

  • @Allen_101
    @Allen_101 Před 2 lety +38

    I fell like the problem is that CZcams doesn’t need to respond well. Even when these controversies happen, people still view, which is the only thing that they care about. Because their isn’t a alternative to CZcams, CZcams will get views no matter what. This isn’t a problem with CZcams, it’s a problem with monopolies like Google who can mess with anything they want for their own benefit. At the rate we are at, CZcams will pull views even if they have more and bigger controversies. This hashtag doesn’t help because it only solves hath of the problem. It sets up the ball but doesn’t roll it. But I’m glad their doing the most that they can.

  • @leoestellar5232
    @leoestellar5232 Před 2 lety +9

    This is extremely dangerous… the community’s reaction to such conflicting matters can also give CZcams the alleyway to do something completely unpleasant and expected again…

  • @TheKitty699
    @TheKitty699 Před 2 lety +21

    >people harrassing creators on twitter
    >most of the people spam mentioning them are likely people who have no limit
    The people calling these creators pedophiles just for not using the hashtag need to be forced off the internet for a month. Both them and the actual offenders.

  • @AngelCakez
    @AngelCakez Před 2 lety +138

    I wonder if we decide to leave YT altogether and move to alternative platforms do you think YT will finally get their act together for once?

    • @chosenone8456
      @chosenone8456 Před 2 lety +26

      It will take over 1000 years by the time that happens

    • @thekremlingking8200
      @thekremlingking8200 Před 2 lety +28

      @arianna well its worth a try, its vetter then losing the like button and videos

    • @animegod2608
      @animegod2608 Před 2 lety +5

      Tik tok already bigger than YT they might change or improve

    • @stayyyzi
      @stayyyzi Před 2 lety +17

      People did try that with story fire but it failed, I mostly saw English gaming youtubers/ vloggers and I think that’s why. We need everyone on board from different categories and different countries so that CZcams can notice

    • @anopiniononyt9585
      @anopiniononyt9585 Před 2 lety +12

      Odysee is a promising competitor. Some big youtubers like SomeOrdinaryGamers use the platform

  • @senorbaguette2269
    @senorbaguette2269 Před 2 lety +40

    CZcams: "We want our platform to be safe for kids to use!"
    Also CZcams: "Let's protect and defend predators!"

  • @endcensorship874
    @endcensorship874 Před 2 lety +87

    CZcams only cares about corporate accounts and corporate friendly accounts. The independent content creator was only good for initial growth. But now that YT has hegemony over video platforms, you can all either fall in line or get bent.

    • @wazson3178
      @wazson3178 Před 2 lety

      this is why odysee seems like a good alternative .

  • @prod.5810
    @prod.5810 Před 2 lety +51

    Susan has ruined everything good about CZcams

    • @chosenone8456
      @chosenone8456 Před 2 lety +7

      Yeah because she is a women and also a Jew (no offense)

    • @spid5848
      @spid5848 Před 2 lety +19

      @@chosenone8456 what? What does her being jew have to do with anything

    • @TheAngryCanadian1109
      @TheAngryCanadian1109 Před 2 lety +3

      She takes bribes from crummy companies

    • @jamal4381
      @jamal4381 Před 2 lety +7

      @@spid5848 *in eric cartmen voice*
      shut up kyle

    • @itzsj7760
      @itzsj7760 Před 2 lety +2

      Google*

  • @JewelWildmoon
    @JewelWildmoon Před 2 lety +23

    Jesus christ. Why do people automatically assume not wanting to get involved = being on the enemy's side?

    • @gassedup
      @gassedup Před 2 lety +1

      Because they are getting involved while helping the enemy. Kind of obvious if you watched the video.

    • @JewelWildmoon
      @JewelWildmoon Před 2 lety +4

      @@gassedup So not wanting to get involved in talking about it automatically means they support pedophiles? 🙄 Sounds as if you didn't watch the video.

  • @deiciderose
    @deiciderose Před 2 lety +15

    After this dislike thing, CZcamss hanging by a thread. I get the feeling that threads about to snap

  • @Idkaboutthis.
    @Idkaboutthis. Před 2 lety +189

    All of us in mamamax discord server are pleased with the attention we are getting. We hopefully that CZcams respond and bring back the video. Thanks for the support guys!
    Edit: if you wanna join his server you need to be subscribe to his Patreon

  • @nikyfgh
    @nikyfgh Před 2 lety +3

    I watch MamaMax and Anxiety War and they are both absolutely amazing people. It's disgusting what CZcams is doing.
    Dislikes bad, predators good???

  • @juicygaming6057
    @juicygaming6057 Před 2 lety +55

    I love mamamax really happy people are supporting him

  • @DowaHawkiin
    @DowaHawkiin Před 2 lety +5

    People on Twitter are so unhinged jeez. My worst mistake is owning a profile there

  • @ImBulletm9
    @ImBulletm9 Před 2 lety +17

    Yeah, people are attacking someone who cites Innocent until proven guilty on pure accusations because of this movement. I hope its not abused like MeToo is

  • @proabishd7104
    @proabishd7104 Před 2 lety +26

    i don't know... I really dont like How max called out the creators at the end
    Its public pressuring, And he makes that CLEAR
    Let me ask you, pretend you work, you have a good-paying job, nothing is threatening your work, Then a protest happens for a division of your company that you don't even work for. you get told if you participate in this protest you will be fired. You have 2 choices, risk the job you spent 10+ years developing, or continue working.
    Then because you aren't in a state where you are comfortable risking getting fired (or banned) The leader of the protest makes a public statement about you, how your silence and refusal to participate along with others are supporting the other division's negative morals, when that is, in fact, not the case in the slightest.
    Now The public and your co-workers are pressuring you to participate, and if you don't they most likely will drive you out.
    Does that sound fun? does that sound "for the community"
    It felt like a slight to force them to respond to it. even more so when he was calling them out with anger.
    And a great example is you just being hit in the crossfire, the public is its own worse enemy and he knew what he was doing.

  • @NightDocs
    @NightDocs Před 2 lety +23

    Thanks for covering man

    • @Neoniq41
      @Neoniq41 Před 2 lety

      Are my eyes deceiving me? Is that the one and only checkmark next to your username?

  • @thatrandomyoutuber2030
    @thatrandomyoutuber2030 Před 2 lety +53

    At this point, Twitch is almost looking like a new improved YT.

    • @Rohit.Gaikwad
      @Rohit.Gaikwad Před 2 lety +4

      Atleast streaming wont get you hacked

    • @ripleyandweeds1288
      @ripleyandweeds1288 Před 2 lety +14

      bro twitch is just as bad as youtube, like actually your comment is laughably dense.

    • @thatrandomyoutuber2030
      @thatrandomyoutuber2030 Před 2 lety +4

      It was a joke, I was not trying to say that Twitch is good, but on the serious note CZcams needs a reality check, and it needs to stop fixing petty problems.

    • @ggavo7905
      @ggavo7905 Před 2 lety +2

      @@thatrandomyoutuber2030 more like fixing problems that never existed in the first place

  • @RA9935
    @RA9935 Před 2 lety +24

    Honestly I think a majority of the "censorship" or "suppression" is due to the anti-harrassment policy and of course the utter neglence on CZcams's part. Remember, bots look at videos, not humans. The humans that DO look at videos are usually VERY PC and dont take kindly to harrassment, so.... yeah.... Thats just my headcanon there.

  • @reesesollars1553
    @reesesollars1553 Před 2 lety +77

    The really bad thing is that if this controversy starts another adpocalypse in January a month that is already infamous among creators for being the month where ad revenue is the lowest due to December holiday spending and this controversy can cause them to loose more money and it wouldn't be thier fault. I get that this terrible situation needs to be taken care of but you also need to be careful with covering it due to CZcams overreacting and the lowest ad revenue month is coming soon.

    • @ironpulcinella3586
      @ironpulcinella3586 Před 2 lety +5

      What if content creators don't upload for the whole month of January so CZcams can't get their ad revenue from views as a form of boycott?
      That'll thin out the herd with ppl pointing out, discovering and reporting shady uploaders??

    • @lancetheking7524
      @lancetheking7524 Před 2 lety +9

      @@ironpulcinella3586 I feel like the same content creators who stop uploading loses millions within a month, unless they have other platforms like Twitch and not make any videos lol

    • @reesesollars1553
      @reesesollars1553 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ironpulcinella3586 I get the idea your trying to think up but I don't think most creators can afford to do that and you will have to get everyone to agree but only a little will remember the day off of twitch event only a couple streamers took part in that.

    • @-LastStand-
      @-LastStand- Před 2 lety +2

      Ever wonder if some guys that are secretly with youtube are going to purposely spearhead this whole thing into another adpocalypse? Because i swear this sounds WAY too easy to highjack.

    • @reesesollars1553
      @reesesollars1553 Před 2 lety

      @@-LastStand- if that is the case why would they? To make smaller creators leave the platform?

  • @Bakutalk
    @Bakutalk Před 2 lety +79

    The people that are harassing people with the “either you’re with us or you’re against us” mentality I don’t see them as wanting to genuinely help. They’re just here to try and convince themselves they are good.

    • @autistichades5552
      @autistichades5552 Před 2 lety +13

      Yeah it keeps popping up in places like Tumblr and Twitter, and I always have the same response “get a life”. it’s such a morally degrading, self-centred, and close-minded mentality that does nothing but harm the movement they try to support, and shows just how much their lives centre around clout and attention on the internet.

    • @mapleflag6518
      @mapleflag6518 Před 2 lety

      Well what choice do we have? Just sit there and let them win?

    • @autistichades5552
      @autistichades5552 Před 2 lety +7

      @@mapleflag6518 that’s not gonna happen, they’re not gonna “win”, get a life.

    • @vicmorgana5516
      @vicmorgana5516 Před 2 lety +6

      @@mapleflag6518 No, but trying to force people who don't want to talk about it to do so isn't going to help. Especially when you're trying to imply--or directly stating--that they are the same as the group your movement is going after.

  • @docplays6508
    @docplays6508 Před 2 lety +39

    I remember that CZcams wasn’t doing anything against Mini when that situation was newly discovered. Doesn’t surprise me that they still don’t do anything

  • @spid5848
    @spid5848 Před 2 lety +15

    They probably do this because they know we have nowhere else to go

  • @RogueRabbit
    @RogueRabbit Před 2 lety +5

    This reminds me of how Mutahar got a channel strike because he made a video on a scam. He tried to submit an appeal but then a couple minutes later the appeal was denied.

  • @richardjohnson7734
    @richardjohnson7734 Před 2 lety +19

    I knew that people who ran CZcams were ridiculous, but I didn't know that they were this ridiculous.

  • @Eightbal
    @Eightbal Před 2 lety +11

    I remember seeing a twitter that had a petition to fire Susan from CZcams

  • @rhyscallinan3680
    @rhyscallinan3680 Před 2 lety +27

    Understandable. Admirable cause, terrible execution. The whole join us or die thing is not a good approach. Just making enemies out of nowhere.

  • @phonzy7765
    @phonzy7765 Před 2 lety +17

    Susan is destroying the platform.

    • @JonTheVGNerd
      @JonTheVGNerd Před 2 lety +4

      @Logan Paul Said no one ever.
      And the real Lovan Paul doesn't say BS stuff like this.

  • @ILikeToLaughAtYou
    @ILikeToLaughAtYou Před 2 lety +5

    This platform is so dead, man. It's sad that people on both sides of the coin can be especially so hostile towards one another and not just agree to disagree and make the platform a better place regardless. These kinds of websites should be safe havens for freedom of speech, and self-expression, but its not, and it hasn't been for literal years now.

  • @ItzEngi
    @ItzEngi Před 2 lety +8

    I really never resorted to violence before, but Susan is gonna be the reason I am going to turn into the Doom Slayer

  • @madmonty4761
    @madmonty4761 Před 2 lety +5

    This is why you dont let robots run your platform

  • @Siksuki
    @Siksuki Před 2 lety +10

    so many people in the comments don't realize optimus is criticizing both max and youtube.

  • @hmmmblyat6178
    @hmmmblyat6178 Před 2 lety +20

    We need an alternative to CZcams, something that has the freedom of 4 chan but still civil

    • @zebaguettefromfrance1287
      @zebaguettefromfrance1287 Před 2 lety +9

      Yeah that's not gonna happen, the anonymity granted by a username online makes people much looser when it comes to "civility" we need rules but we need to leave the money hungry behavior behind. The double standards and hostile disposition to small creator held by youtube is toxic and asenine and is driving people away.

    • @JohnPerry27
      @JohnPerry27 Před 2 lety +3

      I get how you feel but c'mon "freedom of 4chan" is asking for chaos.

    • @hmmmblyat6178
      @hmmmblyat6178 Před 2 lety

      @@JohnPerry27 first thing i saw was cctv video that someone posted on 4 chan how an actual assassin killed someone. kinda epic ngl.

    • @sonofjack6286
      @sonofjack6286 Před 2 lety +1

      The fact that a few 4Chaners were able to lead a war against Tumblr and more against CNN, even give coordinates of a terrorist base to the Russians, is impressive.

    • @zebaguettefromfrance1287
      @zebaguettefromfrance1287 Před 2 lety

      @@hmmmblyat6178
      Wasn't that the assassination of kim-yung-un's cousin in a South Korean Airport by a spy?

  • @malonee
    @malonee Před 2 lety +2

    What's crazier is theyll demonotize you because "advertisers don't wanna put ads on this" but they'll put ads on it and just not pay you

  • @TerrificIvan2017
    @TerrificIvan2017 Před 2 lety +42

    did CZcams ever do something good?
    I don’t see anything on their good list over the last years

    • @marlom7882
      @marlom7882 Před 2 lety

      I don’t think they did?????? I mean I could be wrong but I doubt it

    • @thisisfeedy5919
      @thisisfeedy5919 Před 2 lety

      If you consider the YT Rewind Cringe and how everybody dunked on it, then yes. But it was only a good thing because it was so laughably bad that everyone could band together to make fun of it.

    • @kurtpunchesthings2411
      @kurtpunchesthings2411 Před 2 lety +1

      @@thisisfeedy5919 seems a little convenient they get rid of dislikes when you remember CZcams rewind 2018,2019 and how they canceled it in 2020 totally cause of covid It's sad that dislikes are gone i will never forget where i was when the 2018 Rewind became the first CZcams video to ever break 10 Million dislikes a Hotel Bathroom in Brussels December 2018 watching a live stream of the dislike counter

  • @toast4736
    @toast4736 Před 2 lety +94

    Finally mamamax is getting his word out there.. unfortunately CZcams is trying to silence him :|

    • @Ssternn
      @Ssternn Před 2 lety +6

      Too late tho everyones talking bout it youtube wont be able to silence it at this point

  • @faustino909
    @faustino909 Před 2 lety +4

    CZcams is slowly becoming more and more shady.

  • @Skidmark0606
    @Skidmark0606 Před 2 lety +3

    Tiktok is guilty too. CZcamsr Skeeter Jean (a respectable predator catcher/exposer) has a tiktok account and his videos are getting taken down for “minor safety” or whatever they call it. Yet EDP, who got caught trying to meet up with a minor, thrives on tiktok. Disgusting. Pitiful even.

  • @cybertronianmobian8336
    @cybertronianmobian8336 Před 2 lety +6

    CZcams: makes youtube a safer place of kids.
    Also CZcams: Well yes, but actually no

  • @ryceboi9070
    @ryceboi9070 Před 2 lety +11

    @Optimus Just wanna say thank you for bringing awareness

  • @mushmush4980
    @mushmush4980 Před 2 lety +5

    Remind me why comment sections and like buttons are removed from any video "marked for kids" again?

  • @tylercoffin2640
    @tylercoffin2640 Před 2 lety +1

    Why does CZcams love the scorched earth option when it comes to dealing with any problems.

  • @blueturret5596
    @blueturret5596 Před 2 lety +33

    The topic itself is already viscerally upsetting enough. But the fact that the gameplay footage reminds me that Spiderman is in Fortnite now makes it even worse.

  • @ScrotumWizard
    @ScrotumWizard Před 2 lety +3

    Rich people and justice don’t mix

  • @fluidwolf
    @fluidwolf Před 2 lety +6

    Honestly Im kind of in agreement with charlie about this in that the point of the video was completely right but the end and the hashtag on twitter kind of is cringey and just kind of muddies the issue a lot. A lot seem to just be taking the hashtag to mean that youtube literally is protecting predators on its site instead of what this actually is in that their awful rules taking down videos talking about those bad things or demonitizing them and anyone not jumping on right away is being treated like a predator which is just dumb.
    There is good intentions but the twitter campaign doesn't look very well thought through and has accomplished going viral but at the cost of a bunch of people not fully understanding or otherwise going off on the wrong people

  • @nicholasdh_63
    @nicholasdh_63 Před 2 lety +1

    CZcams be like
    - Striking good criticism channels
    - Defending predators

  • @saysikerightnow3914
    @saysikerightnow3914 Před 2 lety +34

    I don't mean to play devil's advocate here, but I've got an opinion.
    Why is it imperative that there are videos made to "expose" someone? Half the time, these videos aren't taken very seriously (unless they're made by creators like MamaMax) or they're just ignored altogether. And this isn't just because of the CZcams algorithm. People just don't like discussing these topics (not that that's a good thing). If you really believe you have enough evidence that you can confidently say that a person is a monster, you can report them to the FBI or the Dubai Police or whatever police organization you wish.
    If you really did have enough evidence, then you won't have to say, "They should honestly be behind bars." You'll be able to say, "They are behind bars." Your motivation should not, I repeat, should not be to monetize a horrible situation. That says a lot about your character if it is your goal. In fact, that's why I only watch MamaMax on rare occasions. I personally believe he's in the business of monetizing tragedies. Instead, you should be making the videos as documentation or additional evidence. The "pick a side youtube" video looks a lot like MamaMax is taking advantage of the [rightful] hatred of the demonization system to, willingly or not, start an adpocalypse.
    Feel free to criticize my reasoning here. I'll try my best to justify it.

    • @lonerevenant0
      @lonerevenant0 Před 2 lety +1

      I agree with you.

    • @D9xAbstract
      @D9xAbstract Před 2 lety +1

      I would agree but other news sources and small time indi company's cover and make money on this stuff and have for decades. So I can't agree with you. If they can do it so can a CZcams creators. It's still the same community of people just the information is running through a new median of travel. Eliminate the big wigs from making money on this and then I would agree, other wise no way.

    • @saysikerightnow3914
      @saysikerightnow3914 Před 2 lety +1

      @@D9xAbstract I don't see how you disagree with me. I never specified CZcams creators. News sources can demonetize themselves, too (they won't but that's beside the point). In fact, news sources are part of the prevalence of mass-shooters in the USA, because they guarantee the shooter that they are seen and guarantee they become famous.

  • @woos057
    @woos057 Před 2 lety +5

    They can't keep ignoring this

  • @brianquint6126
    @brianquint6126 Před 2 lety +1

    YT has to defend predators because where else are they going to get moderators and CEO's?

  • @truth2tell
    @truth2tell Před 2 lety

    this is so frustrating. advertisers should want their ads on videos where peoples idols educate and inform them. exposing these things is essential. children, if they are on the internet, need to know these things. they need to know people have their back if something happens that makes them uncomfortable. these issues aren't going away. companies need to get with the times. it makes them look worse to do this to creators.

  • @jarotheboar8398
    @jarotheboar8398 Před 2 lety +13

    Not only that, CZcams is also keeping content creators who promote scams and child gambling... the fact that this exists shows that we truly live I'm a society

  • @NissanSilviaKs
    @NissanSilviaKs Před 2 lety +3

    Keep at it susan the new updates are coming along splendidly

  • @thatkotorguy422
    @thatkotorguy422 Před 2 lety +1

    I like how the hypocrisy and uselessness on CZcams disabling comments on animated contents, they taught it helps them protect children form predators yet themselves are protecting them

  • @montyturner6511
    @montyturner6511 Před 2 lety

    Nice video man. This situation is CRAZY.

  • @MintleafCakes
    @MintleafCakes Před 2 lety +4

    glad to see you pick this topic up for a video, i was kind of wondering

  • @deralbtraumritter8573
    @deralbtraumritter8573 Před 2 lety +5

    Yeah, I've watched Anxiety War got awhile. The reason he stopped alot was BC CZcams was censoring him for over a year. It's sad they'll side with Predators... And not CZcamsrs who expose Predators (not ones like the guys who went after EDP, who were apparently caught doing shady stuff).

  • @b00tythunda66
    @b00tythunda66 Před 2 lety +1

    This is like rotten tomatoes giving cuties a better rating than movies that are somewhat edgy

  • @DanielleStarry
    @DanielleStarry Před 2 lety +2

    Mama’s video hit me as a demonetization rant hidden behind a layered conspiracy theory of partial truths

  • @nexington
    @nexington Před 2 lety +5

    THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS!!

  • @mr.noneofyourbusiness4176
    @mr.noneofyourbusiness4176 Před 2 lety +13

    I have a feeling CZcams is going to get shutdown soon.

    • @chosenone8456
      @chosenone8456 Před 2 lety +2

      Let’s hope so m8

    • @leolion962
      @leolion962 Před 2 lety +4

      Scary but possible

    • @unformed
      @unformed Před 2 lety +3

      @@chosenone8456 a lot of peoples lively hoods depend on youtube, the best case scenario is a ceo change that doesnt get controlled by the money.

    • @chosenone8456
      @chosenone8456 Před 2 lety +6

      @@leolion962 it’s like nuking a bunch of zombies in a apocalypse, you may die in the process but it’s for the good of humanity

    • @MattTheCommenter
      @MattTheCommenter Před 2 lety +1

      I hope not but it might be the best decision unless management is changed or smth

  • @Lidoe
    @Lidoe Před 2 lety +2

    Just when I thought youtube couldn’t get any lower. They terminated my old account in which they gave no reason as to why especially since I didn’t have any copyright or guideline strikes and they wouldn’t give it back to me when i requested it but they’re penalizing people for exposing pedophiles. It still surprises me how many people care more about the dislike button

  • @daboatmaster8776
    @daboatmaster8776 Před 2 lety +2

    It’s disgusting whatever ai they got running this joint is picking the wrong side

  • @MaxsonAtTheFort
    @MaxsonAtTheFort Před 2 lety +3

    Kid Diddler on CZcams = Susan sleeping
    Misgender somebody in the comments section = Susan - “HOLD IT RIGHT THERE BIGOT!”

  • @blackbelt123100
    @blackbelt123100 Před 2 lety +3

    Optimus: "CZcams don't do the wrong thing"
    CZcams: probably going to do nothing or silence thus video

  • @NaeNae0420
    @NaeNae0420 Před 2 lety

    Not to take away from the video but the little Snapchat notification sounds at 3:43 was sending me 🤣

  • @PsychoCacti
    @PsychoCacti Před 2 lety

    Thank you for covering this every voice matters!