The Daytona 500 May Have To Move…
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- čas přidán 28. 04. 2024
- The Daytona 500 concluded 2 months ago, the 2025 edition of the race will not be back for another 10. Yet the race has inadvertently been pushed into the discussion for a more odd reason, the Super Bowl. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell recently talked on the Pat McAfee Show about moving the Super Bowl to Presidents Day Weekend which would be a scheduling nightmare for NASCAR and the Daytona 500. Today we are gonna look at this possibility and why the Daytona 500 may have to move...
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How do you think NASCAR will schedule the Daytona 500 when/if this happens?
A lot 😳
1 week later being on the same day as the Superbowl in the USA as a sport is suicide for a brand
@@quinnlay2150 If the NFL is still “The Taylor Swift Show” easy for me to pick the Daytona 500.
Prolly move the season a week back
I don't know. I think Nascar would have to either push everything back or forward, but it's just going to be a pain.
Solution: host the Super Bowl on the grass infield at Daytona.
During the race
@@j.paulm.1575that would be crazy as hell
Or have the race at halftime @@j.paulm.1575
@@j.paulm.1575LETS JUST DO IT ON THE BACKSTRETCH DURING THE RACE 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@DYNAMONBURRITO minor injuries
Simple fix...Daytona 500 reverts back to it's NOON Eastern start time like it was when CBS aired the race, which generally would have the race end 2 1/2 hours before kickoff
That is if the race doesn’t pull a 2023 Daytona 500 and go for like 6 hours
Assuming of course it doesn't rain that day. We saw the race get rained out before or couldn't finish the race prior to halfway before the Super Bowl coverage starts especially when Fox has it.
That won’t help a damn thing. You still have it the day of the Super Bowl, and you’re not taking into account this thing Florida gets every other day. Rain. Your noon start time will do nothing.
@@kadenlemon495 it does not rain in florida before 1130am est
The Daytona 500 had been run on it's scheduled day until the race where Juan Montoya hit the jet dtyer
Man I hate NFL/Taylor Swift Football league
Like I need more reason to strongly hate the NFL
Anything without cars isn't entertaining
@@ThatOneCappybaraHockeys pretty awesome
I don't like them either. Especially in recent years and I hated last year because of one person.
@@ThatOneCappybara Agree
NFL needs to remove the “pro bowl games” and keep it where it is no body watches the pro bowl anyway
Like the all star game, worst nightmare is getting picked to play an extra game in the middle of summer.
The best solution I have is to move the entire schedule up two weeks. I know ending the season in Mid-November was bad ratings-wise but you can’t win against the NFL.
I remember it finished close to Thanksgiving about 2016.
Plus the day after Thanksgiving in 2001 for obvious reasons.
Considering the stakes for NFL are immense this year, I won't be surprised if it happens during this 2025 season
Also needs more Saturday night races during nfl season
But then you have the races that have to be in certian weeks like The 600 or the Southern 500
It’s for things like this that i think “why can’t we all just be friends?” and then get depressed because i know thats never gonna happen
The NFL doesn’t respect the other sports leagues anymore. The NFL used to avoid having games compete against the World Series or the NBA’s Christmas Games, now they actively schedule games to go against them even if it means having games on non-traditional days.
I may be a Bills fan BUT I'm a NASCAR fan first, this pisses me off to no end but the NFL has bigger guns than we do it's the sad truth
Go bills and go Blaney
@@adamstuart1045 Go Bills go Blaney. Speaking my language here!
I agree with you fully I'm a NASCAR fan first NFL second
I’m only a NASCAR FAN this makes me tolerate the NFL less and less. I occasionally tune into a NFL on when NASCAR isn’t on.
Bills Mafia
First Christmas they ruined for the NBA now "the great American" race is being ruined by the Shield
NASCAR is doing a really good job ruining itself
This is out of NASCAR's control the NFL is doing this for the money only@@stevencramsie9172
How dare you disrespect the NFL just because you are mad that you werent even athletic enough to play, or you were just a 3rd or 4th stringer on the bench 🤣
They’ll figure it out.
Roger Goodell is gonna Goodell.
It is what it is.
Both the NFL team owners and the players' union would have to agree to an 18-game season, so it takes a bit more than just a diktat from Goodell. I recall that the players' union wasn't thrilled about going to a 17-game season, and the current agreement runs through 2030 so extending the season can't happen before then anyway.
Oh thank Jesus Christ hopefully we can get the sponsors and the teams in NASCAR who have deep pockets to help us.
Yeah, I was thinking about this. 17 games was an insane feat for the league to pull off, but 18 games is likely asking for too much. That could spell another lockout for the league which could be one of those season canceling type lockouts
with 18 games a year mfs are going to retire at 30
@@whalesequenceyeah but the players union is pushing for 2 bye weeks. The only way they likely get that is moving to 18 games.
Daytona 500 (if pushed back a week) should become a saturday race (just incase of rain). Also, Why don't we make the Southern 500 a Labor Day day race (start time 3:30pm) racing at Darlington is better during the day (at least in the cup series)
And I will say that they should have the clash be the Saturday of Superbowl weekend. Out of the way, and maybe the could work something out with the NFL to have it be in the same town as the superbowl. And we should have more double-headers. Imagine this: Chicagoland Friday night and Chicago Street Race on Sunday of independence day weekend. Lucas Oil IRP Friday night and the Brickyard 400 on the same weekend. A Friday Night Bout at the Milwaukee Mile befor a Sunday Road America Race. A Friday @ Iowa Speedway rounded off by a banger at Knoxville. A Friday night Eldora followed by a Sunday Mid-Ohio race. A North Wilkesboro Martinsville double-header weekend. A Texas Motor Speedway and COTA. If Nascar did just 4 of these, that'd be enough to accommodate for the Daytona 500 to move back a week, and 3 other off weekends to be used at NASCAR'S discretion. Wed finish the season the same weekend as this year
Well, the Daytona 500 has been held on the last Sunday in February a couple times before. I'd be fine with having the season start a week later, if it allows for the Coca-Cola 600 at Charlotte, to both stay on FOX and stay on Memorial Day Weekend.
That is another tradition I have known my entire life as a NASCAR fan, and I think it should stay that way on the new media package for NASCAR that starts in 2025.
The Southern 500 was held on Labor Day Weekend when I was a kid starting to get into NASCAR. This was the early 2000's when I was about 8, 9, or 10 years old, somewhere in that range. I was too young to fully appreciate what that tradition meant to the sport.
In 2015, when they brought it back to Labor Day Weekend, I was 22 years old, been out of school for a couple of years, and had been a committed NASCAR fan for a longtime up to that point, like I still am today.
I was super excited when Darlington returned to Labor Day.
As an adult I fully understand the importance and significance of what Darlington's Southern 500 Labor Day Weekend date means to the history and tradition of NASCAR. I love this tradition. I love that is also starts the Playoffs. I don't believe we ever need to touch that date again, despite what the NFL decides to do in the coming years.
I think a lot of people would agree that tradition is important to NASCAR. When I think tradition in NASCAR, I think Daytona, Talladega, Charlotte, Martinsville, Bristol, North Wilkesboro, Darlington, Atlanta, even Dover has a special place in my heart as a NASCAR fan now.
I lived in Daytona for college. Was there for 4 500’s and the 150,000 people estimate is even low. 2022 the surrounding towns estimated over 200,000 people came to the area for the race weekend. People came down without tickets just to watch the race from the same town. Others an excuse to party on a long weekend. Daytona, a town that has been really on a big rebuild since the dying days of MTV spring break is going to definitely take a hit moving this race sadly.
Football is not stealing fans from NASCAR. Racing requires an inherent knowledge and respect for engineering. As the quality of education falls so to does the ability to appreciate such things. Additionally, there are a lot more areas for young minds attention today vs 30 years ago. More than anything is cars today aren’t easy to work on. A kid isn’t swapping an engine in his back yard with nothing more than 9/16 & 1/2 inch wrench.
So in a day and age where education is more available than ever before in the history of man kind.....You think that it is due to a low quality of education? Again, anyone who wants to learn how to do something can either do so through many forms of the internet and the library. And if that isent good enough, because of the internet...You can find someone to TEACH you how to do something.... You sound like harley davidson. Blaming the younger generation simply because they dont give a fuck about racing...Its really weird that you dont see that
If this ever happens, put the 500 at the first week of February instead of a week after Presidents Day
Unfortunately that would then mean either Wild Cards or Week 18 would conflict with the 500
@@QueenVoodo0 what about the week before the Super Bowl?
@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YTPro Bowl, I misread last year's schedule. The first week of February would conflict with that.
@@QueenVoodo0 man this is gonna suck as a Daytona 500 fan
No one watches the pro bowl
I think NASCAR should invite Goodell to the 500, get him white girl wasted on jello shooters, lock him in a porta potty in the infield at the hottest point of the day, and then conveniently lose the key.
A big one that can contain all of the clowns that 'run' nascar also.
Seriously, screw the NFL and its big-bully influence!
The NFL is only growing and becoming more relevant, the exact opposite of what NASCAR is doing to itself. They have all the power here
@@stevencramsie9172 Ever since the Chargers left for LA, I forgot the NFL existed.
@@stevencramsie9172 I actually think it's in a bubble. The Chiefs dynasty can't last forever and the Taylor Swift fandom will move on.
@@Marylandbrony The Swifties will certainly move on when Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce break up. Think I’m wrong? A lot of Swifties didn’t even start getting into the NFL until Taylor Swift came into the picture. And Taylor Swift can such a spoiled brat and a serial dater.
@@stevencramsie9172 Which is infuriating because there is nothing good about American football at all. It is the dumbest sport in the world requiring the least amount of athletic skill. All the players are violent monsters who rape and abuse women all the time. And everyone in this country watches BECAUSE of that because everyone here loves them some violence. Sadly, the one thing NASCAR has done that hurt it with the mainstream the most is all their measures to make sure the drivers don't freaking DIE because everyone started tuning in after Dale Earnhardt hoping to see people get killed all the time.
The 2 easiest solutions are moving the southern 500 back to Monday like it was for decades, and run the Daytona 500 Saturday night. The cars run better at night, and look better. And the Monday night ratings a few years ago show that the 500 in prime time is a much better idea.
I may be mistaken, and I'm sure to be corrected if I am, but we have at least till 2030 to figure this out. The NFL can't add any games until the agreement with the players union expires in 2030. My solution if it does happen? Run the 500 either the Saturday before the Super Bowl or the Sunday after.
Nope can't do that. Saturday is still a day for the media that covers the NFL to talk about the Big Game. You can't try to have something else just a day before the Super Bowl espicially in America.
Fuck the Super Bowl. NASCAR has President's Day Weekend. Football can get stuffed.
2,072 days left till 2030. James 4:13-14. Also, ever seen the Watchman River channel?
I hope the players say that they refuse to play any more games in a season.
Screw Goddell.
I honestly can't believe that a sport that is literally designed to maximize advertising time is the most watched sport in any country. An NFL broadcast is Advertising first, overnalyzation of a boring game, and about 13 minutes of the sport actually happening.
i'll be honest people like icyvert and/or urinatingtree would be great ones to discuss this with on the nwp if it does happen. you get people who have a serious interest and a presence somewhat in the stick-and-ball community, that also have an interest (or have had an interest) in nascar. it just makes total sense to me haha
I agree with putting the yinzer (UrinatingTree) on the nwp for that matter
Man, I'd love to see Tree return to the NWP. The first episode I watched of it was one where he was a guest on back in season 1 (I'm old, fuck)
I saw an in depth video on Tik Tok where this guy argued that they should Combine the Super Bowl and the Daytona 500 and I’m so down. The “Super Daytona Bowl 500”
Have the race going on with the Super Bowl going on in the infield 😂😂
If the NFL were up for it I'd be 1000% for this. Would be the ultimate combination of American sports
That idea is so dumb that it might actually work.
That would be the greatest and most american thing ever
I say No unless they want to cross promote on FOX which could happen but that’s unrealistic to me.
Well that kind of already happens FOX puts NASCAR promos but next TV deal NBC tried to want to alternate 500 but FOX was having none of it.
The NFL wants to be center stage.
Racing itself is a niche sport why the boom faded as fast as it did in late 2000s.
It is what it is.
Imagine someone starts spinning through the grass as all the players and coaches have to run it lol
My dumbass thought you meant they have to move to a different track I was so confused
Likely did that for clicks. A lameo thing many youtubers do.
I think a good idea is to move the season up one week, have speedweek at Daytona, clash on monday, 500 on sunday. Have Atlanta go head to head with the Super Bowl, and either have it as a Saturday race or Sunday noon race. Therefore no conflict between the 500 and super bowl at all.
Having a Saturday race a day before the Super Bowl still isn't an option no matter what race you put on that date. Thats still a day for the media.
Having it even on the same weekend won’t work.
Here's what I would do, if I was in charge of NASCAR, I'd say, if you don't like NASCAR going on during big NFL games and/or Olympic games, well screw you, we will still be racing, and if you don't like it, then tough sh*t
How about run the Daytona 500 a week early and then run the clash on Saturday night the week after right before the superbowl
Of course, the NFL doesn’t listen to people asking for it on a Saturday, and instead wants to move it to a holiday weekend, and fuck with NASCAR.
Who is asking for NFL on Saturday? You could make the argument that in some areas, college football is bigger than the NFL
@@cehamlet89 for the Super Bowl. Everyone gets wasted on Super Bowl Sunday, and there are still people who work on President’s day. Not saying the whole season, talking the Super Bowl. I, for one, have been clamoring for a Saturday Super Bowl, along with many of my friends in college.
You ever been to Georgia and further?
Football is King there like Basketball is in North Carolina and Kentucky.
@Between_thetacklesLIVE it's Super Bowl Sunday, Saturday? Nah keep it the same. Maybe the 500 should move to Saturday!
@@cehamlet89 A lot of people want the Super Bowl on a Saturday so they can deal with hangovers rather than making the day after a holiday.
Nascar fans will come out in full force and stick it to the NFL
NASCAR fans don’t even come out to their own races and fill the stands like they used to. 🤣
Including me, attended at least two races per year for 30 plus years. Won’t do it again. NASCAR ruined racing with the playoffs and mandatory cautions. Judging by Tv coverage (announcers saying we have a packed grandstand) but actually the crowd is probably 20 to 30 %. It is really sad that NASCAR has come to this but they did it to themselves.
Blame Goodell? Try looking at Congress who has proposed the Monday after Super Bowl to be a national holiday or the Super Bowl be held on a Saturday or President Day Weekend. If you do not believe me, set your google searched back 1 year and start reading.
Just move the 500 back to a 12 or 1 o'clock starting time, and it should be over before the SB even starts. With that said, NASCAR should move all the races back to a noon or 1 o'clock eastern time start. The only exception should be the races out on the west coast.
I am a diehard NFL fan, but no way in hell will I miss the Daytona 500
The last of us tv show moved one of its episodes up a couple of days to not interfere with the Super Bowl
This is just a tad bit different.
I really enjoy your content keep up the great work ! but there might be a problem with moving the Southern 500 to labor day Monday. it's the NHRA's biggest race of the year. the US Nationals. for hyper Motorsports fans like me and hopefully many of your viewers and yourself, we going to watch or try to attend everything but the casual fan isn't going to stick around for the full broadcast because it already late in the day and most us will have to get ready for the next day which is a work day
I've always thought & wished someone could back TNN or maybe even speed channel. two networks that solely focused on racing. (well at least one)
Just hold the race Monday, seems to be a tradition now.🌦️🌦️🌦️🌦️🌦️🌦️
BUT HOW ARE WE GONNA CELEBRATE DALE AND NASCAR COMING BACK???????
SCREW THE NFL!!!!!!!
dale is dead mama
@@w_redeye The Day He Died & What He Done To The Safety Of The Sport & Whatnot
@@BraydenBunch58 those safety changes were inevitable. If Dale Sr. didn't die, it would've been someone else. I blame NASCAR for delaying their response to calls for safety changes after the death of Adam Petty.
Trying to be the NFL is what took NASCAR down the road its on in the first place...
There is at least some truth to that. I wish they wouldn't be trying to be as rich as the nfl. But the way they are doing it is the opposite of how you should. Look at the nfl model and then look at the nascar model. See the difference?
I hope this forces NASCAR to start it at 12pm like they use to. I’m a yearly attendee of the Daytona 500 and there’s no reason to finish under the lights. They could have the 500 completed by 4pm at the latest before any Super Bowl festivities start. We need to find a way to get earlier start times and make the sport less corporate. There is a way, we just need the France family to sell to the right owners.
Tell the NFL to take their Super Bowl and shove it where the sun don't shine
I dont care if it gets moved As long as Daytona 500 is the first nascar race of the year then I'm good
Edit: crap I just realized that if the 500 was moved it wouldn't be on my 4 day weekend. I may not be able to go anymore:(
I just think Nascar and the NFL should have a meeting and discuss this issue first and foremost before they would do such a thing.
😅🤣Good luck with that as both the NBA & NHL have to make sure their all star weekends are clear of super bowl weekend
Here's what I would do if I was NASCAR;
Move the season down a week until you get to the second Richmond race
Ged rid of the second Richmond race all together and have the rest of the schedule remain where it would be (35 race schedule)
Run commercials for the Daytona 500 during the Superbowl that actually make people want to watch in on it
And the hardest part for them - Take advantage of the commercial runs and *don't screw it up*
Imagine if NASCAR didn’t start their season with the Daytona 500- how much do you think NASCAR would be affected by the NFL having the Super Bowl a week later if they didn’t run their biggest race of the season at the beginning? It would probably be even worse for them.
I don’t like how the NFL pushes around all the different sporting events around just cause there the big bad kid on the block. We should keep the Daytona 500 where it is to show that NASCAR is staying and won’t be pushed around by the NFL.
it's not easy when you basically have a fraction of the audience... in a random game the NFL might have over 50% more audience than a nascar race
@@otaviofrn_adv Nascar is shooting themselves in the foot.
Nascar had to flip, flop an change rules. Nascar had to play with start times an the tracks. Not to mention they raised the dang prices. I used to go to Daytona 500 with my wife. Every year we had to almost relearn things an pay more for tickets. The whole stands changed over 5 years. Parking is also a headache.
Before my grandfather passed away he was unhappy with NASCAR, and he was a race car driver, and followed NASCAR for decades.
I try to watch the Daytona 500 on TV now.
But NFL should pick a different day
The NFL is the one who’s making it tough. All they want to do is phase out all other sports including car racing so they can have more viewers. Heck, I don’t remember if he said this in the video or if someone commented this, but they purposely pick days of other sports events to have NFL games. The amount of dominant power they have is insane that NASCAR would be asking for death if they asked NFL to move a game.
They "race" at 1/2 throttle until 5 laps to go before a stage or checkered flag, then block like hell. How can it get any more boring? Fix racing first and do it on a Saturday night or start at noon like before.
Honestly the NFL should go back to 16 games. It will increase urgency. Plus it’s more balanced.
16 games also made things a nice even number. 17 is just cursed.
Nascar needs to go to a 24 race schedule. trim half the tracks with multiple dates and your season is done by September problem solved You save money by not traveling and don't have to compete with the NFL...
@@americanbadass88but then people will call out NASCAR for being afraid of competing with other sports
Goodell sees dollar signs.
@@danielmoorefield4891 correction its actually the NFL team owners GOODELL works for that see $$$$
The NFL wants the Super Bowl in President's Day weekend since Monday would be a holiday. Why not have the Daytona 500 on President's Day night? Monday Night NASCAR haha
Hopefully this all becomes nothing more than hot air...
If the NFL can increase their regular season to 17 from 16, you better believe they can make it an 18 game regular season schedule unfortunately because that is what the owners want not GOODELL who works for them ultimately
they are both sports entertainment
Bigger sport bullying a smaller sport, what a shock.
Coming from a European sportscar fan, I know what its like. The Spa 24 got kicked off its traditional date by F1 for 2023 (and the foreseeable future) of the last weekend of July to the end of June/early July, even though the Spa 24 started 26 years before F1 (granted it has missed 24 years, with the final one being in 1963).
Sadly, they just have to move the race to a week later.
1 way to fix this is by advertising the hell out of the daytona 500 by 15 states.
I hope they make it a Monday night race and buy a SB ad advertising it
I remember last year there was a race on NBC and my local TV station booted it for a preseason NFL game that was also broadcasted on NFL Network. Literally could not watch the race!
Things I’d do
1: Move The Clash to a Tuesday Night on the Backstretch. The Race itself It To The Sunday After the Super Bowl
2: Bring Back Midweek Races. It’s the only way to keep the Schedule at 36, but maybe sacrificing a few weeks could be worth it for NASCAR who is trying to cut Costs
3: Daytona 500 Qualifying on Wednesday after Super Bowl, Duels on Friday Night, Trucks Moved to Saturday Afternoon and Xfinity at Night
When did they have midweek races?
@@WeebGilroyin 2020 with COVID
@@WeebGilroy 2020
A 34-race schedule would actually be better for NASCAR.
People who work can’t watch on a weekday unless they can get a day or two off.
What a very depressing topic to discuss. The NFL has gotten progressively worse as time has gone on. And no matter what happens in it, there's always going to be a riot. The Daytona 500 is the most prestigious event that America should have, and it should take precedence over the NFL.
But if you want to keep the Super Bowl, why not just send it to cable immediately, like the Southern 500 is with NBC?
I don't know what Nascar plans to do in response to the nfl, but it’s essentially going to be a lose-lose scenario for everyone involved.
Don’t get me started on the Taylor Swift show.
They see dollar signs.
I’m a College Basketball guy I can handle Racing/Basketball overlap in February to March.
NFL is gonna takeover College Basketball time as well.
The Indianapolis 500 and World Series are more deserving of that title
Even The Masters and Kentucky Derby works out better
NASCAR is still a niche sport like soccer, and it primarily only broadly appeals to people in the south and Midwest. Whereas the NFL and football in general? Is a universally loved sport in this country, so you do the math
I don't think the Super Bowl is ever going to be on Cable anytime soon.
The NFL needs to start its regular season before Labor Day
I didn't realize that the Indy 500 has double the amount of people in attendance of the Daytona 500. That's crazy to think about.
Yes.
Because after 2015 Daytona built their new stadium style grandstand and removed all of the seating on the backstretch.
And the attendance for the Indianapolis 500 has actually gone down since the mid 1990s except for the 100th running in 2016.
If im Nascar im standing strong and saying this is our weekend if the casual wants to watch football then watch football and if they wanna watch racing we welcome them with open arms and put out a sale price for the 500 tickets (maybe like buy 3 and get the 4th free or something) and call it the "Superbowl Bowl Family Sale" and sellout the place. Superbowl or not Nascar shouldnt stand there and let other sports bully them out of their weekend.
Can't because FOX has the Super Bowl every 3 years.
So in either words, the NFL is going to bully nascar again. Are we even shocked at this point???
If this happens, Put the 500 at Noon and the Super Bowl at 6:30
I miss seeing the SB in January
That hasn’t happened since the 2002 season, and it will never happen again to be honest.
Me too..that's where it should be.
The last Sunday in January.
If only we had a network that only covered motorsports. F1, INDY, NASCAR, V8 Supercars, Local track figure 8 races, Swamp buggies, ... Maybe name it something like SPEED NETWORK or something like that? O_o
Daytona stand your damn ground, Dale would be proud is you raised hell for him
Move the start time to Noon with a max start time of 2pm to account for weather delay or if not by 2pm, run it the next day.
Make it the NASCAR championship.
(sarcasm). The championship should be the Southern 500 at Darlington Raceway.
I would love that. If the Southern 500 were forced to move again it needs to be an important date
I disagree.
We lost tradition when it moved in 2000s.
One of things many people here argued about.
It sounds like a contradiction.
What do I know?
The problem is any finale will be a parade race with 4 cars racing
Naw Bristol in November would be wild with the same tire they used this past race
@@chrismurray1558 I don't see any championship race being good if there's a final 4 championship because everyon races 25% while the final 4 are the only ones racing for anything
President's Day is barley a holiday. Most people still have to go to work.
I am a NASCAR fan, don't care about Football and haven't since I was in HS and pretended to care (since I was in a football town) but I never understood why the Superbowl wasn't already on Presidents day weekend in the first place
Run the Daytona 500 on the NFL dead weekend before the Super Bowl when the sports world is hungry for something BIG.
You do realize there's a very simple answer to this just get rid of the stupid Pro Bowl and preseason games yes I did it's the NFL but seriously just get rid of the stupid preseason no one watches
Football season needs to start 1 week earlier like they used to do.
Then Goddell wouldn't be talking about having the Super Bowl on President"s Day weekend.
The Daytona 500 has been around longer than the Super Bowl. Therefore they have the claim of the date. Possession is 9/10 of the law, after all.
Bold idea: F the NFL. Battle against them. Theres a small chance NASCAR could beat the NFL, especially in a Southern market who really doesnt care about the NFL and cares more about College Football and NASCAR. Also, moving the NFL up one week might put a head-to-head season opener for College and NFL, and I can tell ya the NFL will lose to CFB easily
In areas that don’t hold value? Sure. But places like Mississippi, Alabama, and Arkansas hold no value to not only the league but football fans in general. The NFL would smoke CFB in literally any other area.
@@IBangedUrMom69420 worthless? The Southeast features three of the biggest markets in the nation (Dallas/Fort Worth, Houston, Atlanta), and if neither of those NFL teams are in the Super Bowl (or even worse, their rival is in the Super Bowl), then there's a great chance they watch NASCAR over NFL. And you underestimate the power college football holds. Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia, Notre Dame, USC, all great names that if one or two went head to head in a prime time match, would easily beat the NFL
I hate that a sport with big dudes hugging each other takes over all sports
Cry about it
Been more of the Taylor Swift Show lately.
@bighand1530 I had an ex gf that loved Taylor swift let me tell you what swift does her fans 1000% go overboard with it like zombies
@@midwesttrainchasers8587 I wouldn’t be shocked one bit with a lot of Swifties no longer caring for the NFL when Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce break up.
@bighand1530 you know for sure they will break up its taylor swift we are talking about
Not even trying to be a hater, I used to be a huge fan of the NFL and football in general. But I don't understand how the viewers just keep rising for the NFL. The product to me is very inferior today than it was 10 or 15 years ago. Players can barely play defense anymore. It feels more like a show than a competition. Course, I feel the same about NASCAR now as well
You're not allowed to hit the quarterback anymore.
Why do you think that Tom Brady was able to play forever.
Disagree with moving it back only. Nascar dropped the ball after Covid. Like you said nascar can’t compete with the nfl….they figured out mid week races during Covid then just foolishly abandoned that! Do a mid week race a month, and we can end the season before the start of the nfl in late August/early September. That will increase ratings. You can even start the season the week of the pro girl and Super Bowl, just start with Saturday evening races. That’s what they SHOULD do….run a few races before the 500 and run the 500 the week after the Super Bowl!
Nope mid week races don't work since they bring in low ratings. You're really asking for less viewers if you want mid week races.
Fuck that. NASCAR had this date first, they should sit on it.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld works for the other sports. And I’m only saying 1 or so per month. We can’t compete with the nfl
If Nascar would fix the package and get rid of this damn aero blocking bullshit and abolish stage racing and the playoffs they would get more fans than the NFL.
I stopped watching NASCAR when they went to stage racing.....
Amen to that, brother.
They need to go back to the original championship with no stages and no 10 race playoff. Championship should be fior all drivers all season.
They should have the Daytona 500 the weekend after the Superbowl.
I truly do not understand why the NFL and Football in general has the following it does...
MARKETING!
Solution just leave the Super Bowl the weekend it is since most people don't even get President's Day off anyways. If they want a longer NFL schedule just start the season a week or two earlier.
One thing they can always do is bump the All-Star race out of May and turn it into a mid-offseason showcase of the 16 drivers that were in the playoffs only. Give Wilkesboro a points date replacing either spring Bristol or spring Martinsville.
The 2 week Olympic break goes away for the next few years, so that will also help. If the drivers and teams are desperate for more off weeks, then throw in a double header or two. It helped with Pocono's attendance the couple of years that they did it. Then bam, your problem for the most part is solved.
To be honest the Daytona 500 used to be later, it wouldn't be that big of a deal. it would probably go back to late February where it used to be.
It was 1 week later from 2012 through 2017.
Also was held 1week later than it is now during the early years of the race
NOTHING would happen until AFTER the current CBA in 2030. btw, the 17 game schedule only passed with a 51%. players will mostly vote AGAINST this
Move it a week earlier but bring back speedweeks. The next weekend off for Super Bowl and everyone’s happy
I see an opportunity here; start the race at 12pm, then have a viewing party at the speedway. Imagine the revenue you would realize. The SB does not start until 6:15pm anyways. The fans that ATTEND the 500 are different than the fans the ATTEND the Super Bowl. What a party speed week that would be.
If it is moved, it won't be "The Daytona 500" anymore.
I’m not even an avid watcher of NASCAR. Actually, because of family, I happen to watch NFL (unwilling lol) more than NASCAR. But this. This. As a car guy and a person who loves to watch NASCAR when I can and when I remember to, this just hurts. And obviously, if you’ve read the first part of my comment, the Daytona 500 and the Super Bowl would KILL me. Literally the second I heard you say the Super Bowl and the Daytona 500 on the same day, I paused and went “We’d be lucky if the world’s power supply doesn’t explode.” Idk if y’all get what I mean by that.
Ok? Just shift it back a week. Not a big deal at all.
Fuck the NFL. Keep President's Day weekend.
Idk how many are like me. The only thing on super bowl sunday is the super bowl.
Every other program chickens out of that day because it's the super bowl, increasing the problem.
Does everyone watch it because it's the only thing on? How many would like to watch something else? Will we ever find out?
Another random thought. With major cable choosing football over other sports, will the streaming services change the game?
Me: okay 🤷🏻♂️ move the Daytona 500 to MLK weekend since that's a major American long weekend holiday. Season can start on the third weekend of January and finish somewhere in October.
Also you can move the Rolex 24 to the first week of January and make that an incredible deal being the first major race of the year.
I will never watch NFL over NASCAR NO Way
How about rescheduling the Truck race to Thursday night, the Xfinity race to Friday night, and run the Cup race on Saturday, the day before the Super Bore.
Start the Daytona 500 at 12 ET on Super Bowl Sunday. There's never anything good on TV that day and it'll be over with well before the Super Bowl starts.
Nope the NFL has a 6 hour pre game show. Terrible idea.
Not only that, if FOX is broadcasting the Super Bowl (like they are next year)- there’s just no way to pull that off.
It’s sad to see that my dad was right 20 years ago about the nfl eventually taking out nascar
The best solution I have is keeping it the way it is
Daytona is a hot bed of mechanized movement for the entire month of February. Bike week is early in the month and speed weeks are immediately following. It's not just the 500. There's many series running.
Actually…. NASCAR could go into the auto market based around the simplicity of the cars they are racing. Bare bones stock cars with V8 engines, stiff chassis, and electrical systems limited to starters. Make it a 4 door sedan, a 2 seater pickup truck, and add an SUV class that mimics the trucks Robby Gordon is in now. Inexpensive to buy & maintain with parts that fit everything.
Well 1. As someone who was recently out of town for Presidents Day weekend, the Super Bowl will inevitably affect those plans negatively. I already have to rush back to watch the 500 enough. 2. Seems actually like the Southern 500 will get the brunt of the NFL crunch over the 500. Go for broke and move the Southern 500 to Monday night or concede Labor Day to the NFL; bit of a Sophie's Choice I will admit. The 500 will be fine in some capactity. In fact, I for one would welcome moving in back later in February so I can actually devote an entire Sunday to it instead of "Oh, here's the race" after traveling. 3. Sounds like Indycar and IMSA (and short course off road racing) had the right idea all along of wrapping things up by September. 3. Now that I said that, something tells me the back half of NASCAR's schedule including the playoffs is going to be a complete ratings writeoff and liability and with the booming popularity of the NFL NASCAR will have to keep their eye on what to do going forward. Lastly, at the end of the day, this will be Fox's call on what to do for better or worse so best we can do is hope nothing comes of this
As a fan of both, nothing can compete with the NFL. I think most NFL fans would be opposed to two bye weeks before the Super Bowl. One week is more than enough to bloviate about the upcoming event. If Goddell is talking about 18 games, it will probably happen eventually as long as the players association agrees. And, they are easily manipulated.
Stand up to the NFL. They should not be allowed to push the other sports around whenever they want to.
That sucks if that happens. That weekend has always been for Nascar. I don't care about football at all. If the race is a week early or a eek later it will be lame either way. Nascar's opening race on a 3 day weekend has always been awesome. Why does NFL need to stretch it out that far? Its Nascar season by then.