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I full time with hubby.. found out I had breast cancer in october.. landed in Georgia , had my surgery , double mastectomy, at University Hospital.. they were fantastic.. just completed treatment! All clear, for now at least!! Take life as it comes, and enjoy each day, no need to give up the rv life cause hiccups occur!! ♡♡♡
Rachel Hall I had a double mast, chemo & radiation in 2016...clear scans ever since. God is good! Blessings to you as you continue to heal. Prayers for safety and a wonderful Christmas to you and your family. ❤️Jane O.
@@mikemanjo2458 thank you so much.. still healing, but onward and upward.. we host in georgia state park system, and they have been just absolutely wonderful through all of this. I found out during the trip from PA to here..
So glad you are doing better! I pray you for your continued improvement in your health! Thank you so much for sharing your story. We really appreciate you.
Thank you Jane for sharing your story. Prayers for you!
My wife had same and was cancer free after surgery. Hang in there Rachel, it will get better with time. You made the right choice.
I bought some orange cones from Home Depot and stenciled “city property” and “official use only” on them to put in front of my class A when I’m concern about getting blocked in. Works like a charm.
Clever!
This just happened to me with my travel trailer. Here’s what I found. The heart of the propane system is the regulator, which regulates the PSI from the propane tank (which is roughly 250 PSI) down to less than 10 PSI to operate your RV appliances. There is a safety valve within the regulator that is designed so shut off all flow to the RV if it senses too much flow, in case there was a breach of the propane system. What can happen is, after you refill a tank, if you open the valve too quickly, it can cause the regulator to think there is a leak in the system, and activate the safety valve, allowing no propane to the whole rig. The fix is to shut off the propane valve, and let it sit closed for about 5 minutes, which allows the safety valve to re-open or reset. Then slowly open the propane valve. If that doesn’t work, it’s likely a bad regulator. Whenever all of your propane appliances don’t work, and the tank is full, and you have no leaks, the problem is the regulator. It’s always a good idea to carry an extra propane regulator in an RV. They are quite cheap as well. Hope this helps!
Richard is dead on. They can get stuck as well, a little bit of tapping on the regulator with the butt of a screwdriver can persuade it to reset.
Great advice and insight. Thanks!
I did the same thing. Normally just tapping the regulator will get the propane flowing again.
01:05 After driving trucks for about 12 years let me give you some advice on parking in a situation like that. Always make your plans for exiting before you even park. If you have a long row of parking like that then try to make sure the nose of your rig is pointed slightly out and as far down to the end as you can get so that you control what can and cannot park in front of you. If you are parking at some place like a Walmart (where you have to park across multiple parking lines / spots) try to get the nose up to the last spot before the concrete curb but not all the way covering the spot. That leaves you enough room to maneuver out but not so much room that someone parks there.
That we normally do Nathan. When we parked there was another truck in front of us. I had left myself plenty of room to get out. The guy that parked to close was actually across the spot line in our spot. Lesson learned as always!
@@todayissomeday ive been able to back up enough to get out without unhitching our flatoad. Just keep steering straight for the 3 ft or so you need. Also have in situations where I need another six inches or so in a tight turn with no ill effect on the car. We flat tow a 2013 Ford Edge 4x4.
In my commercial driving days, that was called the smiths driving system which is called leave yourself an out.
I know the reason we are told to never back up a flat tow is that you cannot control what the steering wheels do on your toad, and if they go the wrong way it is easy to bend the tow bar. I have never tried it but have been told by others that in that situation it is easier to put someone in the toad and let them pull the MH backwards. This keeps everything straight and if on level ground it takes very little effort to move the bus. Most of our Frieghtliner and Spartan chassis have a huge amount of wheel cut. I have practiced with my Journey and know how close I can be to an object in front of me and still clear with full wheel cut. I can clear with only 10' of space. I have had this happen to me a few times, and most of the time it is just an unaware driver. On a couple occasions it was blatantly obvious it was intentional. All I can say it that sometimes people disappoint you.
Thanks for joining us today! Dont forget #Fisherhouse
Fisher House is an awesome charity. My Masonic Lodge donates regularly. Safe travels folks.
Ok, I understand a vehicle parked in front of you a Buckee's but you didn't have anyone behind you so you could have backed up about 4ft easily and then pulled out. I understand that not everyone can back up, but five foot shouldn't have parked there...
If it's only one thing I've learned, don't wait or trade your dreams ... make them happen. I gave away, let go, of my dreams for someone else and have regretted that. Now, I'm close to the end and more regrets than hopefuls or have-dones. List your dreams by the importance to YOU and then set out to make as many as you can a reality. Again ... have fun making what you dream of come true!!!!
Phil you were on the right track by attempting to purge with the stove and opening the valve slowly. The problem was most likely a vapor lock or freezing at the valve by possibly, but doubtfully, overfilling. I’ve had the same issue several times over the last 40 + years of RV’ing. What I’ve always done is shut the valve off and pour some warm water over the valve. Gently tapping the valve at the same time will also help to free the valve. This DOESN’T mean beat it with a hammer. Too much butane was not the problem. Merry Christmas and see you in Tampa.
Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge!! Safe travels and Merry Christmas
When you get into cold weather after filling your lp tanks grow a blanket over the fill spout for a couple hours. The air in thank plus the gas combined with colder weather will give a reaction that will freeze the regulator a blanket will help with that. Safe travels.
We had this same thing happen to us this past fall. We had a long weekend trip planned to Branson MO, The week before we went I took a propane tank out to have refilled so I would have both tanks full. After getting it filled I put it back in our 5th wheel and didn't think to much about it. I knew that the weekend was going to be our first cold weekend of the year so I also threw a small electric heater in the 5th wheel too. So my wife and I where so excited about getting away for the weekend for the first time without kids in many many years! So we left right after work at 5 and it is about a 6 hour drive and on the way down there I even made a comment I hope the furnace works! So we pulled into our KOA about 10:30 that evening got all set up and NO HEAT! and it was 36 degrees out! I mess around with it and mess around with it! Turned it back and forth from one tank to the other, went in and turned on the Stove to get air out of the lines! And it would light and then go out! The same thing you where going through! So about 11:30 I threw another blanket on the bed plugged in the small heater and tried to sleep! I posted a post on Facebook about what was going on and was getting the same answer you guys where getting on what to do! So the next morning I got up about 7 and started messing with it again and all of a sudden it decided to work!!! Don't know what the deal was!
Its crazy!! Who knows what really happened!
My first time watching. After watching subscribed. Phil, I heard you were in the military. Thank you for your service!
Thank you!
The valve was frozen from filling. Next time pour a cup of warm water on the valve.
They always turn your gas off when they fill your tank,sometimes the operator is not very up in how to fill a propane tank and it could easily have been something he did when he topped off your tank. You do have a solinoid powered valve as well,and he could have slugged that valve too. Just make sure the manual valve is open after filling and be sure to turn the electric valve on and off a couple of times as well. He could also have bled your gas line out when he said he had to Purge your tank,he's full of S-it on that!
Maybe!! Thanks so much for the info
Propane- For months, when I'd take our portable tanks to be filled, I was told multiple times that the tanks weren't empty (even though they'd behave that way) and there was air in the tank. Finally they stopped working altogether. We started at the low end of remove and replace and got a new regulator. Voila! Works perfectly now.
Thanks for the info!
You, Me & the RV The same thing happened to me in November. I turned on the furnace before lightning a burner or two to purge the air before I started the furnace. I remembered lit the burners the tried to start the furnace still no heat. Fortunately I had a portable electric heater that got us through the night. I woke up the next morning walked over to the thermostat and the heat kicked right on and no trouble afterwards. I think overnight the rest of the air evacuated from the system. I hope this helps.
First, enjoyed the video. It's amazing how something fun starts turning out to be more like work sometimes. I know you put a lot of work into these videos. Second.... * hours driving.... when I was a young stud I did that all the time, sometimes 18 hours but now I'm an old dog and NEVER again. I leave by 9 and stop by 3. Oh well so much for us.. keep your videos coming.
You are right it is a LOT of work but I am still loving it. I gotta tell you we are loving our short trips around Florida. We need to work on making sure we have time for shorter drives
Top Sail Preserve State Park just west of where you camped at Grayton Beach also has full hookups. Beautiful beach at both locations.
Everytime you refill your propane tank, you have residual pressure within the tank which will accumulate over time reducing the ammt of actual product you can put into the tank. Keep in mind, propane is a gas until it's compressed into a liquid. Every few fill ups, bleed off all the air prior to refilling (small brass thumb screw) it should have a round red label stating vapor on it.
Hi guys, were Michel and Micheline. we are watching yours videos for a week almost all day long. We are rviing part-time since the last 16 years. After watching your video on that cold night in Florida, I have decided to write you about it. I have work in an oil refinery for 35 years. Purging and flushing line was very common. The next time something like this happen, Just keep flushing your propane lines with the propane stove, until you get a steady flame for a couple of minutes. Try to start your propane furnace. It should be ok. Of not, keep purging your propane line with the stove burners. Eventually, your furnace will start. Keep doing the good works. We love your videos.
MnM from Canada.
Sounds like he overfilled the tank. If the liquid is too high, I,ve seen it freeze as it comes out of the valve. Love your videos. #fisherhouse
Thanks!
Not overfilling as the valve shuts off intake when full. Appears to be safety valve issue as stated above. Check to make sure working at 12v. Also tap on it as probably froze due to moisture. It released after warming up.
@@RAINWOLFEN THanks
I've had the same issue with overfilled tanks. It's LP, Liquified Petroleum, and when they overfill, it can put liquid in the system to the point where you have to disassemble the lines and blow them out or replace components that are ruined. They had used a 100lb LP tank on our destination model which was over filled severely, lots of liquid shot out of the lines, dosen't sound like yours was that watered down.
Propane: some propane regulators will do that if the tank valve is opened too fast.
Hi guys. We had the same exact thing happen to our Winnebago. Don’t know what it was. The next day it just worked. It was after filling up at flying j too. We turn on the gas extremely slow now because research has shown that it could have been the pressure regulator or the excess flow valve. Hope it helps people. Sorry. Somehow we missed this episode :(
The propane tank has a safety feature that in case of an accident the valve will close off the propane automatically. If one turns on the tank too fast it will activate, most cases turning the tank off then slowly turn it back on will fix this. Some times not, like you found. Turn the gas off, some times you can thump the valve with something heavy like a block of wood, to reset the valve, or in your case driving with it off does it too.
So wish I could talk the other half into taking the jump. Might have to do it anyway. 71 years old , couple issues want it no matter what. Envy your youth.
You will love it!!!
take the other half on a longer trip
All hail Buc-ee's!! We live in Texas and stop at them all the time. Only place I know, that a brisket sandwich can cost upwards of $30.00.....LOL
That is so true!! hahahaha
Don't forget the beaver nuggets! 😂
@@joe-aj0yz Their banana pudding is OMG off the chain! If your a fan, you will not be disappointed.
We stopped in Deadwood late one day in the early fall. Decided to put a frozen pizza in the oven, but no gas. It turns out that the 12 volt solenoid that shuts off the gas had broken of at the wire connection. I had two small jumper wires with small alligator clips and was able to just barely get enough of a grip on the broken connections to get the pizza cooked. There is always something to make the trip interesting. Keep up the great CZcams Channel #Fisherhouse
Yikes....glad you had a fix for it. We are glad it fixed itself. LOL
Sorry, had to wait until husband woke up! He has 30+ years in propane. He thinks it the safety valve that had burp in it. He said test the volts on it, should be 12 volts. Also water in the safety valve, but doubt it. Trying tap it lightly. He said that hates safety valves for they mess up all the time. But most likely some freaky thing that happen and you will never know!
Thank you so much for the info!! Nothing like experience to teach us newbies!
We did one of those cooking classes in Cozumel. Another lesson learned: when the Margaritas are unlimited, you don't remember much about the cooking class. My daughter was with us and has some very incriminating video of me salsa dancing, and bubba doesn't dance.
Hahahaha! That is funny!
Loved seeing an Officer doing KP duty Merry Christmas . Hope you enjoy your time in Florida #Fisher House
Me too!! Now to get him to do it a bit more!
@@todayissomeday Tell him you want that for a Christmas Present
@@duanecasada1766 If only it were that easy!
My cindy and I watch you guys all the time. We're simi-full time RVers out west.
We saw this episode on loosing your propane feed from your tank. If the propane provider had "dirty" propane it could have put some moisture in your tank. The moisture can freeze right at the fitting leaving the tank. If it happens again try using a hair dryer to warm the area. Using up the propane will also eliminate the problem.
I enjoy watching your videos. Thanks for the information you post. Related to your propane issue. I have seen this problem several times. I suspect your problem most likely was the gas line had air in it. You didn't say how many times you lit the stove. If you put a lit match near the eye of the stove and turn the eye on, watch the flame of the match. If the gas line is pressurized, it will blow the flame and you can tell there is pressure. If there is pressure, most likely, you just need to continue lighting the stove to purge the gas line of Air. The pressure will eventually force the air out of the line. Sometimes, the stove will light, then go back out, and will have to be re-lit several times, until all the air is purged from the gas line. If the stove does not stay lit after about the 3rd try, then re-check with a match that you still have pressure at the stove eye.
If there is no pressure, then you have something preventing flow from the tank to your gas line. At that point, try what Buzz suggested.
When the gas valve supplying the coach is closed, it will quite often fill with air and have to be purged before everything works again.
It sounds like it was AIR in the propane lines.
That is what I thought
Michael French #Fisherhouse
I thought the same thing. Oxygen tanks works the same.. purge the oxygen tank and you are good to go
Perhaps if you exchange that Broncos' toque and shirt for a Seahawks one, you would be warmer. :-)
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#FISHERHOUSE. We have been guests of a Fisher House on Walter Reed in Bethesda. It was a wonderful stay and took so much stress from the situation.
Thank you for sharing your story. It shows what a wonderful organization they are for military
My old 102 yo house in TN has no AC and no heat ... no fireplaces either. Not unusual for freezing and below. I learned the value of layering, but it's still cold. If I had an RV and could afford it, I'd probably do as you do, but I'm 70yo, live alone with my dogs, so affording it won't happen. have fun you two!!!
watch changing lanes or rv love for the TDS fuel card save $$$$$ on fuel at the big truck stops
Concur. TSD has given us huge diesel savings at Love's, so far!
We have it and love the savings!
Too much butane mix and the cold temperatures it won't atomize to burn. Higher temperatures no problem.
Thanks for the info
Yes ... but I have used my furnace at -20C in Algonquin Park Ontario. I think the main thing might well have been some ice forming during filling that restricted the flow. Filling their tank seemed to be the stimulus. Travel safe. Henri
I was basing my comment from some research I was doing on propane issues/troubleshooting. The research showed that the butane mix was predominantly in the southern states but propane supplies in the northern states and Canada didn't have this issue and therefore could function in negative temperatures.
I'm thinking your propane issue is the regulator. Between topping off the tank and getting in cooler weather it wasn't letting enough gas through. Ya possibly driving down the road may have loosened something up but it was probably more of a temperature issue and weak regulator. Thanks for the videos.
36 degrees that's just good snuggling weather. Snuggle up!
I'm guessing you are getting solar installed.
I will neither confirm or deny! lol
@@todayissomeday lol
We love the solar we got installed by Pullen Solar. This will make boondocking so much easier. IF you're getting solar that is! lol
@@Proost1 We love Andrew!! So glad to hear he was your installer!
@@todayissomeday He did great! For this Sailor suffering from the standard "Attention to Detail Disorder," he really did amazing work!
Propane needs to settle after being jostled around especially in cold weather. The liquid needs time to settle to allow the gas to form at the top. Yes, always turn the propane on slowly and test any appliance to assure adequate flow of gas.
My husband served 31 years in the CG and is on Tricare Select but in April it will convert to Tricare For Life so he will be able to see any doctor anywhere. He had both feet operated on a month apart and was off his feet for over 2 months. We stayed in one place during his recovery. Then I broke my left ankle in April and severely sprained my right ankle and was in a casr, then boot for two months. Hope 2020 is a better year!
I hope it is a better year for you guys too!! You have earned a year without health issues!!
Had this happen once on the west coast. Temps in the low 40's, very high humidity and full tanks. We had a lot of propane units running (generator, cook stove, water heater and furnace) all at the same time. Turned out the line frosted at the tank regulator. Got that thawed out and every thing worked fine. Gas absorbs heat when it expands which cools the lines. (Maybe Bernoulli's Principle or something like that)
We appreciate #Fisherhouse we stayed in one at Balboa Hospital in San Diego a few yrs ago. Our son was shot while in Afghanistan, (he was in the Marines) there are no words to express how thankful we were to be able to stay so close and spend our time with our son in those early days of surgery/recovery! Excellent physicians and staff too at Balboa Hospital
Glad there was one close by! Hopefully, he made a speedy recovery!! Both of kids were born at Balboa!
Been in the propane business for 25 years (also retired Army). First thing there is no summer or winter propane.. Really only 3 things your problem could have been. If your service valve has an excess flow and you opened it to quickly that would shut it off, which could explain it. 2 if the tank was filled too close to 100%, then liquid propane got into the regulator and froze the orifice essentially shutting it down, then once it warmed up outside the orifice warmed and it opened up. 3 the regulator is going bad, which happened to us a couple years ago. It stopped working then worked again a couple times before I switched the regulator (to an a Marshall made in the US) and never had the problem again. Thanks for the great videos, thanks for your service and good luck!
Thanks so much for chiming in!!
Sail switch in these furnace. Driving bouncing around will make it click around makes it start working. I've had this issue with my RV furnace multiple times. Its time for a company to step up and make a quality product. Just my thoughts.
Hi guys, just wanted to say you brighten our day down under. Agree with all the comments about temperature and not overfilling. Also as a motorcyclist there is a wind chill factor, so even if the temperature is 40 degrees and you are driving for any distance exposed components like the propane tank get colder than ambient air temperature. As an experiment, next time you are driving and it is cold pop your hand out the window! Brrr!
Thanks Mike! We can't wait to visit down under!!!
Hey guys. Not going to read all your comments on the propane but I did see a few mentioned "freezing". My Georgie boy did that once. Replaced the regulator, nothing.. Below freezing means no heat. For a temporary fix I just left a work light by regulator and had a few 20's with no problem!
Oh, then I traded it! Lol
In Ocala myself till the first of Jan then first trip out West!! Woohoo.
Be safe!.
Merry Christmas!!
Phil, I used to work in a Hardware and we filled propane tanks and if it got over filled it would trip a check valve if the tank is opened to fast after filling you would get limited or no flow. One was to reset the check valve is to, 1, don't open the valve to fast or it will trip and 2, if it trips close the tank completely then open the valve real slow and you should be good to go. You do this and you should have heat in no time.
Let me know if you ever have to do this and how well it worked for you. Good luck.
Scott
Time to consider a diesel fired heater. Leave propane for cooking only. Diesel is easy to get and have a existing large chassis tank. If long term boondocking in cold area can refill with 5 gallon portable containers with your Jeep. Might be a good video to show the diesel heat options and initial cost and if longterm savings are possible switching to diesel heat. You will soon have solar upgrade.
Cook with lots of love and your meal will always be perfect. My advice.
AGREED!!
Hi Guys, I'll Keep this short - I think you may be experiencing intermittent frozen LP lines. There is a device called a U-gauge that is used to measure gas line pressure . You could look and follow along your LP lines in the rig, and insulate anywhere you can imagine the lines would freeze up - it only takes a small area to prevent the flow of gas. You could also wrap the lines with heat-tape for use in colder weather. Also, tap the regulator when the issue comes up to make sure the valve is not stuck closed, and maybe wrap insulation around it. Hope this helps.
Those are all great tips John....thanks a ton!!!
@@todayissomeday Go Army - Next year!
I have been told when filling your propane tank that air gets into the filling line a little at a time and eventually you need to purge the air out. It takes a while to purge and usually will fix the problem. With the 20 and 30 LB tanks it is easy to do but I suggest you have the propane guy purge it for you when you fill up. As far as the Class A tank I am unsure. Stay safe and Hoo-Yah America.
Hand Salute!
The propane problem will be eliminated by insulating the tanks AND the regulator in temps below 40 F depending on the humidity in the area you will be in. That is why some say they have no problem in negative degree temp with their propane working properly is because those areas have a very low humidity level thus rarely any problems. We see this problem in Kansas all the time especially if wind is involved. Try this to see if it doesn't eliminate your problem. Insulating your tanks and the regulator then cover them to protect them from the wind should prevent any problem, especially in areas with high humidity AND wind
You vent off your propane tank 45 seconds if there is no flow. If still no luck then vent again in 20 second intervals while checking for flow to the coach. Happens to all style propane tanks.
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I think your propane issue was a regulator lock. Next time disconnect the bottle leave off.. then turn on a stove burner... this should equalize both sides.. then shut off burner and hook up tank. This should reset the regulator. It worked for me!
I don't know why I'm just seeing this video, but I must say Phil the beard is awesome, you should sport that look more often. Join the bearded life!
We use a 1500 watt bathroom heater to heat with, excellent, we hardly ever use propane, staying total electric ! We do use some propane as we travel or boondocking, unless I have to fire up our generator ! Rambling !
Great that you are supporting the #Fisherhouse
Thanks so much!
I go to the Omaha NE VA facility for my medical care. They're doing a LOT of construction at the site; one of the features is a new Fisher House. Love the idea, so #FISHER HOUSE! Am so pleased the propane problem is now part of your trip history. Y'all Be Safe!
Its called a Vapor Lock all you needed to do is Bleed the stove a little longer when lighting
Hey Ma, hey PA. Lol at least you had winter clothes. I always have a ceramic heater with me in the coach. I put up front and aim to the back. It will almost run you out of the coach.
HAD A ISSUE WITH A WEAK BATTERY. I'M NO EXPERT BUT I FIGURED THERE WASN'T ENOUGH JUICE IN THE BATTERY TO SPARK THE IGNITOR. ENDED UP BUYING 2 6 VOLT GOLF CART BATTERIES, WIRED TO MAKE 12 VOLTS. REPLACED THE CONVERTER/CHARGER AND NO MORE ISSUES. FRIDGE FIRES UP WATER HEATER FIRES UP AND THE HEATER. SOLVED
Air in the tank is a 'thing'. Propane is heavier than air so it sinks. I suspect there was air in your tank. This is why propane safety detectors are usually installed low down. Specifically, I cannot say what went wrong but you can be pretty sure it has to do with air in your tank.
Loved the cooking segment. Fun activity idea. Everyone support #Fisherhouse
Thanks Diane!
The guy compressed the air in the tank as he filled it. He should have let it bleed off as he filled the tank until only a little propane leaked out. The bottom line is you were on mostly air for a while. Propane is heavier than air so the air mixed with some propane came off first and didn’t have much heat value. Next time make sure the person knows how to bleed the tank as they are filling it and that your bleed valve is working.
Wait? You guys are so nice. I would've interrupted their meal and asked them to move the vehicle! Aloha
The Tank is full reducing space for vapor, the L.P. is cold and not flashing to gas fast enough to support the furnace, Try Buzz's idea and warm the tank.
On your propane lose , if you have a small leak or you did not shut something all the way off , you will get frozen lines or regulator , it will thaw over time and be usable again
Thanks for all the cool info. My wife and i are just gettting started RVing. I am retired mil....navy years ago and then army. Love watching you two.
OMG that pasta...I started drooling
Guys this is John chalker from Waterbury Connecticut my uncle Peter told me that's some flying J's has air in their especially when it gets cold outsidewhat happens if the air takes a while to come out of the lines and you have to prime it for about a couple of hours by letting the air out of the lines in your rig by doing your what you were doingbecause some flying J's have been known to have air in their lines when when it gets cold outside because their system is not vented
Thanks for the heads up. We will be more aware the next time.
We had that same problem with our propane once. We were told that the propane had frozen. I guess it usually doesn’t happen if you have a fuller tank. Our tank had less than a quarter at the time. Not sure if that could have been your problem as you had filled up, unless what was in the pipes had already frozen. Can’t say how accurate this is, just what we were told! We were just ahead of you on the same trip 😉 We’re settled in northern FL or we’d come meet you!
Hope you are staying warm and enjoying Florida.
Propane can freeze, but it wasn’t cold enough at 36f to freeze it.
Faith In Christ from what I researched, propane freezes at -44 degrees! So I’m fairly sure it didn’t get cold enough. 😉 But it seems that the regulator can freeze up and that can block your propane flow. Here is an article on the subject. I don’t don’t know if that is what happened here, just that it happened to us and is something to be aware of.
www.hunker.com/13414884/how-to-keep-a-propane-tank-from-freezing-up
God bless! 🙌🏻
I once saw a sign in Dunellon, Florida It went something like this "Tiny says never trust a skinny cook". It says alot. So Phil's eating his food is a good sign. Maybe he has a future in the culinary field. As far as being in your own little world I think Phil's been there his whole life. Keep the good stuff coming.
I resemble that remark! Wait......what? LOL
Hopefully the weather in Florida will be warmer. We had a run in with losing heat when we were in Little Rock last month. 5 AM and 28 degrees is a bad time to lose heat! We are getting ready to head to MacDill for a couple of months. Looking forward to the Tampa RV show and the Sarasota Tiffin rally.
Thank you for supporting the Fisher House. That is an organization near to my heart. They took care of my pregnant wife while I was in Portsmouth Naval Hospital.
So far so good! We can't wait for the Tampa show! We are so glad that we chose the Fisher House....so many have donated. Love hearing stories of how the Fisher House has helped so many families!
OK, this video made me smile big time. I used to work sales at a Sur La Table (SLT) in Columbus, OH where I also periodically worked as a Kitchen Assistant in our training kitchen. The one you were in looked a lot newer, but it had many of the same features as many of the SLT kitchens have. I have two binders filled with recipes from my time as a KA and I could make a different dish every night for a year and not repeat a recipe. I don't work there anymore as we're about to start our own full time RVing Adventure next year with our new rig, but this video brought back a lot of good memories in the kitchen. Thanks for sharing that experience. I highly that recommend anyone take one of their classes. You need to book early for the better classes and they usually list them online 2-3 months in advance. Also you can bring your own beverage at most of the 2 hour classes, but drink responsibly as you could be using sharp knives cutting up your ingredients as part of the class.
Very cool! Everything was delicious but it was not a quick fix!
Propane tanks do not want to be filled beyond 80%, so if it was filled more than 80% maybe it had to let some pressure off before the lines would fill with propane this is true with any propane tank
Good luck and enjoy your love watching your videos
We purchased our RV from a private party and had exactly the same issues that you did. It turns out that the propane tank had been over filled and some of the liquid propane got into the regulator. After that sometimes the propane stove/furnaces would work and sometimes they didn't. I replaced the regulator and haven't had any problems since.
I don't know if that was the "Correct" solution, but it worked for us.
I left north GA 4 days ago and got to central Virginia near Lynchburg. I got in late probably 10 p.m. and it got down to 19 degrees. I boonedocked until the camp ground office opened in the morning. I thought I had more propane than I had. It ran out at 3 a.m. lol. I spent the rest of the morning in my warm truck. Haha
Not good at all!!! We never want to run our completely!
Best thing you can do to purge your system Is to loosen the gas line to either the furnace or range and allow some propane out. Then re tighten line and try to re light furnace or range Had it happen once before, and this worked Merry Christmas
Thanks Vance! Merry Christmas!
We are from northern Saskatchewan, a province Canada. My old house was heated with propane. Propane can freeze when it’s low in the tank and super cold- but your looking at it been more like 10-15 degrees at the warmest to worry about that.
We had the same problem you did in our campervan this summer. We’d been down in the states, and we got home in time for winter. We had about a half tank and we topped up the propane, then drove down a nasty bumpy trail... and had the same problem you did. It was in that 10-20f area, and we ended up FREEZING our hinies off even with our warm sleeping bags. A friend told us that the propane in the line had gelled. It was quite hit and miss when it works right now, we had to run the generator and borrow a little electric heater.
The main advice we have, is don’t fill up in weather below about 50f.
Our problem was we went into Canadian winter, and there is no real warming up til spring... in our case, thankfully, we were on our way home to sticks and bricks.
Maybe that was it...it was below 50 outside. Great advice! We can't wait to visit Canada!!!!
You, Me & the RV it truly is lovely up here. Especially if you get off the beaten path. The Rockies are great, but they really are just big mountains covered in tourists and very expensive. If you go, stick to the ends of the season (early May and sept-October), and during the week. Get your groceries and fill up on fuel before you get to the parks as it is very expensive there. Bc is beautiful but somewhat over rated. If you like to see different things, I’d suggest you go up through the Rockies, then over the grand cache Alberta, then across through the northern parts. You will find some great boondocking but it is different up here than down there- especially in the parks. We don’t have blm land or dispersed camping. From there I’d head east and take the northern route and the road less travelled. But if you come to a gravel road, reroute yourselves for sure.
We had the same issue with our propane refrigerator, the same issue it's just air in the line/tank if you'd have kept the stove on and kept running it to bleed out the air you would have probably been able to use your heater
Your no heat could have been a little worse if you were in our shoes the other night! We are here in TN for Christmas with our kids and our Aqua Hot went out that evening at around 7 pm and temps went down to 19 degrees. It was a balmy 40 in the coach by morning.
On the propane, you just didn't bleed it long enough, as you had air in the lines. Not sure why, but you have to remember, the gas is coming through a very small orfice and it does some times, take awhile to bleed out the air.
Now that is cold!
Come on down… it’s been a little chilly at night but not too too bad. I landed in Arcadia it’s nice and quiet here...
Go to the IRV2 Forum. They had a wonderful discussion about this very thing a couple of weeks ago. If "Old Bisquit" gives advice, heed it. He really knows what he is talking about.
Gotta love "Old Bisquit"! LOL
Thanks for your service and what you are doing for Fisher House #fisherhouse
Thanks so much!
Consider a mr. heater as a back up. Also it’s like a camp fire under the awning any time. We use it in our rig when we are boon docking .so toasty
We have one......back in our storage unit in San Antonio! DOH!
#fisherhouse.....hubby said the guy that filled your tanks overfilled them and they just needed bled. You bleeding them was the road to fixing it.
I hope that's all it was.
I've seen large RV's take up 4 parking spaces so they don't have to wait for someone to move their vehicle. It's too bad that people are that inconsiderate to trap you in a parking spot when there is an entire lot to use. Great campground in Florida!
It was amazing!!
Similar Propane experience - my tanks were removed to refill. After reconnecting, NOTHING worked. Long story short, we thought the tanks were connected, but after disconnecting and reconnecting both tanks, we found they weren’t connected properly. Also, carry ceramic electric heater to get heat when your gen set is running. Too much draw WILL blow a breaker, or main fuse.. experience tells the full story.
We learn something new everyday!
Whenever you have to purge your propane turn your gas stove on until you can lite it and it will stay lit. If you ever run out of propane start at the stove and then work your way to the other appliances. It's the best way I know of to purge the air from your propane tank. It sounds like you just needed to stick with the stove a bit longer
Grayton Beach is only 4 miles down the bike path from our S&B. This is one key reason we will never be a full timer! We live in Paradise when not traveling! Glad you enjoyed the area. Seaside and Watercolor are amazing. We would love to host you next time you are in the area.
We will see you at the Rally if not in Tampa!
Awesome! See you there.
I've taken cooking classes in the past and they are so much fun. Drying off my protein is my take away from this video. So simple and I never learned it or didn't pay attention. Also I love the state park you stayed at in FL. It's gorgeous. I am getting so many tips and ideas from all your videos, including ideas on what to purchase to make long trips easier, ways to keep us safe, and especially using military health benefits. I retire in March 2021 and so am soaking up your knowledge. Thank you for sharing!
always have a small electric portable heater. you can get them as small as 200 Watts
RV Propane System Introduction - Tank and Refill go there to find out more...the first part, to the left of this. Oh yea navy guy,,,the bow blog.
36 Degrees that what we call hot hot hot in England,Yorkshire it rains most of the time.
In the Bible I think it says it rained for 36 days and nights,This is English summer time for us.
Hi guy’s, same propane problem happened to me in our Montana toy hauler, my buddy told me to unhook the line and then rebook. I don’t know if it’s a regulator thing but it fixed the problem right away, Wayne from Windsor Ontario Canada
Been all over Texas and have never saw a Bucee. That museum is well worth it.
if the tank is opened to fast it can freeze the line,then you close the line and give it time to thaw and open it again, That is a guess from years ago when pro pain was used as a motor fuel
I am delighted my comment was of help . HAPPY 2020
I had this LP problem a few times and it's always moisture inside the LP regulator. I have to bring it in a warm place and put a paper towel in the small hole to wick the moisture out and than it's all good under freezing temperatures.
There's a very small air hole in the body of the regulator that must be open to work. Sometimes moisture will get inside the regulator and when below freezing will stop up the air hole causing the regulator to stop working and when the temperatures warm up the regulator starts working again. I can send you a picture of the piece of paper towel rolled like a very small wick inside the vent hole of the regulator.
I hope this helps
#FISHERHOUSE Great news double your goal, I know mine was a little extra and I'm guessing a lot of others did the same. We can't make the Tampa show in January but will be going to Tampa in April to start looking at RV's. We are getting there!
Thanks Sandi! It has been a great campaign for the Fisher House....we have more than doubled the goal!!
Not sure I agree with the gentleman that filled your LP up about dead space and purge. I changed out my fill valve year before last and, being open to the elements for some weeks and, of course completely empty it needed a purge which worked fine with the new fill up. To me it sounds like a regulator was stuck temporarily but, thats a guess. Glad for you guys in not having to spend money unnecessarily
On my way west I had the same not staying one after a fillup. I had to replace one connection hose, (mine are outside tanks 2 30# tanks) as there are two. The propane guys said it was loose. Then when I got to CG and hooked up I went to turn propane one and heard a hiss out of the other hose so I immediately shut it down and went to get the other one. After that they have work great again.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience.