HOW TO 3D Print a Collapsible Gandalf Staff
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- čas přidán 29. 07. 2018
- Britt received a fun challenge from her friend and past college professor to create a Gandalf the White Staff that could collapse for easy travel.
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Punished Props Academy, have you seen any of the weapons and costumes from the videogame "Bastion"? I think you'd enjoy making some of them.
The Bastion style is super beautiful! Transistor, as well!
Where the hell did you get a life size sweeper bot!?
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Hey super cool! I'm the original designer of the file, Jamundsen. Thanks for using the file and giving credit! Looks awesome!
Collapsible pieces like this would be great for traveling too, it's super smart! Great job guys! !!
Thanks, you two!
Rejuvenate Scythe please
Using a small fan (make sure it isn't affected by acetone) to move the air around will help with the acetone smoothing, since acetone vapours are heavier than air. This is why you had the issue with the uneven smoothing. Great idea on using the rig.
Using a fan is a great idea!
Just hope it doesn’t spark.
Some fans are designed to be explosion proof. Those are the ideal option this situation. An impeller, would be the next option.
You Shall !
pass,
right this way dear sir.
Great build Britt
Hahaha, thanks!
sa-maker I think it was that or you shall not pass🤷♀️
Gandalf's staff has never looked more like a cleaning appliance, I love it!
The in between skits are awesome love the show
Glad you like them! We have so much fun keeping prop making light-hearted :)
It made me smile watching your slow motion at 8.38 and was amazed the lengths you have gone to achieve your passion. I am entertained with your work.
This prop is amazing! Google put this video in my recommended because about a week ago I published an Instructables tutorial for a collapsable walking stick that was made from the legs of an old camera tripod. Also I like that you showed how the mechanism of twist-release collapsable poles work, because I didn't open up mine when I built my walking stick, so I wondered how the twist-releases worked (until now!). Thanks for this video, especially the tips on the acetone smoothing. Keep up the amazing work!
i am using a collapsible pole for a ruby crescent rose right now ! seeing you get excited about how the locking piece worked is exactly how i reacted
Yes! Glad we're not the only ones impressed by that lock :D
Woah. This prop is amazing! Great job!!
You guys are great...must admit, sometimes y'all post things that I feel are either out of my league or just something that's not something I would normally build, but then I watch them, and I'm always inspired and take away much new knowledge anyway....Thank y'all for what you do....Keep the intros going....they're awesome....😎
Yay! We're glad we inspire you!
Great little tricks hidden inside are gems. Thanks a lot guys
You're so welcome! Thanks so much for watching :)
Acrylic Floor Care! I never would have thought of that. It's a good day when you learn something. Thank You!
You're welcome! Evil Ted recommended it to us.
Love the skit for the intro! Be great to see more
The work on this staff was amazing and I can see how wonderful a 3-D printer can be!
They are a really awesome and useful tool!
- Paige
That's awesome! Great idea!
Thank you for all you very useful info!! I discovered you last year when trying to make a Mononoke costume for my daughter. This year I am making Nausicaa for her. You are the only anything I can find on making the gun and knife. Not a popular character I guess. Thanks for making this costume a little less “blundering from scratch”!
Awesome! Glad we could help :)
That turned out amazing! And good call on the duster handle for the staff, I'm planning something now that needs a long, collapsible handle, and I was thinking of curtain rods, but that handle looks way lighter!
Thanks so much!
Very good I like the format
Super Cool, thank you Britt!!!
You're welcome! Glad you liked the video :)
Looks awesome
this is sooo cool
so cool!
This is amazing staff
Looks dank af
Haha love this intro. I was like dying for the classic phrase
The acetone's "sanding" application and his glossy effect is awesome! Great job as always :)
Thank you! It was a fun experiment, for sure.
Punished Props Academy do you know if this "technique" works also with new type of resin 3d printed? Or the acetone reacts only with the old plastic filament. Or it is necessary a specific plastic material? I'm not understand English very well and I'm not sure if you've talked about this in the video. 😊 Bye
Awesome prop!
Great work 😍😲😵👏👏👏
THEY ARE SO ADORABLE
I am in stitches :D I love the skits.
We're glad you're enjoying them as much as we do!
- Paige
Punished Props Academy they are great
that d2 sweeper bot behind her is amazing that must have taken ages to print
Hello again!😊 on plastics that don't hold paint well. I found that plastidip as a base works reasonably well. It can be painted with oil paint (brush on) and sealed with a polymer sealer. ..
That school sounds like way more fun than the one I went to!! Cool method letting the acetone melt it just a tiny bit to smooth it out.
His class was the most fun class :)
Cool techniques.
You guys are so talented
Aw, thank you!
If you don't want to get a messy bed for printing ABS, you can put a PEI sheet on it, and it's really magic, ABS stick super well to that with a heated bed at ~110degree celsius :)
Regarding your acetone smoothing problem. If you want to get everything smoothing and not the bottom only, you need to warm your acetone in the bucket, but that's something rather dangerous to do so I strongly discourage that. In the case of the glass jar, you can put it on an electric plate for cooking for example, low temperature.
Personally my technique to smooth things is "acetone rubbing", I use some paper towel with a bit of acetone on it and rub the surface to erase most of the printing lines and then finish with sandpaper. For the inaccessible areas like the gem, I use a very diluted acetone/ABS goo that I gently brush on the part to smooth, usually make things smooth enough for looking good, and by applying multiple layers, it doesn't penetrate as deep that the vapour, that way you avoid problem of parts becoming soft (and that can deform, which can be annoying for tight fits), or the problem of seeing the infill pattern if you walls are too thin. Also, that way I don't take risk of getting lots of acetone vapour. Still I do it with respirator in a ventilated area most of the time or if I will stay more than for a small touch up.
And last thing, for ABS I do recommend a brim indeed ;) Best to get a perfect bed-touching surface of the propos, is to get a first layer over extruding by 15 to 30 % (depends on filament) ;)
Thank you so much for the info!
@AlbusLux hum I think it would be rather dangerous to get a fan and this electric motor in the acetone vapour. From my understanding, the risk of fire hazard is one of the problem of acetone vapour smoothing, so adding a potential source of sparks in the vapour is then a dangerous idea :s even though it could indeed be working to redistribute the vapours. It makes me wonder about "humidifier" machine, I think they have an ultrasonic vibrator to break the liquid water in super ultra thin drops, so it can then start in suspension in the air. Could an ultra sonic vibrator be set under the glass jar containing acetone to make an acetone fog? (Because if you spray the acetone directly on the props it will be a bad result...)
Or maybe but warning it's dangerous !!! I'm wondering about airbrushing some acetone on the props, as it is very thin drops... ? In an super super super well ventilated area with a respirator for chemicals and closed mask on the eyes, plus full jumpsuit eventually... And if your airbrush doesn't have any plastic parts meltable with the acetone.
But I repeat, it pose a couple of dangers!!!!
The staff came out really cool! I like the collapsible idea a lot!
Thanks so much! =D
@@punishedprops Yeah, cool idea! I might have done it reverse way so the smaller end hit the ground, and the crown would merge smoothly to the staff part. :)
What an interesting alternative to sanding!
By using a small electrical fan you can add airflow inside the container so you can get the top parts of your prints
you can glue pla (and most likely abs as well) together with airfix glue. you dont need to use much and you dont get any squeeze out if you apply it sparingly.
You guys' giggles in the intro are adorable.
Prop making is serious business! :D
I only 3D print using PLA as it’s super simple to work with but it requires sanding and priming to get perfectly smooth finish. The method I settled on was first shown to me by Joe silvagi for doing my Mando armor … Rustoleum 2in 1 filler sandable primer followed by 320 wet sanding followed by dupicolor primer then 600 wet sand. Finish with dupicolor primer sealer and you’re ready for painting. The automotive grade spray can primer is key as the nozzles are 10x better than Rustoleum and provide a perfect finish without the need to use airbrush or LPHV spray guns. Also I always spray a black mist “guide coat “ of black primer on for each round which makes it so you see here you still need to sand the piece perfectly even.
8:39 LMAO I love how dramatic she is. I’m subscribing 😂😂
You had me at Gandalf...😳❤❤❤
Huzzah!
Have you tried putting acetone on a paper towel inside of an airbrush jar & airbrushing the crinkly bits out with the acetone vapor. Different tips could give you different effects & detail. & next time, leave a space for a crystal & pop it in the middle when it's still pliable. The branches will dry around it, holding it in place. Then, wiring a light through the bottom will be spectacular. A cheap camera strobe would be a nice touch. Diffused through the crystal would be a very effective flash. Then the hollow tube could be filled with batteries. You could hide a button switch in a replica of a knot of wood on the larger top section of tubing. There's also wood grain paper you could lacquer over the tube or print it yourself to make sure the color matches.
Awesome suggestions, thank you!
I am going to carve one as soon as I can. It will take some time, using wood and not plastic. I will try to build a light and a real crystal in the flower bud, wish me luck!
Is there a way to smooth out a print and have it dull/matt(?) instead of shiny?
I would love to see/learn how you would do the gem if you were to use the other method.
Has anyone noticed that some of the cuts make it look like Brittnany barely blinks? Specifically the moments when she's talking directly into the camera at the end.
Great build and a nice idea to make use of a collapsable pole. I'll have to use the idea on some projects to see how much easier it makes transport vs sectioning the handle into multiple pieces.
She's ALWAYS WATCHING....
We're pretty pleased with the collapsible aspect. Staves and other similar items can be really tricky to ship or travel with. Making them collapsible is a wonderful solution!
- Paige
I love your vids
Could have used a tiny bit of weathering to bring the shapes out and make the insides slightly darker, but still a very good job!
I agree, weathering would help.
you can reduce the gap between the raft and the piece, that give you more adhesion when printing
Oooh. Nice! This had some good info relevant to my current needs. Also? That intro... LOL nerds! XD
Our business is super serious! :D
A long time ago when i played Second Life, there was a vendor who made collapsing Staves and Wands; this was so similar to the design i couldn't help but remember how much it pissed me off because his stuff was always so much better than mine in the markets xD
Ha, that's a great story! :D
I use a walking stick in place of a cane. I wish I could get you guys to build a functional staff similar to Gandelf the Gray's... I'm only about an hour away from you too, just south of Seattle.
I am curious if the pole is still decent structure to lean on and use as support. I am guessing not because of the collapsible feature, but if it is I'd love to know!
Use a small fan inside the container to recirculate the acetone air to get a more even melting.
Speaking as a chemical engineer, you could use a fan inside the bucket for the smoothing process with acetone.
Awesome build!!! Hey what about the scythe from season 7 of Buffy.
Great job Brit! Would love it if Bill made the BSG Colonial Sidearm on video.
We have a write up on a build Bill did wayyyyy back in the day of that particular prop. Unfortunately we have no plans to re-make that one, but you can check out what we documented here: punishedprops.com/2011/11/01/bsg-pistol/
How long did it take you to print the top part of the staff?
Honesty. It suits you
How adorable is britt
Hello what did you do for the gem inside to make it pop?
I wish I could work with you guys everyday.
cheers on the dramatic music at the end 🤣
Music and slow-mo is the best!
oh this is an awesome build!! i do have a question....if you wanted to paint the pole a different color....would that be possible with the metal? Thanks in advance
You probably could if you sanded the surface down to clear off some of the existing paint and rough up the surface a bit, then laid down some primer. Worth testing if you can!
- Paige
Punished Props Academy I'll give it a try FOR SCIENCE!!!
My next idea are full body wings that can fold and possibly levitate when modes change. What materials would be best for aerodynamics and insulation?
Love it.
I have to admit that I'm putting more effort into prototyping with 3D prints and then casting them. As that gives me a broader choice of stronger materials to work with.
I might have tried printing this one with wood filament and then used real wood for the rest of the staff, cutting it into sections that could be screwed together for breaking it down, instead of being collapsible. But I guess that isn't as cool. ;)
I think that would be cool!
8:02 - Staves
Love it!
I love that you caught that :D
So I have a couple project ideas. One is an accurate cosplay of Roger Janitor from Little nightmares where the arms would extend, I want to incorporate sensors for touch but how could I make it so I can feel what the prosthetics feel?
To stop the infill from showing in the final print you could go into cura and adjust the infill overlap percentage.
Loved the build. Details were awesome. Loved the video. The humor was okay. But please... BLINK man ! im sorry, got this phobia for non blinking humans. Awesome channel.
Have you tried using Duplicolor scratch and filler primer? dries way way faster than rustoleum (almost instant), goes on a lot smoother and sands really nice too
That primer is super nice!
I printed the same top-piece for my Gandalf the White staff I'm working on lighting up, and while I like how it looks....I noticed the top of the model is pretty far off from the PJ movie version (rather than the "lines" gathering together they stay seperate).
really enjoyed the video and the project the only gripe is no retracted shots as that was a design feature
If you wanna add a heat source then take a bowl fill with water and microwave the water then set the jar in the hot water
Handy tip!
Hey I'm just curious but what would it cost to get a similar print but Halo center of topped latis area, so you could put a crystal in there instead, installed on the head of the staff and then have just the insides of the lattice pattern and have the bottom column be printed so that it is solid so that the only part that is see-through is on the backside of and then to print the center column in the same white color, and then design the bottom part of the staff to be able to accommodate a flashlight with a push button and a disguised hole, that is kind of like a pressure switch, that you cannot, unless you know the trick and where to push the button would be grate if it could be dune but if it's possible I would like it to be in the theme of Celtic symbols, like the water symbol, which is in the shape of three points with a circle around it and they're arcs that cross each other in a 1/2 elliptical almost, creating 3 pedals connected with the ring around the outside of the peace allowing just a small portion of the tips to stick outside of the circle that encompassed the Celtic art design. Just curious and really do like what you guys are doing. So keep up the good work and thank you so much
Full of ideas!
@@punishedprops yup lol
Now, you should make Andúril
I like how Bill's and Britt's builds are always so different to each other. I can't even clearly articulate what those differences are, but their work is nonetheless richer for it.
Britt: "It's like Bill is more technical with a build and I just poke at things until they look nice."
Well, I wouldn't put it like that, it's more like holistic vs detail.
очень круто!!
Finally I can be Gandalf where I go,wow man can’t wait to work a TSA.
“YOU SHALL NOT PASS!Please step to the side for a pat down”
Make the Mace of Molag Bal, please.
That one would be challenging.
Very Nice design with the option to shrink the staff for better portability..maybe i could leave the screw part just in case is need a staff for mopping...kidding...is perfect!! ... Btw..first time i detail those wonderful light eyes. 👁👁😊👍
Haha, I like the idea of leaving the attachment to swap out different staff/cleaning supply heads!
Punished Props Academy lol like cleaning with Magic? Or magicaly cleaned..or at least clean with style?
Very useful info. I didn't know you smooth with vapor with cold acetone.
Have y'all tried this with PLA and Ethyl Acetate?
We haven't tried PLA and Ethyl Acetate.
Punished Props Academy Okie doke. I have some and have heated vapor smoothed with results. Your video has inspired me to give it another go.
I wonder. maybe less acetone and a small circulation fan in the bucket ??
Not too stoked about having an electric fan motor near all that vaporized, flammable liquid. =)
good point. 5v fan?
If you're going to use pegs, the holes should be added to the model before printing. This way, you can ensure proper alignment. For best results, make 3 holes, not forming an equilateral triangle. That way, there's no possibility of improper rotation.
Thoughts on using a pole like this for a large sword that is 7-8ib?
Hm, I'd worry about the aluminum pole kinking under the weight, but it might work!
I wonder what sandblasting (or tumbling) with fine grit would do to something like this?
We don't have either of those pieces of equipment, so we've never tried it. I think the folks at Matterhackers did a tumbler video though.
Nice job on the staff guys. Why don't you check out the video on how to smooth out 3d prints on DIY Perks channel on CZcams, where he also uses acetone.
Which 3d printer you used ?
What the ratio of super glue to baby powder you put for filling seems in your 3D print?
That partially depends on what kind of super glue you're using. Different glues will have different ratios. We recommend doing some testing to see how much works best for what you have before applying it to your print.
- Paige
"Twiddly Bits"
Thats the name of my new folk band
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- Paige
Could you sand blast the inside a little bit to rough up the texture a bit?
We don't have a sand blaster, so we've never tried.
if you put a little fan inside your ABS smoothing chamber it smoothes much more evenly.
I could see that working, but any kind of spark from the fan motor might ignite the acetone vapor. I know it's a really small chance, but I don't think it's worth it.
actually, makers muse ran a spark generater in an acetone filled glass and it didnt ignite, it needs a proper open flame to do so, ive been running mine for ~16 months and even when i had a fan burn out do to mis-matched wiring it didnt ignite
Fantastic build video as always guys! This will be super helpful when I print/build my Wabbajack staff.
Awesome! Show us how it turns out on Twitter: twitter.com/chinbeard
- Paige
I’m not a modeler. BUT.... having tumbled brass and rocks to polish them... made me wonder if there is a way to do the same with acetone...???? If it can be done. It would be distributed evenly.
Our pals at Matterhackers did some tumbling on their 3D prints. Here's a video on it: czcams.com/video/nsMMEzDFfjY/video.html
OMG I LOVE THAT I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
Hey!! could you make the jaffa staff weapon from Stargate sg-1?? its awsome project
Thanks for letting us know you're interested in that build! We have our current schedule worked out, but there could be room for this kind of video in future plans.