Kia Sorento PHEV 2022 review | plug-in hybrid seven-seat SUV tested | Chasing Cars
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- We test the new Kia Sorento GT-Line PHEV and see what this hybrid SUV is like to drive.
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The Kia Sorento plug-in hybrid may be $81,990 driveaway in Australia, but that’s actually $8 cheaper than a Toyota Kluger Grande Hybrid. That is the PHEV Sorento’s main rival here. The big difference is that the plug-in Kia has just that: a plug. Kia says the Sorento PHEV can do 56km on electric power alone. We managed 60km before the 1.6-litre turbo petrol was forced to kick on.
But is the Sorento GT-Line PHEV really worth $17k more than the diesel version of the same car?
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Time codes:
0:00 - What is the Kia Sorento PHEV?
2:14 - Interior in black Nappa leather
5:16 - Back seats
7:09 - Third row
7:59 - Boot space
10:18 - Running costs and range
13:06 - What is the Sorento plug-in like to drive?
20:45 - Kia Sorento expert verdict - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Another well presented review Tom.
Thank you Tom - this review played a big part in convincing us to put an order for the vehicle.
How did you go with ordering it? My local dealer doesn’t even know what it is! What wait time were you quoted?
Good review, especially the bit where you qualify the benefits of PHEV (i.e. beneficial if owner drives a lot in city) in comparison to diesel version. The high PHEV option cost creates a long payback from fuel savings so it makes sense only for certain people.
For some people, running costs are not the most important consideration when purchasing PHEVs, some of us buy them because we want a car that produces half the emissions of a diesel or petrol, but still require a good touring range.
The payback period regardless will likely be yrs rather than months. Even charging it will cost money if you are charging from the grid. If you have a solar system capable enough for a fast charger then that will almost be no cost at all . For $82k D/A or $17K more than the diesel & the fact its also substantially heavier at 2T, that money could provide 4-5 yrs of fuel for the oiler. I've tested the diesel over a 300km Loop & got it down to 5.7l/100km . So I'd think long term , unless you really need a PHEV at $82k the diesel is by far the best choice.
Thanks mate, I just posted a question which your comment helps address.
You are right, you don’t buy PHEV for saving money at the moment, maybe in 5 years. You buy these because you are conscious of environment impact.
All absolutely right. But it’s a combination of the reduced running costs / interest in lowering one’s own CO2. Most people don’t really care about the latter so the standard petrol or diesel will suit. That said, most people also finance their car. The difference between the diesel and the hybrid works out to about $70 per week. It all adds up, but if you had a solar power setup and recharged your car nightly, you could avoid a significant proportion of that cost difference in refuelling for an urban commute with this sort of electric range.
@@robertduklus6555 you have a good point, but lots people may already have solar and battery pack at home. I don’t use grid power and on the contrary, I sell power back to the grid. So my cost of running an EV is pretty low.
@@robertduklus6555 good points! However, we also have populist governments that react to market forces and want to keep the voting public happy. That means that despite the massive intertia against EVs in Australia, if enough people buy them they will probably signal a shift in policy at a national and state level, which will have a much larger environmental impact. Will your one car change anything? No. Will hundreds of thousands tell them the mood in the country has changed? Yes.
I like how the AU version has a 2nd row bench. In CA/US, the second row on the PHEV only comes in captain's chairs.
Good review Tom.
80k is pushing it.
I have nothing against SUV's but would prefer a station wagon.
Can't imagine why we don't have more PHEVs in Australia. They make perfect sense.
Plenty on the horizon.
@@chasingcars Good to hear and well overdue. Toyota have steadfastly refused to bring the Prius Prime PHEV and the Rav4 Prime PHEV to Aus for the last 9 years, let's hope some others step up to the plate.
Very interesting review of this Sorento PHEV, Tom & team - thanks. Diesel Sorento GT-Line now looking more firm for my needs. Would you please share where that gorgeous rolling country-side location is?
Great review Tom, keep them coming.
I have two questions pls:
We live in Melbourne and drive predominantly around the city, 40km each day (home to work and return). And drive 4-6 hrs to visit family in the countryside each quarter on avg (pre covid-19 lockdown). We also have a garage to charge the PHEV if we get it.
1. About how long would you say it would take to recoup the extra cost of buying the PHEV over the diesel?
2. Did KIA install third row air bags? This is a big factor for me as I have two little children and generally drive around their friends who would go in the back. This omission in the diesel is reason why I wasn't interested in the Sorrento even though everything else ticked the boxes.
Thanks in advance 😊
It’s really a great SUV, great review as always Tom and the team. But I doubt how many people will buy a KIA of over $80k, no offence to KIA and Hyundai. They have improved so much in the last decade. Some products are definitely top notch. Look at Genesis, everyone loves it, but only a handful people actually buy it.
Excellent review, It'´s amazing this globalized world, I'm from Spain watching someone reviewing a car in Australia, truly convincing me that is the perfect car for my family and I. Thank you so much for breaking down the insides of the kia Sorento PHEV like no other. Great job!!!
I wonder if the service intervals are based on kms where the engine was running, or just total kms.
Tesla doesn't require any servicing for the EV only cars. Seems rough if you need servicing if the engine has beenb off most of the time.
Can you get it has a 5 seater?
This is totally my new car if I have to replace my Kodiaq!
Great video Tom. Think the pick of the bunch is the Sorento self charging hybrid. Arriving Q1 2022 ??
Series parallel hybrid Sorrento is now arriving before Christmas! www.chasingcars.com.au/news/future-cars/kia-sorento-hybrid-2022-australian-release-for-kluger-rivalling-self-charging-hybrid-before-christmas/
@@chasingcars That's great. The HEV being much cheaper is the biggest bang for the buck considering it still cost a fair bit to charge up the PHEV. The constant plugging in and out can get tedious for lazy folks.
It's 15-20k to replace the LI battery on the PHEV when it fails outside warranty of 8 years. This is guaranteed as LI need to be replacd.
ford australia is taking long time to bring in plug in hybrid or electric cars. this sorento is very good looking
You have to wonder why Kia didn't offer this power train, albeit fwd in the Carnival. Taxis and Ride share operators would jump on this!
6.6L/100 from the 4 cyl alone is pretty impressive in a car this size. Sounds like it would be perfect for certain buyers, even if the diesel is still a viable option for others. Tom, can the system do any useful recharging of the battery (say, beyond maintaining the 12-15% you mentioned), or is it pretty limited until you plug it in again?
A little late after a year. But the answer is yes. We drive a Sorento PHEV here in Germany for 1 and 1/2 year now/35.000km and are totally satisfied. Fantastic, luxurious car at a reasonable price (63.000€ for the premium "Platinum" edition here in Germany). 7 years guarantee.
No complaints at all. You are educated to drive smoothly, just to keep the ICE off. Driving full electric is just nice.
In "Sport"-mode the battery will be charged by the ICE. But that only makes sense, if your battery is empty and you want to drive fully electric near your destination. Costs gasoline of course.
"HEV"-mode in contrast maintains your battery at the current level (+/-). It should be called "Hold"-mode, to make that clear.
On longer trips we drive in EV mode until we reach the highway, switch to HEV then and switch again to EV, before we reach our destination. Works perfect.
it does not do 6.6l with drained battery. it's closer to 9.2 on motorway with 120km/h. city... about 8-8.5l
I’m about to upgrade from my Kia Sorrento diesel 2016 to another Sorrento, do you reckon it’s better to go for this plug in over the diesel version? My driving is mostly highway round trips from Sydney to Wollongong
diesel.
Hi
I have a question here pls. Though I know that there is no point buying it if I can’t charge it but If am unable to charge my PHEV for couple of days, can it run like an hybrid and possibly self charge and safe me few $ on fuel?
Thanks
Yes, that's how it works. The battery never fully drains; it uses some engine power to retain about a 15% state of charge along with regenerative braking. We found the Sorento PHEV used 6.6-7.5L/100km in our real-world testing with zero EV range.
@@chasingcars it's beyond me, how did you do that... on motorway i do usually 9.2l/100km (120km/h), city is never below 8-8.5l.
Here in Europe there are plans to allow only cars with no local emission into some cities/city centres, so a phev does/will make a lot of sense. Is that something like that discussed in Australia?
No, we don’t give a shit about environment, which is a big shame.
HAHAHAHA. This is great. Aussie are currently doing the OPPOSITE of what is needed for the environment. Actually makes sense with such a high percent of GDP from 'resource extraction'. Guess who has the lobbying power.
No, I would think that EVs of any kind will be charged a TAX to enter cities because they are not paying for the road maintenance through fuel taxes.
Smokie old diesels/petrols that do 6-20MPG will get to enter for free, or even paid an entry fee for the wonderful service they are providing for the economy. /s
Not yet, but you could imagine it in Sydney and Melbourne at some point. The state of NSW is introducing a significant amount of EV purchase incentives but these don’t apply to PHEVs.
Was keen on this car, but not $82k keen.
Where is this 7 seater you speak of?
Is eighty grand a lot of money or am I just completely out of touch?
It's a lot of $$$$ for what could be a lengthy payback period
can't believe how expensive cars are getting 80k now for Kia, Mazda, Toyota and etc!
80k is a lot, especially when the payback, according to another popular reviewer's calculations is at least 24 years... you can get into the diesel AWD GT-Line for around 65k drive away... I know which one I'm going with for now at least!
Does it cost twice the price to save 20% at the pump?
It costs 20% more to buy.
Can't believe they only have 65kW a electric motor. My Outlander PHEV has a 60kW at the front AND a 70kW at the rear, all for $ 47k new. Same size battery too. I fear around the suburbs in EV mode only. That Sorrento will have the petrol kicking in at every intersection. Get the new 7 seater outlander PHEV in June. 85km range and 160kW Electric.
But it didn’t have the petrol kicking in at every intersection, actually - because it has a lot of torque (304Nm)
Bit expensive for a Kia which is aimed at families. I'm not sure that the phev makes financial sense given the cost over the diesel.
Batteries never make sense from a purely economic point of view.
Was considering this but the servicing is ridiculous. Why when the first 60 kms a day you aren't using the petrol motor does it have 10,000 km service intervals. With an average service cost of $700 for the first 7 services. Should be at least 15,000 km intervals.
In Germany/Europe you have a 15.000km (or 1 year) interval for the service of a Sorento PHEV. Maybe because of better streets/fuel/mild weather conditions?
We payed 230€ for the first service (=oil change) and 450€ for the second (=30.000km).
Frequent oil changes are recommended, BECAUSE the ICE does not run very often.
Good SUV (I've got a diesel myself), but I wouldn't pay 15k more just for EV- not worth it.
80 k wtf. Bring back the days of Holden and Fords.
Outlander 7 seater PHEV should be about 60k early next year.
@@nephilimdj this Kia is way overpriced. No doubt about it.
It's pretty nice though. My mate bought a Ford Territory for $50k which was good but nowhere near as nice as this on the interior.
I get about 35 miles. Needs to be 50 guaranteed miles.
What’s happened to cheap Korean cars?
They got sophisticated and competitive with Japanese cars?
over $80K for a kia.......
No Kia we wanted a normal HYBRID
Or this car to be cheaper. Would love to stop paying for petrol.
this car is gonna flop that bullshit 82k price is ridiculous
Is that mild hybrids are selling in the Sorrento range are they a good option vs the diesel and the phev? Are they good drives compared to the diesel especially?
bahaahhahahahahahjhahha price is so stupid maybe if full EV but not a shit phev
A half cooked EV....
Oh the irony in a couple having five kids drawing from the planet now being concerned about their environmental impact.
Bear with me a moment while I look up the word hypocrisy...
Adoption, fostering, blended family.
Assumptions are always ignorant.
@@jeeves6490 Oh yes, those scenarios are so commonplace that there is an entire market sector of seven seaters just for the adopters and oh so common Brady Bunchers. How ignorant of me. Yes now that I think about it I'm sure this demographic far outweighs the mindless rabbit breeders. How silly of me to make assumptions on the obvious.
@@CathodeRayNipplez For what it's worth, to some extent I agree, much like RAMS without even a towbar, carrying a single driver each and everyday down the motorway to work.
Still, as father to four, 2 of those don't share my DNA, a workmate fosters children of all ages for years at a time, while others care for nieces, nephews and in other cases grandchildren through various family dramas or tragedies, it happens.
None of those I know have an 80k vehicle though, I'll grant you.
Carpooling? Hahaha mate you're so angry and self righteous.
@@jhref Hahahaha.. Is that the best you got? You mean school run. Adults don't fit in the back of these prams genius.
Next to nobody carpools. Nice try tho 🤣
$82k ? ha ha ha ha not going to happen. On top of that is a km charge by the idiot governments. Buy the Toyota. Posh car ? Kia ?
Well, that’s only Victoria.
@@chasingcars Agreed. But coming to a state near you soon. NSW says by 2027 I believe, but they will bring it forward, especially with the new "economy first" Premier.