If you time travelled, could you save the Grand Banks Cod?

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  • What could you have done in the past to prevent the collapse of the cod?
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Komentáře • 150

  • @kuronosan
    @kuronosan Před 3 lety +168

    Investing heavily in Walmart in the past makes them take risks that they wouldn't have without the investment and they go bankrupt, maybe.

    • @NickHorvath
      @NickHorvath Před 3 lety +12

      buying stock of a publicly traded company doesn't impact their behavior very much, and at less than 10 cents a share throughout the 70s you wouldn't need THAT many shares to get very rich today.

    • @sabriath
      @sabriath Před 3 lety +7

      @@NickHorvath Just FYI, walmart's IPO was 16.50, not 10 cents. Buying $100 worth of stock on Oct 1 of 1970, you would have 6 shares (and $1 left over)....with stock splits, you would have 3072 shares at the current price of 147.04, which is $451,706.88, plus dividends. Which is an 18.35% compounded yearly return over 50 years.
      You are correct, buying stock doesn't affect the company whatsoever unless you are major shareholder, since most things are done by vote and 51% are usually retained by executives. Shares sold to market are just investors trading it around a table while it dilutes from dividends, option coverage, and depreciation.

    • @NickHorvath
      @NickHorvath Před 3 lety

      @@sabriath Price history for walmart shows it below 10 cents on both yahoo finance and refinitiv data feeds. This is probably because it's corrected for splits that have occurred. So the effective price for the purpose of figuring out total gain over 50 years is sub 10 cents.

    • @sabriath
      @sabriath Před 3 lety

      @@NickHorvath .... if you only had $100 to your name, then you can only invest $100 at that time. So if we say "if you had 1,000 shares of WMT at IPO" it isn't $100....it's $16500....which is a LOT of money back then. The median income in 1970 was not quite at $10,000, so you're looking at nearly 2 years worth of income going straight into buying WMT, which is not feasible.
      This is why it's important to look at context of pricing properly....at 16.50 per share, you could reasonably afford 6 shares as a longterm "bet" on the stock in 1970. If you were lucky, you might be able to put $500 towards it, but not all families could risk that.
      Yahoo and other sites are showing 6 cents, but they only go back to 1972, the proper adjusted price would be nearly 2 cents if you included dividends, or 3.22 cents if you only include splits. This is only used as a multiplicative starting point....meaning, since the stock is at 147, and 147 divided by 0.0322 is 4565.217....then any amount of money you started with in 1970 is multiplied by 4565.217 to get you today's value.
      It's all about perspective.

    • @NickHorvath
      @NickHorvath Před 3 lety

      @@sabriath Yes, I agree that $16500 is a lot of money in 1970 (about $110k today), but if you did buy those thousand shares you would wind up with over $75 million today (according to your math). He did say step 1 was to steal a bunch of money to buy the stock with. We're not talking about an investment really, we're talking about a cash multiplier based on future knowledge and time travel. I'm sure given time to research you could find a better investment but for the video walmart served his purpose of being notable and successful.
      With regards to the point of this thread, you would need just over 1000 shares to make $100 million which would have no impact on the business of walmart.
      PS there's an article on nasdaq.com from last october when wmt was at 120 that says you would only need 5000 to make 74 million, so I'm not sure whose math is wrong. Either way, a significant investment in 1970 would net lots of money today.

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  • @DarthFennec
    @DarthFennec Před 3 lety +34

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    > kill hitler?
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  • @josiah42
    @josiah42 Před 3 lety +9

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      @kornsuwin Před 3 lety

      I think all of us came from *that* video

  • @Justan669
    @Justan669 Před 3 lety +16

    Somehow I feel like this video is subtly directly towards the Lobster kerfuffle
    occurring right now in Nova Scotia- very nice video btw

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    @fhz3062 Před 3 lety +6

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  • @itsrudetostare673
    @itsrudetostare673 Před 3 lety +22

    Ahaha almost forgot about that little detail at the start

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  • @ImYourDeity
    @ImYourDeity Před 3 lety +4

    As a Newfoundlander, i loved this video. Balanced, educated, wise. Excellent as always, ThisPlace. I've killed uncountable babies based on your advice :)

    • @ThisPlaceChannel
      @ThisPlaceChannel  Před 3 lety +3

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      @@ThisPlaceChannel ..And he would win

  • @benfaulder7532
    @benfaulder7532 Před 3 lety +1

    @5:40, "beep-boop" killed me! :D

  • @TheMancow226
    @TheMancow226 Před 3 lety +1

    This channel is criminally undersubscribed.

  • @michaelhumphreys9671
    @michaelhumphreys9671 Před 3 lety +1

    ??? How come it took me SO LONG to find THIS PLACE! Wow. This is GOOD. Informative, engaging, and humorous.

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    @irakyl Před 3 lety +2

    I really hoped you don't get discouraged by the low view counts, your videos are absolutely phenomenal.

  • @Pedrosa2541
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    This is the most subestimated CZcams Channel, seriously, it's just pure gold.

  • @Adam-wo9ol
    @Adam-wo9ol Před 3 lety +1

    He has returned! Along with all the Grand Banks Cod. What a coincidence!

  • @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear
    @Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear Před 3 lety +7

    Haha, i wonder what the detailed food web looks like.

  • @ThePheonixon
    @ThePheonixon Před 3 lety +2

    Your obsession with the grand banks cod led me to write an essay on Locke's property rights and cod stocks in Canada and Norway

  • @umberscore2051
    @umberscore2051 Před 3 lety +4

    He brought the intro back!

  • @bugglest0n
    @bugglest0n Před 3 lety +1

    Your intro has always been my favorite!

  • @draxiss1577
    @draxiss1577 Před 3 lety +1

    I must admit, I didn't see that twist coming but I'm grateful it happened because I was getting worried you'd advocate for bigger corporations or something.

  • @Baurles
    @Baurles Před 3 lety +2

    Great to see one of the best creators on youtube back! I hope a lot more of your former audience (such as myself) will rediscover you, as youtube did not notify me of this video.

  • @DarthFennec
    @DarthFennec Před 3 lety +8

    "Then they added more months to the year to really try to twist that knife."
    Hold up, can you expand on this? What months are R, W, and P? When and how did the year have 15 months? Why can't I find anything about this on Google? Or is this some kind of joke that's going over my head?

    • @Ariansiss
      @Ariansiss Před 3 lety +1

      Also searching for this online, have not found anything. I even read "Who Killed the Grand Banks" by Rose

    • @spyfox260
      @spyfox260 Před 2 lety +2

      “Real World Problems”

  • @mangetsu9725
    @mangetsu9725 Před 3 lety +1

    Your videos always remind me that education and fun problems like these... can and *are* fun
    Like everyday after school I hate learning, I hate myself, and I hate assignments. But seeing and answering random hypothetical questions for fun makes me remember that it's the educational system I hate, not education itself.

  • @lucasfc4587
    @lucasfc4587 Před 3 lety +3

    Seemingly unrelated problem that turns out to be universal in today’s politicos, ecology, etc etc. Your work is great! This is how real knowledge is made

  • @michaelkurak1012
    @michaelkurak1012 Před 3 lety +1

    A while back, I noticed that the original Grand Banks video that you made had been "relocated" on CZcams. I am wondering about the cause of that displacement. That video is priceless.

    • @coppersalts
      @coppersalts Před rokem

      He said on his twitter that it got flagged by CZcams.

  • @GlaceonShiny
    @GlaceonShiny Před 3 lety +2

    A sequel to one of the best videos on the internet. A pretty great way to start my morning!!

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    Can't believe the views are so low, this content is A+++

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    These videos are always worth the wait

  • @timothynewton5231
    @timothynewton5231 Před 3 lety +2

    Fantastic video! I remember stumbling across your videos when I was studying policy making in college. It was great seeing discussion of policy boiled down into such a clear and funny manner.

  • @Calyrekt
    @Calyrekt Před 3 lety +2

    Missed that old intro, love the video ❤️

  • @DugGLe55FuR
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    Just watched your old cod video uploaded to another channel, it was really good.

  • @naotamf1588
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    why can't we "just leave things alone for a couple of decades"? is what i am asking myself everytime i look at nature...

  • @jsdp
    @jsdp Před 3 lety +1

    I apologise for commenting before I have seen the video, but there has been the same number of videos released from this channel in the last four months as there have in the past three years, and they're all held to a very high quality!
    If you don't mind me asking, what brought about this change in pace? A university degree coming to terms which enabled more free time, just pure motivation being found again, or something regarding coronavirus and very few time-based commitments?
    Cheers
    Jet

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    @markhonea2461 Před 3 lety

    Love that background music!

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    @theever-presenteye2044 Před měsícem

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    @tuptap2457 Před 3 lety

    I am glad, that you returned!

  • @mikes9016
    @mikes9016 Před 3 lety

    You are awesome! Thanks for the video

  • @dipdip7250
    @dipdip7250 Před 3 lety +1

    This was awesome

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    @sean8190 Před 2 lety

    God, i love these videos oh so much

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    @katemorris3711 Před 3 lety

    Oh my god you’re back

  • @redoktopus3047
    @redoktopus3047 Před 3 lety

    hell yeah! full intro!

  • @marsherr
    @marsherr Před 3 lety

    I could listen to this voice all day long

  • @noahprentice751
    @noahprentice751 Před 3 lety +1

    love the new intro!

    • @drmilkweed
      @drmilkweed Před 3 lety

      it's quite an old intro actually

  • @meaburror7653
    @meaburror7653 Před 3 lety

    Awesome!

  • @66115983
    @66115983 Před 3 lety

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  • @NeoRipshaft
    @NeoRipshaft Před 3 lety

    New "This Place" video showing the catastrophic effects of unjustified heirarchies on the day after the birthday of legendary chad Peter Kropotkin, who had something to say about unjustified heirarchies?! Coincidence?!
    Yes.

  • @brit4170
    @brit4170 Před 3 lety

    Yay!! A new one!

  • @WaseemYusuf
    @WaseemYusuf Před 3 lety

    This channel is fucking random.... and I love it!

  • @geegee952
    @geegee952 Před 3 lety +1

    Here's how everything could work and be sustainable:
    Governments and alike:
    "Yeeaah... Im just gonna hide these number and keeping doing my shit like a focking donkey"

  • @nykidxxx
    @nykidxxx Před 3 lety +2

    Does commenting improve traction? If so, please comment more everyone!

  • @dieselnation555
    @dieselnation555 Před 2 lety

    There's more cod out there than you can shake a stick at

  • @harryli5979
    @harryli5979 Před 3 lety +1

    damn the uncanny valley vid was 4 months ago? felt like a few weeks ago

  • @NoBorschtForYou
    @NoBorschtForYou Před 3 lety

    I've been subscribed (with bell icon set to "all") forever, but I never seem to get notifications anymore. Emails have definitely stopped for all but 2 channels I follow. Sad to see what CZcams is doing to creators

  • @JonnyD000
    @JonnyD000 Před 3 lety +4

    Which of your references is related to the decentralized decision making you talked about? I'd like to read up more on that.

    • @ouroboros7031
      @ouroboros7031 Před 3 lety

      "Use of knowledge in society" by Hayek may not be exactly that, but it's a very close topic. And it's an amazing read overall.

  • @limepop340
    @limepop340 Před 3 lety

    Fucking savage analogy, my guy.

  • @genessab
    @genessab Před 3 lety

    Aaa I missed your vids

  • @j.samuelwaters81
    @j.samuelwaters81 Před 3 lety

    Got'em with classic brick joke

  • @itamarsalhov
    @itamarsalhov Před 3 lety

    Pleaaaaaaaaaassssssseeeeeeeeeeeee rerelease the original cod video. I loved it so much )))))::::::

  • @VoonNBuddies
    @VoonNBuddies Před 3 lety +1

    Only Anarcho-Robotism can save the cod

  • @Pedrosa2541
    @Pedrosa2541 Před 3 lety

    6:50 - Here a full course how to make a successful management institution in one minute.

  • @dipdip7250
    @dipdip7250 Před 3 lety

    Good title btw

  • @Ricardoromero4444
    @Ricardoromero4444 Před 3 lety

    I dare not like this video, for it has been liked four hundred and twenty times.

  • @Tangly
    @Tangly Před 3 lety +1

    Well I, for one, welcome our Department of Human Eradication overlords.

  • @nigglewiggle4214
    @nigglewiggle4214 Před 3 lety

    hook 'em with endorphin girl then stick 'em with this shit

  • @Glass-vf8il
    @Glass-vf8il Před 3 lety

    It’s gone full circle

  • @yesman6559
    @yesman6559 Před 3 lety

    Yes

  • @LotsOfS
    @LotsOfS Před 3 lety

    10:29 the Geth have reached consensus

  • @yeedochun
    @yeedochun Před 3 lety

    WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN

  • @corky09734
    @corky09734 Před 3 lety

    I was expecting an Express VPN plug at the end there, lol

  • @andreujuanc
    @andreujuanc Před 3 lety +2

    We should apply this to how we handle pandemics

  • @tiltedsun2786
    @tiltedsun2786 Před 3 lety +1

    Commenting for the Algorithm. All hail the mighty algorithm

  • @ArtArtisian
    @ArtArtisian Před 3 lety

    Yay place

  • @michaelhumphreys9671
    @michaelhumphreys9671 Před 3 lety

    Of course the problem, unfortunately now more than then (I presume), is that all the stakeholders have to TRUST what the others, particularly their scientists and leaders, are saying and recommending. No. Small. Feat.

  • @bananamanasaur
    @bananamanasaur Před 3 lety +1

    Grand Banks? More like Bland Banks am I right?

  • @bachpham6862
    @bachpham6862 Před 3 lety

    Widely disruption event happening in health and/or environment *exists*
    Politicians first concern: Oh no, the economy.

  • @sebastianem2405
    @sebastianem2405 Před 3 lety +1

    Perhaps

  • @ZardoDhieldor
    @ZardoDhieldor Před 3 lety

    Easy. Just have a scientific committee estimate the quota and auction the fishing certificates. I am good at this. I should be made king for everything.

  • @SmellySquid
    @SmellySquid Před 3 lety +1

    The department of human eradication

  • @p07a
    @p07a Před 3 lety

    Ok i don’t know why I missed this video but your tweet on woman eggs brought me here

  • @I_am_Alan
    @I_am_Alan Před 3 lety

    Big robo will rule the world.

  • @sci_pain3409
    @sci_pain3409 Před 3 lety

    i only just discovered this channel and it has a worrying lack of subscribers

  • @simonschabel482
    @simonschabel482 Před 3 lety

    noice

  • @DeconvertedMan
    @DeconvertedMan Před 3 lety

    tragedy of the commons.

  • @pizzi_
    @pizzi_ Před 2 lety +1

    cod...
    c...od
    call of duty?

  • @fomalhaut_the_great
    @fomalhaut_the_great Před 3 lety

    Lousy Pemtober weather...

  • @thecount1001
    @thecount1001 Před rokem +1

    renamed the 'department of human eradication. and environment'. hahahahaha!

  • @baconspaceman4094
    @baconspaceman4094 Před 3 lety

    you could just nationalize the fishing industry so you don’t overfish

  • @impendio
    @impendio Před 3 lety

    I would leave the fish alone, invest in all tech giants and then eradicate humans as well, the fish would thank me later.

  • @UpsideDownTeaCup
    @UpsideDownTeaCup Před 3 lety

    Why not just make more cod roboti- *cough* I mean efficiently.