Why is Halo 5's Campaign So BAD!? (Part 1) Marketing, Expanded Lore, & Intro Cinematics
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- čas přidán 26. 05. 2016
- Halo 5 has one of the worst campaigns I have ever played through in it's entirety. And it is the worst in the Halo franchise. But what exactly went wrong with it? And why is the story disappointing to so many fans?
In this video, the Act Man dives into the campaign, and talks about the reasons why the Marketing, Expanded Lore, and Opening Scene set up Halo 5's campaign to fail.
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The Act Man I Love your video's man, they are very well explained and very understandable, you should be a story writer for 343, it would be a much better story
watch Redlettermedia much ;)
The Act Man WAIT WAIT WAIT I got something, the elites are halo 5 buyers and the prophets are 343i. 🙂
The Act Man Go fuck yourself San Diego.
Tim Peters i wanted arbiter to kill mdama not some random spartan for fuck's sake!
Actman: "Only people who have read all the books and comics like this game!"
HiddenExperia: "No, we don't like it either"
I guess they were trying to be esoteric like dark souls, look game developers just because uber dark souls fan like dark souls cryptic storyline doesnt mean every game needs a cryptic story line as a matter of fact I am tired of cryptic story lines ion video games.
@@asherif3893 Fan of Dark Souls here: This.
Idk i read just a few books and watched a few movies and I dont think its that bad. Far from the beat halo and i def wanted to be blue team more but playing for my first time this year i dont hate it completly
@@rob6912 It lacked for me. I didn't hate it but I beat it in a day and was just like. "Something is missing"
@@jackbishop8610 same once I got the controls down with my recon layout it was pretty easy. I kinda wish they kept aimming tbh fuck the advanced movment but i dig the aim feature
Halo 5 memorable dialogues:
"Affirmative"
"I dont like it"
"Use the artemis tracking system"
"Like hell she is"
"what the hell are you doing here"
"well crap"
lol wait who said the third line I genuinly want to know
@@Sanya6496 on my comment it was Buck, on Knightmare 126's comment is was Tanaka
"infinity comms:"
“im at meridian station, is anybody alive there than me”
If I'm being honest having so many Spartans took away from being the spartan. This game just didnt make me feel like a badass spartan. Reach handled it much better.
I always thought it was kinda stupid how many spartans exist now. reach was the last stand of the spartans. masterchief was like the last hope of humanity. that’s it’s pretty intense. for me anything after 3 is just filler. 4 could have existed but they handled it poorly imo
All this time we were eluded to the last hope for humanity, it made us feel like the last one and there was no hint in games or other spartans other than reach. Now theyre all just copy and pasted and the feeling of being a Spartan or a last hope is gone
Oof, if Reach handled Spartans better than this game's depiction must have been really fucking aweful.
@@pezdispencer113 it was a big oof, they were corny and annoying. Not much screen time meant we didnt care, they weren't memorable enough plus they were just power Rangers
@@mizanchoudhury9536 the Spartan IIs in Halo 5 were handled the same way the Knights of Ren were handled in Star Wars Rise of Skywalker.
The story sounds like a Bad fan fic made by someone who probably didn’t understand their characters properly
"343 hired a totally inept group of writers "
Think that's crazy?
They went on record to say they had no fucking idea who was the protagonist of halo 5
Halo 5 reminds me of Dragon Ball Super
@@lilchad961 or Dragon Ball Evolution…👀🤦♂️
@@mr.clickbaiter8607 yeah that's a better example the dbs it got pretty good later on at t.o.p evolution however is trash 🗑
Halo 5: the biggest clickbait in videogame history
I'm gonna like this comment later cause it's on 117
It just feels right
Todd Howard disagrees
@@arterialspace3239 You can like it now
Hey at least the multiplayer's fun.
@@ultimateknight4667 Well halo 5 is focused in the multiplayer
Halo 5 was the most disappointing thing since my son
daiselol funny thats what my dad said
d-dad?
Need a pizza roll?
You may not have noticed it, but your brain did.
That is very mean
The only thing about the marketing that wasn’t a lie was Chief’s visor being broken.......
-and even then, it was a falling building that caused it in the trailer if I remember correctly.
I listend to hours of a prequel podcast all excited about the storyline and it was completely irrelevant
And then it didn't distort vision during gameplay like it did in reach. That should be a crime.
I love how Chief’s visor survived multiple falls from orbit, but it can’t stand a slow, poorly delivered kick from some dipshit
@@superfarful hunt the truth was hype. Then it fell flat on its face when the game released.
Halo 5 Pros: Nathan Fillion
Halo 5 Cons: Literally everything else
This
Accurate asf
Still Acurate
They made the trailer seem like Master Chief and Spartan Locke were enemies..
So. It was only his job to bring him back even if he didn't want to
Are they not? Wtf
@@AwesomeViibes no, Locke was ordered to find and bring him back. While Chief was trying to stop Cortana. Realizing what he was doing he tried to help Chief
They only spoke to eachother for like 5 minutes as well lmao
They kinda were but were never enemies just professionally
I don’t care what anyone says, as far as I’m concerned Master Chief is still floating in cryo sleep in space after Halo 3.
Everything after this is fan fiction
Exactly. Just like how Star Wars concluded with The Return of the Jedi as far as I'm concerned.
Halo 4 had a great story. It set up the new covenant in a way that allowed for exploration in the subsequent installments. Too bad Brian fucked up.
but halo 4's a good game, but oh wait its not made by bungie that means it's bad right? pff
Halo 4 was ok tho...not good...just ok.
Agreed.
Me: Ehh halo 5 could be worse.
My friend: did I mention they took out split screen?
Me: WTF 343!?!?
Yeah
(As a person who played split screen in other halo games) That’s it, they’re going down.
When I got the game I was seriously confused why I couldn’t play split screen till I seen this video I was livid
They crossed a trucking line
Halo Infinite: “I can top that”
If halo 5 was anything like the trailer then the game would have been so good
Yes
Yes
The story not sure about the gameplay
@@shadowbearandignididtnt3299 no they should kept the halo 3 formula
Listen to your consumers
We know best on what we want
No, it wouldn't.
Still lacking local co-op, REQ packs, horrible armors, a poorly made campaign and an incomplete launch.
Only 343 could fuck up halo for me.
Just look at how destinys doing
ill give you a hint
its shit
Destiny has nothing to do with Halo so your point is pathetic LOL
CZcamsr Analyst
People complain about 343 "ruining" halo, yet if Bungie, the makers of Destiny, stayed as Halo developers, they'd fuck up worse with Halo.
Typhova How do you know what exactly? Can you see things that others can't? Can you see different Universe as well ? If Bungie stayed they would be still with Microsoft and plenty of Bungie that quite different would of stayed. Not to mention they wouldn't have to start from scratch since they know Halo since the company was created.
CZcamsr Analyst You're contradicting yourself right now, how do you know they'd be doing well right now? Can you see different universes as well? I'm basing my thoughts from what is currently happening. If you gave your kid a new car after he had an old one already and he crashes it, he wouldn't have crashed the old one, right? You can't see different universes!
Its already been said before but its true.
"The whole budget was spent on dumb looking helmets"
The whole budget was spent on fish tank helmet
@Jimmy it's mainly the ones in multiplayer almost all of them look dumb af
@@Ibrfatboi Is fotus there?
@@Ibrfatboi bruh. Achilles
No split screen
No duel wielding
You play as Locke 90% of it
Cortana being evil felt cheap
Cliff hanger ending
Repetitive Warden Boss
Short campaign
You also forget:
A good story
Didn't listen toany feedback from fans
Was too focused on lore
Microtranscations
Treated fan favourite characters like garbage and to cock tease people
Ruined halo 4's great ending cutscene (the only good thing about halo 4 besides Lasky)
Was basically a bad COD campaign (like Infinite Warfare or Black ops 3 bad)
Had nothing to do with the guardians dispite them being on the title
False marketing
And above all else
It has the fucking balls to slap Halo on it's cover
@@arbetor12 don't forget about the awful character customisation and weapon power ups, I played it online for a good month and never unlocked any new armour where in Halo 3 I would've looked unique by then, skins were either extremely rare or cost an extra buck!
@@NewOrderOfAlexandria to be fair theres so much wrong with this game that it's impossible to remember them all
@@NewOrderOfAlexandria did I also forget to mention microtranscations
Didn't dual Wielding get removed since ODST, Reach and Halo 4 anyway?
I've played the campaign a few times and all i know is that there's 8 Spartans, a random war with no name, a 1 armed Halsey, and that you stop Cortana and some robots.
*you try to stop cortana and some robots, then Laskey gives the worlds worst speech and the game ends
The opening cutscene is straight from a Marvel movie. I miss the storytelling of Halo 2's cutscenes.
I miss the epic story telling from halo 2, odst and reach
Marvel movies have better openings. Well, except for almost all of the Thor movies. Ragnarok was awesome though.
@TheDestroyer2alltrollsYes, agreed. It is a garbage movie but compared to other Marvel movies it's pretty good. Halo 5 similarly is a garbage game but is even worse compared to other games. I think only "Sea of Thieves" can compare to Halo 5's shittiness.
The second I saw that opening scene, I was convinced it was going to be garbage.
@@HeartTribe Yeah... Even the worst of the COD cutscenes at least make sense and have some context. This one failed at even the most basic of things.
There was more master chief in reach than there is in halo 5
O o f
Did u get the acheivement for looking at him
@@damariusmarkes1865 Collection Eligibility achievement gang!
@@sircharles6587 There's no master chief in halo wars what are you talking about
In a literal sense, you are wrong af.
Chief: I dont like it
Me: yo I feel ya. This game sucks.
nice one
I’m gonna be honest and say that Halo 5 was the first Halo I played and thought it was great. Then I played the other games and I was like, wtf have I been doing my whole life
Ya feel that?
That's called filthy fifths
+N1GHTM4RE_HUNTER You must be a Gen Z.
Should’ve played them much earlier
Me too. Played the campaign of halo five and was enjoying the game by Spartan charging buck over and over.
What was your favorite part as a first time player
The live action trailers for this game have a better story than the game itself.
jumbo deuce PREACH IT BROTHER, PREACH IT
True, true.
True Halo 5 was nothing to what it's marketing advertised.
I'm starting to think if they even had thought about it. They would tell their detractors that oh you should have guess that you're supposed to experience the story of Halo 5 with the trailers. And the excuse to avoid having the same we hiked the s*** out of absolutely nothing like beaks from the DuckTales reboot with his Tada idea. Which was basically nothing tada. But at least beaks had a plan of stealing someone else's invention and playing it off as the investment. These guys had nothing and came forward with nothing and still expected praise for nothing. It's what happens when you get people who are used to participation trophies. Don't be surprised at the look of their face when they're wondering why you're not praising them for crappy work
That's not hard.
I wish cortana stayed dead
Me too, and she's my 4th favorite Halo character behind Master Chief, Thel 'Vdam and Sgt. Johnson.
"Stop it, it's already dead"
I feel like they just didn't know where else to go with the story tbh
Swagshoes68 Either A) she stayed dead B) She never died C) She came back but in fractures and not a full piece, so Chief had to search around the galaxy to find her fractures.
That wouldn't have made sense. There were forerunner allies to the flood (Corrupted AI) but it doesn't seem like the human AI's are advanced enough or useful enough for what the flood would want.
What does Cortana 'control'? The fire and flight controls to The Pillar of Autumn, basically a flying fortress, other AI handle cities and such, but all of this PALES in comparison to what one like 343 Guilty Spark was given:
The Controls to a superweapon, The ability to control and manuever Sentinals, which are far stronger then 'humans' The ability to manufacture en mass such things as sentinals and enforcers.
Sorry this was a nerdy comment. lol
What I liked about Halo: Combat Evolved was the mystery of the Forerunners. Not knowing is what moves us. 🌿
Until Halo Legends came out and explain who they were
I couldn't agree any more. CE was aesthetic, simple, mysterious, creepy, moody. I love it so much. It's so different from the other games.
@@brandonselitetv1436 that's why I don't read the lore, because I don't care about that shit
@@guyname8760 the fall of reach, the flood, and first strike are the only things I consider lore besides the original trilogy. Everything else is bullshit
Halo 5 shouldn’t even be considered a halo game.
It is?
It hurts tosay but it needed to be said
It was call of duty in space/ in the future which is shit cos we've already had COD: in space/ in the future
It's a Power Rangers expensive copy.
That’s just stupid lol the slayer, swat, and gameplay in general in arena is the best in any halo.
Red vs Blue has better story and Choreography. XD
Jason T. It does. And it is actually pretty good.
Well that's not saying much considering red versus blue is really really good
RvB is da bomb
RvB is perfection (besides season 14, lets forget about that)
@@bigheadass2786 and probably season 15XD
A list of good things about Halo 5:
1. Nathan Fillion
That is all.
The music wasn't too bad.
Yep
@@jakehall7763 ya
The Multiplayer is good, Warzone is fun as heck
buck, multiplayer and war zone
The only piece of “essential material” that I actually got and recommend is “New Blood”, even if you don’t like Halo 5. In fact, it has very little to do with the Halo 5 story other than how Buck became a Spartan, that’s it. It details what happened to the team from Halo 3 ODST, including how the Rookie died.
+Tristan Hunter I read that book and yeah I agree. I like that book, but it’s really flawed with bad continuity (the events in the book are out of order which spoils some major plot points) and the Rookie’s death (I’m not saying him being killed off was bad, but the way he was killed off was unbelievable considering he was able to survive against and kill enemies much bigger and tougher than him like Brutes but ends up being murdered by another human being who was a nobody).
@Legion You mean a former member of Alpha-Nine? By the way, Captain Ingridson was never an ODST nor in the UNSC, period.
@Legion Mickey only double-crossed Buck and Romeo, he never tried to kill the Rookie nor any of his other fellow members of Alpha-Nine. He only tried detaining or imprisoning Buck and Romeo. He was against killing other human beings.
I hate that they killed rookie in a book smh
Question; How did the Rookie die???
This was the last game I've ever pre-ordered. I learned my lesson.
Same here!!!!
You should've known it wasn't going to be good based off the quality of Halo 4. Halo infinite looks promising though.
@@banginbadger75 Yes blame me for believing the studio could turn it around when 4 games previous in the series (1,2,3, Reach) had been good. Yes. It's my fault for believing all the propaganda that they spewed describing the game. Yes. Blame me for that and not the billion dollar company that decided to put fucking loot boxes in a Halo game. Fuck off.
@@interstellardeskplant it was 343 not bungie, 343 had nothing to do with the games you mentioned
@@mikeed2550 actually they had a small part of Reach and made CE: Anniversary, which is just new graphics over the existing Combat Evolved.
i hated how a certain antagonist was killed in a cutscene in the first mission instead of a epic boss fight that would set the pace the rest of the game.I was really hoping for some awsome bosses in this games not just one you fight every half hour!!!
Would have settled for a certain antagonist living long enough to meet a certain heretic, and for them to have a vocal than physical battle of idealogies.
yup im pretty sure anything a halo fan would of suggested would've been much better.
If only a few people that liked Halo worked at 343.
lol they dont like halo they think they are halo
Five years of lore and build up going back to the Kilo-5 trilogy of books just to be unceremoniously killed in the first mission of the game. That's Halo 5 in a nutshell: Completely ignoring all established canon to go it's own, shitty way.
You left out the most important one: Glasslands! To understand how Blue Team and Halsey escape the shield world. But to understand why they're in it in the first place, you have to read Ghosts of Onyx! But to understand how Linda survived Reach, you have to read First Strike! And so on and so forth... I'm not so sure about Last Light, though
Exactly! Most people don't care for the novels at all so they'll be lost on the story a bit. For example Jul Mdama. All that development shoved into a book, just to kill his ass off in the game. Wtf..
Ghosts of Onyx was the last Halo book I’ve read so I always thought that Halo 4 was a retcon.
@@deeta000 what??? Halo reach retconned fall of reach and onyx
@@centurymemes1208well halo reach technically retconned the fall of reach novel. Certain things like the brutes not being present in the book but were present in the game. Cortana somehow not being with Chief during the events of Reach even though in the book she was with him the whole time up until they left the planet and how Halsey interacted with Spartan IIIs in the game but she didn’t get introduced to the Spartan IIIs until Ghost of Onyx. So yeah it did Retcon certain things and that’s why some fans didn’t like Halo Reach due to the fact it didn’t follow the storyline that was in the novel.
It is extremely sad to see a franchise I literally grew up with sinking this bad.
Besides the campaign, I've seen multi-player gameplay and it doesn't even look like Halo anymore. It looks like some sort of apex-overwatch-destiny generic shit.
Yup, this the so-called "future of gaming".
The gameplay was good, especially the multiplayer. Tired of people only staring at the story as if that describes the entirety of a game, the actual gameplay was something you could have fun with.
Halo Infinite was great, but somehow I felt underwhelmed by it. Don’t know why.
I know this is a few years old but yeah it sucks
Also Us Assassins creed fans know how you feel.
Here are the things Microsoft should've done.
1. Release Halo 4 as a launch title for Xbox one so they can finish up a better story.
2. Delay MCC for the Xbox One S
3. Never make Halo 5 guardians.
4. Should of made Halo infinite the 5th entry of the franchise.
Better yet
Try bungie with respect and keep em far away from activison
MC: "I don't like it..."
Yeah, that was pretty much EVERY Halo veteran's reaction to Halo 5. Prove me wrong, I dare you.
I can't.
Oh yeah? well........ fuck I can’t
How can i when there is no proof
Yeah I think he was just trying to show that master cheif would never fucking say "I don't like it" lol such a pointless line.
Killbuster can’t prove a negative
Has anybody else realized that the Halo series is going through the exact same thing as the Star Wars movies?
Original Trilogy: Brilliantly sets up the heroes, villains, weapons, vehicles, and motivations for the universe they exist in. Known as perhaps the greatest Space Action series in their respected platforms.
Reach=Rogue One: Prequel. Main character is unimportant but more skilled than the NPCs/extras. The team is killed off as they deliver a valuable piece of technology to the ship that escapes and sets up the very beginning of the entire series. Reach/Rogue One are both enjoyed by almost everybody.
(Halo does not have a prequel trilogy, so I won't mention Star Wars' prequels)
Sequel trilogy: Changed the art style and design of clothing, vehicles, weapons, and buildings; not exactly something people wanted, but we rolled with it. The first entry to the sequels was decent for some, but terrible for others.
But then the second entry to the sequel comes along and holy cow were we unhappy. We are disappointed by characters from the original trilogy because they are nothing like they were back then (Luke/Cortana), we spent so much time with characters we didn't like (Rose/Locke), and political messages were smothered in our faces (Women are superior to men/ Justice for the enslaved AI's).
After seeing the dumpster fire that was Rise of Skywalker, I am very concerned for Halo: Infinite
Same can be said for Gears of War.
Jamie Arnold spread the word.
They badly need to move on to new ip's
Rise of Skywalker was way better than last Jedi though. I had fun watching it. The characters didn’t make me cringe every other sentence lol not great but it’s was fun enough. Never want to see it again. I almost left during last Jedi
To compare the Halo sequels to the Star Wars sequels is an insult to the Halo sequels. At least Halos 4, 5 and Wars 2 are their own new storyline that isn’t copying the old games wholesale.
“Hunt the truth podcast, who can you trust?” Obviously not 343.
Who else is watching this after the Infinite Gameplay Reveal thinking this will be a repeat of 5?
You cant stop fanboys from consooooming.
Well Halo 5 Is Winning Rn
14:07
Arbiter:I will continue my campaign against the humans...
Truth:No!!!
he knows about doing the right thing i love how they have teamed up
Soon the great journey will begin
The amount of detail put into that game including that slight bit of foreshadowing in that exchange at the beginning blows my mind
"Your inability to safeguard Halo, was a colossal failure."
-Prophet of truth to 343i
If you think modern Bungie could do better, you're a moron.
Cody N I disagree, could I ask what makes you think that?
Nay! It was HERESY!
Liam Patchett lol love the reference
Cody N you’re a moron if you think these games by 343 could even give Bungie competition. The first 3 games and Reach absolutely wipe the floor with 4 and 5. Coming from someone who thought Reach would be terrible without Master Chief, it ended up being my favorite “aside from 3”.
I played Halo 5 before any of the other games in the series, and I just assumed that the story didn't make sense because I skipped ahead to the fifth game. But after seeing this... wow.
I love how The ACT MAN tells it like it is.
Not everyone does he gets a lot of dislikes look at his death standing video
@@Don11037 he didn't say everyone did
@@nepnep1802 I don't know what i was responding to
@@Don11037 oof
Had halo 5 for almost 3 years. Still haven't passed the campaign
but that multiplayer thooough
@@rodneylittle5756 is still worse than Halo 2, 3 and Reach's multiplayers by far... Funny how even with sprint you still move slower than you did in Halo 3, yet it slows the game down by preventing movement. Also, crouch jumping > clamber. Weapons have less character to them, req boxes are just more modern style CoD bullshit, and the maps design is far far worse than halos 1-3.
I'm trying to do it now, just did 5 missions of trashness
how the fuck have you not sold it? you must quite blatantly like it, gtfo of here
4 years later and I stopped playing after finishing the campaign I only reached SR23, meanwhile in bo3 (game from the same year) I reached prestige 10
I think that Microsoft and 343 industries spent more money on the marketing and advertisement then on the actual game
xu da yes and this type of greedy thinking amongst devs/pubs has become a big problem this generation!
they just want money #bring back bungee
Bungie, good joke
CarbonCat No. Not Bungie. Not anymore. They've lost their magic. Look at Destiny.
KEEP IT AT 117 LIKES!!!
H4 Lasky: I was sent here with orders to prevent you from leaving and going awol. But take this fully armed pelican and good luck to you both on stopping the Didact.
H5 Lasky : Locke! Arrest that man! He refused to return to the infinity when I told him to.
Look at how they ruined a potentially great character
Look how they massacred my boy
They could of justified chief going rogue by making him kill other Spartans because they are killing civilians. The spartan program was designed to put down civil war and revolts originally. Since the covenant are defeated they could make it so the Spartans are doing their original purpose. Eventually it gets to chief cause he keeps thinking about what Cortana said about not being a machine. So in order to save lives he kills Spartans he's with and is declared a traitor. The themes could be about being a good soldier, ends justify the means, PTSD, soldiers being machines and so forth
Damn you need to write these games!!
we miss you so much bungie. damn its so sad.
Bungie worked miracles. The Halo Franchise is to Bungie as the Mantle is to the Forerunners.
John Stuart not even joking whats the mantle? You can see how little i remember from halo 4 or 5? Didnt even finish 5
+TwinBorn The Mantle is the Forerunners' responsibility to safe-guard all life-forms in the universe.
The game they shat out two years ago was shit too..
Hell I didn't even finish 4. Once 343 got hold of Halo I was uneasy. I gave it a shot because it seemed like it might be a pretty good game. The only thing "good" that came out of it was watching the ending cinematics(legendary or otherwise) that I didn't even get to myself. The story bored me and I went straight to multiplayer. I can't imagine what 5 is like now after seeing this video.
I am literally surprised they were never sued for click baiting because the trailer stated or acted like you could chose an ending where Chief or Locke dies
They would have said "that is why its called #huntthetruth" or some shit like that.
I understand now why none of the marketing was ever shown in French media.
Put quite bluntly, French law actually makes those trailers illegal so Microsoft probably decided it was better not to advertise here unless they wanted a first world judicial system fucking them up.
How would they make a game following that? You are stupid if you thought that was a possibility.
>halo
>choose an ending
Sacrilege
@@alexanderholzer7392 Nay, it was heresy!
No no you don't really understand how dumb that scene 13:11 is
The covenant and their massive army brought down the UNSC greatest space research base, codename Reach (where they created the fuckin chief) and decimated the galaxy best squad on that planet in 12 days....12 DAYS. They were already a few months away from winning the god damn human-covenant war in 2525. This scene was humiliating. The elites are the best of the best of the sangheili warriors. When a sangheili warrior is given a blade that means they have what it takes to be the guard of the council or higher ups (of what was). It basically means they are officers. The fact one idiotic spartan took down 5 officers at the closest range is a horrible way to make this scene.
I loved how 3 books setup jul’mdama as the new threat to the UNSC/Elites and dude gets killed in a cutscene
You forgot to mention, that you have to play all of the Spartan ops missions in Halo 4, to understand why Halsey was captured.
ARC-77 Fordo which are not part of the regular campaign?
@@Darriusleonard There's solo...
NO NO NO NOT THOSE AGAIN
True
They were God awful
Goddamn I choke laughing everytime I revisit these
lol same
Its a scream of agony in disguise.
Same :)
Lol
You're a fake Halo fan HaloFollower.
The worst thing Halo 5 did, for me: it made me question whether the previous titles were any good to begin with.
Let me explain: The series has been a substantial part of my life. I sank countless hours into Halo CE and 2 and 3. And even later titles, like Reach and 4, while not as good, were still fun to me. And I have come to realize that the story is a big part of why I love Halo so much. It was the first time lore in a video game really sucked me in. I was worried the writing would take a hit when 343 took over, but 4's story was really damn good. I had faith the franchise was in good hands.
And then I played this.
I was mesmerized at just how awful the writing was, how cobbled together it felt. And after that, I started noticing flaws with everything else in the game; the poor sandbox balancing, the pitifully short, obviously rushed campaign, the bland level design, the cringy dialogue, the shifted focus from campaign to multiplayer, the dumbing down of the gameplay to appeal to a more COD audience, movement being made more sluggish, bad enemy AI, visuals being dumbed down compared to beta, etc. It all started to leave a really bad taste in my mouth.
I wanted to go back to previous titles, to get this trash pile off my mind. But when I did, I'd find those exact same flaws sprinkled in other titles in the series. The repetitive level design in CE, the shitty weapon balancing, rushed campaign and downgraded graphics in Halo 2, the slow as molasses player movement and sepia color palate in Reach, the laughable dialogue and multiplayer focus in Halo 3, the dogshit AI in Halo 4. Those flaws had always been there. I couldn't stop seeing them when I played through.
It got to the point that, for the longest time, I didn't want to play a Halo game. I've thankfully managed to get back into the series as of late, and come to realize that many of those flaws weren't as egregious as I initially thought, and were more a product of technical limitations and time constraints than bad design. But I will never go back to Halo 5. It tainted the reputation of one of my favorite series, and nearly gaslit me into thinking the franchise was always bad. And I can never forgive it for that.
Master Chief? You mind telling me what you’re doing in this game?
Sir.
Doing it for money.
Remember when halo was a masterpiece
I miss bungie halo
@@kreigguardsman3355 move on man
Remember when Bungie make Halo games
Dont sound like the franchise is lost all the games are flop
MASTAPIECE
What angered me the most was the mistreatment of the blue team. As a hardcore halo fan who have read the books, I was so excited that blue team was actually coming back. I have always wanted to see how fast Kelly could actually run, or how amazing Linda was with a sniper, but they never had a chance to shine in the game. Blue team was never portrayed in the legendary status that it should be, and most important of all, they should be the family that John has ever known since the age of 6. They should have acted much closer in the game, but to my disappointment they were just like any other generic squad mates cloned from countless video games. Screw you 343 for ruining blue team and for shoving generic Locke down our throats.
Even if Locke was inevitable, I would have been much happier if the boss fights were taking on the blue team one at a time, each having their own unique abilities and needed the players to overcome them. Imagine how amazing it could have been..even if it meant killing Kelly Linda and Fred, then master chief could have an actual reason to hate and fight Locke :(
Exactly blue team were the best Spartans in the spartan 2 program and they kicked major ass through the entire war
I wish I could see Kelly just sprint around and Mach 5 :(
Or see Linda dangle upside down from a rope and snipe people
But nope. Team Osiris happened.
Yup I got all the books for my birthday. I was excited to play alongside blue team but I got slapped in the face
I read all the books up until Halo 4 came out. I'm not going to waste my time with any more, I may go back and re-read those old books though.
I know this is old, but I loved the older books (there's been 8 since i dropped Halo holy shit) and after playing the campaign at a friends house I had literally no idea that Blue team was the same ones from the books. For claiming to be big fans of the extended universe they mishandled that so hard.
I like how they built up cortana into this dangerous foe that was going to light the rings then in the next game she is just beaten before the game even begins and replaced with a new enemy.
So basically halo wars 2 was more relevant than halo 5.
I just started Infinite after replaying 5, and 2 hours in I'm so baffled. Wasnt Cortana about to tyrannize the galaxy with giant robots? Now i'm going up against a Tartarus Brute rip off and apparently Cortana is already defeated somehow?? Wtf.
You know what would be badass. If they made a halo game based off of buck becoming a spartan, and forgetting the shitty halo 5 plot
the only good thing about this game is buck (My second favourite halo character) being a spartan.
I really liked both teams blue and Osiris
I really liked the story and I'm looking forward to seeing how it ends
"Just an ODST"
I felt that they fucked with Buck's character. Sure his signature sarcasm was and cynicism was there, but a lot of the stuff he did was out of character. Him becoming a Spartan IV in the first place goes against what he was like in ODST; a muddy boots hardened leader of soldiers, not part of a flashy clique of Spartan super soldiers. Plus the fact that he just seemed to go along with working with the elites, after they glassed Reach and nearly killed him time after time. He was out of character far too often.
Bay is Bae nobody cares. Halo 5 was good and that is a fact.
hamie that’s the only person I liked also
Besides John obviously
"You have to read a comic book, before you play a video game .. we've entered a new level of nerd" -Conan O'Brien
As someone who've read the novels, I was SUPER excited for Blue Team's appearance. Marketing was dope. And then the game came out.
I highkey wish that Blue Team didn't appear in this mess of a game at all.
Blue team was Fred, Linda, John etc right? I remember reading The Fall of Reach, The Flood and First Strike last year, great books, but I kinda forgot most of it! 😅
This channel does not exist. pretty much, also don't worry I haven't remembered much of the other spartans as well (aside from those who died aboard Unyielding Hierophant).
On a more positive note tho it makes us re-read the novels again, good lords I specifically enjoyed First Strike.
I think they put them in the game specifically to deceive people like you lol.
Remember the Chief vs. Locke fight where the 6 squad characters just kinda stand around as if they’re looking for something to do? I think that mostly sums up their role in the story.
The Big Yes deceived? I feel betrayed my dude. They just inserted Blue Team for the sake of having coop stuff even tho they don't serve much purpose in the story.
Now I can't really be hopeful about 343i integrating the expanded lore stuff into future games.
@thebigyes8482 Blue Team already went through the portal. Osiris stood down because if they'd jumped Chief he would've been destroyed.
In my own head canon, the series ended with Halo 4. Master Chief abandoned his life as a machine and became a human and that was a great place to end in my opinion especially since they showed his eyes at the end.
BTW halo nightfall was garbage
I liked it
it was super cringy
Pepos Con Well since I major in film I was more keen on its flaws
twas all for the armor, yet innocent souls were lost
Most of the first episode was boring.
0:35 They misspelled Lasky's name... in their own behind-the-scenes video...
Fuck.
xD
Retroflection 343 the company of typos.
Lmao
343 would have gone down as legends if they made Halo 5 a two part game. Part 1 you deal more with Locke and his team and how he Came to be and how he came to hunt chief, to include a lore accurate fight between the two where Locke realizes… he’s not the one.
Part 2 ends part 1 in the realization that Locke NEEDS to help chief find Cortana. They save Cortana from corruption BECAUSE the didact “hacked” her and was using her to activate the guardians.
Cortana at this point either fully “dies” or is saved and no longer suffers rampancy.
Bringing Cortana back was a bad move imho. It serves no purpose to do that. Yeah, she as a favorite character, but it was also a great opportunity to teach us how to deal with loss. The more you like/love someone, the harder it is to let go and I believe it's important for all of us to learn how to overcome it.
Fingers crossed that Halo Infinite is going to be good. After seeing this video again, my hopes and dreams started to dwindle
Hello there
Man I'm scared the epic ass trailer lying to us rn
@@conspiracyarchive6265 i have faith in halo infinite
Conspiracy Archive it’s not halo 6 it’s halo infinite that’s like calling ODST halo 4
Hello
I can't express in words how much I hated that opening scene. I like to think of the covenant as the formidable opponents I faced growing up with through the original games and not these pathetic targets that don't fight back. I immediately judged the game before I even started playing because of that scene
because it the fall of the covenant and the banished are the new threat if you ever played halo wars 2 you would know nothing sucks about halo 5 dont get all the hate its amazing and tbh alot people are ruining it because they know nothing about halo !
Okay, squeaker
@@The_Legend117 "because it the fall of the covenant"... they would still be the same soldiers with the same technology. But hypothetically lets say the during their fall training files were deleted. THE ELITES ARE LITERALLY BORN FOR WAR. THAT IS WHAT THEY TRAIN FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. forgetting that crucial detail one doesn't need training to literally stab someone in the back.
SAS Legend halo wars 2 didn’t come out until well after halo 5s release
@@The_Legend117 "if you ever played a completely different game, you'd know the one you were playing was good"
That's not how ANY of this works.
Spartan Locke and his group were clearly not playing on Legendary in that opening scene
As someone who read all of the novels released before Halo 5, I can safely assure you that reading the novels does not make Halo 5's story any better. As a matter of fact, I'd argue that it actually makes the story worse, because there were a lot of cool things in the books that got little to no payoff in Halo 5.
I had a feeling that was the case
i always thought 343's campaigns where shit
+Nikos GR117 true
+Nikos GR117 Halo 4 certainly got a lot of flack at release, but given time (and the shit we got with Halo 5) it has made Halo 4 a better game story wise. Gameplay was still boring as hell, but the story has come into it's own.
+OozyGorilla no they made halo 4s ending mean nothing anymore because cortina gets out of charecter and turns bad. And it couldent be someone controlling here because she still loves chief. It's fucked
Oh, no. I agree. Halo 5 made everything plot related to Halo 4 irrelevant. What I'm saying is, the story and the storytelling grew on people. It now being irrelevant is ancillary to that fact.
Right? Halo 4's story was at least slightly compelling, but the campaign was from a gameplay and settting standpoint just stale and repetitive, lacking that halo magic.
Me: *buys Halo 5 because of awesome marketing*
Me: *plays 2 missions*
Me: *burns game and replays Halo 3*
Yes, I did actually burn my copy of Halo 5
Anthony Davis If you find your copy of the-game-that-shall-not-be-named, I have a fire pit.
Normally I’d say that’s a bit extra but with this game I understand
Ben Walls *Warthog Run starts playing loudly
i wish that was me but since i have a digital copy... should i just burn the xbox?
LT FreeBorn yes it’s been tainted.
Also why in the hell would Master Chief need to wear a robe in the desert?
I think that bothers me the most now
The opening scene was suppose to show how good lock and his team actually are, being able to take in sooo much. And that’s why they were picked to hunt down the best Spartan 117
Doesn’t help that the enemies are a bunch of dipshits who don’t know how to fire a gun or fly a ship.
Its still a dumb af cutscene that doesnt fit Halo's narrative and storytelling in any way. It looks like the writer Just tried to fit a generic action scene from a movie featuring Keanu Reeves or The Rock and think Its brilliant.
No, Its fucking not. The Covenant are known for being formidable foes and not weaklings like the scene represented them. Remember How in Halo Reach the Noble team, which were Spartans III, was struggling to defend Reach from the covenant attack and How they eventually Lost the planet and It got destroyed by the same army? Keep in mind that each Spartan's generation gets weaker due to being less exposed to the same dangerous experiments that created past Spartans, John 117 is a Spartan II while Locke and his team are Spartans IV, there no fucking way he would even be able to be equal to Chief, and realistically the Spartan IVs would get killed the moment they started doing those fancy jumps because the covenant are a serious threath to be dealt with. Remember thel' Vadam? Or the arbiter for easy remembering, before he got punished in Halo 2 and became the arbiter he was the commander of the covenant army that destroyed Reach, His army wiped out almost the entire Noble Team, and Noble Six himself.
And them Halo 5 expects me to believe that the weaker generation of Spartans known as Spartans VI would easily destroy the Covenant like They're grunts? Please.
@@naoaquieopatrickpatrick8565 i will say this. u aint wrong.
Honestly, I’ve read and watched the majority of Halo’s extended lore, and I still thought the story was dog shit.
Why would you call yourself the Act Man and not title the parts as "Acts?"
The action scenes are visuals are gorgeous but it's all for nothing. There's no reason to care because everything we cared about in the marketing is absent
What went wrong?
The team that made spartan ops for halo 4 is the team that made halo 5. From what I understand, the majority of the team that actually made the good bits of halo 4 left 343 industries early in halo 5s development. That's why it's pretty bad.
@Litza nah Halo 4 did have amazing parts open your eyes wider
Litza The story is the best one in Halo.
Halo 4's story would've been awesome if everything we needed to understand was in the story and not described through terminals.
It still had its emotionally moving moments and cool moments; Introduction to Didact, Chief disobeys Delrio, Cortana's death.
Wasn't good in comparison to the previous games but still pretty good. Chief and Cortana's relationship in the story was really well done, and ultimately ruined by her resurrection and being a villain in 5.
@@Fazer_600 Halo 4 had some of the best character writing in the franchise with a lot of it coming down to how John was reacting to the slow and painful death of someone he truly cared about and probably loved. The rest of the game just completely destroyed the overall mythos of the universe.
Even with or without reading the books, Halo 5 still is no different, still hard to understand anything
I agree, I've read all those EU materials except for Hunt the truth and Nightfall and it did nothing for the plot.
why is that so true?
like, I had already read everything there is to know about halo and watched everything, and I was still like "what the fuck is this bullshit?" when I saw it.
Plus that opening scene looked so cartoonish. They’re falling down a hill at what, 60 mph? And also shooting people? Lol ok
It reminds me about that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles scene
Bungie released masterpieces on a rushed timescale and overhead pressure. 343 released dumpster fires with Hollywood-level funding and overhead support, repeatedly showing that they don't understand Halo as a story or a game. I don't understand how people can defend 343. Contrarianism maybe?
There are so many developers that manage to weave expanded universe into the actual games without alienating non-EU players and giving players that do enjoy the EU a ton to appreciate and discover about the story and world. Franchises like Dead Space, the Starcraft or Warcraft series and so many more are prime examples of how to let people who just play the games enjoy the games and how to give people that absolutely adore the lore and universe a ton to love
343 could've done that, but instead of having EU compliment and provide greater context or understanding of the story, it becomes a barrier to entry, and that's a shame. Halo 1-Reach and even 4 to an extent didn't rely on EU to simply enjoy the campaign, it only made the experience more enjoyable when something that happened in the books or comics was referenced in some Terminal, Data Log or cutscene dialogue. If you didn't get the reference or understand the full weight of the references you were fine, the game didn't use these references as story focal points and they generally explained a summarized version of what the reference is about to give at least some context to what was being showed to the player
Halo 5 doesn't fail because it uses and references EU in its story, Halo 5 fails because it requires you to have expansive knowledge of the EU just to enjoy or understand the opening cutscene. Maybe that's what you actually meant, but I just figured I'd throw my 2 cents in regardless
This right here, man! EXCELLENT COMMENT! And you give perfect examples of other games that are able to please both crowds without alienating one or the other
Keep up the fantastic work man, I didnt realize Halo content creators of this quality existed, but Im gonna have to binge your channel because every video is absolutely top notch and Im loving every second of it
I seriously cant thank you enough for all of the thought pieces and well done analysis videos. Stuff like this inspires me to want to become a better abd more involved writer or part of the community
The first trilogy for Halo did a great job in that aswell. As someone who knows a good amount of Halo's backstory and lore, I was still confused as fuck as to what was going on.
Illuvial whats EU?
Dale Gribble
EU is just an acronym for Expanded Universe which is the comics, books, movies, basically anything outside of the source material
As a guy who never read the books and then blue team was introduced in the second mission... I was like WTF?!! I thought Master Chief was the last OG spartan!! Who the hell are these guys and where did they come from? No explanation in any of the games and now you're suddenly gonna slap this in the player's face. 343i needs to get this out of their heads that campaign is meant for the hardcore lore enthusiasts while the rest of the players only play multiplayer anyways so its no big deal if they are lost... what kind of logic is that?!
To understand Blue Team, you only need to read 'The Fall of Reach'. It's dirt cheap too; I got it for £5 YEARS AGO!!! It's probably barely a quid now.
TRITON K175 yeah the fall of reach its a good movie for explaining the Spartan ll program and it is quite cheap but why should I watch it just to understand the Spartans and how blue team was formed
RedLightGamers if you really want an explanation as to where was blue team after the events of Reach simply go read Ghost of Oynx
The campaign is for everybody
I had read the fall of reach (luckily) but I also immediately hated the way Blue team was handled.
Was cool to see them but the immediate thought it, wait, its Blue team from the book, where's their introduction? How did they hook up with chief again? Thank f*** I read Fall of Reach or I'd have no clue who these people are.
Just spent a pointless mission with that dude from the trailer I don't care about and Buck and now I'm with Blue team and they don't even get an intro....
About the trailers, they sold Locke as a ruthless hunter who would take Chief head on and put him down without doubts, that is what hyped me up at that time.
The cutscene from reach where the invisible elites drop down on noble team because the girl gave up there position will always be one of my favorite moments in halo. It was also my first halo game, Lotta love for that game
10:50 Anybody else feel like they are starting in the middle of the series that they don't know the backstory on? Because I am a huge Halo fan, but Halo 5 makes me feel like I am starting in the middle of a completely different series.
My biggest problem with Halo 5 is the fact that nothing happened at all to create any emotion whatsoever! In Halo CE, you found the flood which was scary, and you lost the whole entire Pillar of Autumn and your whole entire crew, in halo 2 the elites get kicked out and 2 prophets die, a bunch of characters that have been building up throughout the whole series die in Halo 3, and in Halo Reach you and your team die and you lose an entire planet.
At least in Halo 4 it seemed as if Cortana died which created emotion, but in Halo 5, I guess Cortana becomes evil for uh... some reason or another...
Uncultured
Act Man:"This is the sory it released with and there no going back from that"
Halo Infinite: "Locke? Locke who?"
I just keep rewatching these videos every so often, because they’re so god damn good! Even back then Act Man was blessing us with masterpieces like this
Memorable sayings in Halo 5: Guardians
“Get the hell out of here!”
“Who are you?”
“coRtana”
The marketing lies is what i'm most salty about.
Man I remember seeing them and being like:
"Woah woah woah, Chief's betraying humanity?! What the hell going on? Oh my God is this the end of Chief?!"
Then I watch the desert one
"Wait is that Cortana?!"
My brother: "she died man"
Me: "what?!"
(Btw parents stopped me playing halo after reach similar to the act man)
Like I wanted to play this game so bad
Then I remember seeing this chart of all this lore stuff and I was like
"What the hell, I have to read all this?"
whats worse about the game is the fact that the covenant design is almost as bad as halo 4. also it doesn't even feel like the player is the spartan it just feels like they are just controlling master chief
I only played Halo 5 once, like partially, but my stepbrother bought it, one time is enough.
I just hate that Osiris Team got more attention than Blue team (which are just as badass as the MC himself lore-wise)
They should have just cut out Osiris and have us play as Master Chief,Arbiter and the Rest of Blue Team
Me: Oh can’t wait to play this game, I heard it is awesome!
*Master Chief is barely playable*
Me: I’m going to burn it down
Have the game over 3 years. Never even started the game. Idk why i bought it, fr..
Hes 100% playable. Hes a machine isn't he at this rate. Until Infinite infinitely ramps up the Halo Hype train
@@xilongschaiper3697 tell me how many missions do you play as chief.
@@thetraveler2224 There is 3 I think? Am I right?
Chief is playable, u switch between him and locke
6:05 I actually know a lot about the expanded lore, and even I was left kinda scratching my head at some points. Guess I'm not enough of a nerd :/
This aged very well with basically all cutscenes in Infinite 10:14
Halo 3: ODST introduced Buck, Dutch, Romeo, Mickey, Dare, and the Rookie effectively, I think. Even though some of the lines are clearly so that you know who is who: "How 'bout you show some respect, Romeo!" "Just sayin', Dutch..." "Dunno, Mickey..." The lines are delivered very naturally. In Halo 5 it seems like Chief's "Thanks, Kelly." was him looking to the audience and saying "Okay, did everyone catch that? Her name is Kelly. Kell-ee!" While it isn't necessarily "fair" to so aggressively drop the hammer on 343i for the shit-show that is Halo 5, I feel like when you're following the footsteps of Halo, you really need to put your best foot forward. You don't have to stop the rotation of the earth, 343i, but slow the spin down a little bit, we expected better.
Damn it, so true
343i: *blows up halo lore*
bungie: i am become death, destroyer of worlds..
At least bunji can tell a story with expanded stuff and still have you invested without it
I still don’t consider anything after Halo 3 (chronologically) as canon.
7:24 to be honest, I should do my homework right now
Same