Which ending is the "good" ending? [DARK SOULS]
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- čas přidán 17. 03. 2013
- Short answer? Dark Souls has no "good" ending.
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True ending:
- Ask Priscilla on a date
- Try to speak to Quelaag instead of killing her
- farm baby skeletons humanities and feed them to the Fair Lady
- Save Solaire and Siegmeyer
- Save the Bonfire Keeper in Firelink Shrine
- Adopt Sif
- Have a nice bbq every Sunday afternoon and use Frampts flooded altar as a pool for the kids
Yeah, the Old Witch's Ring really should have allowed you to skip the Quelaag fight. Also, the humanity phantoms in Manus's lair have the highest humanity drop rate.
This needs to happen.
@Vistil Shaiteth nope, if you kill the weird enemy vacuum things in Lost Izalith before talking to him then talking to him he’ll actually get to survive
You have me agreeing when you said ask priscilla on a date. Everyones favorite dragon waifu❤.
Damn, if only Gwenevere was available in that situation. Better yet, all we need is Sif, forget everyone except Sif, Laurentius, Solaire, Siegmeyer, and Rhea!
The painted world seems like a nice place to live. I've heard the land is peaceful, its inhabitants kind.
Priscilla will make it worth! :
the spear implements are the best c:
Have you seen the basement? I feel like Priscilla lied just a little...
+Itachi Uchiha cringe
Frarlic gies You're a weak bitch then.
The best ending is agreeing to help Frampt them simply turning towards the Dark completely by accident (because I didn't know where to go besides back through the door), suddenly being worshipped by a bunch of ugly serpents.
My ending.
Oh yes. The same happened to me. Never meet other snake
@@sychuan3729 is it because you killed gwyndolin before going to the abyss ? It happenned to me as well...
@@elbermax2631 Nope. I never meet Gwyndolin. Actually I went to Abyss almost in the end of game. I killed knights in Abyss and after that I went to kill Gwyn
same, I just wanted to see what the orange stamps were saying outside the door and boom the dark ending cutscene. I am still salty...
@@denizkubilay3937 you got the better ending
Gwyn: i will use my soul to defeat the dragons
Witch of izalith: i will use my soul to try to recreate the first flame
Furtive Pygmy: i will use my soul to make humanities and an age of dark
Nito: ima just chill in my tomb
In other words, Nito is the smart one
Witch Of Izalith: "My goodness, what an idea! Why didn't I think of that?"
Welcome to the bone zone
@@inquisitionagent9052 it's cool to see I'm not the only one with a name for the trunk of my car
@@jacobl6714 lmao
The Dark ending is the bad ending because now you have to put up with Frampt's ungodly chewing sounds for the rest of your life as the Dark Lord. Several weeks of lunch breaks with a dozen frampts will make you wished you linked the flame. GOOD JOB.
LMAO 10/10
Positive of living with Frampt he has a nice voice and that's it
his breath is lethal
I can't wear headphones around those fucking snakes. Their damn teeth sound like horse hooves and something crunchy. I hate them.
WTF is he chewing anyways?!?!
Chosen undead: "PRISCILLA DEAR! I made is breakfast."
Priscilla: "Thou must returneth whence thou came.."
us*...
MyLadygaga1 g
Sounds about right
PRAISE THE tail
Praise the Fluffytail!
Which ending is the "good ending"?
Vaati: No.
Everything ends, and it's always sad
Don't end it, make a new start with Priscilla.
@@fendysusanto876 But everything begins again and that's always happy.
@@aisnota5192 like i said make new beginning with Priscilla
@@fendysusanto876 You cannot.
@@aisnota5192 who decide that?
☀️☀️☀️
Me choosing the Dark Ending: “Well everything’s fucked regardless in this universe so I might as well enjoy high status.”
Sigma grindset ending
Dark Souls 1: No good endings
Dark Souls 2: Your choices don't matter / screw the choice, I choose FREEDOM
Dark Souls 3: Keep the fire (choose the rot), become Griffith, or let the world begin its natural course into the next age. One ignorant (bad) ending, one questionable (evil) ending, one good ending.
@@OtepRalloma but the thing with the dark ending is that ds is a big loop. If you let the fire fade it stars again and the whole cycle of despair continues. The best ending is the usurpation because it (hopefully) breaks the cycle and lets humans or hollows, which are the true form of humanity, live without the gods being huge jerks.
@@chlopaczekhula3524 If you let the fire fade, you let a fresh fire start some time in the future. The problem isn't the fire. The problem is they never let it go out. It's like making a new painting.
The Usurpation ending feels like the dark version of Gwyn's sin-an endless age of dark. It'll just lead to rot again.
@@OtepRalloma ok actually that’s smart. Gonna have to take back my statement on this one
The true ending is turning Sif into your pet and just chill with Priscilla. Maybe bring Quelaag's Sister and Ciaran along.
You know, I have a thing for the Darkmoon Knightess, let's take her as well and then we'll be set.
What about our dear sunbroo?
sunbromance
What about trapfu?
You have a think for waifus
I didn't even realize that I had a choice. I just wanted to light the bonfire and boom, ending cutscene:/
I thought i got the power of the flame, like how gwyn's sword was on fire... and how i was in no pain.
Frampt and the others said i would "inherit" and link the flame once again, i assumed i took the lordsoul within me much like gwyn and the others did when they first found it. Not sacrificing myself as fuel for it like gwyn desperately did eventually.
Same apart from I got the 'bad ending' by mistake. I wanted to explore the area before lighting the bonfire, went too close to the stairs
I havent even seen the bonfire and was searching the wall for an exit. and so i got the dark ending :/
Vexi Tectonix It was in the middle of the area
The true canon ending is losing Frampt by jumping down and placing the lordvessel yourself because he wouldn't wake up. Never meeting Kaathe due to nopeing out of the abyss after Four Kings followed by linking the flame accidentally because you assume it's another bonfire.
THIS HAPPENED TO ME.
Happened to me too. Couldn't agree more. First time noobishness. NG+ will go better I hope.
I didn’t see Kaathe in the abyss lmao
This describes everything I did except for jumping down alone, i accidentally noped out of the abyss without seeing Kaathe and absolutely linked the flame by instinctively trying to rest at the bonfire. lol
@@theegreenoneyou can see him only if you never talk to Frampt. The 4 Kings is the only lord you can defeat before placing the lord vessel in his place
Funny how 5 years ago you said at the end - "Instead of choosing an ending go live with Priscilla or something". I know it was a joke, but it's nice and coincidental that the end-ending of the souls series involves you taking the dark soul to the painting woman, so refuge can be taken within a painted world from the real world's end.
Sadly i think that even that ending is not "perfect" a new painting is a new world, as the previous ones (Ariamis and Ariandel) were slowly taken by the rot, i think this one too will inevitably rot and the cycle continues
@Tig Black The biggest theme of Dark Souls as a story is that everything rots.
@@meathir4921 that's kinda why they had a positive ending for DS3. DS1 is way more depressing than the other souls games (there's literally not one net positive outcome in the entire game, NPCs included) and DS2 and DS3 kinda reverse that. DS2's ending is just straight up good for the character and a journey that we actually triumph in on our own terms and DS3 base's "canon" ending is probably letting the dark set in through the fire keeper and not Yuria, which also ends on a hopeful note. Thus the DLC ending is also positive, because first off there's nothing to indicate otherwise, and secondly the "everything will fade" theme of DS1 stayed there, in DS1. 2 and 3 had themes and endings with atleast some positive outcomes (DS2 finally sees you freed from the curse and hope that there's freedom from the cycle, DS3 base game finally ushers in an age of dark unmarred by Kaathe and the Abyss, with firekeeper saying there's hope for the future, and DS3 dlc ending in a note where there starts a new world that will be free of war and decay. DS1 just has primordial serpents manipulating you and you become an unknown with no glory, both in the base game as subsequent games don't mention the chosen undead at all meaning Frampt probably snuffed out all proof of our existence, and all NPCs end up hollow or dead). DS3 DLC literally is built around hope, as seen by patches's quest, which exemplifies the spirit of that DLC and the game as a whole; everything might not be fucked.
@@bruschetta7711 That's why the girl wanted the remnant of the dark soul for the painting, it will make the painting avoid rot
I kindled the First Flame because I wanted to level up, and I didn't know the game was over.
looooool
Rirst thing anyone does who does not know the story
What do you know? It's only there for those who look, and I was blind as a bat.
Alexander Novara same happened to me
I saw i got 50 thousand souls so the that was the first thing I did. I had no idea I was given a choice of endings haha
I just went to the place where the crestfallen dude sat in and took his place.
***** But but . . . Priscilla waifu.
winterwolf211
look man if he wants to hand out estus flask to new characters on NG while talking about bells in a flooded room, let him.
Jalenleegamer But the crestfallen doesnt give estus flasks D; That was Oscar.
winterwolf211
ah, thought he ment Oscar.
why is there always a crestfallen guy anyway?
Jalenleegamer It represents a failed you in an alternate dimension ;-;
"That's dumb, you're dumb." -Other Snake that isn't framp
“I’m gonna find some more dudes to burn” -Other snake that isn’t Kaathe
“You know what you guys need…?”
@@PhosphoricKnight "To feed on the humanity of the primordial man, Manus!"
@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem"you know what you guys need?...to feed on the humanity of other humans!"
What I find to be one of the most glaring and overlooked details is the fact that the flame came from the darkness to begin with.
Let the fire die.
It will come again.
So, rather than keep the existing one alive, kill it so it respawns? If that's how it goes then both ending are the exact same, maybe a few more years for dark ending but pretty much the same
@@daifuku75 obviously both are not the same as seen in DS3.
Imagine the end of our Universe.
You face two choices;
1. It just keeps going but nothin new grows and all else just crumbles to dust.
2. It all ends so that it can begin again with fresh new energy.
That’s the choice.
One is stagnation, the other is renewal.
Wow, these games are just bundles of sunshine, aren't they?
+Asher Flanagan Emphasis on *Dark* in Dark Souls.
Asher Flanagan cant you feel the sunshine? does it brighten up your day
Asher Flanagan yes the makers did definitely praise the sun ☀
You ain't praisin' hard enough
Oh, also, even the path I suggest above might not guarantee that the world of Dark Souls would get back on track properly. There may be no good solution, or there may only be solutions that help some, but are detrimental to others.
*AH, SO THIS IS TRUE HUMAN NATURE.*
Love your name.
Me:Nigga wat
You can't fight nature, Jack. Wind blows, rain falls, and the strong prey upon the weak.
an angry undead with a great sword named Gatsu
*PIQUE HUMAN EVOLUTION*
" _So just go live with Pricilla or something_ "
I fucking love this guy
I will point out that in oolacile, it was the abyss, not the dark, that caused the transformation in the populace.
The abyss is shown to be a malevolent force, Artorias's state is proof enough of that, but that doesnt mean the dark is the same
Given that the Abyss is filled with Humanity Sprites I think you missed the point. Also note the Darksign; a ring of fire containing the Dark.
@@meathir4921 All that means is that abyss is strongly related to humanity, not that it's humanity itself. Manus was an ancient human ancestor who got graverobbed and went mad. If they just left him alone there wouldn't have been any abyss at all.
@@jacobnorris8256 Not what I meant, I mean the humanity sprites AREN’T malevolent
VaatiVidya:But do you think he was telling the whole truth
Me: Hell fucking no
did you not see his fucking face
he kinda was like I swear I am telling the truth also don't look at my I am definitely lying smile oke
he kinda was like I swear I am telling the truth also don't look at my I am definitely lying smile oke
Congratulations! You've done it! You beat the game! And nothing you've done matters!
***** your profile pic :) lol, yeah im dissapointed it didn't matter in dark souls 2 :(
matt mutchler well, the 'link the fire' ending is the one that leads to darks souls 2
Dan G I think the more common interpretation is that it doesn't matter if you link the fire or don't. If you don't, someone else one day will come along and link it. Especially since the four "big bads" (lord souls aka great souls) are already out of the way. All it takes is an undead to just link it and bring back an age of fire, at the cost of their own sacrifice.
It's worth noting though, that the age of fire changes length depending on who sacrifices themselves. Chosen undead from DS1 would certainly be a much larger amount of fuel, but the cycle continues no matter what.
As far as DS2 is concerned, either ending from DS1 will still lead to that. It's a cycle that no one's yet broken. If there's ever a DS3, I think breaking that cycle would be a good goal.
Dan G So the sucker ending is canon? :(
Hugh Jass well, as goatmeal said, I guess someone else could come in and link the fire since the doors are wide open and all the boss's are dead. I hadn't considered that myself.
"Just go live with Priscilla or something"
Just go live in the painted world...
Nice future seeing skills Vaati
"Just go and live with Priscilla"
Yup. That's the ending I was looking for
I'll just keep invading another's world, and steal their humanity to feed to The Fair Lady.
Lord's Blade Ciaran I like Queelag's sister she seems like such a nice character. You can't use the dark red orb when you're a Chaos Servant or call yourself a Darkwraith though :( You'll have to settle with ghetto cracked red orbs which, while the same except for being consumable don't have the same feel as using a proper red orb.
You also get really cool armor for upgrading to +2 in the Darkwraith covenant. I have the feeling that everyone and their grandma equips the Darkwraith helmet with the spiked armor set. Can't blame them, it's a really cool looking combo.
Hugh Jass grandmas really likes skull helmets and skipes
alright, kirk.
+Lord's Blade Ciaran I'd do the same, but I usually take them with a Dark Hand and let Kaathe bathe in them.
Congrats. You are now Slave Knight Gael.
Can I take Sif to go live with Priscilla? Cause if so, I'm down.
This should be the ending
Take Artorias and Oscar as guards of your house.
+Rex Box Solaire should come to, after all, you need a drinking buddy.
This thread just made my day.
If we're bringing Artorias then we have to bring Ciaraan.
I love how with that last line "go and live with Priscilla or something" he basically predicted how the dark souls series would end.
That's exactly what happens when arya creates a painted world from the dark soul for humans to live in, free of the fire linking curse
Option 3: save Solaire, the True Sun, bring him to the fight with Gwyn, and then have him ignite the flame, and it will never ever go out.
\[T]/ Praise the Sun!
find the sunlight solaire's looking for and you'll get the true ending
+Obaidskinsoft By your hand expose their heart, by my edge cleave it beating from it's nest.
(e) oops didn't read carry on.
Cryptica2 but the shadow stalker doesn't care about the tenno
Bite The Bullet whaat? he literally ONLY cares about the tenno. the entire plot of the quest was that the stalker was hunting the Tenno and you had to find your tenno before he killed it/you.
Mr. Vulcanator Best line in the game
*runs around Lordrian gathering NPCs -Lautrec*
*Cuts down Dark root*
*Throws all NPCs into Painted world*
*Kill/Imprison all enemies*
*Rebuild town*
*Live happy and peaceful lives in Painted world*
yes.
neoaustin164 And then the painted world begins to rot away and becomes home to more terrible and less than happy folk that will try to kill you. Thus will begin the quest to create a new painted world which will more than likely cause blood to shed.
@@connorclemmons8698 still better than anything dark souls 2 had to offer :'D
@Marek Tužák Well yes but actualy no.
Dark Souls 2 is in itself not a bad game, it is, i would argue, still one of the best games i played, however it is quite bad for a dark souls game. it feels less responsive, there is overall more uninteresting enemy design, the world is less interesting and less interconnected, the game is alao hard for the wrong reasons, since there are enemys that just hit you whereever you stand, while they made blocking less vialble overall. the story is also somehow less catching, but that might be my prefference... overall, it is a good game, but a bad dark souls game
Kill petrus too
When you think about it, the light ending is the good ending because the reason you started this adventure is because Oscar saved your butt from the undead asylum. After which he told you directly that his dying wish is for you to finish what he started. So the least you could do is light the fire and complete the poor guy’s legacy
The true ending in dark soul 1 and 2 is the light ending because if the true ending is dark Ending we will get ringed city at dark soul 1 or 2, but the true ending in dark soul 3 is dark Ending, because If we choose light ending in dark soul 3 the world Will not collapse and we Will not go to ringed city. Just give the blood of dark soul too the Painter and you Will get the ending of all souls series.
@@wl4525 but didn’t Vatti state in one of his DS2 lore videos that he believes that the second game will happen no matter which ending you pick? (I remember him saying that but it is one of his older videos so it’s still a questionable theory)
I think no, because if we choose light ending we Will die and the fire Will not fade and the cycle Will repeat. In dark soul 3 DLC the world end and the fire fade, thats mean we broke the cycle and we choose dark ending because our character still life until the end of the world. So If in dark soul 1 or 2 the true ending is dark Ending there should not be dark soul 3. I Think Vaati says that before the ringed city DLC
@@wl4525 Dark Souls 3 happens possibly thousands of years after Dark Souls. I think you don't have a sense of time here. All 3 games take place in the same physical location, as there is only one Kiln of the First Flame. Almost all the characters in Dark Souls 2 aren't alive yet during Dark Souls 1. Many kingdoms rose, spread, and fell over the ruins of Lordran before Dranlaek came along. And many more came and went before Dark Souls 3. The undead who links the flame in Dark Souls 1 is the first undead to ever link the flame after gwyn, while in Dark Souls 3 all the lord's of cinder have linked the flame before.
That just mean no Undead choice to end the fire for thousand years.
I chose the dark lord ending by accident...after defeating gwyn I decided to do a bit more exploring so I walked back out the giant double doors and then I was the dark lord all of a sudden 🤷♂️
" So instead of choosing an ending just... go and live with Priscilla or something... " XD killed me
LezOrg cuddles and lewd cuddles. Best things in the world. And you get them forevery
Who needs sex when you can get the best cuddles in the world?
@@HYDESDM Too bad replies can't get top comment
Gwen should have just soul glitched the fuck out of some boss souls and fed the flame :D
+LoveMeSomeCake Gwyn should have done the gaping dragon skip for all dragons
Dylan Samuel yes
+Jonah Skiff I assume he means where you use the master key to skip the depths and go straight to Blighttown through New Londo. Or I'm just completely wrong, that's an option :P
yeah the pach that fixes this was not out at the time.....
C'mon Gwyn use the the glitch!! XD
its unpatched still for xbox
Dark Souls endings are: self-sacrifice, entombing yourself while burning to death to prolong the Age of Light so people can have 'living human forms' a bit longer vs becoming a Lord and rule over the zombified humanity (humans' true form is the hollow form)
"Go live with Priscilla or smth"
Accurate prediction of the ending of the last dlc of the last souls game. Living in a painting
Man... was this a spoiler? Come on, its ds1 video not ds3 video..
@@creepywalk4454 you're quite some years late mate, it's time for elden ring now, the dark souls series is long finished and all it's secrets are widespread now
@@Morbak546 yeah kinda😂 missed the opportunity to play
Just started playing btw
Nice series
@@creepywalk4454 well no need to worry, my comment was a stretch from the real state of things, just to make my little joke, so there's no real spoilers there. But I'm sure you'll understand once you reach that point in the story
@@Morbak546 yeahh it's fine dude, it's the dlc anyway. I was too hyped for ds1 i watched the endings without even defeating the capra demon, soooo...
But yeah great series. I'll make sure to update u when i finished it😂😂
The real bad ending is when you level dex.
Says the guy who probably specced into strength and vitality.
Soz golden tracer and halberd bro.
Soz you weren't the first guy.
Knight Lautrec I would if I used a controller.
Knight Lautrec here's your real ending. Beat the game with a mouse and keyboard, then come back to me. I'm sure you'll have a totally different appreciation for halberd tactics.
This is why I've always been drawn to the Dragon covenants. If you really want to get philosophical, while there is no "good guys" or "bad guys" there are chaos and peace. Dragons did not kill, they never changed anything, there was no death and there were no enemies or opposing sides, only gray. For light and dark, white and black are opposites. For being two different things will create conflict. The Lords simply killed the dragons because they thought upper was better than lower. Dragons only started killing when they were provoked and had their land threatened by men, challenging their way of life. Dragons are actually the peaceful creatures in this world. Think about it, has there ever been an elder or ancient dragon that attacked you on sight besides Seath? Undead Dragons, The Elder Dragon, The Dragons all will only attack if you bother them. There are Drakes that will aggro before you attack them, like on the bridge, but Drakes are young Dragons who are experienced with the world of men so of course they'll attack you cause they know you're going to try and kill them. Luckily for the sake of the lore, in Dark Souls 2 SotFS they changed the Dragon's behavior in Dragon's Aerie because those dragons were attacking you first and it didn't fit with the lore. They have small hints that suggest Dragons are peaceful creatures that are the closest thing to "good" in this game, for example in Messages when you look at Creatures or Enemies you won't find Drakes or Dragons despite the fact you'll come across them just as much as the other options in Messages. This is because they are not your enemy.
Regardless of Dragon attacks, you must be able to see how the Dragons are the peaceful ones.
Drakes arent even dragons they are their sort of relatives
Slevin Reviews Doesn't Kalameet attack you without provocation?
Juan Ruiz People think they're younger but from what I've read they're actually a different breed. Smaller and more aggressive. In Dark Souls the Drakes are typically enemies but Dragons are only enemies if they have a reason to be. Like the scaleless dragon.
blizzzard900 No shit he attacked you, your friend hit him with one of the biggest bows ever... he was just flying around.
I meant if you didn't get Gough to shoot him
My ideal ending is to had Solaire fight Gwyn with you. Survive the fight, then you leave him behind to absolve himself in the fire since he's always talking about finding his Sun. He buys your character a little more time to prepare for the what the Dark brings.
“Evil is Evil. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference. The degree is arbitary. The definition’s blurred. If I’m to choose between one evil and another… I’d rather not choose at all.”
"Gandalf of Libya, the art of war."
*20 pages later*
FUCK, i gotta pick the lesser evil. sorry renfri you crazy bitch!
@@aagh8714 lmao
Geralt!! Or Rivia
Bewteen choosing the lesser and the greater evil, I'd rather have a threesome with yennefer and triss
"Long ago, the people of Oolacile lived in harmony. Then, everything changed when the darkness attacked"
Michael Houston You mean when they dug up Manus and viciously tortured him and thus getting really messed up.
Avatar :D
+Michael Houston *Fire Nation
+Doktor Skeletor yes, just like kaathe told them to
El Castro Should've built a wall and made Oocacile great again.
Actually there is a canon 'good' ending.
From Software confirmed that if you save Solaire and have him summoned for the Gwyn fight, then walk away from the fire with Solaire still alive, then sunbro links the fire in your place.
Solaire's burning passion for light and the sun keep the first flame burning near indefinitely, while the Chosen Undead uses the power of the Dark Soul to cancel out the worst of the flame's brightness, stopping what would be the oppression of a new regime of gods. Just as death keeps life in check and renews it, so does the darkness mitigate and refresh this new and lasting light, and so Lordran is finally made whole again and the undead curse dissipates.
Though... In Lordran, the flow of time is distorted. The flow of time itself is convoluted; with heroes centuries old phasing in and out... And in another world, Solaire goes mad, and is slain. In another world, the Chosen Undead links the flame themselves, and the curse persists.
In another world, the linking of the fire causes souls to flourish anew, and the souls of lords find their new homes. In another world, another chosen undead awakens, and begins his pilgrimage, seeking larger and more powerful souls to undo his curse. In another world, he collects the souls of lords, and upon them he builds a great kingdom, as he tries to end his curse. ...And he falls. And another undead is chosen to link the flame in his place.
Welcome to Drangleic.
Where have they confirmed this "canon" good ending?
Then.... I guess I got the bad ending. Because I decided to ignore both serpents and dedicated the rest of eternity to caring for the fair lady ;w; I'm such a monster... I-I've surely saved her by now...
From Software... Where is Spidersis? I saved her. Please tell me where she is. I want to show her all the work I did. I made her sister's soul into a weapon with which to harvest humanity. I braved the humanity sprites in the abyss over and over for her. I have used what must be hundreds of red eye orbs harvesting humanity. When does she get better? ;w;
Where is the ending for those of us who choose to stay with our waifus?
You need only look to Invader: Kirk, Knight of Thorns.
This is your fate, chosen undead.
Darasilverdragon mhmm ;w;
beware! for the new kirk is a dexromancer who does the really annoying curved sword R1 spam and is decent at parrying!
Isn't there a way to get the fire keeper's soul and then use it to prevent hollowing? If so, would this not be perfect indefinite fuel for the first flame? Combine with Solair's timeline where he doesn't go mad and you have a double pact of theoretically infinite fire. Solair becomes the fire and can't go hollow so sun bro is pretty much and immortal god. Granted, I've never finished the game due to what seems to be fate conspiring IRL to prevent me from playing but despite that, the plan seems sound. The dark would forever be counter balanced by the pure soul of a fire keeper and the will of a sun god not to mention the efforts of what could possibly be his friend of the light.
I wanna say dark ending is the good ending cause it's the one I agree with more, but tbh, after a few new game cycles, the good ending is just hanging out at Firelink with the npcs or fighting other players eternally in Oolacile
What sealed my decision to just light the damned flame was the revelation of Kaathe's role in the brutal destruction of both New Londo and Oolacile. I still remember the first time I saw those piles of hundreds of hundreds of corpses in New Londo, once you drain the water. No way was I listening to or aiding anyone who had a hand in that. 🤷♂️
"The meaningless choices along the way"
*Mass Effect*
+Joker
We're kinda overdue to get over ME3.
And the last few choices really, _really_ matter.
+Beretta249 In really shitty way, i would be rather kicked in the balls for 100 times. Just saying...
haha haha haha ah ah ah no
... *3
+Beretta249
matter how?
yes, lets just stay with Priscilla, my waifu
I rather my DkS 2 waifu, the emerald herald
Doktor Skeletor it's a dream boy, and the doll's not fuckable
Kal Kuma Or is it?
Doktor Skeletor
doutorbin Loomanaty confirmed
After finishing the first game and third games, my friend sent me to check out your lore videos and you’ve done nothing short of an incredible job. I’m fully hooked❤
Did your friend tell you to skip 2? Bad friend
it'd be cool if in NG+, the game would save your character when you first kill Gwyn, so you could fight yourself. then again, too much parrying and Havel's.
But every time you talk to her she's gonna be like, "You don't belong here. Please go, the inhabitants are peaceful." It's gonna be awkward :/
The corruption at Oolacile wasn't just "darkness" though, it was Manus and The Abyss, not exactly the same thing.
+Jake Dubusker the abyss was the primitive form of the darkness, when humanity was thriving.
Dark is connected to Man, and also Humanity.
Well, it is clear that the Abyss is borm from Humanity, from the First Man.
Its not born from the humanity, per se. It might be the darker version of humanity, maybe?
Ghost Ranger Or simply it most "real" version.
Could be anything
“so instead of choosing an ending, just go and live with priscilla or something” wisest sentence of the century
I have a small theory that suggest that both Frampt and Karth wanted the Age of Dark to come, since both proclaim to serve the Dark Lord in the end. Frampt may have revealed himself first to give the our character all of these promises and persuades you to link the fire, so that when Karth tells you its a lie, you feel more compelled to let the fire fade and become the Dark Lord.
How about...instead of choosing an ending, I'll just take care of Quelaag's sister and be a good person.
Basically Kirk in a nutshell.
"If you aid them they decide that humans aren't bad afterall. If you sleight them, then they treat you with their built up resentment."
"AAAAAAAAAAGH! SO THIS IS TRUE HUMAN NATURE!!!!"
*_proceeds to beating you to a pulp_*
Nice
Wasn't expecting you to be here.
Nice video. I subscribed so I won't miss your content. Now im going to binge your videos.
The first Vaatividya video I ever watched that got me really into the community. Such a great video 😊
@Luis Martinex what part is he wrong?
just go live with dragon lady with scythe
How do you not know the universal waifu's name
priscilla is my waifu
Well according to The Scholar of First Sin, he said humans are actually creatures of darkness and we only have this form because the Gods of Light feared the darkness. So I think the serpent is telling the truth afterall.
+akiflyer Which one?
Stanley
Darkstalker Kaathe
akiflyer Oh. OK.
+akiflyer Hearing that makes me think that the humanity sprites down in the abyss are humans just without a physical form
maker0914
Well yes! Human... souls... All the "humanity" you get is from dark soul fragments. We're creatures of dark. Not necessarily evil... as the story shows you the real evil is the Light Gods.
Vaati I enjoy these videos greatly!
May the sun shine uppon you and grant thee 1 million souls/subscribers.
LONG MAY THE SUN SHINE!
Vati! I share your passion for
DARK SOULS. I'm re watching your series ,the whole thing. Thanks for making this m8. See you in the Abyss
The "Becoming the Darklord" ending won't end up in another Oolacile. Humans are born from the dark, but unwillingly adopted the light because of Gwyn's sacrifice. The light and the dark inside the humans struggle and end up destroying each other, so they become hollow. Letting the flame fade means that the light inside humanity dies, thus returning to their dark nature. Oolacile was like that because the humanity of Manus became wild, uncontrolable. If we can control all the Dark Soul we can be as powerful as Gwyn, we could be his oposite. That's what Kaathe is trying to do, make a true human that can embrace the hole Dark Soul, becoming as powerful as any of the Four Lords. Why does he want that is another tale.
And abyss and darkness are different from each other
+Fukuro - Pierce the Heavens The Oolacile situation is because of Manus going wild yes , but Kaathe instructs the people of Oolacile to make him go mad. Kaathe is not trying to make humans as powerfull as the lords or anything , he is manipulating you just like Frampt.
+Fukuro - Pierce the Heavens Could anyone be powerful enough to control it? There are so awful endings in fiction and reality alike where it all goes to shit when someone says "Yeah this will be so useful" followed by "No! I cant control it its too powerful" as they die horribly. That said im not sure how shit the world will be in the age of dark but supposedly dark souls 3 is going to be set on it. Maybe we'll learn about that part of history and make new meaning for how dark the dark age is?
+Kali Mah
Yeah. Despite being so interesting to make theories, I think that before we keep speculating we should let a few months for everyone to finish Dark Souls 3 (including myself). That way, after the information is complete we'll see how many answers we got.
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I don't think the dark end is the same as what was happening to Oolacile.
In Oolacile the abyss, not darkness, was spreading.
You see, the abyss is for the dark soul the same thing that the bed of chaos is for the fire/light soul
Manus, ruler of Oolacile is the Furtive Pygmy, him being "ancient man". Who was that? Why, the one who gave us all humanity. the Pygmy. The Pygmy bore the Dark Soul.
The Abyss was a corruption of humanity, consumed by Manus. It won't be so hard to imagine that the Age of Dark will lead to eventual corruption, too.
We already seen what happens when the Age of dark comes in Dark Souls 3.
So there goes the interesting debates which ending is better in this game lol
NinjapowerMS indeed. Thou shalt maketh Lordran whole once more.
Totole Hey I get to fuck bitches while I'm the Lord.
Why not :^)
Time to go to the Painted World of Ariamis to live with Priscilla, after taking Sif and Alvina with me. Maybe even the Stone Dragon.
I always saw the corruption of Oolicile as something unique to the Abyss, which is different from the dark, a perversion caused by greed and malice, and fueled by pain.
I always thought The Abyss was a corrupted form of the darkness and the reason people became corrupted by it was because there was too much of it being held in one small town.
So just go live with Priscilla. Hahaha
"By fighting against the inevitable, we carve meaning from meaninglessness."
Worth a shot. :P
It's hilarious that this video ends with "So, instead of choosing an ending, just go and live with Priscilla or something"--because that's exactly what happens at the end of Dark Souls 3. We make a painted world with the pigment of the Dark Soul, living in a kind, cold world separate from the cycle of fire and dark and will never rot.
I remember when I linked the fire, and with the music and the credits and all the thoughts going through my mind about the characters both friend and foe- I was overwhelmed by emotion and couldn't help but tear up. This game has made me feel more and stronger emotions than any other series; anger, happiness, sadness. It's a mastahpiece!
Both Kaathe and Frampt manipulate you for their own ends, whatever they are.
Yet both show up to serve the Chosen Undead in the Dark Ending, even though you did the opposite of what Frampt told you to do. Maybe Frampt was also trying to bring about the Dark Age, but in a much more subtle, patient way? Support for such a far-fetched notion: Frampt is asking us, an Undead human, to succeed Gwyn, a flipping GOD OF LIGHT, as a source for the First Flame. How long could we possibly burn? A few years? A decade? *Maybe* a century? Definitely not for nearly as long as Gwyn burned. He may be trying to about the Dark Age in a way that the gods won't punish him for ("Well, Gwyndolin/whomever, I did exactly as you and Gwyn wanted. I sent an Undead to replace him as fuel for the First Flame, and it still died out. Maybe the Age of Fire was meant to end all along..."). And maybe Frampt leaves if you side with Kaathe because he still fears the wrath of the gods; though it's in its dying days, the Age of Fire is still going on, and (at least, when you are first taken to Firelink Altar) the Lord Soul bearers are still around and relatively loyal to Gwyn (Well, maybe Nito is. Izalith and Seath are not really in a state of mind to process "loyalty".). And if you go ahead and link the Flame... well, Frampt implies (he may be lying here, but for now we will assume he isn't) that you're the only Undead in almost a millennium to have come this far, so it's not likely that it will happen again before you burn out and the Dark Age comes along. Either way, the Fire fades and only Dark remains...
You all can have the exiled half-dragon maiden. I'm going to go be Quelana's friend. Poor witch needs a hug...
just wondering how a fcking dragon would hit a human pussy
just wondering how a fcking dragon would hit a human pussy
what the fuck
my dick is confused
+LanPodder better fuck a half spider then
I always go with Dark ending cuz it has better music, lol
same
TRUEEEE
Well its the light and dark what make hollows the abyss is not dark and light and hollow he is a begining but i prefer to be a abyssal human with no dark and light conflict and no mind and soul breakdown what is the hollow abyss is just a nature form to prevent this vicious cycle that is light the good and dark the dumber poor soul better than be a villian i am human abyssal with no light that dark uses the knowledge of light to corruption of the abyss and light the goodness and abyss life with no dark and light
plin plin plon
“Go live with Priscilla or something” That is eerily similar to how dark souls actually ends, with a painted world being created by a girl who looks a little bit like Priscilla
Linking the flame is a pretty good metaphor for the human struggle. Constant battle to survive, and against evil, darkness, etc. Our progressed is paved with the bones of our fore fathers. Sure it's grim to be the one sacrificing yourself, but you're giving a whole new generation of life to exist, good or bad. It beats nothing.
Only this ending is just an extension of the meaningless cycle. This ending only leads to the re-devastation of entire continents in a meaningless cycle that is contrary to the natural path.
Dark Souls -> Light Ending -> Age of Fire continues -> Dark Souls 2
Dark Souls -> Dark Ending -> Age of the Dark starts -> Bloodborne
not bad
Thank you. It's a theory I developed after noticing the similarities in look shared by the Abyss-warped humans of Oolacile in Dark Souls and the Great Ones in Bloodborne, the former being the newborn form of the latter. Also, given that the Abyss has no bonfire network of its own, it's very likely that its influence couldn't spread all over the globe equally, meaning the Bloodborne humans could be the descendants of the Dark Souls ones that lived the farthest from Lordran at the time the First Flame died out.
i havent finished dark souls so i havent visited oolacile yet, but i have completed bloodbourne, so i will compare them, when i will finish dark souls
Remember it's not an exact resemblance, it's more like comparing a homemade halloween costume to a real monster.
It's a good idea but I always thought its more like:
Dark Souls -> Light Ending -> Age of Fire continues -> several cycles later -> Dark Souls 2
*OR*
Dark Souls -> Dark Ending -> Age of the Dark starts -> someone lights it up again -> several cycles later -> Dark Souls 2
*THEN*
Dark Souls 2 -> King Ending -> Age of Fire continues -> several cycles later -> Dark Souls 3
Dark Souls 2 -> Walk away Ending -> Age of the Dark starts -> several cycles later -> Dark Souls 3
*AND IF* Bloodborne is in the same universe but different time period ( i mean, Chester must have come from somewhere, right?) then it takes place manymanymanymany.... cycles after DS3.
I think that one of the main ideas in DS universe this crushing realisation of utter pointlessness of any struggle, since everything is destined to repeat, and you can either keep the current age running a little more, or you can start the next one. It doesn't matter since its a cycle anyway.
Priscilla ending is best ending.
Great narrative and a balanced look on what is really a deep game. Cheers.
I just realized you used the Kerbal Space Program "hanging out at the space center" background music. Awesome choice!
Love that ending. Living with Priscilla don't sound bad XD Place looks cold though.
But shes so fluffy! Just cuddle and stay warm forever and ever xD
Sento Yes.
While you're all arguing, I'm going to live with Priscilla and make many many 1/4 dragon babies.
best option, win-win situation for sure
priscilla, the best girl in vidya game industry
TEOPETUK89 instead of linking the fire. People will be wanting to 'Link' Priscilla.
Link with gwinevere instead
You all stay with your lowly waifus, Gwyndolin is mine! Link with Gwyndolin
Great video bro!
Wow, brilliant explanation. Thank you very much
I would still say the Dark Lord ending is the best choice. Even if you didn't have Solaire to help you and believe that he links the fire in your place, realizing the power of the Dark soul is far better (to me) than prolonging a useless Age of Fire again.
On another note, anyone notice the difference in "the Dark" and "the Abyss?" This difference can't be a fault in translation, similar to how the Old Chaos is different from Fire. It seems just like how the Witch created a perverse unnatural fire from her soul, Oolacile created a twisted and consuming void of the Dark by torturing Manus.
Matthew Frye I always figured that since chaos is the corruption of fire, the abyss is the corruption of dark.
The Age of Fire involves keeping the world alive, useless things like that.
+cosimone64 Using the power of the Dark
Yeah I was going to mention this. The Abyss is very clearly a distinct entity from the Dark, since it started with Manus and the Dark existed before that. If anything, the Dark would probably be combating the Abyss as the Light did.
@@timothywilliams594 ik this was made five years ago but every time the age of fire is prolonged it makes everything worse and worse. At least with a new dark age there could be a hard reset to the age of fire.
I think that letting the flame die even though it isn't exactly good, is possibly the only ending that grants a measure of hope. Allowing yourself to be consumed by the flame just seems to be a way to justify ng+ while ushering in an age of man is a bit more ambiguous and may or may not be a decision that actually spells doom for mankind. On a side note, humanity as we know it in the real world sprung from millennia of conflict, plague and darkness so perhaps the "bad" ended is in a sense giving a reference to that by saying that the darkness is inevitable but like a forest after it burns new life will eventually sprout from it's ashes. Idk, just a thought.
+HumanOddity69 Dark Souls II has the same endings with this theme a little more clear in its delivery. The player either renews the Age of Fire (which implies the first protagonist canonically did not), or walk away from the flame -- from the comfort of certainty at the cost of inevitable ruin promised by the gods -- and choose for the world a path unknown.
+Knight Artorias The Abysswalker the endings don't matter. if you won't light the fire then some other undead will. the ONLY ending that truly matters is walking away from the throne of want. you refuse both dark and light and try to find another path
+HumanOddity69 Good thought. The 'Light' ending does justifies the NG+, as you're reborn as a new Undead.
+Some Random Sun Bro You can do that as well? That is, not choose either side, and finish the game.
Some Random Sun Bro Idk why it took two months for me to get notified about this comment but it has me intrigued to say the least. Are you saying that Dark Souls has a third ending? I was rocking NG+8 with two different characters back in the day and I never received even the slightest hint that a third outcome was even possible. Then again, I was an evil bastard in DS1 and I never ventured the path of the sun bro so it's more than possible that I missed the option completely. Please explain, the length of the comment doesn't matter, I just want the whole story.
Aw boyo it's old Vatya video vids for my recommendations!
Was initially sad after accidentally picking the Dark Ending on my first playthrough cuz I thought it was the "Bad Ending", but now realising that it doesn't really matter, I feel better about it lol
So, basically, the world is fucked.
Dark Souls in a nutshell.
There is only one thing to do........... WE MUST KILL THE DARK AND THE LIGHT.
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"so instead of choosing an ending go live with Priscilla or something " THIS
id take Quelaan the fair lady with me to the painted world of Ariamas
Quelaan and Priscilla can become friends ...maybe...everyone needs a friend in this dark wretched place
one thing i wish you touch upon more is the part w the oolaciel and why would the dark really hurt humans ?
The primordial serpents where inspired from the Ouroboros snake from ancient Egypt !!!
Living with Priscilla.. while undeads with giant hearts for heads try to burn you alive and crows with tall human bodies try to eat you. She even called the place as peaceful.. Maybe it's referencing how everyone interprets a painting in their own way, or Priscilla is mad just like everyone else.
And no, I don't know her lore at the moment.
It's most likely due to the fact that those beings treat her as one of them, as a part of the painting, like them. You are an intruder, something not from the painting, so they wanna shank you because of built up resentment from being sealed. Priscilla just gave you a chance to leave.
Gogito4
It seems kinda strange that she says that after you have killed all those creatures, gotten yourself through all that trouble just to hear that she just wants you to leave and tells you how. Why didn't she get you out of there right away? She knew you were there judging by what she is saying, so why did she do nothing? Is it due to the resentment as well? She's acting so illogically.
Arexion5293 She knew you were there? How? From our PoV she never left her tower. For all we know, she just saw you waltz in there and took her own actions.
Gogito4
Huh, maybe I remembered her dialogue wrong. Even then the entire place is quite questionable. Still.. I just wanted her scythe, so I killed her. And yet ironically I'm going to link the fire even if Gwyndolin is dead and the illusion of sun has vanished from Anor Londo. I'm doing as these desperate beings want me to do, these creatures living in denial. Only difference is that none of them will be there to lead the age of fire, since they don't deserve it. They had their chance and they messed up, it's someone else's turn to rule the age of fire.
Or that's how I see it.
Arexion5293 Well, guess what, that probably only makes Gwynevere come back and love the hell out of the new Anor Londo. So you aren't doing what you set out to do at all.
When I found out what the endings really were, I felt like some patsy who just ended up doing what some serpent wanted, played like a violin. Frampt and Kaathe need to come back in Dark Souls 2, and we better be able to either kill them or tell them to fuck off and do what we want
Not sure thats gunna happen but im with ya
Hello Vaati from the past. I come from the future to tell you how much the Vaati in my time has grown. Keep up the good work.
I have something to say the wyvern that you can fight in arch dragon peak(not the boss)if you don’t run it won’t attack you
Funny thing is when I was proceeding to defeating Lord Gwyn, I skipped past the Black knights who were guarding the white light. After I defeated Lord Gwyn. I thought, before I light the fire. I should go and kill those remaining Black knights. I was unaware that if you leave the place, you get the Dark Lord ending. So, I accidently chose the Dark Lord ending and I feel happy about it, HAHA!
Suleman Saleem wow, ur so lucky!
100th like,welcome to the Dark Lord club my friend!
Dark Souls leaves me with the same emotion I felt after finishing the Golden Age Arc of Berserk, hopelessness. I felt empty when I approached these endings and thats what made them so good because both Berserk and Dark Souls push the hopelessness feeling throughout the whole game/manga and their endings fit so well. Also these endings left me respecting the art and wanting more from them, truly amazing pieces of work.
That final conclusion, made me laugh hard. TY
I come to rewatch these videos since i recently finished the remastered dk 1. I found it wa very interesting you actually accidentally described the true ending of the entire series: living with Priscilla. Truly it was just a joke by the time you made the video, though, it was revealed the final destination of the dark soul is to be painted as a new world by Arya. We indeed live with “Priscilla” after all!
Imo. the Abyss isn't Dark, its the complete absence of Light or Dark. The Abyss was caused by he corruption of the Light soul by Gwyn splitting it the way he did for selfish reasons; because he feared the Dark Lord who would one day kill him and end his age of Fire. Manus is the personification of that corruption and fear that Gwyn held. So, again imo, ushering in the age of man with the "Dark" ending wouldn't cause another Oolacile, since the Dark soul did not create the abyss or the creatures that existed as a result.
But the complete absence of Light or Dark is what the world was in the beginning, when the everlasting dragons ruled. Nothing like the Abyss. Elizabeth even says that Artorias was consumed by Dark since, as an adherent of Gwyn and the Light, he had not a trace of Dark in him.
The Abyss first came about when the Four Kings (humans) succumbed to the lust for power, much in the same vein as the Dark Lord ending. The pattern repeats in Oolacile, where Manus (the first human, and creator of humanity by means of splitting the Dark Soul) imposes a reign of Dark through humanity and thereby spreads the Abyss once more. Even the corrupted Artorias's Abyss Greatsword scales with humanity.
When humanity embraces the Dark, the Abyss inevitably ensues.
GodzillaGuy92 this is why I love the writing in this game because you can talk about it for hours.
I always thought of the everlasting dragons as a perfect balance between light and dark (with no decay or death but no progress or life) and the first flame upset that balance by concentrating the power of light, dark, life and death into individuals who could be corrupted and who could die.
I may be wrong and again this is just how I read it, but Elizabeth said Artorias failed because he didn't have any Dark in him; but she never said he fell to Dark. Its as if being both Light and Dark protects you somehow.
I'm also not convinced that Manus is the pygmy, though a lot of my friends are convinced that he is.
chiip90 As far as Elizabeth goes, the exact quote is "Knight Artorias came to stop this, but such a hero has nary a murmur of Dark. Without doubt he will be swallowed by the Abyss, overcome by its utter blackness. Indeed, the Abyss may be unstoppable."
So in short, Abyss="utter blackness"=Dark, and even if Manus isn't the Furtive Pygmy himself, he's still a human who begat the Abyss by means of humanity embracing the Dark. Humanity is necessary for the Abyss to occur, which is why the Chosen Undead, as a human containing both Light and Dark, can't simply be corrupted as Artorias was.
Elizabeth's last line is perhaps the most telling. As is discussed in this video, the advent of the Age of Dark is inevitable, whether the Chosen Undead chooses to postpone it or bring it about himself. Elizabeth expresses the same sentiment about the Abyss (which, again, is characterized as pure darkness). Kaathe, who wants the Age of Dark to begin, even dwells in the Abyss. The Age of Dark _is_ the spread of the Abyss over the entire world.
GodzillaGuy92 Its about human nature. Too much dark and you become Manus seeking to gain power without a care for anyone or anything else. But an absence of dark and you become Gwyn, desperately trying to hold on to power at the cost of everything he once held dear.
I still don't believe the Abyss is inherently Dark as it seems to corrupt individuals from both ends of the spectrum.
So excited for the new game, maybe we'll learn more.
chiip90 something we should pay attention to is the dark magic if you look at pursuers or they seem to be the same material as both the spells manus cast and the dark magic does hurt humans, second I believe without a doubt manus is the furtive pygmy, manus the name is the irish form of magnus which means "great" the name Magnus became popular in Scandinavia after the time of the 11th-century Norwegian king Magnus I, who was said to have been named after Charlemagne is From Old French Charles le Magne meaning "CHARLES the Great". and Charles means "man" or possibly but probably not "army/warrior" so the end result is "great man" not convinced?
manus= man us
Tarkus ending, the world explodes from his sheer awesomeness, the end.
I think lore wise in ds1 and ds2 the fire gets linked by the player and in ds3 i think the unkindled ashen one lets the flame fade leading to bloodborne from a lore standpoint
Kinda interesting to go back to old videos like this before we knew all we do now