Gurdjieff talk on Energy & Sleep 1/30/1923

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    0:00 Gurdjieff on Energy 1/30/1923 Prieure
    1:03 large muscles consume less energy
    2:33 if a man suffers from chronic tension
    3:30 we cannot get more energy
    4:48 the only way out - economize the energy we have
    5:29 a man´s sleep is nothing else than interrupted connections between centers
    6:23 Memory, attention, observation is nothing more than observation of one center by another
    6:46 deep sleep comes when the connections between centers are broken
    7:40 there are different degrees between our waking state and sleep
    8:49 Deep states of sleep are the same for all, but intermediate degrees are often subjective
    10:07 the purpose of sleep is achieved only when all the connections between the centers are broken
    10:25 Deep sleep is a state when we have no dreams or sensations
    11:01 if the machine is in good order, it needs very little time to manufacture that quantity of matter for which sleep is intended
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Komentáře • 140

  • @roadblockk3372
    @roadblockk3372 Před 2 lety +22

    Finally I got what I want.....😘🙏One of the most precious knowledge....Thank u from bottom of my heart....Plz keep sharing these type of videos.

    • @amw1london990
      @amw1london990 Před 9 měsíci

      See the film Gurdjieff in Armenia for his teaching and original footage of the Gurdjieff movements:
      czcams.com/video/6eXZScF26Dc/video.htmlsi=6RHDwfm2ApwQYZ-M

  • @carenkurdjinian5413
    @carenkurdjinian5413 Před měsícem +1

    Such a Great Interpretation……..🌞

  • @mysticbubbles123
    @mysticbubbles123 Před 3 lety

    Love it!!!😍

  • @fabianfase7709
    @fabianfase7709 Před 4 lety +19

    One of the most powerful statements ever.

  • @rob8109
    @rob8109 Před rokem

    Thank you

  • @777impresso
    @777impresso Před 2 lety +6

    Thank you! Love from Ukraine

  • @kannans5253
    @kannans5253 Před 2 měsíci

    Very precious ❤❤❤

  • @darshanpandya30
    @darshanpandya30 Před 3 lety +7

    grateful to U for sharing this conversation 🙏😇

    • @flushhh4543
      @flushhh4543 Před 3 lety +1

      How come you searching about gurdjieff?

    • @SharkFishSF
      @SharkFishSF Před 2 lety

      @@flushhh4543 I came to know him 8 years ago when I liked his quote in twitter by a fan I believe. I forgot about it, but in the last 3 years I started listening to Nithyananda he talked about him and his methods being intense about enlightenment.

    • @ALLiiiiiiJun
      @ALLiiiiiiJun Před rokem

      @@SharkFishSF
      And Could You Reach To The Self_Awareness ?

    • @SharkFishSF
      @SharkFishSF Před rokem

      @@ALLiiiiiiJun what do you by self awareness?

    • @SharkFishSF
      @SharkFishSF Před rokem

      @@ALLiiiiiiJun no

  • @Viv8ldi
    @Viv8ldi Před rokem +5

    Memo: when u sleep, sleep in such a way that the whole of you sleep

  • @Viv8ldi
    @Viv8ldi Před rokem

    Memo: associations are the centers life

  • @HB-ot9fd
    @HB-ot9fd Před rokem +3

    What book is this from? Is there a book for his talks/lectures. I have read all the books from Ouspensky.

    • @BostonbredNE
      @BostonbredNE Před měsícem

      The best book to give you an overlook of his entire system is in search of the miraculous by one of his students PD Ouspenski

  • @999titu
    @999titu Před 3 lety +2

    Wow

    • @flushhh4543
      @flushhh4543 Před 3 lety

      How did you come to know about gurdjieff

    • @999titu
      @999titu Před 3 lety +1

      @@flushhh4543 , from a book by Osho the great.

    • @flushhh4543
      @flushhh4543 Před 3 lety

      @@999titu okay

  • @nancyrode9781
    @nancyrode9781 Před 2 lety

    🙋💛🙏

  • @gurug9797
    @gurug9797 Před 3 lety

    Thumbnail is Bill Bailey

  • @Bavubuka
    @Bavubuka Před 2 lety +6

    Is there a link to the excercises he mentioned? 🙏

    • @itskersitime5080
      @itskersitime5080 Před 2 lety +3

      This is an excerpt from in “search of the miraculous” by PD Ouspensky, Chapter 8. The book is amazing, has a ton of these exercises & techniques and is a foundation of Gurdjieffs teachings (the same woman reads the book on CZcams, you can find it free online or buy a cheap copy). It’s a difficult text to interpret, but hit google and look for a local Gurdjieff group in your area to get more info and insight into his philosophy and what it means. Feel free to reach out with any questions 👍🏿

    • @999repliesfrom4
      @999repliesfrom4 Před 2 lety +2

      @@itskersitime5080 pls share link

    • @999repliesfrom4
      @999repliesfrom4 Před 2 lety +6

      @@itskersitime5080 i experience when I do exercise I get more energy and remain energetic

    • @YashSingh-mr9dz
      @YashSingh-mr9dz Před 2 lety +1

      czcams.com/play/PLacN4nAmMe4Ipys7WEbX4MQRh2C5GpBLX.html

    • @YashSingh-mr9dz
      @YashSingh-mr9dz Před 2 lety +1

      @@999repliesfrom4 👆

  • @DrakeFang1
    @DrakeFang1 Před 2 lety +4

    What are these exercises he speaks of at the end? I'm curious to know.

    • @user-nr7jg1io6u
      @user-nr7jg1io6u Před 2 lety +1

      IF I FIND I GOT YOU

    • @DrakeFang1
      @DrakeFang1 Před 2 lety

      @@user-nr7jg1io6u thanks!!

    • @MastersofWisdom
      @MastersofWisdom  Před rokem +2

      muscle relaxation exercises - this is taught in Gurdjieff Work groups

    • @chickenlover657
      @chickenlover657 Před 7 měsíci

      @@MastersofWisdom So describe one.

    • @MastersofWisdom
      @MastersofWisdom  Před 7 měsíci

      @@chickenlover657 check J.G. Bennett´s book "Transformation", there you will find 2 versions of G´s muscle relaxation exercise.

  • @etunimisukunimi5890
    @etunimisukunimi5890 Před 4 lety +19

    Anyone know what the exercises to reduce unnecessary tension are that are mentioned in the end?

    • @cgfreeandeasy
      @cgfreeandeasy Před 4 lety +5

      Dont know, what he means or says. But there is a other method to fall in sleep for night:
      take sufficient dopamin-inhibitor
      Otherwise we know many about those Exercices for the consciousness-states and full body-States:
      Meditate practice to slow down the consciousness to an state, wherein nothing more is then sense or to feel you self and the environment. No time, no space, no appropriation - only sense in time - not over time onto - the art of that is, to hold up the moment and did not let end this consciousness-stream, which is the moment self.
      Some of the best thought in this stream is the Alignment to the universe out there - but not things on earth (only water) - do not substantiate something - let all flow, but in one stream and do not think about it. feel it

    • @sarmoun706
      @sarmoun706 Před 4 lety +10

      a muscle relaxation exercise - you can find one described in J.G. Bennett´s book "Transformation" - it is taught in Gurdjieff groups as a preparation for other exercises

    • @cgfreeandeasy
      @cgfreeandeasy Před 4 lety +10

      Or a good cannabis-binge....intoxication.
      By that, it can both happend:
      acutely, strong tension or...when it is the good turn: fantastic relaxation - untill full loose of Ego and appropriation - it is a thing of your courage, how far you can go with this manipulation tro let go all egos and appropriation. And a thing of the warmth and security of your immediate environment.
      In Cannabis-binge, yóu can explore the possibility of your individual bandwidth: how wide is the difference between your two extremes. And how you can manipulate it. Because under cannabis-intoxication, you can easier manipulate yourself in the both direction: to relaxation and to the strong tension.

    • @SocietyOfTheSpectacl
      @SocietyOfTheSpectacl Před 4 lety +3

      A lot of unnecessary tension is caused by a lack of excercise. all 3 centres need to be balanced. you will find more here,
      archive.org/stream/TheTheoryOfCelestialInfluence/The%20Theory%20of%20Celestial%20Influence_djvu.txt

    • @matthewbellis8620
      @matthewbellis8620 Před 3 lety +3

      Perhaps if you are very restless then conventional meditation is of little benefit currently, try osho dynamic meditation.. it is cathartic and you will be able to attain to samadhi if you have exerted yourself prior, failing that do circuit training or some hard physical training to release the daily built up tension... I also used holosync binural beats 🎧 in my early days really helped.

  • @jiyujizai
    @jiyujizai Před 2 lety

    🥀🌱💛😀

  • @MastersofWisdom
    @MastersofWisdom  Před 4 lety +10

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  • @nancyrode9781
    @nancyrode9781 Před 2 lety +2

    👁👁 witness

  • @jiyujizai
    @jiyujizai Před 2 lety

    🌸🌱💙🤔

  • @Viv8ldi
    @Viv8ldi Před rokem

    Memo: practise „energy-economy“

  • @Dedicated_.1
    @Dedicated_.1 Před měsícem

    This is read in such a monotone straight fashion that it’s so easy to lose focus. Intonation, dynamics, speed needed.

  • @maximilianbohme1556
    @maximilianbohme1556 Před rokem

    Hello

  • @cgfreeandeasy
    @cgfreeandeasy Před 4 lety

    Since the EEG-measurmend we can measure the Sleep- or wake-State precisly, or not?
    If there are humans, they walk in fúll-sleep-Mode? Ok, there are sleepwalker. But they are special cases.
    If i measure a eminently dement person, would i measure a sleeping Human?

    • @SocietyOfTheSpectacl
      @SocietyOfTheSpectacl Před 4 lety

      try Maurice Bucke for an interesting view on the evolution of states of conciousness, His work was recommended by ouspensky,
      www.sacred-texts.com/eso/cc/index.htm

    • @SuperAmazingAnt
      @SuperAmazingAnt Před 2 lety

      wtf you are even asking.

    • @nocapitals9833
      @nocapitals9833 Před 2 lety

      @@SuperAmazingAnt 🤣

  • @lorenapasquetti8627
    @lorenapasquetti8627 Před 2 lety

    Niente sottotitoli in italiano? Non conosco l'inglese...

  • @Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr
    @Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr Před 3 lety +25

    Energy is channeled by prayers and declaration to God, then you live how you want in God. Energy declared in God changes reality.

    • @Viv8ldi
      @Viv8ldi Před 2 lety +4

      Can you proof that God exists? Are you familiar with the forth way?

    • @Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr
      @Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr Před 2 lety

      @@Viv8ldi I am familiar with all religion inclusive of all new age deception. The self cannot influence uncontrolled events that fall under the adversary’s rule at which point necessitate God’s intervention. inner work can only be complete by the creator of self, who is Jesus Christ. All progress has its foundation in its omnipresent master Jesus Christ. No religion can come close to His works. All nations that succumb to the rule of the anti-Christ through various entities fail. Even those nations founded on Christ as the most successful America are victim to the corruption of the adversary once portals are opened in the adversary’s. Hell to all religion.

    • @Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr
      @Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr Před 2 lety +4

      @@Viv8ldi yes God exists the proof is in man’s ability to believe of his existence and to distinguish His works from that of his adversary. For as the Jews saw they STILL did not believe and most still don’t even suffer. Blessed are those who have believed yet not seen.

    • @Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr
      @Telegrm-t_OnlyPwr Před 2 lety +8

      There is ONLY ONE WAY. Only One God has ever said that He is the way the truth and the life. A creation cannot exist without its creator.

    • @NeuzaOnofrio
      @NeuzaOnofrio Před 2 lety

      I would like to know only one thing: all these people that already died waiting on Him, what happened? They put all their effort on Him to be protected, they died who knows how, and then what? 🤔

  • @duaaabdullah8179
    @duaaabdullah8179 Před 5 měsíci

    لا إله إلا الله، محمدا رسول الله
    كل شيء في الكون يدل على وجوده بداية من خلقك، تفكر وتأمل في نفسك وفي كل ماحولك تصل لحقيقة أنه هناك إله واحد

  • @hardeepkaur2753
    @hardeepkaur2753 Před 3 lety

    Respect and honours human be humanity journey souls journey honour Master mind global prayers world heaven on earth global prayers

  • @Dedicated_.1
    @Dedicated_.1 Před měsícem

    I find these videos frustrating, feels like he says a lot without really explaining much practically. Any advice on how to reapproach these ideas ?

  • @mariajolantapiskorowska3152
    @mariajolantapiskorowska3152 Před 3 měsíci

    Wiedza zaprzedaje 100 lat

  • @roadblockk3372
    @roadblockk3372 Před rokem +1

    Book name ???plz

    • @MastersofWisdom
      @MastersofWisdom  Před rokem +2

      Gurdjieff - Views from the Real World

    • @roadblockk3372
      @roadblockk3372 Před rokem

      @@MastersofWisdom Thanks a lot!! Can you tell me where I get this book?

    • @MastersofWisdom
      @MastersofWisdom  Před rokem +1

      @@roadblockk3372 you can find the Ebook online for free - the full title is VIEWS FROM THE REAL WORLD, EARLY TALKS OF GURDJIEFF - full Audiobook is here czcams.com/video/mzAwh8pE4w0/video.html

    • @MastersofWisdom
      @MastersofWisdom  Před rokem +1

      @@roadblockk3372 another published version with more content is titled: Gurdjieff's Early Talks 1914-1931: In Moscow, St. Petersburg, Essentuki, Tiflis, Constantinople, Berlin, Paris, London, Fontainebleau, New York, and Chicago

    • @roadblockk3372
      @roadblockk3372 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@MastersofWisdomThanks...!❤

  • @stevebb2915
    @stevebb2915 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Grateful for the vid, but reading on gurdjieff, he never seems to explain "how" to actually do anything. Techniques to help is wake up. granted I havent done a massively deep dive.

    • @yungkaty9862
      @yungkaty9862 Před 3 měsíci +1

      He puts the problems in front of us, he asks all to figure out on our own how to fix these problems, for his way of fixing his problems will not work for you and me, just as my way to solve my problems will not work for you.
      Simply we must awaken ourselves, by ourselves. Gurdjieff tells us how to find our problems, not how to fix them, purposefully.
      Thats why his ideas are important, but why they arent main stream, youre not handed the answer, you have to find the answer on your own.

    • @stevebb2915
      @stevebb2915 Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@yungkaty9862 sounds like moving round in circles then tbh, i'd rather something more direct and pro active. i KNOW my problems. I'd rather someone help me overcome them with some basic direction at least. if he leaves you to it, whats the point of studying his work in the first place?

    • @Dedicated_.1
      @Dedicated_.1 Před měsícem +1

      completely agree. I hate responses like the one he gave you. It’s just classic justifying things that are issues.

  • @rafangpi
    @rafangpi Před 3 lety +2

    people have two connections others have seven... what the fuck is he talking about.....

    • @PM_____
      @PM_____ Před 2 lety

      lmao

    • @AstroLuck23
      @AstroLuck23 Před 2 lety +2

      Chakras ...you are asleep. now you will wake up from the slumber of your consciousness.

    • @gratefulkm
      @gratefulkm Před rokem

      Able and Cain, Ganesh and Murugun,, Ying and Yang
      You will notice that only one of the stories , does one kill the other ,
      what that means is there are a complete load of total deluded looneys out there, that are pretending the lower brain does not exist !!!
      Utter insanity

    • @pomegranateorange7450
      @pomegranateorange7450 Před rokem

      @@AstroLuck23 i have 4

    • @MastersofWisdom
      @MastersofWisdom  Před rokem +2

      the different centers of man - 3 centers - 5 centers - 7 centers - read Ousepensky "In Search of the Miraculous" for clarification

  • @maximilianbohme1556
    @maximilianbohme1556 Před rokem

    Fortnite 😊