Roasting YOUR Doctor Who Fan Theories!
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Doctor Who fans love to create fan theories about anything and everything. Since I've been making a lot more theory-based content recently, I thought I'd check out some of YOURS!
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I was considering joining, as I have seen a few of your videos, but then I saw this one and your opinion of River makes me believe that your understanding of the Doctor and mine are not compatible. The River Song saga was among my favorite, I thought it was a beautiful love story where their love scale for each other depended on when in their shared time line they were meeting. And yes obviously the 12th doctor loved her more obviously because it was the only time they met up at the same point in time with only one Spoiler left, and that was River's journey to the Library. Brilliant from the Library to the Husbands of River Song. So I will say good bye to your channel and seek who news and commentary on the Doctor elsewhere
My theory for the episode Rose is that the reason why the 9th Doctor is in all those historical pictures is because he's trying to see how much Earth's history has been affected by the Last Great Time War. This is a Doctor right off the heels of the time-bending, almost reality-breaking conflict. Plus maybe the Time War explains in-universe all those JFK conspiracy theories
I really like this theory and I think it fits in really well. I doubt the Doctor would be mentally well enough to just go on adventures, so his appearances here being him observing affects from the time war makes a lot of sense!
My personal headcanon is that the reason the first doctor’s TARDIS exterior keeps changing its appearance slightly throughout his era is that the chameleon circuit is trying and failing to fix itself after getting stuck in An Unearthly Child.
I think this should also continue to all exterior alterations, as it can be seen as the chameleon circuit failing to preserve its exterior exactly, or perhaps its trying to change to a different police box style / type (as the police box the TARDIS was based on is one of many police box styles.)
I also think that after a while the TARDIS just grew to like the shape (as did the doctor) so could change and update itself because even with a fixed circuit (like in the 6th dr’s era) they would still prefer a blue box
You’ve done an impressive job thinking of videos before you start series 8
My head cannon is that the woman at the end of Survival who sees the 7th doctor pop in after his battle with the master is a young Jackie Tyler. It doesn’t effect anything as the woman was oblivious to the events that had transpired and the encounter was so brief to a point where the Doctor wouldn’t even realize he met Jackie before. The reason I believe it is just because it’s a fun thought
She is the same actress I believe
Just went in search of this moment, and yeah, sure. Did the episode take place in the 90s? Makes sense.
Yeah, that's a cool way to link the end of the classic series with the start of the revival series!
@@bigredjanie However they have never acknowledged it on screen
@@davidbrowne3761 ...yes, I know. It's a fan theory after all.
A few of my headcanons:
-Dimensions in Time was a dream that the Seventh Doctor had
-Jackie Tyler appeared in Survival as the woman who the Seventh Doctor meets after defeating the Master
-Susan died during the Time War, but not before properly meeting the First Doctor again to say goodbye. The First Doctor was there to help save Gallifrey during the events of Day of the Doctor and Ten and Eleven encouraged him to go and say goodbye to Susan
-After The Fugitive Doctor, the Doctor's timeline was completely reset, therefore the Hartnell/Hurndall/Bradley Doctor is still the very first incarnation
-River Song was briefly in the Time War as we know she has knowledge of the War Doctor, however, the Eleventh Doctor pulled her out of there and got really mad at her for visiting that part of his timeline
Dimensions in Time is the fever dream the 7th Doctor has during his regeneration into 8. That's why he has amnesia
@@redjirachi1 Explains also why he was shaking his head like crazy, as if he was having a nightmare.
I still really like Peter Cushing's own theory about his doctor, where he's a future incarnation who's had his memories removed and physiognomy altered by the Toymaker and is forced to relive several of his previous adventures
You probably just spoiled the 60th plot line. Lol.
I heard a theory that Doctor Who and the Daleks is a fictional retelling of the Doctor's adventures, maybe by the Doctor or UNIT to make people think their adventures aren't real. Like a vampire story where Bram Stoker wrote Dracula because he's a vampire who wanted people to believe they're only fictional
Here are some of my personal theories:
-After their final defeat by The 2nd Doctor the Daleks began changing their time line to become the dominant species: basically their defeat in their last black/white story (evil of the daleks I think?) seems like a pretty definative and poetic end since the show was going to be retiring the daleks after that story (at least for a bit). So what if that truly was the end so we stopped seeing them but then a group of survivors began altering their own time line to survive and when they finally discovered a timeline where they were dominant The Time Lords intervined causing Genesis of the Daleks and The Time War as a whole.
-No More Mondas: Basically there were so few true mondasian cybermen left after their planet's destruction, many defeats, and the cyber wars that all the cyber we see now are entirely made from coverted humans and other species with no origial mondas cybermen left except for the colony ship.
-The Shalka Doctor is from a timeline where Gallifrey was really destroyed: this is what would have happened without the future doctors and clara's intervention and was split from the main timeline because of it. Where our 9th Doctor regenerated from a war doctor who just saved gallifrey and was full of hope and joy when he regenerated the Shalka doctor regenerated from a war doctor full of sorrow and regret from actually destroying Gallifrey giving us an even darker, mornful, and more detatched doctor than our 9th. Someone so full of regret that he reconstucts his old friend as an android just to bring back a bit of what was lost where some small part of our 9th knew Gallifrey was still out there keeping him just that closer to the light
-Shasha's Master imediately follows Sims: Not sure how much of this is my own theory or just general fan theory but after seeing what he becomes I The Doctor Falls we get a Master who hates seeing what he will one day become giving us a Master so full of self-loathing, hate, misogany, and everything else even regerating into The Doctor just to prevent himself from becoming Missy. Missy says Sims will regenate into her, but didn't mention it'll be "the long way around"
-The Doctor Changed how they measure their age: basically the Doctor was origanlly measuring his age off of Gallifreyian years pre-time war and started using Earth years post-time war cause Gallifrey wasn't around anymore and you can't measure yourself against a clock that doesn't exist plus Earth being their second home, then true home, and only home they have left post-time war also fits.
-The Master never destroyed Gallifrey: The Master already found Gallifrey abandoned and the capital in ruin and used the graves of The Time War to build The Cyber Masters. What happened to the Time Lords and why they left Gallifrey is still unknown. Less of a "theory theory" but more so the general dirrection I hope a future show runner takes The Time Lord story line.
Oh yeah and Time Lords sent the 3rd Doctor to UNIT in the time they did was specifically because they knew that The Master was going the show up and wanted The Doctor to stop/catch him
The reason Classic and New Doctor ages are consistent to each era, but not to each other, is because whole centuries of 1-War's life was muddled and twisted
One of my personal fan theories that has absolutely no effect on the show but has always interested me is about Waters on Mars:
I was just rewatching it last night, it's one of my favourite episodes of New-Who, and I was reminded of one of my biggest questions of the episode. Why was Maggie's infection so different from the others?
Now, whilst we see several infections towards the end of the episode, we only really see three infections for long scale; Maggie, Andy and Tarak. So only these three are really long enough to use for comparison. We saw that Maggie was very much more aware or sentient than the other two and the Doctor even makes a point of mentioning it, but we are never given a reason. She even looks different, her eyes don't glaze over in the same way as Andy and Tarak. She is definitely smarter and more capable. Then even when we briefly see Steffi get infected her eyes dont change and glaze over like the men, they stay like her own, same as Maggie. Whereas all the men we only briefly see do indeed glaze over.
However, we know that the Flood were frozen in the ice by the Ice Warriors, we know that they had some contact with one and another. We also know from classic who and "The Empress of Mars" that the ancient Martain Ice Warriors were a matriarchal species, with a Queen in charge, like a Bee Hive or an Ant nest. So, my idea is, what if the Flood virus used this? What if it specifically evolved like this; to treat the men of a species like drones and the female of a species like a hive queen - because that's what it was used to with the Ice Warriors? It just didn't know that humanity didn't operate like that.
Its not a massively important point, but it explains a question that always made me curious. Thoughts?
Haven't seen Waters of Mars in years, and have no knowledge of Ice Warriors except what you wrote - but this seems like a theory grounded in things actually written into the show, rather than theory by omission. A lot of people get carried away with what could be with no evidence to back it up - really nice write-up of a good idea!
@@Tucker12456 Thank you so much! Good to know it even makes sense to someone who hasnt seen some of what Im saying about.
A headcannon I have is that the drums the Master hears is time and the drumbeat is just how his mind is comprehending hearing time
Sadly Rassilon said it was the heartbeat of a time lord, and he imprinted it into The Master's brain as a child to form a link, or something
@heddecatamer Well shit nvm then. Was this in the end of time and I forgot or was it in Big Finish?
@@Blandy8521 End Of Time, when the Time Lords were being menacing and intense like halfway through part 2
@@HedeccaTamer Perhaps its both? Perhaps the link thing intensified the drumbeats or utilised that break in his mental stability somehow.
I can imagine the master used cybermen as inspiration when augmenting the toclafane
What adds to the Toclafane are Cybermen theory is that in a comic it's said that the time lords never intervene with the cybermen because far in the future they will transcend their forms and lead the people out of a dying universe...
It's kind of relevant to a theory mentioned here. I think that both versions of human nature did happen. Because of the damage done by the time war, the events were altered to happen to the tenth doctor instead of the seventh. The differences between the two versions of the story is also due to damage caused by the time war.
My headcanon is that “the timeless child” isnt a different species, the reason the doctor has infinite regenerations is because he absorbed the power of the time vortex(in bad wolf), which is where I believe regenerations come from
I LIKE this one!
I highly doubt this is true but I always liked the idea that The Master is actually the timeless child, it made more sense for it to be him, it explained his anger at Galifray and it explains why he keeps coming back when he should be dead. I might just be in denial because I really hated the timeless child being The Doctor
Two Theories I Have:
1: The Cushing Doctor is a future Doctor who used the fob-watch to hide himself as a human on Earth after his TARDIS crash-landed and broke after being perused by aliens. He could have been living on Earth for a long time, raising a family whilst working on fixing the TARDIS.
2: The TARDIS knows everything that ever was an ever will be (as confirmed by Rose in Series 1) so it protects the Doctor, only taking them to places it knows the Doctor will come out alive, or at least regenerate and live to fight another day. It explains why the Doctor hasn't just opened the TARDIS door and been killed. In fact the only time this happened was in the Dr Who Movie when the TARDIS was broken due to the Master.
Rose never spoke for the TARDIS. She spoke for the Bad Wolf, the personification of the time vortex that the TARDIS ran on. Of course, you could then argue that time itself favoured the Doctor in some form or another.
I refuse to believe that anything happens after Missy, she is the end of The Master's timeline in my mind
I like this, the master in season 12 is an early master. This would explain why he is active as though missy’s arc never happened
Big agree on this one. The Simm master stated himself that the laser screwdriver was at maximum power and Missy would not be able to regenerate.
She did regenerate tho it’s in big finish
@@rms.ziggler7344 is big finish canon?
@@BritishTrainspotting
She WAS vaporised by the Cyber-Brig, then turned up later on Skaro.
#DependsOnAnyWhimOfTheWriter
#TheMasterISGallifreyanKenny
They kind of are futuristic versions of the cybermen considering that they would have similar origins of augmenting themselves to survive.
I heard somewhere that Peter Cushing thinks his films are a product of the Doctor being messed with by the Celestial Toymaker.
Isn't there a baby Xenomorph prop in a Sixth Doctor episode? Not that Doctor Who has much canon, anyway.
I’ve always loved loose-script videos, there’s something about them that feels way more human
Of course subject matter is important to keep in mind, on a video-by-video basis, (can’t be explaining the entire history of Gallifrey unscripted😂) but the format really fits this one, I love it!
The thing with the Big Finish audios for the 8th Doctor is that they are confirmed to be canon in Night of the Doctor when 8 mentions his companions before he regenerates.
A headcanon that I have is that the Bronze Daleks from the new series are upgraded versions of the Imperial Daleks from the classic series and also the 8th Doctor has encounters these Daleks more and more as the Time War was closer to starting and before that was happening, he faced the Classic Imperial Daleks and those ugly blue balled Daleks on the covers of most Big Finish Audio stories for 8 can piss off as they were killed off after The Evil of the Daleks as far as I am concerned.
The reason why Davros wanted to upgrade the casings of his Daleks is simple: He thought it would give him a larger advantage over the Time Lords which was one of his goals as early as Rememberance.
The toglaphain theory is an interesting one... I actually think it's makes a lot of sense. However I don't have Twitter... So here's one of my own!
The reason Missy is turning Good is because she retained aspects of the Doctor after stealing their body in the latest episode. It's how she knows where Galifrey is cause they destroyed it with help from the cybermen. It's why when Capaldis Doctor gets there Galifrey isn't there anymore because she gave space time coordinates it doesn't exactly mean he arrived in order of the series.
That master (I forget his name he does a genuinely great job as well) is the incarnation after John Simm obsessed with helping the Doctor as times a fickle thing and now they know they will betray each other they actively try to work out why they even bothered to turn good when in actuality they turned themselves good by gaining the doctors perspective. The theory works both ways as I believe the reason Tennant is back is cause that's the closest the Doctor ever got to becoming like the Master. He genuinely thought he could tell time how it goes and that's incredibly dubious...
My head cannon is that Dhawan's Master comes in between John Simm and Missy and big finish will never change my mind.
My fan theory about the timeless child, would if the Master lied and it was all bullshit. But instead of the Doctor being the timeless child it's actually the Master who found out HE was ACTUALLY the timeless child and that's why the master burned the planet along with his people. So that's why he got so angry and wanted to mess with the Doctor a bit too. So to sum it up the Master is actually the timeless child.
Theroy: Timeless child is going to be Retcon by Neil Patrick Harris playing the celestial ToyMaker, and make the Ruth Doctor the 18th incarnation.
I have two things I think you forgot about with the Toclafane theory. Theres two angles, the fable of the 'toclafane' is the cybermen, the mythical origins being some weird form of cyberman from the future/past that inspired the myth.
Or that the Toclafane themselves are cybermen, which has more credit that they're 'cybermen' of the future, but they aren't THE Cybermen.
In Utopia they're supposedly traveling to a large beacon that's calling them, the captured Toclafane informs martha that when they arrived they found a cold, dead planet and had to turn themselves into the Toclafane to survive. The hypothesis being they arrived to a cyberplanet, a conversion factory transforming long since abandoned. An atmosphere to breath but nothing to maintain biological life, the only hope being the factories and converting themselves into the final form of the now extinct cybermen. Ala becoming the version they were in the end. The name 'Toclafane' came from a galafreian fable and they were given the name by the master after he travelled to the end of the universe to find them there, somehow surviving into the death of the universe, 100trillion years later.
Have you addressed the "Doctor Ruth is part of Season 6B" theory that so many (myself included) cling to?
I bet RTD is tempted to make that theory canon
That idea about the Toclafane being an advanced version of the Cybermen could still work. After all, the Master based his ones after the mythical ones that Time Lord culture talks about, it's their version of fairies.
Imagine the Cybermen become so advanced that they are these floating heads (not too dissimilar to what we see in the Ascension of the Cybermen), and because they're so advanced, they also have developed time travel. Now, for maximum domination, they spread across the entire timeline of the universe with the goal of dominating their own timeline, creating infinite universes where the Cybermen had total control.
The Time Lords of course tried to stop this, as they were the real masters of time and space and didn't like anyone encroaching on their turf, and so an ancient Time War began, all across time and space, eventually sealing the conflict into a Time Bubble, and since it encompassed all of time and space, it essentially blocked off the entire universe save for the very earliest forms (where the Cybermen would have no use for, but the Time Lords would have probably inhabited),
That means a new timeline would come from this single space, with the Time Lords in charge again, and they would know very little about that ancient Time War or the Cybermen, and so they'd chalk down the remnants of history about it into simple legend and fairy tales.
Because it's an entirely different timeline, the Cybermen of that old world could have been called Toclafane, or perhaps the term Cybermen morphed over thousands of years into Toclafane. Regardless, the Toclafane of legend were a different timeline of Cybermen, and so the theory still holds true.
And it opens the door to a new storytelling opportunity. One with the Cybermen of this universe advancing to the point of becoming Toclafane again (bring back the Cybermen from that black hole ship from World Enough and Time, since they'd have advanced faster than they ought to have) and so the Division appears to try and stop them before it's too late and the Cybermen take over again (and this time, since Gallifrey is gone, there's no one to stop them with another Time War), and this could be when the Doctor comes in and learns through the Division how the Toclafane are considered legend but the Division have figured out that it might have just been the remnants of a timeline and Time War before them.
Could begin a whole new arc following the Second Great Time War, this time instead of Daleks it's with Cybermen, and can slowly include all the other forces that utilize time travel, such as the Sontarans and Time Agency and even the Daleks (though, to keep it separate from the first Time War, I'd have them killed off by the superior Toclafane pretty quick).
My theory of the Cybermen is that if Davros never existed the Kaleds would basically become Cybermen in order to survive. The only reason someone as insane as Davros was even able to pitch his travel machine idea was because the Kaleds were already doomed to mutate and potentially die. Maybe without him they would've chosen the same route as the Mondasians.
You said that better than I ever could
So, would the Alien connection technically make Last Christmas the second time that John Hurt’s character (and Paul McGann’s character if you include the third movie) has been attacked by a xenomorph?
I enjoy hearing these kinds of headcanon. Fan theories are often eye-roll inducing, but I feel like that's what happens when a headcanon gets too big and complicated. These are a good bit of fun
My strong theory is that the Doctor, despite (I guess) having been the Timeless Child, doesn't have unlimited regenerations. That should be obvious. The 11th Doctor was going to die w/o getting a new regeneration cycle from the Time Lords. Even *if* the current hierarchy of Time Lords (including Rassilon) knew about what the Doctor was, why would they have not just given them a new cycle of 12 regenerations? The Timeless Child is in that watch 13 got & tucked into the TARDIS in the Flux. The Doctor is still nothing but a Time Lord... just like both the 10th & Fugitive Doctors were nothing but human after (& until they reversed) the Chameleon arch / fob watch thing. You want unlimited regenerations & for them not to be biologically just a Time Lord, then you can have a future Doctor restoring their memories - & original Timeless Child biology. Until then, there's no reason or excuse to see the Doctor have more than, I calculate, 9 or 10 more regenerations. 12 looked like it cost a regeneration. If it did, it's 9, otherwise it's 10 regenerations left. 13 cost a regeneration. 14 (new Tennant) cost another. Maybe we can ignore the 2 "forced" regenerations of the 13th (back, & forth). But the Doctor doesn't have unlimited regenerations, because the Doctor had that Chameleon Arch used on them... & like all other uses, it both wiped their memories & also changed their species (to Time Lord). It's annoying people talk like anything changed w the Timeless Child narrative other than what we knew about the past. They're a Time Lord, & by my count they have 9, *maybe* 10 regenerations left. 7 or 8, if we're forced to count forced regeneration back & forth.
they'll probably cook up something to replenish the regenerations when the time comes anyway
@@yeeoof1995 True, but they should have to do that, explain that. If that future show runner just uncritically goes w "Timeless Child, so unlimited regenerations," I'd feel very cheated. Unless they super shake things up by having the Doctor reverse the Chameleon Arc, by digging it up in the TARDIS. But then the memories of the Doctor's 2000+ year lifetime since the beginning of the First Doctor's life will be just a drop in an ocean of a recovered billions of years life, & that should also be a very big deal, that should permanently change the Doctor. It's the kind of thing that has to be done both consistently & well, or else it's very bad instead.
My take on that theory (if we keep the Timeless Child retcon) is that it's psychosomatic. He believes he has limited regenerations so he's mentally unable to regenerate at that point. We know from the Master Time Lords can refuse to regenerate so maybe there was a self-fufilling prophecy of "I can't regenerate anymore, therefore I won't regenerate"
My GREAT theory... The Shalka Doctor, is a splinter of The Great Intelligence following Trenzalore
I like the last one about skaro, it's interesting. It also ties the doctor into the origins of the daleks, as his actions started the species on the technological path that would lead to their world war and the creation of the daleks.
The Doctor is an interdenominational turtle that wants to eat kids and take a nap and then eat kids again and repeat. Boom! My Theory. Also Rory is the Master that’s why River is Timelord💀
Agree that Xenomorphs would be a poor tonal fit for Doctor Who, but I don't think they'd be overpowered for the setting. Daleks would effortlessly curbstomp xenomorphs, for example.
maybe in the doctor who universe the xenomorphs arent as op but Geiger just exagerated how dangerous they are
What always bothered me about River is it felt like, whereas RTD gave female characters different personalities, Moffat just came up with different (and very, very bad) reasons why they're arrogant. In River's case, it was "time travel causes me to know more than the Doctor", and he was the bigger person because he didn't click his fingers, singing, "I know how you die, I know how you die!"
I have always believed that he doubly influenced Skaro in their Stone Age and their Industrial Age
I have always believed the official start of the Last Great Time War was the Time Lords trying to stop the Thousand Year War that eventually led to the Daleks from happening
10:16 I was listening but didn't see the text of the tweet, so I thought it said that Karra was BENNI... now that _would_ be a twist :)
"Mind you, he was way off the mark with all that stuff in Episode 9."
I've never been more convinced the Doctor is real and really has a time machine
Where is that from?
@@technolegends306 Star wars lol
@@Cormorant42 I meant the text, is it from a book? A script?
1. Peri really did die in Mind Warp, the high inquisitor just lied at the end of the trial so as to keep the Doctor on-side. The Doctor eventually found out the truth, which (along with Evelyn's influence) played a huge role in Six's character arc.
2. From Waters of Mars onwards, Ten thought when he regenerated it would be into the Valeyard (because he'd 'gone too far'). But ironically he would only have become the Valeyard if he HADN'T saved Wilf, because the Valeyard wasn't about what face he'd be wearing, but what choices he'd make. This ties in with the BF audio 'Trial of the Valeyard' where Six is told something along the lines of "you create the Valeyard through your fear of becoming him" (forget the exact wording). Thankfully Ten does the right thing anyway, and realizes the truth right as he's regenerating, which is why Eleven is so happy and relieved throughout The Eleventh Hour - contrary to the usual post-regeneration trauma, it's more of a post-regeneration euphoria.
3. This last one is more a case of choosing which contradictory version of canon to go with, but here goes: Big Finish wrote a crueller alternate ending for each of the s19 companions (The Gathering, The Boy that Time Forgot, and the Older Nyssa arc respectively) and i straight-up choose to ignore all three stories because that shit is DEPRESSING. And if you think "how can any alternate ending be worse than dying in a spaceship crash?" ohhh just you wait.
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(In the words of the {apparently} immortal Pilz-E...)
"IMPRESSED, am I!"
Most ESPECIALLY with your thoughts RE:The Valeyard! It never occurred to me that the Doctor would have (let us be candid) DE-generated into the Valeyard, had he let Wilf expire.
(I'm also somewhat embarrassed to have to admit that--- but it REALLY should have occurred to me, since he had JUST pulled his head out of his {ahem} G.I. tract, and lost the "Time Lord Victorious" attitude.)
To be EQUALLY honest--- Ol' Railyard WAS the ultimate result of said attitude.
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My take on the whole River thing is that Eleven just doesn't really work as a romantic interest. Like in general, but especially with River. Cause Eleven is simultaneously like a twelve-year-old and a grandpa, while River is a seductive and flirty person who visually looks older than him. So they just don't fit very well.
Twelve on the other hand has a more serious and adult-ish personality compared to Eleven, and, in my opinion, that just makes his dynamic with River a lot more natural and balanced. At least that's why I prefer River paired with him rather than Eleven.
I think that when at the end of the Time of the Doctor, when the Doctor is given some new regeneratioons by the Time Lords, this was actually the Division pretending to give him more regenerations because if they diddn't he would realise that he was an execption to the regeneratuon limit and would then try to investigate and find out about the Timeless Child, so him being 'given' more regenerations was a cover up for the timeless child instead of him being given them because he deserved it
I'm happy my theory got to be in a video!
1. The Toclofane are said to have emotions, they can experience fun, as shown when the Diamond Skies kid is questioned, post Toclofaning. They're not Cybermen.
2. The self-loathing may be one element, but I also believe it's vanity. They see themselves as *The* Doctor, and to see someone that claims to be The Doctor acting so different makes them feel angry.
3. Alternate timelines could also be explained through the parallel universe thing, as seen throughout series 2 and 4.
And another thing. I once heard an absolutely ridiculous Doctor Who "theory" in which The Doctor was actually Tony Tyler, and Tony somehow grew up with 2 hearts, hyperintelligence, and regeneration, magically making a sentient TARDIS, and going on his own Doctor Who adventures. And whenever weddings are mentioned, we're suddenly watching the other one. The guy making this theory claimed that "ive used it to predict the show before, and ill make some more predictions for you" and then proceeded to list off some stupidity, such as: "The 13th Doctor travels back in time, becomes Mary, the 10th Doctor joins her as Joseph and they have a child, Jesus." "The 15th Doctor ends up being Merlin from the BBC show." And a lot more I probably don't remember because I lost the original comment thread. All of this stemmed from my own theory, which came from me knowing very little about Doctor Who at the time.
My theory was that Time Lords are Utopian Humans, who after a resolved paradox had reverse engineered time travel, travelling back to the very start of creation, which gave them a boost in becoming Time Lords. And from there, it's open ended how they got to everything the Time Lords did.
The idea of 11 not loving River can be explained away simply by the fact that 11 was immature. He likely did love her, but was just too mature to show it romantically.
imagine if the whole dr who is a repeating cycle of his life going 1-24, then 24 regenerates back to 1st
I think 11 was mostly going through the motions with River. Like he knows she's gotta learn his name and she clearly loves him from the word go(from the doctors pov), but I think when 11 was away from her after Amy and Rory got got he started to actually love her. But I think 12 really was the Doctor who loved her. The way 12 says Hello Sweetie, the way he teases her for thinking he didnt love her, The fact that he looks heart broken when she says it. 12 was River's Doctor and River was 12's romantic soul mate. That's why its 12 who took her to Durillium, why 12 maybe the screwdriver to save. It wasn't just to maintain history, it was legit love.
I've got this theory that the Fugitive Doctor is an alternative 4th Doctor following the Unbound series. Specifically the story where the Doctor regenerates into a woman and hides as a checkout worker. The story ends with the Doctor on the run from the Time Lords again.
Given how the Fugitive Doctor reacts to Gaz's words about the Doctor's stasis about working for the Division - it would follow that this was a Doctor caught by the Time Lords and forced into service.
This would explain the police box TARDIS - the classic interior - the Time Lords still around - and why 13th had no idea about this incarnation.
Also with the plan of Techtaun to move to a new universe/E-Space Saga/Pete's world/Gallifry being tucked away into a pocket universe/11 rebooting the universe/River breaking reality - I could see Time Lords from other realities shifting through and making a muck of the Doctor the show follows - life confusing.
I had a theory that when there was a war, or attack and an innocent planet was under fire, regular people even though they were not a time lord, took up the mantle of "The Doctor" to try and help.
Here’s a new one: Ncuti Gatwa isn’t The Doctor, he’s the Watcher. The Watcher wasn’t “The Doctor all along” (Sorry Nyssa) they are actually a separate entity that symbiotically merged with The Doctor to facilitate his 4th regeneration and they’ve been living as a merged being since then. When The Doctor was shot by the Toymaker it forced The Watcher out of the Doctor but after having lived so long as a merged entity The Watcher currently still believes that they are actually The Doctor. ALSO it is The Watcher not The Doctor that is the Timeless Child.
I don’t personally believe this theory as it’s based solely on the fact that when we went from 4 to 5 two beings joined together and coincidentally when we went from 14 to 15 two beings split apart from each other. Although it does solve the problems of 2 weird regenerations and is a nice solution to the canon nightmare that is The Timeless Child.
ADRICK LIVES!
That's not a theory, I just felt like saying it
When he said Bernice, I thought he said Benny lol!!
I don't mind an extended break before we start Capaldi. It seems like you enjoy doing these, and I like the variety (though I might commission a Classic Who review some time).
The 60s doctor who movies are movies in the doctor who universe for me, absolutely.
The Master didn't "make" the Toclafane, the humans did that to themselves, so the Cyberman theory holds water there. It's given as exposition in the Last of the Time Lords, when Martha, Tom and Prof Docherty manage to open one of the spheres, and we have that cutaway editing between them and then the Doctor and the Master on the Valiant discussing the Toclafane. Sure, it's possible that the Master lied about that, but given that the TARDIS's locked coordinates had leeway (as shown by the Master's 18 month stint on Earth), it's entirely possible that he's telling the truth too. He tells the Doctor that he took Lucy to Utopia, not to Malcassairo, so clearly there's some wiggle room there.
I enjoy these videos but when will you start series 8. I love all Capaldi seasons and I can’t wait to see your opinion on them. Great video though!!!
My big hc goes along with the time war alternate timelines one. I like to think that the first time around 8 was the one who used the moment, because if anyone could've done it a battered and broken 8 would, so the events of Night of the Doctor were set up to prevent him from doing so. This means that the War Doctor was literally retconed in universe in real time as a last resort to end the war, save gallifrey, and morally save the Doctor.
Some incarnations won’t get along with each other cause the Past incarnation get annoyed by the current one
Like how some things 12 did partially annoyed 1
Now that you mention that--- I wonder if Dr. #1 can enjoy the song " Sunglasses 🕶️ At Night" quite with the same enthusiasm, after meeting Dr. #12.
The missy theory doesn't fit, both crispy masters (as missy calls them) are after Delgado, they along with every other version of the master in the classic era are the 13th incarnation of the master (all four actors). How the master came to be crispy was the result of the master though, so that bit is correct.
As for missy, she is fairly firmly placed somewhere in the masters second set of regenerations, with John simms master being the 4th/17th incarnation and missy coming after him, she is at least the master's 18th incarnation.
3:15 it says “ORY” on the box Rory confirmed as the Master?!?!
I have a rule. If a peace of media has parallel universes or time lines then EVERYTHING IS CANON!!! If it does fit then it happened in another universe.
Ridley Scott did work on Dr who. I think he has something to do with the production of the daleks.
I forget what episode but the doctor finds a baby xenomorph in a jar holds up to camera and Everything
The Doctor isn't the Timeless Child, but a reincarnation of the Timeless Child (looms), the Ruth Doctor takes place between the second and third Doctors and Tecteun is the Other.
One of my favorite headcannon is that the 9th Doctor before he met Rose was the lead signer of Men at Work
Man.. Harbo you just are knocking it out the park with the content at the moment 👏👏
My wild theory: Planet Time is ancient Gallifrey and the Mouri are Time Lords.
I mean xenomorphs existing is basically already canon, thanks to the egg in a Sixth Doctor episode, Wayland-Yutani's logo being in Paradise Towers, and that Ninth Doctor comic where there's a xenomorph in a suit.
9:03 "Too overpowered."
Compared to what? The Reality Bomb? The Chronovores? Heck, even a Dalek is leagues above a Xenomorph in terms of power.
Kinda like the idea for a future Horror Themed Doctor Who Story where the Doctor meets HR Giger and they encounter these beastial aliens that kill people in very savage ways
Someone tries to kidnap the Doctor to create regenerating xenomorphs
I like the river theory
Roasting people alive is one of my favorite hobbies. 😈
Timeless child didn’t happen it’s all in our hands 😂
Jodie Whittaker's character is not in fact the Doctor. The real Doctor is missing and the high council of Galifray have sent her out into the universe to try to draw a reaction from whoever is responsible for The Doctor's disappearance - and as the TARDIS won't accept another timelord while The Doctor lives, they employed a shape-shifting being from the planet Ork, to take his place.
The gormless starring, gurning and lack of intelligence displayed by Jodie's "Doctor" are all subtle clues that she is an imposter who evolved from a chicken.
... The TARDIS DID kick her out within the first minute of her appearance.
(Just saying.)
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Theory,
1. The timelords lied about who was the timeless child because they needed to hide the real identity from their enemies.
2. Missy got the cybermen from the mendacious cybermen space ship.
mendacious?
Can some one answer me 2 questions? First, where is Jenny? Second, where is K9?
The thought of doctor who monsters dressing up for Christmas is so insanely funny I'm taking it as fact.
And this isn't much of a theory, more of a headcanon, but I think the Doctors accent is influenced by the people around them when they regenerate. 10 and 11 have English accents because the last person 9 and 10 see are Rose and she's on his mind, 12 is Scottish because he was thinking of Amy (my personal canon is that the dinosaur was Scottish) and 13 ended up in Sheffield.
Part 2 would be cool
Nice to see mine in the video, didn’t quite think it was particularly good.
susan isn't actually the doctor's granddaughter. i had this theory when series 9 was airing. with the whole hybrid arc. and the question is why did the doctor leave Gallifrey. because susan was the hybrid. (which it sould have been)
because how many times in classic who did we go back to gallifrey and yet their seems to never be any mention of her. or any other members of the doctor's family. i mean if susan is the grandchild, then who is the child/parent. who is the grandmother/wife. why doesn't the doctor ever go back and visit like he promised?
i know a lot of the lore around dr who started to come into effect after susan left. with many just assuming that he was just a human from the future at the time. hence why in the movies with peter cushing. he's a human. i feel people forget that film was made before Patrick Troughton ever made it on screen as the doctor.
I don't really take notice of big finish. I'm a bit confused to what you mean by the day of the doctor idea with the cushion films .
there was a xenomorph egg in van stattens museum
“Did Deep Breath fix Clara as a companion?”. I need it.
👍This was a nice change of pace video. Make another one and I'll add in the comments, my head canon concerning the Timeless Child and Sasha's 'extra serving of sociopath' Master vs. the Time War...
One of my own is that the Listen entities are real, and are the same species (or a similar one) as the Boneless from Flatline. Their extra-dimensional powers as seen in Flatline make a pretty good explanation for some of the more bizarre events of Listen, though their exact motives are anyone's guess.
The Midnight entity could even be explained this way too. That bus seemed pretty damn neatly sliced in two from the information we got to see - could be more 2D/3D manipulation?
I'd say that it's more the E-space's equivalent of galifrey, not galifrey.
Yea tbf while I had an idea how Karra/Benny could work, it was quite convoluted and I've just accepted that it's a bit silly... I like the last theory a lot though
HEY MY THEORY IS ON A HARBO WHOMES VIDEO!😁
I can’t wait for a potential part 2!
i would be inclined to agree with you about the doctor not loving river, except that she knows his name, and 10 outright says there’s only one reason he would ever tell anyone his name, there’s only one time he could, i think that’s the main implication that he was in fact in love with her
River knowing his name doesn't have to be indictive of the doctor loving her (just that he knows she tells him and he's keeping the timelines intact)I think of their marriage as one of convenience also we still don't know when exactly he told her and does the one reason really have to be that he loves her however much that is implied
@@toobakasiri3365 coming back to this now i think there’s definitely room for nuance with their relationship, it makes a lot of sense that the doctor having a previous inclination of their relationship might cause his feelings to be less authentic, but you also have to remember how much he genuinely values their time together, and their relationship is obviously platonic, romantic and sexual, so i guess it comes down to how you define “being in love”
lurveee the video!!! but, RIVER SLAYSSSSS #youjustdontgether
I have a headcanon that The Master brainwashed Lucy to shoot him should The Doctor stop him in Last of the Time Lords. She seemed kinda out of it in that scene, like she was under some kind of influence.
Isn’t it stated that humans turned themselves into toclafane and the master just brought them back
The curse of fatal death is fully part of the main TV story line, making oanna Lumley the first female doctor. Sorry Jodie.
Perhaps its one of those alternate timelines to the main tv show timeline. As it was before the timewar, perhaps the affects of the timewar effectively destroyed that timeline or something.
Yeah if the next doctor takes place in 1860 then to be Dr Who Jackson Lake Woud be like 130 in the cushing movies. Even if we use the son who's like 8 in 1860 then that would make Dr Who 100ish
Dreamcrabs are an homage to the Zenomorphs of the Aliens Franchise .
I think the woman in the end of time is Techeun
Doesn't seem that far fetched, they both look similar and she said in Flux that most of their regenerations did look similar at times. And it was comfirmed that that woman from the End of Time is The Doctor's mother. Even though Techeun wasn't even created yet at that point.
As much as I and others want to dismiss the Doctor being the Timeless Child. I still don't want the TC to be dismissed altogether as it's a decent regeneration origin story, just not a good Doctor origin story.
Techeun could be the Doctor's mother still with Hartnell still being the 1st Doctor, the Doctor would still be connected to the heads of Time Lord society and at least it doesn't retcon 60 years of world building.
I had a feeling I'd seen that title before!
How is river alive after when he first met her
that was the first time he met her, but the last time she met him. they're time travellers, that's the whole point of her
WE NEED CAPALDI REVIEWS