Metal Filing Techniques for Filing A Knife Spine or Other Blacksmithing Projects

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  • čas přidán 2. 05. 2017
  • In this video, I show metal filing techniques that could be used for filing a knife spine or all sorts of other blacksmithing projects, like a hammer, tomahawk, etc. I show you how to file metal using two types of files: a 1/8" round rats tail file of a course grade, and a fine triangular shape file.
    In the techniques I show, I do cold filing instead of hot filing. If you are wondering, "why use files?" then take a look at the effect that metal filing can achieve. If you do metalworking of any sort, these metal filing methods will help you produce beautiful ornamental accents to projects you are already making.
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Komentáře • 82

  • @Jasoncohenour
    @Jasoncohenour Před 3 lety

    Nice demo. You’re doing a great job sharing w us. Don’t waste good O2 talking about trolls.

  • @ReadyUpGo
    @ReadyUpGo Před rokem +1

    I’m no expert, but I know what I like. You’re doing a great job. You pay attention to what we’re viewing, you allow imperfection to remain and become a source for teaching and I feel like you are sharing your learning experience as much as offering what you’ve already learned. Maybe allow some quiet time here and there as you go along…just an idea. New subscriber.

  • @rogueandvagabondrabbit5837
    @rogueandvagabondrabbit5837 Před 6 lety +20

    Actually, the only constructive criticism I would add that would be 100% true is that you shouldn’t even waste your time addressing your detractors. When you do that, you’re giving them relevance they don’t deserve. As you pointed out, most of them don’t do anything, anyway. Cool video.

  • @chuckbowie5833
    @chuckbowie5833 Před 2 lety

    Incredibly helpful

  • @redbear_70
    @redbear_70 Před 3 lety

    Appreciate the video man. Haters gonna hate cause they have no lives of their own lol. Not like they were forced to watch!

  • @edgarmiears5992
    @edgarmiears5992 Před 3 lety +2

    You do a great job of showing the pattern. I am a beginner to file work and you describe very well. Thank you.

  • @mattstanzil3072
    @mattstanzil3072 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the tips. I do a lot of grinding work for my knives as is and this will give it a cool flair and take them to the next step. Keep it up an thanks again.

  • @WardSmith-th2fc
    @WardSmith-th2fc Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for the tips

  • @fishingingermany6977
    @fishingingermany6977 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice one, still working on my first few knife attempts, and good way to make them at least more decorative without having to buy more tools.

  • @AndrewDBGaming
    @AndrewDBGaming Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for this mate. Only just starting out doing this beautiful hobby and really want to give something like this a go and your tutorial is very informative for beginners. Legend.

  • @chris.b4459
    @chris.b4459 Před 5 lety

    Thanks , I appreciate your time , you taught me something new today that I will use on make my knives.

  • @Cutlersdragons
    @Cutlersdragons Před 5 lety

    Thank you for the video. These helps me as a new guy wanting to start learning this.

  • @myshoplifejmjones1256
    @myshoplifejmjones1256 Před 5 lety

    Big fan of Tom , worked a few days with him years ago, great vid . Doing some edge filling right now.

  • @shane4176
    @shane4176 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for your time, I'ma give it a shot

  • @phillipsheldon5663
    @phillipsheldon5663 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks for the great rant on the keyboard warriors and the wonderful instruction on file work. I believe that you told me what I was doing wrong so I can better myself and my work on my blades. As a disabled veteran that has started a new journey in life in the form of bladesmithing. Safe journeys, Doc

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  Před 6 lety

      Hey Doc, Glad you found the video helpful. I've some some similar videos on filing, just released a vid on filing tips with a list of files i keep on hand in the description. Thanks for watching!

  • @michaelhayes1678
    @michaelhayes1678 Před 3 lety

    Love it! Great vid, and the "black magic" marker was a great addition. :D

  • @WarpedLegacy
    @WarpedLegacy Před 7 lety +3

    Great tutorial man! I like being able to see these processes. Keep up the great stuff. Define Your Legacy!

  • @zomb1ek1ller5
    @zomb1ek1ller5 Před 6 lety

    Well hot digity! I seen that on a few knives and really wondered how it was done and had some ideas about it but now that ive seen it ill deffinetly mess around and try it forsure.

  • @wesshoebridge4461
    @wesshoebridge4461 Před 3 lety

    Ty i thought this file work would be this simple keep doing u my next knife will way better thanks to u

  • @The_Wandering_Woodster
    @The_Wandering_Woodster Před 7 lety +1

    Keep the new stuff coming...your channel gets better and better

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  Před 7 lety

      Hi Stephen, thanks for the encouragement! I've got lots of big plans for the future... I'm sticking with CZcams for the long haul

  • @beastlyironworks8296
    @beastlyironworks8296 Před 5 lety

    Once again brother you have put out a video, that is exactly what I'm looking for. That simple little design has got my head reeling with new ideas to on my customers new Bush knife. And for the love of God brother don't waste another minute of your precious time worrying about the trolls that are on the internet they don't deserve your time nor your thoughts. Keep up the good work and the great videos.

  • @TheRedhawke
    @TheRedhawke Před 4 lety

    Great tutorial. From an old guys perspective, don't even waste your good energy on negative type people. If they don't add to the equation how are they helping anyone further themselves? I'm 58 years old and refurbishing an old knife for my son, that I wanted to do the lock bar on similar to what you did in this video. You helped me, so to heck with those so called trolls. Keep on keeping on with your productive beautiful life sir.

  • @WardSmith-th2fc
    @WardSmith-th2fc Před 2 měsíci

    Nice

  • @Miiiitch88
    @Miiiitch88 Před 4 lety +3

    Layout dye would be better than a marker (if available). You should also measure accurately where you want to file before hand. Start with a triangle file because it wont slide down your work when you first start the cut. Also scribe lines on the top and sides as guides for depth.

    • @kenbtheman
      @kenbtheman Před 2 lety

      Well said, and use some good quality files.

  • @msblades5382
    @msblades5382 Před 7 lety +1

    great video and very helpful for the people that have never tried it and would like to.good job explaining ,Sincerely, Martin Moldovan at M/S Blacksmithing and Blades

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  Před 7 lety +2

      Shan Moldovan Thank you for your encouragement! I like doing these types of videos. Hopefully I will be able to keep on kicking them out daily for you guys and gals!
      God bless

  • @michaelgold8997
    @michaelgold8997 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you

  • @gregoryarbuckle624
    @gregoryarbuckle624 Před 2 lety

    Thank you nice video

  • @djecpamba
    @djecpamba Před 3 lety +2

    Enjoying the video, only Better if I were there.

  • @arokiasamyanthony5371
    @arokiasamyanthony5371 Před 3 lety

    Tq friend

  • @anonymousbosch9265
    @anonymousbosch9265 Před 4 lety

    I have a Regenyei great sword that needs some character on the unsharpened lower 1/3 of the 51” blade and it’s a Spanish/Portuguese Spada Duo Mani and I’m thinking a vine file work pattern and a 20 second dip in the ferochloric acid solution will finish it nicely. Great video showing that this file work isn’t prohibitively daunting

  • @jerrythomas463
    @jerrythomas463 Před 4 měsíci +1

    The plus to chainsaw files is they are not tapered. They are the same width all the way up.

  • @nosaltiesandrooshere7488

    👍 = there is nothing left to say! Everything perfect!

  • @kylerunyan5950
    @kylerunyan5950 Před 5 lety

    Do you do these before or after the heat treating? I know its easier to do beforehand but does heat treating mess up the work?

  • @patrikklopf476
    @patrikklopf476 Před 5 lety +2

    Thank you very mutch share your skills.
    It's absolutely right what u say about trolls :)

  • @c4dan
    @c4dan Před 4 lety

    trolls got ya, pay them no mind. keep doing the videos, they help some of us

  • @telmobrandao5062
    @telmobrandao5062 Před 6 lety +1

    How do you glue the scales, without getting the jimping full of glue?
    Loved the video, keep them coming.

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  Před 6 lety

      +Telmo Brandao I wish I could help you out with your question but I'm not a Knife Guy so I wouldn't really know :-) this was just a technique that I've used in the past on springs for lock work

    • @lazar2175
      @lazar2175 Před 6 lety

      You either mask it off using vaseline or you use black glue and glue over it and then sand,so it gives nice contrast

  • @jeremynading2006
    @jeremynading2006 Před 7 lety +1

    one thing you might try when doing your demonstrations like this is use a darker background with a light source and camera angle that is more straight on or even take the piece out of the vise and move it around as to capture different reflective views and light angles

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  Před 7 lety

      +Jeremy Nading thank you very much for your advice! It might be hard for me to find a nice black backdrop or dark backdrop but I may give that a shot in one of my upcoming videos and see how it turns out. Thank you so much for the feedback. I'm glad you enjoyed the video God bless you and have a great weekend!

    • @jeremynading2006
      @jeremynading2006 Před 7 lety +1

      You're very welcome. Something that might be cheap and easy is some plain black construction paper or something like along those lines that won't cause a glare or contrast. Something that might even be better and more readily accessible would be an old T-shirt or shop rag.

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  Před 7 lety

      +Jeremy Nading you're very right! I think I was overthinking it a little bit LOL. I do believe I have an old black t-shirt that may work! Thanks once again for the great ideals now just to put them in practice next time I'm in the shop :-)

    • @jeremynading2006
      @jeremynading2006 Před 7 lety +1

      Don't feel bad I do it all the time. Like when I was trying to build my son a four wheeler I tried to get way to technical and went as far as wiring in a plug for a trailer that didn't even exist and everything when all he wanted the machine for was to cruise around the property and maybe up in the mountains. It didn't need to be anything fancy or anything and when I first started on it I was taking forever just to get the idea on paper then I had one of those face-palm moments and threw out the "blue prints" and just went to town letting my hands run wild and it only took about 5 days to get it done after that.

  • @grayem76
    @grayem76 Před 7 lety +3

    nice work mate would love to see some finished work that you have spent time on to see how amazing the work can be to put a big price tag on but i can see its easy if your o.c.d. im a hack at best

    • @ChristCenteredIronworks
      @ChristCenteredIronworks  Před 7 lety

      grayem pepper thanks for the great comment! I will see if I can get some photos of some more of my work in the next decorative video I release :-)
      Thanks for watching
      God bless

  • @jpknives5195
    @jpknives5195 Před 3 lety

    I know this is old but what if you are doing hardened steel what files would you recommend

  • @Baldmanblades
    @Baldmanblades Před 5 lety

    I would like to try this on a straight razor I collect them would the hardened steel be a problem also filing the spine do you think it would mess up my bevel Of course I practice on a beat up razor

    • @gwaaiedenshaw8310
      @gwaaiedenshaw8310 Před 5 lety

      Barry Hammond you can do it on your razor. You'd just have to change up your technique a bit. Regular file won't cut your spine. But you can get diamond files. Or even a diamond rotary tool for similar effect.

  • @fieroboom
    @fieroboom Před 2 lety

    I've never done this before, but it looks like maybe you could mark your spacing, then hit it with some small chisel marks for your file to follow so it would be more evenly spaced...?
    I'm just getting into smithing, but that's my newbie's idea 😂🤣

  • @gregwise5324
    @gregwise5324 Před 5 lety

    Thanks Roy For Another Great Video! Just Wondering If "Dykem" Layout Fluid,/Dye Would Work As Well? I Have Some, & Tried it & It Worked Quite Well For Me, Although I Don't Have Near As Much Experience As You. It's Just What I Had, So I Used It. Also The Only Small Round File I already Had Was A Chainsaw File & It Has A Fairly Fine Cut. Once Again , That's What I Had, So I Used It. It Worked, Although I Can't Tell If As Well As A Course Cut , Because I Don't Have One To Compare It With.All I Can Say Is, It Worked For Me.,As For Trolls, They Live Under Bridges, Don't They?? Thanks Again! Keep The Videos Coming...

  • @Zogg1281
    @Zogg1281 Před 5 lety +1

    Sweet video. I was going to suggest chainsaw files and now I can't 😥😋 oh well. The thing I wouldn't suggest is not using black Sharpe gor demos, it likes shadows way to much and makes it harder to see what you're doing. Blue or red dykem (I'd guess that Sharpe would work too) work as they don't blend into anything else in your shop (e.g. the vice) or into shadows. I hope this helps for the future 😊

  • @williambland3201
    @williambland3201 Před 7 lety

    Good job. thank you. Backwoods Blacksmith.

  • @jusme8060
    @jusme8060 Před 3 lety

    Ta ta today junior

  • @Danielson1818
    @Danielson1818 Před 3 lety

    Lol. I'm such an idiot! I just bought a set of files a couple months ago. I made 1 attempt to do a little pattern on the spine of my knife, and it didn't cut it at all. I forgot to put it in a vice! Duh! I don't know why I thought I could just hold the knife in my hand.

  • @markbentz8940
    @markbentz8940 Před 3 lety

    critics,,,are just jealous of your skills .....n wish they could do it!!!

  • @dienowplease3565
    @dienowplease3565 Před 3 lety +1

    Here is an advice. Don't mention trolls ever and just ignore them. No reaction no fun for them.

  • @leswindon8301
    @leswindon8301 Před 4 lety

    Measure first

  • @eduardoelxamako
    @eduardoelxamako Před 4 lety

    Más fue lo que hablaste que lo que hiciste

  • @varun009
    @varun009 Před 5 lety

    Don't bother with armchair bladesmiths, man. I don't believe in God but I'll share something that my born again uncle used to tell himself: "Repent but never apologise."
    Awesome video, can't wait for another one on different patterns.

  • @nofunclub
    @nofunclub Před 7 lety +2

    DFTT

  • @adolf3967
    @adolf3967 Před 5 lety +5

    INSTEAD OF RANTING ABOUT TROLLS....SPEND MORE TIME ON INSTRUCTION....ITS OVBIOUS THEY GOT TO YOU....

  • @xrenox1
    @xrenox1 Před 6 lety +1

    Watched several videos from you and most have been great but this one was a disappointment. The information was informative I guess but executed poorly. Guess the information stands on it's own and was good information. Would not recommend to anyone to mark the steel black and not do any measurement markings so it comes out so unlevel as it did in the end. Otherwise the technique was there and plenty to learn, just ignore the freehand pattern.

  • @andreasburger6588
    @andreasburger6588 Před 6 lety

    M. Mm nun

  • @whoswho156
    @whoswho156 Před 5 lety

    did you really just move the camera and make baby noises while showing a bunch of men how to file metal LOL

  • @rayleder3705
    @rayleder3705 Před 3 lety

    Ummmm ummmm ummmmm