@@JoshThrives i had immediate gains like you. session 1 felt relief within 24 hours. session 2 allowed me to play basketball pain free. i'm done with session 8 now and am, with 1 leg, getting a full ATG squat with no assistance. so like you i'm really excited where i'll be. 1 month in i'm feeling great. Excited for month 3. Then standards, pro, math squat. etc. 2 years time i'll have bulletproof knees at 37! exciting :)
I had knee problems and just hearing about your beast/savage program hurts me horribly. My knees are good now but not nearly where they used to be. What I had is a microfracture of the cartilage (whatever the real name) and I went to see a kinesiologist who had a similar approach to KOT guy, I was doing exactly those exercises. I think I'll try the program after hearing more testimonies. Thanks for your feedback!
Everything you said in the beginning is so relatable. I’ve been lifting hard for over a year, walking 15,000 plus steps/day most of my adult life, etc. My fear has always been loss of mobility. Then one day I felt pain at the back of my knee. Then it locked. And then locked again, etc. 3 weeks later- torn meniscus in both knees and grade 3 and 4 chondromalacia patella with osteophytes. Supposed to discuss surgery tomorrow, but I’m not just going to accept that.
Dude! I did kettlebells and my knee hurt so bad I almost went to the ER. I couldn’t relieve the pain in any position. It felt like a root canal without novacane and I couldn’t sleep. I immediately stopped, prayed to God, Jesus healed me, I started walking and biking everyday and now just bought the KOT program.
Whats the duration of the first work out in zero? Can you give a brief on what the first work out involves? Intrigued to try the program, but still on the fence doing more research!
Depends how much of it you can do without pain; if you do everything it takes about 20-30 min max. It's basically all the bodyweight exercises you see him do in order. Tib Raise, Calf Raise, Patrick Step, ATG Split Squat, etc
Can we get an update? I am thinking of starting the program too, with patellar femoral pain and IT band syndrome for the last 9 months. How has it worked for you?
@@rahimagoga4839 Thanks for asking. I struggled for 10 months in PT and different programs, including Ben's, which all caused pain and didn't help, it turns out I had torn my meniscus, have a plica in that knee, and a cyst. So I am having surgery (next week - finally). After that's fixed I am hoping to go back to Ben's program and see if it helps.
arthritis/pain in knee could be caused by a root canal that is still infected. If your pain continues even though you're way into the ATG system, you might want to look into this. It might be moreso arthritis though, so maybe it might not apply
is it functional movement-based or do they focus on muscle building as well? I want to help strengthen my knees, but also my legs in general and my upper body...
They do give you an upper body workout for the other days, but the zero workout itself is the only thing for legs. Dense is a better full body program I'd say, once you've completed zero. I'd just do the workout they say then if you're still feeling like you want more, treat it as a warmup and do some more lifts/etc
@@JoshThrives thanks, definitely looking into going forward with this as i want to become a more limber and better moving athlete (as far as functional movement goes). But i dont want to leave the muscle building in the dust, with zero atleast. Only reason Im considering not skipping straight to dense is because i want to build my fundamentals with body weight, so i guess ill do that (upperbody) with my own program, coexisting with this...
Hi I feel like I'm going through similar injuries to you. I have partial labrum tear in my shoulder, similar to what you mentioned radial nerve symptoms. And Patella Femoral knee pain, I've just started the KOT program but want to incorporate exercises for upper body. What type of exercises did you do for your upper body? Or are u focusing on mobility work? I feel debilitated with my injuries. Pls help!🙏😊 any tips will be greatly appreciated.
Definitely just do what you can and try not to put too much pressure on yourself to get more done than your body is allowing. Know there will be a time (it might be years from now) that you'll be better. I did do a normal full upper body routine myself. The program gives a lot of good bodyweight exercises which are good but if you have weights or gym access you can do better
there are 3 12 week programs. The second, called dense, goes more into shoulder stuff, but there is an optional mini shoulder workout in the first part as well.
Almost 2 years later how are you feeling on the ATG program ? I’m still in my 1st week I’ll honestly say my knees were feeling better after the 1st day or 2 but now I feel like my knee is getting worst. I the Peterson step up thing is really causing me a lot of pain…. Any advice ?
Ya i got advice for you. When you are doing the work outs, really listen to your body. I got the Knee Ability Zero book and he explains that the sharp knee pain is bad(of course) but the burning muscle feeling is good. When you are working out and you feel any knee pain what so ever, thats your limit, temporarily. Don't push past that until one day it no longer hurts. But hey, I'm just some dude. I'm no expert. Good luck!
It was a different program that messed up my knees, it was maxing out reps of swings and deaflifts progressively more and more on a daily basis for like a week straight. Not part of the Rogan
It's slow progress, but there's most definitely progress. My condition, patellar fat pad inflammation, gave me basically chronic irritation, like the insides of my knees are all rubbing together constantly, and instead of having that feeling every single day, it's down to about 20% of days, and I feel noticeably better on days following the prescribed exercises. I can definitely tell it's helping, but I can also tell it'll probably be a while still before I'm doing knee over toe lunges with weights haha
Nice man!! Look after yourself. A friend of mine had to get a double hip replacement at age 32 as his years of playing serious rugby had left him with hips usually seen in someone aged 70+ 😱!! Also, have you been to a foot clinic? Maybe you need inserts in the souls of your shoes? Could be a gait problem? Just an idea :) Peace out!!
That's my nightmare haha. I've never had problems of that nature before and have always walked straight and had decent posture. It's pretty obvious to me it's just an overuse injury and I tend to believe most problems that don't require surgery can be solved through the proper ratio of strength, flexibility, and recovery. Appreciate you checking in 😄
@@JoshThrives that's awesome bro, it must be nice being able to live easier now. I'm in New Zealand but I'll see if he can do the program internationally. Thanks for doing the review and showing a couple exersices they actually feel really good.
@@JoshThrives I guess I’ll just have to check again. I’m in the app and under workouts is says “your coach hasn’t given you any workouts yet”. Or something similar. I’ll check again on the website tho. Thanks
Amazing program. Am talking to anyone who has knee issues. And even some who don't. Love KOT
Feeling a lot better since starting!
@@JoshThrives i had immediate gains like you. session 1 felt relief within 24 hours. session 2 allowed me to play basketball pain free. i'm done with session 8 now and am, with 1 leg, getting a full ATG squat with no assistance. so like you i'm really excited where i'll be. 1 month in i'm feeling great. Excited for month 3. Then standards, pro, math squat. etc. 2 years time i'll have bulletproof knees at 37! exciting :)
So fun! 🤘 Keep me posted!
I had knee problems and just hearing about your beast/savage program hurts me horribly. My knees are good now but not nearly where they used to be. What I had is a microfracture of the cartilage (whatever the real name) and I went to see a kinesiologist who had a similar approach to KOT guy, I was doing exactly those exercises. I think I'll try the program after hearing more testimonies. Thanks for your feedback!
Ugh I know it was such a stupid workout haha. Glad to hear you're improving 👌
How is your knee now after microfacture?
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When does the review start
Everything you said in the beginning is so relatable. I’ve been lifting hard for over a year, walking 15,000 plus steps/day most of my adult life, etc. My fear has always been loss of mobility. Then one day I felt pain at the back of my knee. Then it locked. And then locked again, etc. 3 weeks later- torn meniscus in both knees and grade 3 and 4 chondromalacia patella with osteophytes. Supposed to discuss surgery tomorrow, but I’m not just going to accept that.
Great video Josh! I have chronic back pain and will start pt! Thanks for sharing dude!
Lol look at us 🙃 I'm sure there's a simple (probably not easy, but simple lol) solution/routine out there that helps 🙏
Dude! I did kettlebells and my knee hurt so bad I almost went to the ER. I couldn’t relieve the pain in any position. It felt like a root canal without novacane and I couldn’t sleep.
I immediately stopped, prayed to God, Jesus healed me, I started walking and biking everyday and now just bought the KOT program.
Whats the duration of the first work out in zero? Can you give a brief on what the first work out involves? Intrigued to try the program, but still on the fence doing more research!
Depends how much of it you can do without pain; if you do everything it takes about 20-30 min max. It's basically all the bodyweight exercises you see him do in order. Tib Raise, Calf Raise, Patrick Step, ATG Split Squat, etc
Can we get an update? I am thinking of starting the program too, with patellar femoral pain and IT band syndrome for the last 9 months. How has it worked for you?
i've made like 5 detailed updates if you want to check those out!
Oh boy IT band just sucks have it now currently on both knees but now it’s only on my left. May try the program soon
Hi Anna how is your knee now? I have the same issue.
Update
@@rahimagoga4839 Thanks for asking. I struggled for 10 months in PT and different programs, including Ben's, which all caused pain and didn't help, it turns out I had torn my meniscus, have a plica in that knee, and a cyst. So I am having surgery (next week - finally). After that's fixed I am hoping to go back to Ben's program and see if it helps.
any updates on this review... because you have gotten yourself started but me wann know results
I've made tons of updates on my channel
arthritis/pain in knee could be caused by a root canal that is still infected. If your pain continues even though you're way into the ATG system, you might want to look into this. It might be moreso arthritis though, so maybe it might not apply
Knees are in great shape now! Thank you for your suggestion though
Can root canal infection cause knee pain?
is it functional movement-based or do they focus on muscle building as well? I want to help strengthen my knees, but also my legs in general and my upper body...
They do give you an upper body workout for the other days, but the zero workout itself is the only thing for legs. Dense is a better full body program I'd say, once you've completed zero. I'd just do the workout they say then if you're still feeling like you want more, treat it as a warmup and do some more lifts/etc
@@JoshThrives thanks, definitely looking into going forward with this as i want to become a more limber and better moving athlete (as far as functional movement goes). But i dont want to leave the muscle building in the dust, with zero atleast. Only reason Im considering not skipping straight to dense is because i want to build my fundamentals with body weight, so i guess ill do that (upperbody) with my own program, coexisting with this...
I had a patellar tendon surgery it robbed me of my athleticism and the feeling in my right knee isn't normal. I'm a do this.
Good luck! It's definitely helped. Along with strengthening glutes and hams (with exercises that don't work the knee too much, like RDLs)
How are u doing with your knee?
@@jayterra2060I still have not fully recovered I believe the damage is permanent.
@@Tiger24kicks praying for you, im so sorry. I had no clue that knee pain was so difficult to treat!!!
Hi I feel like I'm going through similar injuries to you. I have partial labrum tear in my shoulder, similar to what you mentioned radial nerve symptoms. And Patella Femoral knee pain, I've just started the KOT program but want to incorporate exercises for upper body. What type of exercises did you do for your upper body? Or are u focusing on mobility work? I feel debilitated with my injuries. Pls help!🙏😊 any tips will be greatly appreciated.
Definitely just do what you can and try not to put too much pressure on yourself to get more done than your body is allowing. Know there will be a time (it might be years from now) that you'll be better.
I did do a normal full upper body routine myself. The program gives a lot of good bodyweight exercises which are good but if you have weights or gym access you can do better
there are 3 12 week programs. The second, called dense, goes more into shoulder stuff, but there is an optional mini shoulder workout in the first part as well.
How many days a week are the workouts?
3
Almost 2 years later how are you feeling on the ATG program ? I’m still in my 1st week I’ll honestly say my knees were feeling better after the 1st day or 2 but now I feel like my knee is getting worst. I the Peterson step up thing is really causing me a lot of pain…. Any advice ?
Ya i got advice for you. When you are doing the work outs, really listen to your body. I got the Knee Ability Zero book and he explains that the sharp knee pain is bad(of course) but the burning muscle feeling is good. When you are working out and you feel any knee pain what so ever, thats your limit, temporarily. Don't push past that until one day it no longer hurts. But hey, I'm just some dude. I'm no expert. Good luck!
When did you notice you started to get better?
Several months in it was significantly, noticeably better. Took a while in the beginning for my particular thing
Interesting that doing the Rogan program seems to have messed your knees up, when Rogan seems to have gotten into the KOT program.
It was a different program that messed up my knees, it was maxing out reps of swings and deaflifts progressively more and more on a daily basis for like a week straight. Not part of the Rogan
Been on the fence about this membership. After a few more days, how are you feeling about it?
It's slow progress, but there's most definitely progress. My condition, patellar fat pad inflammation, gave me basically chronic irritation, like the insides of my knees are all rubbing together constantly, and instead of having that feeling every single day, it's down to about 20% of days, and I feel noticeably better on days following the prescribed exercises. I can definitely tell it's helping, but I can also tell it'll probably be a while still before I'm doing knee over toe lunges with weights haha
I have been doing it and it’s great would highly suggest it
@@misho9626 do u suggest this if I want to be able to dunk
Hi! Josh What was your medical diagnosed??
Hoffa fat pad inflammation
Nice man!! Look after yourself. A friend of mine had to get a double hip replacement at age 32 as his years of playing serious rugby had left him with hips usually seen in someone aged 70+ 😱!!
Also, have you been to a foot clinic? Maybe you need inserts in the souls of your shoes? Could be a gait problem? Just an idea :)
Peace out!!
That's my nightmare haha.
I've never had problems of that nature before and have always walked straight and had decent posture.
It's pretty obvious to me it's just an overuse injury and I tend to believe most problems that don't require surgery can be solved through the proper ratio of strength, flexibility, and recovery.
Appreciate you checking in 😄
THP Strength is on top 💯
Lookin like a regular Minaj in that thumbnail 🥵🥵🥵
how are your knees now du?
Way better! Not 100 but definite improvement
@@JoshThrives that's awesome bro, it must be nice being able to live easier now. I'm in New Zealand but I'll see if he can do the program internationally. Thanks for doing the review and showing a couple exersices they actually feel really good.
@@TheEncouragementKid of course! keep me posted 👌
@@JoshThrives will do my fellow body functionality improver
How long did it take for your workouts to come? I signed up but I haven’t gotten any notifications or any workouts or anything
Well the workouts are on the website, but you should have gotten an email with a link to the truecoach app, which is where they send you the workouts
@@JoshThrives I guess I’ll just have to check again. I’m in the app and under workouts is says “your coach hasn’t given you any workouts yet”. Or something similar. I’ll check again on the website tho. Thanks
@@harrykenya5547 Just message the coach and they set that up. There are multiple program options
@@harrykenya5547 dude can u send me program i can give u vert code
How are your knees now bro?
Really good actually! I went skiing yesterday and was sure I'd fuck something up but i did great haha
@@JoshThrives good to hear!! considering getting the program, think I'll go for it since it's half off atm
Why the fyck did you make this video? 2 days in and review?
To explain my knee situation for the series of videos I made for months afterwards tracking my progress, chill lol
@@JoshThrives I did and some are much better.
@@kevinjackson4192 thanks! haha glad to hear it