Overdressed Vs Underdressed | Which Is Worse When Riding in the Cold?
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- When riding your road bike in the cold weather, choosing the wrong clothing can seriously affect your enjoyment and your performance! Overdress and you'll be toasty when you set off but quickly get too hot while riding, underdress and you may find you never get warm at all. But which of the two is worse for performance? Hank and Conor set out to answer this age old question with some GCN science!
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How do you dress for the cold? Do you layer up or brave the elements? Let us know in the comments.
I'm still learning this 🤣 Road is totally different to MTB had to get the mrs to pick me up 5 mile from home 🤣😂
I layer up but nowhere near the overdressed Connor. To quote Les Stroud, “you sweat you die”. For example on a -10 C fatbike ride I’ll wear a long sleeve mid weight wool base layer, a soft shell jacket with vents, fuzzy insulated bib tights, wind pants, a buff for neck warmth, wool toque, snowboard helmet, bar mitts, and light liner gloves that I can remove when hands get too hot. On the feet I’ll wear wool socks, Lake mxz303 boots, and can turn on thermacell heated insoles if I get cold. I like to start out cool and work to stay warm rather than risk getting sweaty and then stop and be cold.
I add weather and gear notes to my Strava write-up. Then I can look back for a similar day and dress accordingly.
When it's -10C (negative ten celsius) and gusting to 40 knots, I'm lucky enough to not have to ask myself if I should underdress. I just put on as many layers as I can and hope I regain feeling in my toes again the next day.
@@bobbyotof Heated insoles. That's a great idea!
When I saw the video title my first thought was, "I'd rather be cold", but then I remembered the times I've actually been cold while riding my bike, and I quickly realized I'd rather be overdressed because if I'm hot I can at the very least take a break to cool off, but being super cold on a bike is absolutely awful and quite painful.
I came home with mild frostbite once. I'd rather be a bit too hot now. You can always open a zipper and ventilate
also unzipping, etc...if you layer correctly, you can always cool off and tuck away layers in your pockets.
Easy to open zips or strip layers off but once you are cold or worse wet and cold it saps energy and you struggle to get warm.
If you're over dressed you can always go sub sweating level effort; that is if you're not racing like these two
@@snaavs true, but you're almost never going to race in sub/near zero weather anyways. If you are, you'll still want to start with some decent clothing and strip off while getting warmer
A very encouraging video. Always thought I was just slow and unfit on the bike, turns out I've been either overdressed or underdressed on every ride I've ever done, hence my slow times and lack of power.
Underdressing when constantly moving doesn’t bother me once I’m warmed up etc. But when overdressed and I stop for whatever reason at the cafe or whatever and get moving again the sweat from the previous effort always makes me substantially colder when I set off again
I dress up in order to "don't have cold", not "to be cosy warm". I want to slightly feel the cold so no sweat is produced. With sweaty clothes you don't want to have to wait at a traffic light or a closed bridge or railway crossing.
I try to dress for weather a little colder than what I perceived to be the weather out front of my house. Point is there's a substantial wind chill on a bike so the important thing is the toes and the fingers. I can always peel off a layer if need be if I'm a little warm I can bundle up extra gear and put it in my jersey pocket. Nothing worse than being too cold on a ride and having to turn back and grab more gear especially if you're in a group ride and you have to tell your mates to wait for you while you go home. Conversely nothing worse than being overdressed and then sweating like crazy and after your coffee break mid-ride having to don cold wet gear for the second half of the ride. I always take a little more than I need either a windproof vest or arm warmers and I can peel them off if I need to. Better too warm than too cold starting off the ride.
I agree, but there's underdressed and Underdressed. 😂
The sweat from the previous efforts is the reason I would change my shirt in the course of shifts, sessions and other activities more times than a tennis player. Sweat must not be allowed to cool while a now seemingly wet mop of ordinary cotton shirts fuse and removed by peeling. An idea for future video considerations can remind it's audience that a back pack attack for mainstay runs is logically a wise choice. On, off, and so on. Though hardly not a newcomer a video for solo riders that your expertise can advance the efficiencies and logistics that command attention against consequential mistakes in possible confrontational surroundings. From flats, freaks, animals, exposure, and now the batteries are dead. A backpack, to even Safeway bags offer real life answers. I hope the production is a jolly good smash. God save the King. P.S. 'tell Harry and hottie wife for what ever it's worth, they're all right by me and i staunchly defend their union and the crown which they serve.
No need for GCN presenters to draw straws when Hank is on the team.
Think I need to take the short straw soon for poor Hank haha
Spot on! 😬
@@conordunne1 Go for it. Maybe 2021 is your year for a bit of punishment.
We'll never see Connor again, he got picked up for recycling.
Classic: Hit the climbs in winter training camp in Spain in shorts only to find the locals wearing the same winter gear you wear at home.
The phrase "someone's got to do it" should be replaced by "Hank's got to do it".
I always say ' a warm muscle is a happy muscle'
overheated no...
You say weird things...
@@kidShibuya No I don't, I mean when I go racing overheating will kill me. I'm using my legwarmers before start,. at normal trening I try to keep warm:)
When i used to race, my performance always increased in cool to cold weather. My peak watts is in 8-12 degrees c. And all my podium placements is in rain. It just didnt effect me to the same degree as it did many others. Come again in warm weather it felt like i stood stood still when the hills came around. 😂 I actually got a heat stroke in 26 degrees in Gran Canaria once..😂😂
@@kidShibuya Thank you
New on the Hank Torturing Network;
Hypothermia, the new EPO?
haha all for our entertainment!
Epothermia?
@@dlevi67 brilliant!
😂
When competing against Connor, EVERYONE draws "the short straw".
two things that can help:
1. 1/2 frame bags: makes it much easier to layer and then shed clothes (hats, gloves, toe covers, etc) ... vs . trying to overstuff your jersey pockets as the day warms and you start climbing etc.. (or a jersey with pockets + gilet with more pockets)
2. Logs. Keep track of the temp + what you wear + how you felt about it. Bracket into ~ 5 degree F / 2.5 degree C buckets and start to develop a layering formula for each bracket -- and then look at range of temps you'll encounter in the ride. This was the only way i began to get better at the layering. I kept trying to go by feel, but would always end up overdressing (cause i hate the cold starts) -- but this taught how to calibrate better.
Crazy challenge - I salute you! What annoys me about cycling, is that my back can be sweating & my feet & hands are dropping off! The pain of cold hands & feet (& forehead) can make you never want to venture out into the cold again!
My primary concern is damaging my fingers and toes. When your core gets cold, circulation to them ceases, so no matter how well wrapped up they are (e.g., lobster claw gloves and overbooties on insulated shoes), they'll still cool down. Frostbite sucks, and the damage is permanent.
don't need to worry about frostbite above 0'C though!
I am starting to think this was a way to show off all of GCN's new jersey's and shirts through Connor.
It’s a way to get you to buy all the GCN kit, which we probably all would if it didn’t require remortgaging the house
@@davidmckinlay425 decent gear can make a ride actually fun when you arent freezing your bollocks off 😂 DHB make some good stuff and it doesn't break the bank
@@jamble7k I’ve got eBay specials that are fine...200quid for Bib shorts should be criminal
@@davidmckinlay425 Mmmm it is just too much, how can a pair of bib shorts cost that much? Have they got a gold plated chamois?
@@merckxy54 no, but they have aero 4.0 in the name so you don’t feel bad blowing the cash and think you’re getting something worth more...and 4.0 is obviously better than 3.0
Under 30 years old I was very much an underdresser! Then it all changed...
Rather be warm and sweaty than freezing cold 🥶
I rather not waste more money for some clothes
After sweating, you soon start to shiver regardless of the clothing
@@rcs2003 ENTER THE ARENA ! MERINO WOOL !
latest attempt at killing Hank: HYPOTHERMIA
I think for a short 5K Id rather be cold and not sweaty. But if the ride got longer and longer being cold would be a problem.
I learnt the hard way. Underdressed and found myself in the back of an ambulance with hypothermia.
What were you wearing and what was the weather like?
I'm with you. Went for standard ride, while it was -5C, but was dressed for something like 10C. During this ride i couldn't feel my left hand and left foot, and right side started to follow left side. My core was so cold. After this there was fever, cold, musce pain, terrible lower back pain. Never again. I always protect my head and core first. If head or core is in danger, body always will try to save your life, and shut down blod flow to extremities. It's better to sweat little more, and be able to ride next time.
I'd also like to know
Boston Marathon 2018 is a good example of underdressed not being optimal
cool story bro
I'm a latecomer to cycling (started at 59, now I'm 67) and I hate riding cold. I'm in a hilly area and I find it quite a tricky call, balancing ambient temperature against anticipated effort.
The problem with wearing warm for me is the fact that ill feel really nice and cozy until eventually I'll just feel lazy and feel sleepy while riding lol...
This just adds to my frustration while choosing something to wear...
Hank deserves a hug. By the way cycling made me appreciate summer.
I go with the old adage "be bold start cold" generally works out
OK. But always pack an extra layer in Jersey, just in case! My other top tip: have an external thermometer, I dress myself according to what it says, gives me a good guide to number of layers to wear. Rarely get it wrong these days.
Love Hanks enthusiasm for life! #inspiring
I have made a table in excel with intervals of 2 degrees so I always know what to wear building on previous experiences 😀
I've been doing the same noting temp, attire worn and degree of comfort. The ambient humidity changes things as does wind velocity.
Better be overdressed instead of under, today i thought i was going to loose a foot 🥶
Same! I had to stop and get foot and hand warmers, still didnt work lol
"I wear absolutely I own"
Yeah, here we had -31°C during the daytime almost whole week. I wore absolutely I owned just for 1hour ride. Can't complain those rides were amazing!
I can't even imagine what that's like! Guessing you don't venture too far from home in case of emergencies
This is trial and error. I have ridden year round and had my share of error. You have some good solid advice. I always hated lining up at a cross race and stripping down for some maximum suffering. The older you get the more winter gear you accumulate. I personally overdress. Suffering is overrated
As long as my feet, hands and face are sorted then I can be in bib shorts and short sleeve jersey, so I'd say extremities are the ones to get right. I also think cold/dry weather and cold/wet weather would make quite a difference, I'd definitely want more layers when its cold and wet!
Always take a rain cape in your pocket! If you get cold or have a mechanical it's a life saver.
I have always worked on the start cold and warm up once you get moving. Best way to stay warm is to not get wet. ( not sweaty). If you overdressed and get sweaty then you will begin to freeze especially if you stop. Wet kit is always bad. I even take an extra dry top to swap over if I stop for a coffee and cake. That way you don't freeze even though you are in a warm cafe.
Poor Hank! 🤣
Brave man respect!
Starting a little bit cold is good and the key is layering with ZIPS to help regulate that body temp and release heat if you get warm.
Connor glances over his shoulder at Hank as they cross at 7:30. Probably thinking, "What else can we do to Hank?"
Those flapping bits of polythene bag will add quite a bit of drag and skew result somewhat
Yeah, I think you're right. Note that Connor lost 50 sec but only 30 watts which actually is less compared to Hanks relative power loss. But Connor still lost way more time than Hank. That has to be due to the fact that Connor due to his clothing choice required more power to move i.e. increased drag.
@@danielandersson3539 Exactly what I was going to say :^)
I've been cycling as a bike courier for 5 years. I layer up on my upper body as this is the core and does minimal movement when cycling. Over-dressing basically adds resistance to the cycle motion, as well as weight unfortunately. But what I've found, by March and April, I'm at my strongest probably due to the change in climate, but also all the winter resistance training.
It is always easier to cool down than to warm up. Opening a jacket zip by an inch or two maybe all that's needed if you are too warm.
Being too cold is dangerous and much harder to recover from, and if you get wet when cold then hypothermia can be a killer.
I aim for being just a bit cold when starting out, warming up to a comfortable temp, and then keeping the pace steady and the temp cosy. In cold weather I don't hammer down the road like Conor and Hank. 😅
Conor looking back at Hank at 7:30 made me laugh so much!
Bonkers! GCN please do a coverage on battery operated heated glove and sock liners under a pair of windproof overshoes and gloves!!!!!
Canadian here. I’m not crazy enough to bike in winter. As a runner dress to be just a bit cold at the beginning.
The absolute worst thing is to sweat went is well below freezing.
That sweat will turn to ice and then hypothermia
When deciding who does what challenge, I think it's about time Hank was in office when the straws are drawn.
Hank: "I drew the short straw." 😂 Kept it up! Always inspired by your energy.
The dude looking back because of the scream 07:30😂
That dude's name?
Connor
Yes I spotted him take that second look too
Ahahaha I didn't spot that
I’ve always followed the rule of 10. What would I wear if I was on a walk and it was 10•c warmer and that’s what I wear , plain and simple and works every time
So in order to decide what to wear before you go out cycling, you imagine yourself doing a totally different activity and also doing that activity in a completely different temperature too? That sounds kinda like the opposite of “plain and simple” tbh.
@@paddyotoole2058 in a sense yes. I imagine 10•c warmer and decide what I would be wearing if I was just outside only..ie 15•c = 25•c so I would wear my lightest shorts an tank top so on the bike I would wear my mesh back jersey, my thinnest shorts and anklets. -3•c =5-7•c so I would wear long sleeve with jacket, heavy pants (joggers or jeans) therefore on the bike I would wear a base top, heavy jerseys, thick arm warmers, heavy shorts, light leg warmers with merino socks and med weight gloves with rubber gloves for liners.
This is the process I use for riding and running for the past 8 years and has worked wonderfully.
Use your second bidon to carry a spare base layer, extra snood, headband/hat, liner gloves, etc. Small items can really make a huge difference to comfort, and you don't need two bottles of drink in winter.
Every winter group ride I join seems to have both types. I'm usually underdressed because I hate feeling sweaty and claustrophobic. It's also annoying if you're wearing something you can't take off while riding, as in a bunch as you don't really get the chance to stop.
"As a Canadian" when cycling in cooler to cold temperatures I try to start out where I'm feeling just a bit chilled and count on warming up on the ride. This varies of course based on the time of day heading out, the expected intensity etc. If I know I'll be finishing after sunset I'll wear warmer clothing. The pace also makes a huge difference as windchill vs exertion is a huge factor and why the fatbike is ideal for the winter. High exertion with very little wind chill. Add to that the extra stability and traction of the fatty makes it ideal for cold, snowy, and icy winters. That said as a Canadian I do much better cycling in 30c +, little warmup and I just do much better not having to worry about being cold. I am quite thankful for Zwift now, keeps me safe, dry, and warm even though I do the scenery of being outside
Historically (both running & cycling) I've always run very hot so have tended to go underdressed confident that I'll soon heat up.
Really got caught out once one brilliant sunny morning cycling from Manchester to Leeds in March when it was 0°C at the start wearing standard bib shorts and only two thin layers on top (can't remember the gloves). I got so cold with the windchill just from moving that I had to stop to try to warm up before I even went over the top. Then, with the cold at altitude and the extreme windchill at speed on the descent, I got so cold I had to go into a Tesco cafe to warm up for 20+ mins before I could continue!
The moral: don't underestimate windchill, altitude & how weak the sun is in winter!
Where is Si when you need him in his bugie smugglers 😂
Nobody needs that...
I did ask...
I wonder how the heart rate changed on your efforts guys
That’s actually helped a lot👌🏻Thanks chaps🙏🏻
I kinda did this experiment today and yesterday but in more moderate 60F. First day rode cold thinking it’d be exhilarating. Second day rode warm and was much more proficient and comfortable. I feel like it’s easier to regulate temp with base layer/light Jersey and unzipping/zipping/pulling sleeves up/down with a soft shell wind jacket rather than adding and subtracting layers but I’ll have plenty of time to figure out cold riding wardrobe this Fall/Winter in Maine.
I tend to wear pretty much same layers for temperature range between about -4°C and +5°C. Usually when I go out in these layers without movement I feel ok, maybe just a touch cold, then the first five or so minutes of riding I'm a little cold, but then my body gets to operating temperature and I'm feeling very comfortable. I always take with me second pair of gloves, which I can either change with the thicker ones I'm starting the ride in or I can layer the gloves up.
Gave up on this when Connor put on the bin bag. No one would over/ underdress to this degree. I race CX and last season wore shorts for every race, arm warmers and no gloves for a 40+ minutes all out, max power max heart rate effort. I would never dress to train like that- even less for a steady ride. Also never wear just what someone else does. We tolerate heat and cold very differently- physiology- geography etc all make a difference which explains why riders from Southern France wear leg and arm warmers and a gilet in summer when you’re in shorts and a jersey and it’s 19 degrees.
My daily commute to work is 10.5km each way and I ride throughout our Canadian winter. My coldest ride has been -34 degrees Celcius with the windchill making it feel like -42 degrees. I can handle the temperature during the ride as I can generate enough body heat but I always fear getting a flat tire. It is very difficult to replace an inner tube at those very-cold temperatures.
definitely prefer to be any thing but under-dressed on cold days. The most i have ever suffered from the cold on the bike has been on those intermediate days when it is easy to be very wrong. Wearing only a jersey and shorts when starting a ride at 50F and expecting it to get a bit warmer....then getting caught out by heavy rain and falling temperatures. The really cold days are easy - wear your warmest stuff.
before i started cycling to work if i didn't watch your shows all the way back when you touched on this topic i would've freezed or overheated to death on soo many occasions. i rode throughout the season and dressed for rainy, windy, and cold nights. it sucks to be in the rain or the cold BUT when you're dress appropriately its so damn frigging fun.
By living in North (Finland) and by the sea it’ll get interesting with clothing; temperature in Winter might vary several degrees inside the ride and there is always that wind factor. Always! Also my ”problem” is to get too hot.. (in Summer 30C or more is impossible and problems start after 25C) My club mates always are asking ”isn’t it cold” when I have Hanks wearing in 8-10C. So, I’d prefer cold start and putting a layer or two later on if needed.
Living in Los Angles means, “Do I wear the short finger gloves or long finger today?” 🤣
Having lived in Madrid for 25 years my climate temperature tolerance has acclimatized to a warmer scale. I now wear winter clothing once temperatures hit 15C or below. I totally get why Italians and Spanish wear what they do in Northern climes!
Being cold makes me cycle faster to home. So it's definitely an performance enhancer.
Yeah, but for how long/far can you maintain it especially in the humid British cold weather ?
@@aljaliah6868 you are right humidity cools you faster. But I think you can fare well in cold dry temperature
In 1C I wear a light shell jacket, marino wool undershirt, fleece lined bike leggings (Terry), and knee socks also in marino wool. GoreTex gloves and balaclava finish the look. It usually means I start cold, but once the core warms up it is fine
I find the most important thing is to not have excessive pressure points on the hands or feet. That means no double socks or tight gloves; windproofing is key. The warmest combo for hands for me I have found is, just some thick knitted heat saver gloves (£5 from Aldi) covered with Gortex over mits. The mits allow heat to circulate just enough between the fingers with the knitted gloves. Any other combo (most cycling gloves are no good below about 4 degrees) is either too thick or too cold. For shoes, I would go for a dedicated pair of waterproof shoes. Overshoes have never worked for me except when it's dry.
7:28 when the passing cyclist thinks there was a crash! 😂
Wonder if Ollie has watched this video, he might use it as an excuse for getting dropped again. 😂
I think Ollie will be twitching as his inner "Aero Nerd" can't take seeing Conor and that bin bag parachuting.
10 degrees Celsius where I live in Australia is considered a very cold winters day 😂, comfortable riding temperature is 20 degrees Celsius, you can happily just wear a jersey and bibs with maybe sun sleeves to stop the sunburn
7:30 Hank: GAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Other rider passing by : AM I BEING ATTACKED?!
Better is to live in a warmer climate hahaha
I'd be bored by a warm climate in the long run, changing seasons brings variety.
@@ViveSemelBeneVivere That variety is dying due to climate change.
You'd be burning under the sun here in the Philippines 😂
@@RoScFan Gradually maybe, but in the northern hemisphere there will still be seaons.
@@ViveSemelBeneVivere I was exagerating. But to my infinite anger and revulsion, Bucharest is already mediteranean: from 1 meter tall snow, now we get an average of 5-15 degrees celsius from december to february. Even ice skating rinks have closed down. Only 2 of more than 1000 square meters is left. I want to scream... I almost wantnthe gulf stream to stop and plunge europe ibto an ice age. But i still like summer so I am not at that point just yet.
One thing to consider if you're thinking of overdressing... wicking material is an absolute must both against the body and in the midlayer. If your clothing retains your sweat, the moisture will chill you on the bike, and when you take a break, it will freeze you out.
In exact terms I ride bike today and I love it!!! Cycling and nothing else
Better to be overdressed so if you are cold you'll be OK but if you get too hot you can take some off ❄️🔥
The temps are spikey where I live this time of year. The trick that I've found works for me is to time it so I'm almost home at the warmest part of the day.
Having said that, it is going to be almost 90 today. Yea cycling in Orange County, CA! 😋
Having done, inadvertently, what Hank did I will warn that riding underdressed might get you a ride to hospital. Hypothermia. Yes, you should feel cool, but never, ever, cold. Conner does have a point, but you must be careful or you will get cold as well over dressing. Dress like it is 10 warmer. That gets it just right.
love these father and son videos
It is always my rule of thumb to be better overdressed than underdressed.
Upper body garments are: Wool, Fleece, Shell
Lower body: Wool, Shell
A rain jacket & pants comes always a plus and handy.
For Oli:
Hank had an aerodynamics edge because of the tubercle effect!!! "The tubercle effect is a phenomenon where tubercles or large 'bumps' on the leading edge of an airfoil can improve its aerodynamics." And the goose bumps are exactly that :D
Another idea: keep dry clothes for the end of the ride if you’re riding away from home.
You can get out of some sweaty things if you overdressed, and bundle up to get warm if you underdressed (and didn’t realize until you were off).
GCN: This is totally off-topic, but have you considered starting a commuting/urban/transportation cycling channel? I personally am a big fan of racing, I admire the athleticism of top road riders, and I sincerely love road bikes as the perfect machines that they are. But honestly, 95% of my riding is me dressed in wool sweaters and khakis, riding around on bikes with full mudguards and 32-35 mm tyres, wearing a rucksack full of extra clothes and sometimes wine, dealing with traffic, going to work or a coffee shop, etc. I love how useful bicycles are in urban and suburban environments, and apparently a lot of other people have caught on to this fact in the last year as well. The vast majority of the huge number of new cyclists are in this category. It seems like a good opportunity.
Omg guys .
The experiences you are gathering !
So many to tell 😁
Here in eastern Idaho, my velomobile commute starts at about 5 degrees Fahrenheit. Even though I wear two pairs of socks, chemical toe warmers, and rubber rain gaiters over my mountain bike clip in shoes, my toes feel rather chilled about 15 minutes into the ride. At about a half hour they are fine.
It's funny when people say above freezing is cold. Greetings from Minneapolis, Minnesota U.S.A.
Coming back from riding with -21C I had the same thought! Greetings from Moscow, Russia.
Shorts + leg warmers and you are dressed for English winter. I wish I could do that! Greetings from Bavaria!
As an Ex Yorkshireman living in Australia I hate our winters, And would go out on a 16c day with at least 5 layers plus Leg warmers and thick gloves. Got soft or what. Was in the UK last May and was horrified it only got to 10c. Spring I thought you are kidding me. Just as well I brought my winter gear. Some of the locals stripped down to racing gear thought I was a bit odd. Shows what you get acclimatised to.
The bin liner brought back memories of watching people running on the treadmill before weigh-ins wearing trash bags in the Navy. And kids working out in them to make weight so they could join. So sad to know that this is actually a thing.
For a cold wheather I would dress a little bit cold, but I would add one layer on top. So it would be somewhere in between what you guys just advised. I have been dressing too hot and I had a autumn non cycling jacket on me. In 10 minutes I was super hot and because the jacket was quite thick I had nowhere to put it and t was a bit of a problem. One thin additional layer would be great to use or put in a pocket if its too hot. Comfortable and handy.
Good one, used to ride that road in the eighties on sunday club runs, interesting results, yes too warm is always preferable unless it's a TT then a bit of discomfort can be profitable. These days I just enjoy rides in the Dartmoor area to keep in trim, love some of the new tech that has been developed in my lifetime. Can remember crossing the Severn Bridge in a Blizzard in 1980's with four pairs of woolly gloves and still hands were freezing, these days one pair of waterproof sealskins and toasty hands, also like the waterproof socks and overshoes for toasty feet and clean shoes Stretchy neck scarves have saved me from head aches and stiff neck too, and extra length of sleeves on good winter tops.
Living in country with tropical weather is heaven for cycling
Being a fair weather cyclist I used the purchase of a fab new bike which didn't arrive until January as a prompt to buy windproof Gore gear . Totally altered my attitude to cold weather rides
Hey Up you two. I’m plain shocked by time lost when over cold and over heating. I’m a little suspect. 20 seconds a time maybe. Not 40/50 seconds.. That said. Like all my comments. I love GCN science so I’ll just accept it. Why bother argue. I get idea. Helpful. Proved what we know. Dress correct. I wouldn’t have thought over heating be any/much slower ????? Thanks again for trying the science. And never stop GCN.
I've had several underdressing never-again-horror experiences but zero overdressing ones.
Layer up and adjust, best strategy
In the winter I go for 1-2 hour intense ride and I want to sweat actually. So I wear a lot of clothing..
Blimey, mates. Its' very simple: layer up according to the temperature outside. The colder it gets, the more rider has to take care of the extremities: arms, hands, legs, feet, head, face. Those wind chills are brutal. But the trick is not to overheat.
85-65F: sleeveless, moisture wicking undershirt, bib shorts, moisture wicking short sleeve jersey, fingerless gloves, and a skullcap under helmet to keep sweat off the brow. If you're cold below 70F, pedal harder, or consider a long sleeve jersey. Riders peel off arm and leg warmers after they raise body temperature in first minutes of ride, a waste of time and money.
65-50F: bib shorts, long sleeve undershirt, short sleeve jersey. Around 55F, add non- fleeced lycra tights over the bib shorts. Around 55F, a sleeveless, fleece lined vest keeps the core nice and warm. The trick is not to overheat when temps or body warms up. Light weight full finger gloves around 55F. Heat rises. The non-fleeced skull cap that wicked sweat off the head will also keep heat from escaping and the whole body warmer.
50-45F: long sleeved undershirt, bib shorts, fleece vest, or sleeveless undershirt and long sleeve jersey, fleece tights, light weight windbreaker jacket--or long sleeve fleece jacket. Full fingered gloves, fleece lined skullcap that can be pulled down over the ear lobes.
45-32F,: moisture wicking long sleeve undershirt, bib shorts, fleece lined tights, wind blocking, fleece lined jacket, fleece lined skull cap lowered over the ears, full fingered gloves. Definitely add booties to keep toes from going numb.
32F-on down: Add face mask! Stay home.
Overheating is sweaty. Big deal. There's nothing worse than not being able to warm up.
There appeared to be some traffic lights not far from the end, how did that impact times ??
I ride down to the single digits (fahrenheit) in a non-insulated bib and non-insulated light riding jacket, heated gloves, and foot covers. Anything more and the sweat is just gross. 6 degrees F, 40+mph winds and after 15 minutes I'm nice and toasty. Anything over 30 I use shorts and a tee. I'm amazed at how bundled up some people are on a sunny 60 degree day.
My friends told me, "Do not dress for the first 10 minutes." NO. They were not suggesting that I start the ride naked! The point was to dress believing that after 10 minutes I'd be warmer that at the start. Dress for that point in time. I still haven't figured out how to do that
I’ve accidentally gone underdressed a few times in the winter.
My first winter cycling I wore regular tennis shoes when it was 15F outside with a windchill of 0F. By the time I got home my toes were stark white, hard to the touch, completely senseless, and it took almost the entire day to get them back to normal.
Then, this last winter I misread the temps and wore a short-sleeve with a negative windchill and almost did to my stomach and chest what I did to my toes the previous winter. These days I wear a little extra when it’s < 40F just in case.
im not sure im a newb. but I like wearing a modular kit no matter how warm or cold it is. Its nicer that you can just add things or remove them depending on the weather, And also the weather in the Netherlands is pretty random.