Been in the printing industry since 1964. I just love to hear people tell me that the internet is the best way to places they advertisement. One think that people for forget, when a person opens a newspaper, magazine, book or mailer the printed ad is there every time a person looks at the page. On the internet the is gone is less than a few seconds, and might not show up again for hours, days or never.
I worked as a pressman on GOSS headliners, for Murdoch's Sunday Times, W Australia, this Press was inherited from his Dad, he said he would never sell, but he sold out to the WEST AUSTRALIAN, now he owns most of the world's media, hi to all you printers out there. From Australia...
Gracias por compartir este excelente video,trabaje en un diario de mi pais y bueno ver como imprime la Goss Urbanite a la velocidad crucero,me trae muchos recuerdos ,esas madrugadas en donde la impresion tenia que salir si o si.
I remember when I first started in the trade they said newspaper is presses or dying it's a dying trade that's what they told me and I worked in for on and off for almost 10 years and if you know how to do commercial work full color there's always work somewhere newspapers will be cutting back and I think newspapers will be giving away free someday where they just throw them to your house I get one throw to my house every week every Thursday it's a local paper and it's free and everybody reads it
Started printing phone books in 1970 for GTE , loved it 1st ones to print red in yellow page’s in des Plaines Il. Then went to a book manufacturer and printed reading books, retired after 42 years !They stoped appreciating me for what I was worth:)
I went from flyboy to operator from 1972 to 2005, San Diego to San Luis Obispo/Atascadero/Paso Robles, CA. on 8 and 12 unit Goss Urbanites, as well as 7 and 9 unit Fairchild News and Color Kings. The in between times were spent on a variety of sheetfed and roll-to-roll job presses. I also got to climb around for hours on and explore a non-operational early 20th century 12 unit, 3-story-high Hoe letterpress sporting brass guard- and handrails that had been shut down in a labor dispute years before our press was installed. The press was still webbed, rolls in place, thick-skinned ink still in the fountains. In a time of powerful unions, they shut it down and walked out in the middle of a press run. When I first started printing it was just the first job I could find. I never dreamed it would become a life long trade. I couldn't believe the things those wild, insane bastards did. The whole trade at the time was like that; every one of the people I worked with either drank too much or couldn't drink anymore. Drugs were ubiquitous and no one wore ear protection, and the labor laws in Cali back then allowed for overtime pay after 40 hours, but not 8. Consequently, it wasn't uncommon to work 40 hours straight, then get sent home before OT pay began. I'm astonished that no one got flattened. Safety laws and measures were ignored, but nobody cared; that was for female orifices (the intended word wouldn't pass the CZcams™ Mythical Council of Elders® Code). Boy, were we stupid. Does anyone recall monkey poles? We'd climb down the pole holding on with one hand and gripping a 90 lb. steel roll shaft in the other. What idiocy. The terminology was wonderful; outside of the pressroom, if you said to someone, "After we mounted the new blankets, I went up on the balloon to adjust the trolleys so the webs would feed." they would back away slowly and use soothing words to keep you calm until psychiatric help arrived. I had become one of those wild, insane bastards when I wasn't looking. I couldn't wait to get away from the stink of ink, but a few years after retiring I found myself wishing I could stand on an ink-stained diamond patterned deck plate once again and cut color; or stand at the console, finger on the go-faster button as I yell over the roaring silence of the press, *"SAVE 'EM!"* When I left after uncountable trips up and down those cold steel ladders, my legs were as hard as that steel, but my knees were shot. It's just as well; I didn't have to watch the big, heavy Sunday editions, like I threw when I was 14, shrink down to the pamphlets they have become today; or see the presses that created them get cut up and sold for scrap because now the individual papers are all printed at one facility in another city. What a shame.
I was around a 78" sheetfed 6/C with Aq and manual fountains were slow and expensive with all the labor. You see all the boys jumping around adjusting fountains: that's what killed the hourly cost. Web speed looks good but labor is bad news. Thanks for the video Mat and good luck.
Basically why I'm the only one left running the web where I'm at. The guy who trained me retired, and I got it after that. We've had two people try to learn to help me, but it's almost a one man job now. Luckily, it's just a 5 unit King web so it's not really that big.
When I started in the late '80's, there were around 12-15 print shops that were big enough to have at least 1 web press around were I live. Now (end of 2020) I think there's 3? They all closing. Not enough work to keep them in business. Yeah, printing is definitely dying. Even the presses that are still around are getting replaced with completely all digital models....which are basically huge scanners/Xerox copying machines. Sad. So very sad. A skill that will eventually be lost in time. I had 25 years in the trade-for that I'm grateful. Learned a skill, met a lot of great people, and had a ton of fun doing it. Wouldn't take it back for the world!
I was a press operator at Mississippi valley offset in st.louis for 25 years till it closed in 07 great group of people I worked with. And one hell of a fun job.
i worked in newspaper print in the late 70s and all the 80s. working on harris and late a rockwell gazett(20 unit and 3 folders) wish i could go back in time i loved it.
Yeah, it gets in your blood, doesn't it? I miss it too. But the internet and recession killed a lot of printing. Thank you for watching, John. Merry Christmas!
I was a newspaper Pressman for over 25 years, yeah" I think it does get in your blood, I deliver papers as a kid, then printed them, must have been my destiny, now its pretty much gone.
@@jamoke59 Do you ever find yourself sitting somewhere, carefully examining a newspamphlet (you can't call them papers any more) for even ink coverage, tight color register (one of my old bosses used to snap at transgressors, "Registration is what you keep in your car, dammit!"), correct folios and no ink offset, all while explaining everything to a bored and baffled friend or relative? No, me neither; I was just wondering.
I'm nearly a year through my apprenticeship in web offset coldset lithography. I love my job and I find it rewarding and meaningful. I hate to think that the print industry is in crisis. I'm not sure that its all that bad where I am. I work for a major print company who somehow continues to grow. However, my hope is to apply my trade in another country in the future if possible. Is commercial print really suffering a major decline all over the world?
I’ve been in the industry for 38 years seen every change and my advice to you is to change careers ASAP - I love the industry too, but it’s a downhill spiral my friend.
@@ssnoc I used to think I would never be out of a job because even little podunk towns had a newspaper. No one's ever accused me of having too much foresight. I'm retired now, but the printing is on the wall.
miscible21 - Good name. Coincidentally, I had that word put on my blue work shirts shortly after I learned it from the solvent cans. No one new how to pronounce it at first, so they called me "Hey!" Have you achieved Journeyman, or did you move on in the 6 years since?
@@budlewis721 thanks for the reply! I actually used the name miscible when I used to DJ, long before my days as a Journeyman lol. Amazingly, I am still working or the same company. I have moved off the press to the CTP/DTP department. I don't consider it an upgrade to be honest. I had an opportunity to move to a digital and work on a Kodak Prosper set up for book printing. But the pay was poor in comparison to role at the time so I had to decline. I still love working in print and I'm grateful for all that it's thought me. But I am finding it hard to plot a decent career path. Or at least one that I'm happy with.
I work at a newspaper company in Chico, Ca. We don't have that many press man. I actually work down on post press inserting and stacking what comes off the press. That's really sad that that was the last run. I can't imagine if the ER were to close. I like my job although I'm young and have only worked there for a year.
@@AS1ANAM3R1CAN I did that when I started, and worked my way up to operator. We called your position "flyboy" (or flygirl, although we never had any) because of the flapping motion of your elbows as you square off the turns when they come off the counterveyor. It's been two years; are you still there, or did you move on to something else?
@@AS1ANAM3R1CAN Now you done it! You're in too deep to turn back. Even if you left, in a month or two you'd find yourself longing for the throb and vibration of the press through your shoes; and when you go out somewhere you tell perfect strangers about the mistakes you see in the paper they're reading. Of course, it'll look fine to them so they'll think you're nuts. Tell me... are you in a union shop? And with that name, are you a girl? Because both of those factors have an effect on your upward progress, although your gender isn't supposed to.
Most of those people were just there to watch as it was the last time that press ran. How big is the press that you work on? This press that I worked on was 18 units, 2 folders, and 9 RTP's. No automation either...
So, you are running 2 color webs and 2 black? It also depends how many copies you print too. Rule of thumb is one press operator per color web/other duty (reel stand or folder). So that sounds about right. Again, we just had all hands on deck for the last run. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Been in the printing industry since 1964. I just love to hear people tell me that the internet is the best way to places they advertisement. One think that people for forget, when a person opens a newspaper, magazine, book or mailer the printed ad is there every time a person looks at the page. On the internet the is gone is less than a few seconds, and might not show up again for hours, days or never.
I worked as a pressman on GOSS headliners, for Murdoch's Sunday Times, W Australia, this Press was inherited from his Dad, he said he would never sell, but he sold out to the WEST AUSTRALIAN, now he owns most of the world's media, hi to all you printers out there. From Australia...
Inky fingers for life.
30+ yrs in printing......these guys are straight Craftsmen
Gracias por compartir este excelente video,trabaje en un diario de mi pais y bueno ver como imprime la Goss Urbanite a la velocidad crucero,me trae muchos recuerdos ,esas madrugadas en donde la impresion tenia que salir si o si.
Long live print!!!!
Goss4High Amen to that my dad has worked at a newspaper now for 47 years and is still working.
Sad to see it end. Everybody there looks like my kind of people! 32 years in offset printing
I remember when I first started in the trade they said newspaper is presses or dying it's a dying trade that's what they told me and I worked in for on and off for almost 10 years and if you know how to do commercial work full color there's always work somewhere newspapers will be cutting back and I think newspapers will be giving away free someday where they just throw them to your house I get one throw to my house every week every Thursday it's a local paper and it's free and everybody reads it
Started printing phone books in 1970 for GTE , loved it 1st ones to print red in yellow page’s in des Plaines Il. Then went to a book manufacturer and printed reading books, retired after 42 years !They stoped appreciating me for what I was worth:)
I went from flyboy to operator from 1972 to 2005, San Diego to San Luis Obispo/Atascadero/Paso Robles, CA. on 8 and 12 unit Goss Urbanites, as well as 7 and 9 unit Fairchild News and Color Kings. The in between times were spent on a variety of sheetfed and roll-to-roll job presses. I also got to climb around for hours on and explore a non-operational early 20th century 12 unit, 3-story-high Hoe letterpress sporting brass guard- and handrails that had been shut down in a labor dispute years before our press was installed. The press was still webbed, rolls in place, thick-skinned ink still in the fountains. In a time of powerful unions, they shut it down and walked out in the middle of a press run. When I first started printing it was just the first job I could find. I never dreamed it would become a life long trade. I couldn't believe the things those wild, insane bastards did. The whole trade at the time was like that; every one of the people I worked with either drank too much or couldn't drink anymore. Drugs were ubiquitous and no one wore ear protection, and the labor laws in Cali back then allowed for overtime pay after 40 hours, but not 8. Consequently, it wasn't uncommon to work 40 hours straight, then get sent home before OT pay began. I'm astonished that no one got flattened. Safety laws and measures were ignored, but nobody cared; that was for female orifices (the intended word wouldn't pass the CZcams™ Mythical Council of Elders® Code). Boy, were we stupid. Does anyone recall monkey poles? We'd climb down the pole holding on with one hand and gripping a 90 lb. steel roll shaft in the other. What idiocy. The terminology was wonderful; outside of the pressroom, if you said to someone, "After we mounted the new blankets, I went up on the balloon to adjust the trolleys so the webs would feed." they would back away slowly and use soothing words to keep you calm until psychiatric help arrived. I had become one of those wild, insane bastards when I wasn't looking. I couldn't wait to get away from the stink of ink, but a few years after retiring I found myself wishing I could stand on an ink-stained diamond patterned deck plate once again and cut color; or stand at the console, finger on the go-faster button as I yell over the roaring silence of the press, *"SAVE 'EM!"* When I left after uncountable trips up and down those cold steel ladders, my legs were as hard as that steel, but my knees were shot. It's just as well; I didn't have to watch the big, heavy Sunday editions, like I threw when I was 14, shrink down to the pamphlets they have become today; or see the presses that created them get cut up and sold for scrap because now the individual papers are all printed at one facility in another city. What a shame.
Used to print the Cairns Post, North Queensland, Australia, running a UNIMAN 4/2. Key ducts, turbo units, tabloid daily. Ink for life.
I was around a 78" sheetfed 6/C with Aq and manual fountains were slow and expensive with all the labor. You see all the boys jumping around adjusting fountains: that's what killed the hourly cost. Web speed looks good but labor is bad news. Thanks for the video Mat and good luck.
Basically why I'm the only one left running the web where I'm at. The guy who trained me retired, and I got it after that. We've had two people try to learn to help me, but it's almost a one man job now. Luckily, it's just a 5 unit King web so it's not really that big.
When I started in the late '80's, there were around 12-15 print shops that were big enough to have at least 1 web press around were I live. Now (end of 2020) I think there's 3? They all closing. Not enough work to keep them in business. Yeah, printing is definitely dying. Even the presses that are still around are getting replaced with completely all digital models....which are basically huge scanners/Xerox copying machines. Sad. So very sad. A skill that will eventually be lost in time.
I had 25 years in the trade-for that I'm grateful. Learned a skill, met a lot of great people, and had a ton of fun doing it. Wouldn't take it back for the world!
I was a press operator at Mississippi valley offset in st.louis for 25 years till it closed in 07 great group of people I worked with. And one hell of a fun job.
It is profound that things are not what they used to be.
@@captainkeyboard1007 strongly agreed.
@@jasonrussell3252 Thank you for tapping or typing to me.
i worked in newspaper print in the late 70s and all the 80s. working on harris and late a rockwell gazett(20 unit and 3 folders) wish i could go back in time i loved it.
Yeah, it gets in your blood, doesn't it? I miss it too. But the internet and recession killed a lot of printing. Thank you for watching, John. Merry Christmas!
I was a newspaper Pressman for over 25 years, yeah" I think it does get in your blood, I deliver papers as a kid, then printed them, must have been my destiny, now its pretty much gone.
@@jamoke59 Do you ever find yourself sitting somewhere, carefully examining a newspamphlet (you can't call them papers any more) for even ink coverage, tight color register (one of my old bosses used to snap at transgressors, "Registration is what you keep in your car, dammit!"), correct folios and no ink offset, all while explaining everything to a bored and baffled friend or relative? No, me neither; I was just wondering.
Thank you for watching. Sorry for the late response.
aprendi algo de esas emociones de partida de los periodicos/nervios
Master water dial looks huge is that press still printing ?
I worked for the Philadelphia Inquirer 46 years, at a blink of an eye the internet killed the business
I used to work for a company called Newsfax, we used to print this paper here in the UK.
We have MAN unset 70 presses
I started on the whole press at the times picayune in New Orleans. My name is Matthew Otis
so does it still print the daily olympian?
Great, another newspaper Gannet left high and dry, last I heard Gannet was bankrupt serves them right
Run on brothers.
What became of the people? And the press?
that looks like an urbanite? I worked on goss metro and community presses for35 years!
I installed this press in Olympia Washington When I worked for Gross Graphics . Any one remembers my name?
Which phase of the installation? 1971?
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Half wide, doble circumference?
I miss those urbanites presses I put in about 3 million hours on the job to bad their like the phone booth that doesn't exist anymore
What news paper shut down
The Olympian. It is printed in Tacoma now.
I'm nearly a year through my apprenticeship in web offset coldset lithography. I love my job and I find it rewarding and meaningful. I hate to think that the print industry is in crisis. I'm not sure that its all that bad where I am. I work for a major print company who somehow continues to grow. However, my hope is to apply my trade in another country in the future if possible. Is commercial print really suffering a major decline all over the world?
I don't this the printing industry is in crisis. The newspaper industry is. I think print will be around for a long time.
I’ve been in the industry for 38 years seen every change and my advice to you is to change careers ASAP - I love the industry too, but it’s a downhill spiral my friend.
@@ssnoc I used to think I would never be out of a job because even little podunk towns had a newspaper. No one's ever accused me of having too much foresight. I'm retired now, but the printing is on the wall.
miscible21 - Good name. Coincidentally, I had that word put on my blue work shirts shortly after I learned it from the solvent cans. No one new how to pronounce it at first, so they called me "Hey!" Have you achieved Journeyman, or did you move on in the 6 years since?
@@budlewis721 thanks for the reply! I actually used the name miscible when I used to DJ, long before my days as a Journeyman lol. Amazingly, I am still working or the same company. I have moved off the press to the CTP/DTP department. I don't consider it an upgrade to be honest. I had an opportunity to move to a digital and work on a Kodak Prosper set up for book printing. But the pay was poor in comparison to role at the time so I had to decline. I still love working in print and I'm grateful for all that it's thought me. But I am finding it hard to plot a decent career path. Or at least one that I'm happy with.
Super speed
I work at a newspaper company in Chico, Ca. We don't have that many press man. I actually work down on post press inserting and stacking what comes off the press. That's really sad that that was the last run. I can't imagine if the ER were to close. I like my job although I'm young and have only worked there for a year.
I meant men not man
@@AS1ANAM3R1CAN I did that when I started, and worked my way up to operator. We called your position "flyboy" (or flygirl, although we never had any) because of the flapping motion of your elbows as you square off the turns when they come off the counterveyor. It's been two years; are you still there, or did you move on to something else?
@@budlewis721 I'm still working there. It's paying for my college. I'm currently almost an operator.
@@budlewis721 I've been trying to get an official promotion.
@@AS1ANAM3R1CAN Now you done it! You're in too deep to turn back. Even if you left, in a month or two you'd find yourself longing for the throb and vibration of the press through your shoes; and when you go out somewhere you tell perfect strangers about the mistakes you see in the paper they're reading. Of course, it'll look fine to them so they'll think you're nuts. Tell me... are you in a union shop? And with that name, are you a girl? Because both of those factors have an effect on your upward progress, although your gender isn't supposed to.
What speed was it actually running at?
We would cruise at 48,,000 IPH. Max was about 54,000.
@@matorbeckin double production i guess?
@@MartinFroland We ran collect, so 24,000 copies per hour. Single wide press, 2 around cylinders.
It is a fun job. Too bad the industry is dying. I am working at another plant and have about 20 days left... Very sad.
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YO TRABAJO EN UNA ROTATIVA
Yo tambien. Más que 35 años en San Diego, Paso Robles y San Luis Obispo, Cali. Buena suerte.
@@budlewis721 gracias mano
a tiny press
Goss baby 👍
So sad
Scott Short it is sad that the newspaper industry is now a dying breed the digital age is to blame for that.
Dust off & fire up that printing press !!! There's real news that needs print
all those pressman's for a single newspaper. We get shit done with 2 pressman. we are getting exploited SMH...
Most of those people were just there to watch as it was the last time that press ran. How big is the press that you work on? This press that I worked on was 18 units, 2 folders, and 9 RTP's. No automation either...
just 8 units n a 2 folder n also no automation.
So, you are running 2 color webs and 2 black? It also depends how many copies you print too. Rule of thumb is one press operator per color web/other duty (reel stand or folder). So that sounds about right. Again, we just had all hands on deck for the last run. Thanks for watching and commenting!
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