Let me rephrase: "WTF do you mean, this is not a german warship" if you still think its a german war ship, keep reading: okay so, a german warship on bornholm, with a danish accent.. and pronounces bornholm in danish... the plane was german. da.wikipedia.org/wiki/F363_Niels_Juel F363 Is the danish naval ship NIELS JUEL You absolute idiot too :)
mehunt pedbro my apologies I misread it. just like you did when you thought i didnt know german ;) Im not trying to trigger you.. if this is all it takes tho, pretty easy :P jk, idk you. i get the comment now its still silly. håber ikke du føler du blev trollet :P læste kommentaren mega sent :P
@@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haha second language or not, German English is still quite bad, lol. :P Ihr solltet mal diese dubben von Filme und Fernsehen stoppen. ;)
"This is your last warning. Do not open fire. We have at least one apple on each aircraft, and we will not hesitate to throw them at your stupid boat!"
"How do we tell which are navy ships?" "Turn north or we'll have to open fire" "Ooooooh, those navy ships, oh yeah now we see them, turning north, bye!"
The F363 failed to identify themselves. The civilian pilots had no idea what they were walking into and the F363 continued to inadequately inform them.
Astin Crow pilots job to obtain all Notams in the area they wish to fly. Technically the ship doesn’t even have to identify themselves. It’s restricted.....don’t fly there lol. The officer told them to leave and they kept playing games 😂
If you ever been on a ship you will quickly realize that Naval technology, civilian and military is pretty far behind. It has to be very rugged, some still use LADAR, real radio frequencies, and even Floppy disks if you can believe it. An outage of a system on a ship means death or a really bad freaking time lol. Equipment has to be rugged and easily isolated. And that's why Analog is far better then Digital, also for military equipment it has to be EMP and Microwave weapon proof which Analog systems are more durable against. In an EMP attack your PC, XBOX, Cellphone, and 2018 Nissan will be kaput, while the Military, and my old ass Pickup Truck will still be operating doing their jobs.
Nupetiet I have no idea, my job was to track aircraft and warn them off if they got to close. I just liked to be polite whilst effectively threatening to kill people.
Well, if someone were approaching you who was a potential threat, wouldn't you be thankful if they diverted instead of forcing you to shoot them in self-defense? That's a no-brainer!
The DA40 was most likely part og the training exercise, it's not uncommon for the navy to have pilots play dumb and try to penetrate their restricted area, as a rules of engagement excercise.
That would make a lot of sense seeing as I have never of a military unit threatning to fire on a civilian asset while in a training exercise. The Captain would lose his command at worse, or get a severe reprimand at the least.
Makes sense as that pilot wasn't fucking getting it. And the naval officer seemed to be trying to not threaten him until the last minute before he was getting to close
- Please get out of here. - What? We don't understand. - Please get out of here. - Why tho? We just don't get it. - Please get out of here. - But we are just training, we like it here. - We will open fire. - Yes Sir! Understood. We were just going, we are out right now, Sir.
@@birdbrainsolutions6112 isn’t that how the Second World War started? We’re just doing an exercise in Austria and Poland. GB: leave, get out now. Germany: but why? We like it here. GB: leave, or we will open fire. Germany: yeah, dare you. GB: we are at war.....guess the Germans figured that didn’t work out too well for them last time.
That threat to open fire seemed to clear up the confusion pretty quickly... weird. Might try that next time I'm in a shop trying to explain something to customer services.
"I've already had a bad day... Don't make it worse by not giving me a refund. I'll bring my Danish naval destroyer in this Walmart and blow all of you away!!"
pen mightygun nah actually happened in canada, US navy CV taskforce was floating in the north atlantic and got into an argument with a canadian lighthouse saying since their taskforce was bigger and had more forepower, the canadians had to move. What the guy is referring to is actually what they said : "We're a lighthouse sir, your move"
yeah, they argued the point right up until the guy goes ok well i dont care how many guns you have, i cant move... im a lighthouse... and people say americans are arrogant...hahaha
I like how this entire exchange was so much more civil and friendly (even before the threat of opening fire) than some of the recordings of the needless arguments that pilots and controllers van have also posted on this channel
ex59neo53 I bet he would've shot them down. Military navy ships are like feminists. Let me alone, j can do that alone, I don't need you, stop sexual harassing me by coming towards me... Like I said. Military navy ships = feminists
Brisdad, you are wrong: "United States Naval Ships are usually auxiliary support vessels owned by the U.S. Navy and operated by Military Sealift Command. They are *crewed by civilian* mariners rather than U.S. Navy personnel…" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_Ship PS: Jesus Fuck, that is literally the first entry when googeling this. bfy.tw/9pRW
A nice one, also there are detailed informations for flying in denmark available: www.flv.dk/milais/flyingindenmark/flying%20in%20denmark.pdf But this story is IMO a hoax, none of these DA40`s exists in any database. And I think in whole Europe listening to and recording of ATC is illegal. But nice story though. ^^
pilots and ships could’ve been part of the same training exercise Not uncommon for the pilots to ‘play dumb’ in restricted airspace to practice test the ship’s response
This reminds me of that old story of the two ships arguing with one another to deviate course, and after a long argument one of them turns out to be a lighthouse!
Geri Jokub to be fair austrians would have voted for hitler all the same. They welcomed the annexation of austria into the reich with open arms lol Also the real problem in germany and the reason why so many people voted for nationalists was the lost 1st WW, after which they had to pay enormous war reperations even if they didn't start the war themselves. (Which also was austria, but not with the intention to start a world war..)
If the warships had felt properly threatened, they would have opened fire. Yes, they were on a training exercise, but they are still prepared to handle a real situation should it arise during training. And plus, I did nothing to provoke you, so take that attitude away please. :)
There is a Star Trek episode where two adversaries fought a simulated "civilized" war. But, if you were caught in area that was destroyed, vitually, you had to report to a desintigration chamber as you were marked as a casualty.
Like hey north korea... cut your shit out okay? ... North Korea: What happens if I dont? Everyone else: We will simply carpet bomb your country into the 1500's... North Korea: Okay were sorry.
@@mdonau81 Rheinmetall GDM-008 Most likely. 35×228mm A device at the muzzle end of the barrel measures the exact speed of each round as it is fired, and automatically sets the fuse to detonate the round as it approaches a pre-set distance from the target. Each round disperses 152 small tungsten projectiles weighing 3.3 grams (0.12 oz) each to form a lethal cone-shaped cloud to strike the incoming target.
Merchant navy, ever heard of it? That pilot was sure confused but still, if he had the mission to fly there I would be rather confused for a second too why I could not fly there. Still rather unbelievable how long it took him
Před 3 lety+10
-"Go north or we will shot you" -"Ok, going north" -"Thanks for your cooperation"
I live in the Scottish highlands and next to the main underwater weapons testing area that our navy and other NATO countries use for submarines training/torpedo firing etc. For as long as I can remember, and I’m 44 now, the place, (called BUTEC), has placed an advert in the local newspaper and online to let fishing vessels or other boats know that certain areas are out of bounds or at least restricted during weapons tests etc. It works brilliantly and there’s never any issue - I can’t understand why there’s not a similar system that’s updated hourly or daily for aircraft in other countries. Military exercises are usually planned years or months in advanced and surely flight schools or civilian training places should be alerted when warships will be in an area used by aircraft. I dunno, maybe they are and this was an oversight, but it seems to happen an awful lot in places I consider to be “first world” with good communication links etc.
Interesting, never knew they did that. In this case however my money is on the pilots actually being part of the exercise in order to test the ships response to a restricted airspace incursion....the pilots just seemed a little too stupid with their questions, almost as if they were baiting a threat of force to see how much they could get away with. I'm no expert, but I can see this kind of training being required as it's not an unlikely scenario for naval ships to have to deal with.
*F363* is HDMS _Niels Juel_ - an Iver Huitfeldt-class frigate in the Danish Navy *F360* is HDMS _Hvidbjørnen_ - a Thetis-class patrol boat in the Danish Navy
Looks more to me like a permanent restricted area than a NOTAM activated one. I've looked through the NOTAMs archive of the FAA and on September 13th 2016 there was no NOTAM that activated EK-R95 or EK-R96. But you can definately see them on the the charts... On the other side, mistakes happen. These wannabe badass military ships (which are probably just training themselves) should have just telled the pilot to take a look on the charts (or GPS if equipped) and look for the restricted area... Not this "remain 5nm clear around every navy ship" bullcrap... How am I supposed to do that without visual markers (like the pilots asked, how do recognise them)... Funny, when the navy guy realized he was talking crap, he threatens with opening fire... Calm your shit down, navy captain...
They do, there are other NOTAMs published for this date (also for today, so I think they do have), Check out notams.aim.faa.gov/notamSearch/ On the left side you can choose "Archive search" and then put in date and designator (EKRN for Bornholm).
flying in restricted air spaces means if you dont leave when ordered to you will be shot down, which you should already know whats restricted space and not been there in the first place
flattire78 In some countries, if the plane entering the restricted air space is not an imidiate threat, military fighters will escort you out of the airspace and not threaten you to shoot you down. Especially if the restricted area is only used for training and not an actual protect-worthy area (like in the US, where temporary restricted areas are created whereever the president is). But every country is acting different in these regards, and to be honest I didnt liked the way the navy ship handled that.
I am pretty convinced that this was all part of the training. That said, the danish radio operator really should have started with identifying as a danish warship and that the aircrafts are entering restricted airspace due to naval training. Would have cut this whole conversation down to under 30 seconds without threatening to open fire.
It's funny how quickly the pilot identified the ships under the threat of fire. LOL "... or we will open fire." Oh, there you are sir. I will fly the opposite way now. Thanks.
That's the thing, they could be doing anti air training with drones in the area, you fly in there and next second you could have a SAM coming at your face. Besides the last time they did nothing to a small boat that got too close they got a hundred kilogram charge detonated next to their ship.
"But how am I going to fly my mission if I have to stay 5 miles away?" "LOOK DUDE JUST TURN AROUND OR WE'RE GOING TO SHOOT YOU DOWN!" This is what happens when the Naval Radio Operator is overdue for his coffee break.
+Neil Neil Yes, of course he was referring to that, what i'm saying is that in America, the army would just shoot you... it was a joke, of course it's not like that... What i don't understand is this, why only in Europe? American army don't do the same thing? Ask to leave the airspace? A normal civilan would be confused, european or not.
@@Mandorle21 Normal pilots are not confused when they're told to leave restricted airspace in the U.S. (source: am a pilot in the U.S.) The U.S. doesn't just shoot at you under normal circumstances, though. They just give you some practice flying in formation with a couple of F-16s. Granted, U.S. military air traffic controllers also tend to be pretty clear about the fact that you're violating restricted or prohibited airspace in the first place. They normally don't leave any room for confusion on the matter.
So many grey ships, if I have to stay away 5 miles, I can hardly plan my Mission, now how do a war ship would reply for such a dumb question. "You turn or else we shoot lol, oops, I now understand how to plan my route, Thank you for kicking my Brain lol :)
When I was training in Florida we were reminded time and again to stay the f away from Cape Canaveral's restricted airspace, but this one student thought it was a great idea to fly there on a soloflight at 500 ft to make some pictures. He got escorted out of there and was eventually sent home by the school.
The pilot said Sir a lot of times and i do not blame him,, being threatened to be shot down by a navy frigate would tend to cause that reaction,,, poor guy :-) F363 is the Niels Juel an electronic warfare frigate owned by the danish navy since 2012 and a very capable warship.
I am very glad I've never had to be in a position to either be threatened with live fire for doing something a superior told me to do, or having to threaten someone with live fire because they *might* be lying about their intent.
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"We will open fire."
"That's a relief, I was worried you would give me a phone number to call."
"We will open fire"
"You WHAT!?"
"WE... WILL... OPEN... FIRE!"
"Thank God! Thought you said We will marry "
No such thing as Possible Pilot Deviation calls here, just burning wrecks falling out of the sky.
XD
"I will poop in the howitzer and launch it at you! Don't make me tell you again!"
From what I've been told, for a pilot there's little that compares to being given "a phone number to call".
"Or I will open fire." Good way to stop the questions.
Neelix wtf do you mean dutches marines? :P also this was a danish warship. if you have to ask about the color of a navy ship...then you are dumb af
CyclingDane deutsche marine you absolute idiot. Deutsch=German. Deutsche Marine=German Marines
Let me rephrase: "WTF do you mean, this is not a german warship"
if you still think its a german war ship, keep reading:
okay so, a german warship on bornholm, with a danish accent.. and pronounces bornholm in danish... the plane was german.
da.wikipedia.org/wiki/F363_Niels_Juel F363 Is the danish naval ship NIELS JUEL
You absolute idiot too :)
mehunt pedbro my apologies I misread it. just like you did when you thought i didnt know german ;)
Im not trying to trigger you.. if this is all it takes tho, pretty easy :P jk, idk you.
i get the comment now its still silly.
håber ikke du føler du blev trollet :P læste kommentaren mega sent :P
1Noisycricket It is effective.
Hearing two preoccupied non-native English speakers talk over a bad connection is my new favorite genre of comedy.
that's aviation.
iscrewy English is the language of the sky
@@THCooking and the second language of a lot of germans!
@@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haha second language or not, German English is still quite bad, lol. :P Ihr solltet mal diese dubben von Filme und Fernsehen stoppen. ;)
Well, English to German
"Turn north or we will open fire."
"Okay, we don't want that. Turning north..."
"Thank you very much for your cooperation."
11/10 cooperation
😂😂😂 that moment when you realize you are arguing with a naval missile destroyer
Michael Robert priceless :D
Michael Robert I'd be more worried about a civilian missile destroyer!!
Why they aint war mongers.
Hahahaha. I'd shit myself. "Okay we don't want that. I will turn now, sir."
"This is your last warning. Do not open fire. We have at least one apple on each aircraft, and we will not hesitate to throw them at your stupid boat!"
DA40: Navy ships, you mean military navy ships
Navy ship: ...
"The grey ones?"
Ifly 777 I thought he was asking if they were armed and not just jerking them around..
All I could think of when I heard that was this dialog:
"You are in danger"
"Grave danger?"
"Is there any other kind?"
It does not have to be a military navy ship to be classed as navy. It could have been a mechant navy fleet.
could be merchant navy
"How do we tell which are navy ships?"
"Turn north or we'll have to open fire"
"Ooooooh, those navy ships, oh yeah now we see them, turning north, bye!"
E Richert Love this comment.
so the airplane didn't know where the ship is?
it's like walking into a restricted area without fence and ask, which way to go out?
NOTAM is a fucking big clue
The F363 failed to identify themselves. The civilian pilots had no idea what they were walking into and the F363 continued to inadequately inform them.
Astin Crow pilots job to obtain all Notams in the area they wish to fly. Technically the ship doesn’t even have to identify themselves. It’s restricted.....don’t fly there lol. The officer told them to leave and they kept playing games 😂
“I don’t understand”
“Turn or we will open fire”
“Ok, now I understand. Thank you”
"MAYDAY, WE ARE SINKING, WE ARE SINKING!" "Zis is...ze German Coast Guard...vat are you, uhh, sinking about?"
Nupetiet Omg 10/10 100% 😂👌🏻
It's classic ad actually: czcams.com/video/aOd1jIDCeN8/video.html :)
@Nupetiet lmaooo 😂😂😂😂
Hehehehe
@@Borszczuk Genius, I love it
Blah... blah... blah...
Blah... blah... blah...
Blah... blah... blah... open fire.
OK, we are out!
:D
Hahahahahahhahaha that's it
😂😂😂😂
LOL
hahahaha!
Comment of the day!
Millions and millions of dollars go into these military navy ships equipped with the fanciest of missiles, yet everyone communicates with potatoes.
VHF offers the right combination of clarity and distance. Sorry if it sounds potato-like to you but maybe you should clean the shit out of your ears.
@@dcorbe I didn't know someone could be so passionate about potatoes.
SHIBBITY BEBOP damn son
If you ever been on a ship you will quickly realize that Naval technology, civilian and military is pretty far behind. It has to be very rugged, some still use LADAR, real radio frequencies, and even Floppy disks if you can believe it. An outage of a system on a ship means death or a really bad freaking time lol. Equipment has to be rugged and easily isolated. And that's why Analog is far better then Digital, also for military equipment it has to be EMP and Microwave weapon proof which Analog systems are more durable against. In an EMP attack your PC, XBOX, Cellphone, and 2018 Nissan will be kaput, while the Military, and my old ass Pickup Truck will still be operating doing their jobs.
Hey, potatoes were used as money before.
German Pilot: How will I recognize these navy ships?
Navy ship: Yes.
"See those muzzle flashes... that's us."
@@SixDasher Exactly what I was going to say lmao
"You must turn north or we will open fire". That's what every pilot wants to hear, right?
I'd love to! :D
It definitely got their attention. But the most polite "I will shoot you out of the sky" announcement I've ever heard.
KCFlyer2 I used to add a have a nice day to my warning offs. Just because it is life an death doesn't mean you can't be polite.
James Erwin That's pretty standard for air traffic management, isn't it?
Nupetiet I have no idea, my job was to track aircraft and warn them off if they got to close. I just liked to be polite whilst effectively threatening to kill people.
"how will I recognize all the Navy military navy ships?" *THEY* *WILL* *BE* *THE* *ONES* *SHOOTING* *YOU*
Gunther Ultrabolt Novacrunch i think the idea is to realize inb4:D (and yes i know its just a joke)
Ha.
They're the ones with the pretty pink bow tied to the bridge... it's the new navy.
XD
Gunther Ultrabolt Novacrunch 👏🏽😂👏🏽
I lost it at the threat to open fire. All the sudden the pilot could see very clearly. New blindness cure!
F360: " thank you for your cooperation "
Dudee, you gave him no choice!
Well, if someone were approaching you who was a potential threat, wouldn't you be thankful if they diverted instead of forcing you to shoot them in self-defense? That's a no-brainer!
saved him some ammo
@@setles and an incident debriefing
Who's going to attack some little free healthcare passive Euro country pretending to military?
thanks for your cooperatatatatatatatatation
that was the most polite conversation ever spoken while threatening to shoot someone down.....
I'm sorry sir, but if you do not correct your course I will personally give the news to your widow.
I'd be happy to get shot down by such nice and well mannered people.
It was an exercise, that's why
Yeah, turns out you don't have to go full American to get your point across xD
@@MaxVliet ... to Europeans, which is why the US hasn't invaded Europe recently.
The DA40 was most likely part og the training exercise, it's not uncommon for the navy to have pilots play dumb and try to penetrate their restricted area, as a rules of engagement excercise.
What if a target drone was on the same flight path, and you were flying in proximity to it?
It would suck to be you!
Asger Jørgensen Your argument is actually highly possible.
That would make a lot of sense seeing as I have never of a military unit threatning to fire on a civilian asset while in a training exercise. The Captain would lose his command at worse, or get a severe reprimand at the least.
Makes sense as that pilot wasn't fucking getting it. And the naval officer seemed to be trying to not threaten him until the last minute before he was getting to close
Asger Jørgensen Mind blown. It seems so obvious now that you say it but it didn't cross my mind at all.
“Thank you for your cooperation” 😂
“Thank you for not making me go through all the paperwork to explain why we shot you down.”
2:24 "If I have to do that, I can't plan my mission" ... 2:39: New mission planned
- Please get out of here.
- What? We don't understand.
- Please get out of here.
- Why tho? We just don't get it.
- Please get out of here.
- But we are just training, we like it here.
- We will open fire.
- Yes Sir! Understood. We were just going, we are out right now, Sir.
"Understandable, have a great day."
"Thank you for your cooperation :)"
That's exactly what happened
@@birdbrainsolutions6112 isn’t that how the Second World War started? We’re just doing an exercise in Austria and Poland. GB: leave, get out now. Germany: but why? We like it here. GB: leave, or we will open fire. Germany: yeah, dare you. GB: we are at war.....guess the Germans figured that didn’t work out too well for them last time.
@@virginiaviola5097 Maybe, I'm not really a history person
That threat to open fire seemed to clear up the confusion pretty quickly... weird.
Might try that next time I'm in a shop trying to explain something to customer services.
"Give me my refund immediately or I will open fire"
Hard for me to threaten customer services when they are all the way in india...
That's not true. They are American. They said so themselves!
"I've already had a bad day... Don't make it worse by not giving me a refund. I'll bring my Danish naval destroyer in this Walmart and blow all of you away!!"
Poo Face That's just weird!
What the hell made you post something like that... seriously?
Navy: "Turn north or we will open fire"
Pilot: "Understandable, have a nice day"
"Turn north or we will open fire."
"Okay, sir, we don't want that-"
"You don't want to turn north?? Okay, you were warned."
Threatens pilot with "opening fire"
Later thanks him for his cooperation
Understandable. Too many reports to file if he actually has to open fire.
Good thing he cooperated.
So? He could have not cooperated and forced them to shoot him down. Of course he's going to thank him for not forcing him to do that. Duh!
@@falcon759 those missiles are expensive.
Reminds of..
"We are American naval warship *** You will alter your course, Sir"
"American naval warship *** I am a lighthouse, Sir. Your move"
Drew Layton I've heard that with several different countries ships, old but still a funny one.
pen mightygun nah actually happened in canada, US navy CV taskforce was floating in the north atlantic and got into an argument with a canadian lighthouse saying since their taskforce was bigger and had more forepower, the canadians had to move. What the guy is referring to is actually what they said : "We're a lighthouse sir, your move"
yes, and i heard the same joke but it happened at Gibraltar. i think it's a joke, but i'm not sure either :D
Samuel Ferris literally never happened. Don't spread lies.
yeah, they argued the point right up until the guy goes ok well i dont care how many guns you have, i cant move... im a lighthouse... and people say americans are arrogant...hahaha
I like how this entire exchange was so much more civil and friendly (even before the threat of opening fire) than some of the recordings of the needless arguments that pilots and controllers van have also posted on this channel
"How can I recognize navy ships?"
The most hilarious conversation I've ever heard 🤣🤣🤣🤣
We'll be the ship with the Village People singing and dancing on the port side.
Rule n°1 in that case : always be polite with warships :)
Indeed!
Or F-16s over DC. Yep... I learned that
ex59neo53 I bet he would've shot them down. Military navy ships are like feminists. Let me alone, j can do that alone, I don't need you, stop sexual harassing me by coming towards me...
Like I said. Military navy ships = feminists
Unless you are a submarine
ex59neo53 or just insult them and crash your plane in one of their ship.
"You mean MILITARY navy ships?"
Had me for a moment there too, but I guess he wanted to clarify it against a 'merchant' navy vessel perhaps?
No, the rainbow and sugar coated navy ships.
Get the fuck out of there before the Imperial Navy regulates airspace!
There is a difference between Navy warships (manned by soldiers) and civilian Navy ships (support vessels manned by civilians)!
Brisdad, you are wrong:
"United States Naval Ships are usually auxiliary support vessels owned by the U.S. Navy and operated by Military Sealift Command. They are *crewed by civilian* mariners rather than U.S. Navy personnel…"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Naval_Ship
PS: Jesus Fuck, that is literally the first entry when googeling this.
bfy.tw/9pRW
When he said “military ships are the grey ones?” I burst out laughing
Plane: "We aren't really sure what's going on."
Ship: "Turn North or we'll kill you."
Plane: "oh"
:P
Make sure to take maps, charts and NOTAMs with you guys when flying... =S
And body armor.
I guess body armor isnt very affective, when your DA40 get hit by a RIM-66 xD
Its RIM-162 those frigates are packing.
A nice one, also there are detailed informations for flying in denmark available: www.flv.dk/milais/flyingindenmark/flying%20in%20denmark.pdf
But this story is IMO a hoax, none of these DA40`s exists in any database. And I think in whole Europe listening to and recording of ATC is illegal.
But nice story though. ^^
JBMP in Germany it's also not allowed
"5 miles from any navy ship?? HOW WILL I DO ANY MISSIONS AT ALL?!?"
"turn north or we will open fire"
"You know what? I'm turning north"
pilots and ships could’ve been part of the same training exercise
Not uncommon for the pilots to ‘play dumb’ in restricted airspace to practice test the ship’s response
@@dylan-nguyen that's quite the recon mission "go fly near them see what they do"
@@liquidthex it's to practice the proper naval response for entering restricted airspace
here is an example m.czcams.com/video/IgL5jOypOQ8/video.html
"Sorry for causing any trouble"
...
"Unforgiveable, launching missile."
DEPTN: You are interrupting my VFR mission.
F363 (Armed Grey Military Navy Ship): That is correct
Amazing how quickly the Diamonds understood instructions, once the words FIRE ON was verbalized!
This reminds me of that old story of the two ships arguing with one another to deviate course, and after a long argument one of them turns out to be a lighthouse!
Why? Its nothing like that story.
Also that story is bullshit, never happened
@@ICrazySkills random youtube commenters are the best story tellers of all time
@@ICrazySkills ... it is a story
Multiple TV spots used that story:
czcams.com/video/KvRYd8U7qGY/video.html
Neither of them knows what the other is saying AT ALL, yet they both understood intention perfectly....the military in a nutshell
Navy: You must stay 5nm (9.62km) from any Navy ship.
Also Navy: Paints ships grey to blend in with the environment and remain hidden.
"You will be fired upon" a phrase understood Globally. 😉
The whole encounter sounded like a delightful variation of the naval battleship vs the lighthouse joke. :D
that one time germany didn't want to start a war
Gamer Roemer Austria started both world wars.
Change my mind.
Leonard Longen my farts smell funny
Leonard Longen the first for sure second probably not ^^
Gamer Roemer uhm...naja...egal.
Geri Jokub to be fair austrians would have voted for hitler all the same. They welcomed the annexation of austria into the reich with open arms lol
Also the real problem in germany and the reason why so many people voted for nationalists was the lost 1st WW, after which they had to pay enormous war reperations even if they didn't start the war themselves. (Which also was austria, but not with the intention to start a world war..)
"We will open fire"
"Okay Sir, we don't want that"
Smart pilot reaction!
:D
I would have flown over the ships and ended up on the news
You wouldn't be alive to see it. They would have swatted you out of the sky before you came within 2 miles.
Justin Weinberg Bullshit. That was just a training.
If the warships had felt properly threatened, they would have opened fire. Yes, they were on a training exercise, but they are still prepared to handle a real situation should it arise during training. And plus, I did nothing to provoke you, so take that attitude away please. :)
Dubious Russia does that crap to US warships frequently enough I am baffled why we haven't blown them too the moon.
Bryan Springborn Maybe because the Russian incidents happen in international airspace.
Imagine if wars were fought by words only..
Thomas H World Debate 1
Women would dominate
There is a Star Trek episode where two adversaries fought a simulated "civilized" war. But, if you were caught in area that was destroyed, vitually, you had to report to a desintigration chamber as you were marked as a casualty.
Like hey north korea... cut your shit out okay? ... North Korea: What happens if I dont? Everyone else: We will simply carpet bomb your country into the 1500's... North Korea: Okay were sorry.
Koreans would live a better life in 1500s than today.
I like when he very politely encourages him to turn by saying he will open fire. Then the polite thank you for your cooperation.
"Mum can I have a PS4?"
"No."
"Buy me that PS4 or I will open fire."
"Here's your new PS4!"
MrMoritz' happens quite a lot in the USA
Lol
that did happend in amerika /
MrMoritz' That's just fucked up.
A real live story proudly brought to u by US Gov.
Excuse me umm F360 what are you sinking about?
Bailey Davis hahaah
""We are Sinking, i repeat,we are Sinking. F360 over"
Bailey Davis who is mojo
And also: sis is dschörmen kohstgahrd spihking!
It's it a German ship, so that one doesn't apply.
Well if he hadn't flown North the Navy ships could've gotten some real practice!
Don't worry, they'll be getting lots of practice when they bring democracy to another middle east country.
Eh... I don't know about _that_ - the Danish navy won't bring anything to anyone if you ask me.
Clipper1094 Hahahaha 😂😂😂😂 aced it, thank you for that comment.
Oh, they brought some trouble to their northern neighbor (that's Sweden) some years ago, so it's not entirely impossible.
"Navy ships you mean military navy ships?" Nah mate these here are fishing vessels, we're trying to get some elusive cod.
Yeah, better stay clear of them, you might scare all the fish away.
This is encouraging, hearing a potentially heated and difficult situation resolved amicably and with civility. Good post.
Welcome to Europe ;)
Sorry F360 I can not see your Grey Sheeip just red tracers from the 40mm cannon...
76mm, 2*12,7mm and stinger.
@@mdonau81 Rheinmetall GDM-008 Most likely. 35×228mm
A device at the muzzle end of the barrel measures the exact speed of each round as it is fired, and automatically sets the fuse to detonate the round as it approaches a pre-set distance from the target. Each round disperses 152 small tungsten projectiles weighing 3.3 grams (0.12 oz) each to form a lethal cone-shaped cloud to strike the incoming target.
You had me at "open fire".
Naval officer: "go north or we will open fire!"
Pilot: "Ok, no more questions from me, bye!"
"You mean military navy ships?"
Nah, the kids toy kind. Your all good.
SAVAGE
Merchant navy, ever heard of it? That pilot was sure confused but still, if he had the mission to fly there I would be rather confused for a second too why I could not fly there. Still rather unbelievable how long it took him
-"Go north or we will shot you"
-"Ok, going north"
-"Thanks for your cooperation"
This is foxtrot uh 3 uh 6 uh 3 uh
Pilot: How will I recognise all the navy military ships?
Navy ship: *opens fire*
Pilot: Now I see you...
I live in the Scottish highlands and next to the main underwater weapons testing area that our navy and other NATO countries use for submarines training/torpedo firing etc. For as long as I can remember, and I’m 44 now, the place, (called BUTEC), has placed an advert in the local newspaper and online to let fishing vessels or other boats know that certain areas are out of bounds or at least restricted during weapons tests etc. It works brilliantly and there’s never any issue - I can’t understand why there’s not a similar system that’s updated hourly or daily for aircraft in other countries. Military exercises are usually planned years or months in advanced and surely flight schools or civilian training places should be alerted when warships will be in an area used by aircraft. I dunno, maybe they are and this was an oversight, but it seems to happen an awful lot in places I consider to be “first world” with good communication links etc.
Interesting, never knew they did that.
In this case however my money is on the pilots actually being part of the exercise in order to test the ships response to a restricted airspace incursion....the pilots just seemed a little too stupid with their questions, almost as if they were baiting a threat of force to see how much they could get away with. I'm no expert, but I can see this kind of training being required as it's not an unlikely scenario for naval ships to have to deal with.
*F363* is HDMS _Niels Juel_ - an Iver Huitfeldt-class frigate in the Danish Navy
*F360* is HDMS _Hvidbjørnen_ - a Thetis-class patrol boat in the Danish Navy
“Thank you for your cooperation”
"we will open fire" that is a pretty convincing statement to end an argument...
2:30 pilot getting a bit nervous😂
Looks more to me like a permanent restricted area than a NOTAM activated one.
I've looked through the NOTAMs archive of the FAA and on September 13th 2016 there was no NOTAM that activated EK-R95 or EK-R96.
But you can definately see them on the the charts...
On the other side, mistakes happen. These wannabe badass military ships (which are probably just training themselves) should have just telled the pilot to take a look on the charts (or GPS if equipped) and look for the restricted area...
Not this "remain 5nm clear around every navy ship" bullcrap... How am I supposed to do that without visual markers (like the pilots asked, how do recognise them)...
Funny, when the navy guy realized he was talking crap, he threatens with opening fire... Calm your shit down, navy captain...
I don't think FAA has any information about Danish NOTAMs.
They do, there are other NOTAMs published for this date (also for today, so I think they do have),
Check out notams.aim.faa.gov/notamSearch/
On the left side you can choose "Archive search" and then put in date and designator (EKRN for Bornholm).
flying in restricted air spaces means if you dont leave when ordered to you will be shot down, which you should already know whats restricted space and not been there in the first place
flattire78
In some countries, if the plane entering the restricted air space is not an imidiate threat, military fighters will escort you out of the airspace and not threaten you to shoot you down.
Especially if the restricted area is only used for training and not an actual protect-worthy area (like in the US, where temporary restricted areas are created whereever the president is).
But every country is acting different in these regards, and to be honest I didnt liked the way the navy ship handled that.
Frigate 363 was very polite and worked with the pilot.
Frigate 360 only came on the net once with the shoot down threat.
Amazing how much politeness a couple of AA defence cannons can bring into a conversation xd
DEPTN: How do I tell what ones are military ships?
Navy ship: Afrimative, stay clear
“We will open fire” Oh I see you now we will turn north
I am pretty convinced that this was all part of the training.
That said, the danish radio operator really should have started with identifying as a danish warship and that the aircrafts are entering restricted airspace due to naval training. Would have cut this whole conversation down to under 30 seconds without threatening to open fire.
Yes, yes. NAVY warship.
Ooh, THAT navy!
You might be pretty convinced, but still wrong ;)
For details, refer to my latest comment on this video.
I have never seen a funnier comments section 😂😂😂
Every comments is perfect, 4 years ago you were all on point. 😂
Don't mess with a Viking and his warship.
"Navy ship? You mean military navy ships?"
"No, it's civilian navy ships."
To be fair he was probably thinking of the merchant navy
Yes , for your information "civilian" navy is called merchant navy......
Great work with the maps! :)
"Who says I have to turn right?!"
"I do. And I back my argument up wirth this gun."
"Turning now, appologies for the inconvienence."
Possibly the politest “we will open fire” I have ever heard.
It's funny how quickly the pilot identified the ships under the threat of fire. LOL
"... or we will open fire."
Oh, there you are sir. I will fly the opposite way now. Thanks.
He didn't. They said fly north.
'So honey, how was your first day?'
'A man in a ship threatened to shoot me down'
“We will open fire” has to be the scariest thing that you can hear on an airplane
Simply amazing . showing respect after realizing the outcome that couldve been
"This-a is-a war-a ship-a foxtrot-a three-a six-a three-a" wow nice accent
South Park nailed that Danish accent
I lived in Denmark for a while before, and many do speak like that
"'eloh mah nam isss" just trying to put my danish english teacher's presentation into words. Took 1 second to guess her nationality
its like they're lazy to open their mouths.
@WEMBLEYNE: Or too lazy to type out a complete sentence like: "It's like they are too lazy to open their mouths".
"Turn now or we will open fire"
Me: You ain't got the BALLS to shoot me down!
Always call their bluff.
"Please kind sir, put away your balls!"
That's the thing, they could be doing anti air training with drones in the area, you fly in there and next second you could have a SAM coming at your face.
Besides the last time they did nothing to a small boat that got too close they got a hundred kilogram charge detonated next to their ship.
This is the anti-thesis of that warship trying at night to threaten a lighthouse to change its "course".
"But how am I going to fly my mission if I have to stay 5 miles away?"
"LOOK DUDE JUST TURN AROUND OR WE'RE GOING TO SHOOT YOU DOWN!"
This is what happens when the Naval Radio Operator is overdue for his coffee break.
Only in Europe will you hear this kind of argument lol
Hsi-Ping Chu I don't think so, listen to some of the recording of the USA, we have our idiots too.
That's the case, in europe everybody are friends but then we also play around being independent countries and doing this shit. Is kind of funny.
Yeah, in America they just shoot you
+Neil Neil Yes, of course he was referring to that, what i'm saying is that in America, the army would just shoot you... it was a joke, of course it's not like that...
What i don't understand is this, why only in Europe? American army don't do the same thing? Ask to leave the airspace? A normal civilan would be confused, european or not.
@@Mandorle21 Normal pilots are not confused when they're told to leave restricted airspace in the U.S. (source: am a pilot in the U.S.) The U.S. doesn't just shoot at you under normal circumstances, though. They just give you some practice flying in formation with a couple of F-16s. Granted, U.S. military air traffic controllers also tend to be pretty clear about the fact that you're violating restricted or prohibited airspace in the first place. They normally don't leave any room for confusion on the matter.
So many grey ships, if I have to stay away 5 miles, I can hardly plan my Mission, now how do a war ship would reply for such a dumb question. "You turn or else we shoot lol, oops, I now understand how to plan my route, Thank you for kicking my Brain lol :)
abhayp9 the dainish dims specedie the ships so they also could be little boats with divers
...
When I was training in Florida we were reminded time and again to stay the f away from Cape Canaveral's restricted airspace, but this one student thought it was a great idea to fly there on a soloflight at 500 ft to make some pictures. He got escorted out of there and was eventually sent home by the school.
“Weapons hot Sir”
“Prepare to fire the feuersturmuberdunkeltotenkopf”
"How do I recognize navy military ships?"
"We will fire at you once you get too close."
"I just remembered I left the stove on. Bye."
What's the fastest way to get a plane outta your airspace?
"You must turn North or we WILL OPEN FIRE."
Let it be added this dude shit his pants immidiately after that last transmission ended lol 🤣😂🤣😬 I know I would
What a attitude change at the end. Ship to Air Missiles, always the great equalizer. “My mission?” “Fuck my mission”
It is good thing that things didn't went south during that time.
Hilarious how polite everyone is despite the F360 threatening to open fire. XD
Excellent English skills by the pilot and naval officer.
@@nemo-x No, why do you ask? English is not their first language. Imagine if these were Russian or Chinese pilots. Their English sucks.
“I won’t be able to complete my mission....”
“I’m Gonna end you bro”
Hahahaha
Well, the Danes win this month's award for Most Polite Navy, that's for sure.
A pilot needs to check for recent NOTAMs (Notices To Airmen) before EVERY flight. They are frequently updated on very short notice.
Thankyou very much for your cooperation under the pain of death
The pilot said Sir a lot of times and i do not blame him,, being threatened to be shot down by a navy frigate would tend to cause that reaction,,, poor guy :-) F363 is the Niels Juel an electronic warfare frigate owned by the danish navy since 2012 and a very capable warship.
I am very glad I've never had to be in a position to either be threatened with live fire for doing something a superior told me to do, or having to threaten someone with live fire because they *might* be lying about their intent.