iRacing Nordschleife Williams Toyota - DOF REALITY P6
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- čas přidán 28. 04. 2020
- Running a practice lap at Nordschleife with the Williams Toyota
5:30 approx lap time
DOF Reality P6 Motion Platform
Cube Controls Formula Pro (USB) Wheel
Fanatec V3 Inverted Pedals - Zábava
Awesome driving !! And a lovely little setup too..
Now, that's A HOT LAP! Amazing
Tidy lap mate! 😎 Love the ring
What I want to know is: If you crash, does it eject you from the seat and throw you across the room for more realism?
I would rather have a seat which flips over in real time, sideways, or lift off up backwards, like a Mercedes, all belts attached..
It does. This is his twin playing. The other one died
I like the dynamics of this platform. Not to much travel but quick.
This is the best VR video on youtube.
I subbed in hopes for more content. Nice Rig
Amazing!!!
Hey! I just bought mine and was wondering what chair are you using? And I have seen quite a few videos where people have to mod their chair to work, did you have to do this with yours?
Just a regular NRG chair. Pretty much bolts right to the DOF frame
@@Staracer Ok thanks for the fast reply! I tried to use the chair from my old static sim but the mounting brackets would not work so I will look into a NRG chair! Thanks again!
@@Staracer actually do you know what bracket u used?
@@Cartoon91 whatever comes with the chair. Just the two side pieces
I use an RS9 seat from GT Omega. The DOF kit came with small brackets to mount the seat. My seat bolted straight on.
Fantastic! I have a couple of questions about your VR setup. Are you just using the lighthouses for tracking without the use of a Vive tracker? If so, do you notice any exaggerated motion due to the motion rig? I have a H6 on order and I have read differing opinions on this. Any info would be appreciated!
Would also love to know the answer to this. Are you using any kind of motion compensation with this setup?
yea would love to know too
Answer please!
I find with the valve there is no need for motion compensation. The lighthouses are tracking me as they usually would from two corners of the room, yes.
I want this motion rig and those pedals, but I was worried the pedals would be to heavy (14kg/30lb)
Love the rig, how do you like it? Are you running the actuators in the 1st or second position (max or min articulation). Also how's the response, looks pretty instant from the video but do you notice any delay?
No delay. It is pretty great when you dial it in. Takes time to get it just right though
Did u do anything to boost the response time? It seams faster than all the other P3 vids I’ve seen.
@@lewisgordon1490 Settings are show in 5:45. Seems pretty much maxed out for this hardware.
Jamie - I am about to pull the trigger on a P6; at the end of the day is there any reason you would not now buy it? I understand the general pluses and minuses. Also if you don’t mind, which NRG seat are you using? They seem to get mixed reviews. Thanks. Bruce
No I still love it. Can't remember the seat model. There usually is a skinny seat and a fatter seat. Both work on this rig.
Wonderful!!!
How to buy and how much does it cost?
Note the fan!
Crazy shit. :-)
Nice system. How do you feel about rigidity of the wheel mount? As far as I know the worst part of DOF Reality setup is that the wheel stand has a bit too weak support and it moves relative to your seat if you push or pull the wheel - how do you feel that part and have you done any modifications for it? (They sell center support bar for the mount but that would have to say between your legs which is not optimal.)
I corrected that issue with my own design. Look on DOF REALITY Facebook here: facebook.com/groups/1858593921047822/permalink/2607624916144715/
I also run a different wheelbase now, the Simucube Ultimate.
Just earned a sub!
How has the P6 been over the past year or so? I just placed an order for the P3 and will probably upgrade in a year or so.
How’d your p3 hold up? Thinking of getting a p3 soon
@@SosaKinkos Excellent, so far. Haven't raced much since the summer but it still works as it did when new. Never did get the P6 upgrade maybe this year, we'll see. Don't think you'll be disappointed as it now come with the upgraded gearing and a better wheel mount plate.
@@naxalar have the drawbacks with some inverted forces at times and the low center of rotation ever really put you down? I’m a perfectionist, as I’ve read more and more, the surge on the p6 models seems to be the most important factor. Especially with the braking you see a lot of people’s head snap backwards, then forwards when braking. Whereas with surge, when you brake, it’s not only leaning down but also pulling back to push your body forward negating that initial inverted force you feel
I love the motion, but I feel it would be a better experience if your headset was in fix position in game, so as your getting moved around by the rig it's not throwing your head around the cockpit like you've got no seat belts on? I run Windows Mixed Reality for my VR and I always set it to a seated position, and I'm currently running a seat mover......... Body moves around outside the sim to simulate car moving around but in game I'm strapped into the race seat ........ Do you know what I mean?
Hey there, thanks for the video!!! Now I got a question, gets me perplex... on some videos, I saw on the same P6 system DAMPERS, here missing on your system. They would be 3 of 'em, each between motors up to chassis (I see your screws popping out where their head should be fixed). That pointed me out a second point: the rods of yours are more middle-base mounted instead of the more outer sides, not sure if it's clear what I'm point at..... Did they changed the system over time? TIA
Ya they did change. I did get the dampers and the mounts but found it too rigid and hard on the motors with the gas dampers. I did however leave the rods mounted toward the center. I have had no issues.
@@Staracer excellent, thanks for your fast and kind answer :-) Can't wait to get mine in a few month, I might post a video too, but there's quiet a lot around already :-) Again, many thanks, and have fun, stay healthy ;-) Cheers
Nice video!
I have a P6 as well, but I’ve had issues with he front left wheel support bar hitting the front left motor. How is your clearance there?
Also, I added the dampeners, but am thinking about removing them.
Thanks again!
I had to cut the bottom tip off of mine on the front right. They definitely require some handiwork
They said on the website that dampeners are not compatible with p6
@@squid11160 for the P6 they use struts
Hey bro great vid, are you still using it? If so how are you finding it
do you feel like the DOF system is solid enough? Thats my only concern is the tube looks very thin
Great video. Did you upgrade from the P3, or go straight to the P6? Curious if you have a comparison to the 3. I'm running the H3 and love it, but the 6dof looks tempting. Just afraid to lose out on traction loss.
I bought it used but was going to buy the H3 new until I found the P6 locally for only $3000
@@Staracer Woah! That's a bonkers deal man!!! Insane find. Congrats. Can I assume you're overall happy with the 6dof action?
@@Staracer What's the benefit of having the consumer vs the professional H6 ?
@@TedPeterson run time
@@TedPeterson For home use the P6 has slightly bigger max movement range so it can simulate slightly bigger g forces. It has also beefier motors less vulnerable to overheating but I would guess that's not the limiting factor for home use.
I keep sharing this video when people ask which rig I have. Are you considering doing an update video on your setup and thoughts?
Hopefully soon. A few changes and upgrades already
wicket!
You have a really weird mishmash of components, but nice to know that it all works together!😋
Not so strange really...handbrake and pedals are Fanatec, wheelbase and shifter are Thrustmaster. All 4 other wheels are Thrustmaster....just got the Cube wheel in anticipation of my Simucube wheel base. I also just sold the Fanatec pedals and got my new Meca Cup 1 Pedals. I'll have a review on them soon. Sometimes it's better to get good pieces of each company's stuff. You end up with a better result more tailored for what YOU are looking for, not what the company wants you to buy as a package. Cheers!
Amazing setup ! don't you think the direct drive Simucube will be too "strong" for the P6 ?
OMG
Hey Jamie I am looking at this same unit but the H6 version, to save some money. Have you heard of any differences in use between the P6 and H6? I am really curious if the gear heads on the two are the same. I know the P6 has beefier motors.
Duty cycle is much higher on the H6 and the P6 actuators are larger. I'd save up a few more dollars to get the P series. Just my .02. I've had my P3 for about 1.5yr and haven't had any issues.
I think for home use the most important difference is that H6 has 17° max movement and P6 has 21° max movement. If the sims you use do not need lots of movement, you can go with H6. Considering that to get accurate movement for sim racing, where even basic sports cars can get 1g cornering and braking in real world, you would really want 50° max movement so I would assume every degree helps.
It is Aug 2020 now, is this still working well for you now!??? I was
thinking about getting one, I just wan to know about reliability. Thanks
Yes works great. Once in a while you have to calibrate the motors but working well.
@@Staracer Thanks!
Hi there nice content, where can I get this extract dof p6
How did you compensate the motion of the seat in the VR? Is there a tool that can be used with this rig?
Never needed too. Every movement feels accurate.
I just ordered mine just curious how do you get in and out of the seat?
You have to climb in....so think about how you place things outside. I use the right side to climb in.
The correct question is: Why do you want to get out of the seat?
Hey, is there any maintenance work / costs for longer use?
Sometimes I have to calibrate the arms on each motor but it's relatively easy. Maybe a few times a year. Checking nuts to make sure things are tight. That's about it. This is my old rig. Some parts are different now. I will post a new video soon.
Hi Jamie, I also bought a P6. I'm currently trying to mount the FANATAC V3 inverted pedals to the factory delivery plate of DOF. Could you give some hints how you attached it to your rig. Thnx. Koen (Belgium)
I don't have them anymore. I think I remember drilling extra holes through the dof mounting surface
@@Staracer thought so.. holes don't seem to fit. Thnx
Looks awesome. I have an MP2 ordered to get a taste of motion. But I can see me jumping up to P6. Is that the SRS wind kit?
Yes...I wired it into a hollow bar I got from a hardware store.
You took off the shocks? What's the consequence of doing that?
Mine never came with them. They were added after but I found that they actually were hard on the motors, so I immediately took them off. I like the way it performs without. Less stress, but that is just my opinion. Try it yourself as an experiment and decide.
why the fan on the side?..ive seen a few people with the same set up.
The 2 fans blow air, the power of which is relative to the speed of the car. Faster you go, more wind. Look up SIM RACING STUDIO for their gear.
Can you share the DOF setting profile?
Its at the very end of the video.
How are you, brother. How much did you buy it?
Its many different parts. Just the DOF P6 is anywhere from a few thousand if you find it used, to around 8k (CAD). Check online, im not aure about current pricing.
When you say P6, that's the professional, not the consumer? What's the difference between P6 and the C6?
According to DOF-Homepage the motors are different for more long-term stability and more running hours per day
Is it the HP reverb VR glasses?
Valve Index
Does it feel real in the car? Does the motion react like you think it should react?
Yes...as close as I could imagine a game getting. Well worth the cost but lots of tinkering.
I see you're right hander,try to use less force with right hand that'll balance the force automatically, I had the same trouble, you won't be left with pain in your right wrist at the end of it
Me shaking my hand in this video was not from racing. I had injured my hand just before the video. All good.
Does this work on an xbox as well, excluding the vr
No it only works with PC racing titles. It has software that runs with it on the computer as well.
@@Staracer OK thanks
Why dont you use the dampers?
They are too hard on the motors and they restrict the movement of the arms. Set up the sliders in SRS very carefully one at a time and you can get to a good place with the DOF 6 units.
Jamie Lizmore FYI-I talked to the owner of DOFReality after watching your video and he said you should be using the dampeners. Whatever works for you, though.
@@TechShizzleRacing Did he indicate why they are necessary?
@@bthull He had said they lessen the wear and tear on the motor.
What settings are you using in srs
Let me check
Send me an email and I can upload the photos. Cheers.
I don’t seem to get as much motion as you
@@shananpetherick1825 that track and that car are much different than everything else in iRacing.
Wonderful!!!
How to buy and how much does it cost?
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