Lilith in Myth and History
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- Lilith is a name known everywhere in the world. When discussing the so-called “biblical” Lilith, most people can tell you that she was Adam’s first wife. Rarely, however, do they know where this tale comes from. Nearly everybody knows that piece of the story and those same people know that it’s also not actually biblical. The story of Lilith is a fascinating one and it spans much longer than one would think. From ancient Sumer to modern day America, the Lilith story has evolved to the point where it’s no longer recognizable. Today, I will be discussing the origins and evolution of the Lilith tale. From its simple beginnings to its esoteric present, this is Lilith in myth and history.
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James D.G. Dunn, John Rogerson - Eerdman’s Commentary on the Bible
Edward Cook, Martin Abegg, Michael Wise - The Dead Sea Scrolls
William Dever - Did God Have a Wife?
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Talmud - Shabbath
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Jo Milgrom - Giving Eve’s Daughters Their Due
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There is a typo in the discussion on the alphabet of Ben Sira. The text is dated 8th-10th century CE. NOT BCE. Sorry about the confusion
I enjoyed this very much-Very well done. Thank you!🖤
I heard that BCE I WAS LIKE BCE ? & kinda was finishing up video & seen ur correction thanks for that & a informationsl show 👏👏👏👏
Lilith its not in the bible. I didn't bother to watch your video.
@@taato69 so you base your whole history and future on one book..written by man?
@@davidross4771 written by God but used a man.
Knowledge? Lilith's fault. Baby died? Lilith's fault. Husband had sex dreams? Oh yeah, that's definitely Lilith's fault too. Why not?
Lowkey pathetic ain’t it 😂
Yesssss! My thoughts exactly. Sheeesh! LOL
LOL
It’s usually a females fault anyway. Just sayin’. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Sexual frustration lends itself well to severe mental illness.
I’ve never seen a video that explain her in this detail, thank you cos she is just like Medusa innocent and was portrayed as a villain and a evil person
Medusa was monster by birth the story your talking about is from Ovid who change the Greek myths so yeah not the original myth
Start a Lilith Cult and charge 10% of members net income to join and play Lilith games.
Get rich.
She was a feminine deity from further back just as cernunnos pan
@@guillermoletsworkitout3522 Medusa was a Gorgon, not a Monster.
"Monsters" are specifically "monstrous" (aka non-human and Harmful to Humanity).
The Gorgon were non-human (always had wings and snakes in hair) but they weren't Harmful to humanity, so not Monsters.
Sorry for bringing the pedantic eye-roller comment to the thread 😎
@@JamesRichardWiley She is not real or a demon or spirit or devil or angel cast down or anything but the ignorant imaginations of the era there people lived in. Use your modern brain and logic, PLEASE.
Hi. I'm legitimately Jewish and a scientist and I'd like to thank you from the bottom of my Jewish heart for making the type of straight-forward history-based lecture-sort of content that you make, so that I can learn about my people in a way that isn't trying to sell me something- be it an idea or a philosophy or to spend an hour of my time watching the History Channel. Thank you for presenting knowledge for the sake of knowledge. But that might also be the autism.
Regardless, if you ever want to know how something is pronounced or the loose definition of a phrase at a certain time in history and how it related to the culture, I'm here. With nothing to do. Just west of Chicago.
Your approval validates me for another three seconds. Thanks for the power-up.
It really is hard to find good mythological history without that religious baggage.
Hi i would be interested to know how the Hebrew word for Tree is derived as I have heard that the word can also be interpreted as "council" or "group" depending upon which context the word is used in. When the story of the "Tree of knowledge" is told in the synagogue in Hebrew how is it interpreted as seeing as you are Jewish then you should already know that "Council" or "Group" is more contextually a better fit and most probably the correct interpretation with "Tree" being a purposefully used misleading interpretation.
Can you shed any more light on this and how someone with an understanding of Hebrew would interpret this text knowing the alternative interpretations.
I suggest you look at more credible sources
@BetterNotLayAFinger OnMyButterfinger Definitely no Alexander Hislop who has already been proven wrong. I recommend Bruce Gore, The Jesus Seminar, Dominic Crossan. Dr. Eisenman, Josephus.
Thanks for showing up on Steve's Rum and Coke tonight. You got me interested in this and checking out a well done presentation that I'd never have thought to look for otherwise.
Do you need a gram?? 😜
A story of a female demon that attacks children seems awfully convenient story for priest to tell.
Women were marginalized by men; men had sexual hangups. Jews, Christians and Muslims loathed women to the point misogyny even to this day. Women are chattel, bearers of inheritors, and food preparers.
@@trimerybroymar5618 what does Jesus tell us about woman? And why ?
@@Reginaldeus well, let us see a young Jesus talked back to his momma when he was found after missing during Passover shows how even a young boy had reign over his momma all because he was and she was only a woman, a carpet actually. This is a form of misogyny. I can give you more examples if you want as I can list 6-8 more examples of Jesus's misogyny.
@@trimerybroymar5618 Which one of the many reasons that I'm an atheist.
@@snafuthebrave1922 I'm an atheist, too. I don't believe in marriage and believe abortion is murder.
All things aside, I love mythology, it shows the creativity of humanity and I love it.
Not only the boundless creativity but also great insight into the world of the people who created/believed these things! It's like a little window into how people thought, what they feared, what they considered important, etc. :)
@@PaddySnuffles They have left us a legacy that shows us just how close we are to them in our minds. They feared desert demons, we fear bugs in the computer. We have environmental demons just as they had.
Blow my mind the complexity of some of these ancient beliefs... but I also get a hint that perhaps the local shaman/priest would capitalize on said beliefs.. by selling/trading the amulets/spells/incantations. Our first historic view of how fundamentalist religions work.
Lmaoo
I too, have a hard time with the complexity~!!
" amulets/spells/incantations".....yep...the religion made/makes money on the fools.....
*Religion was invented when the first fool met the first conman.*
_Mark Twain_
my path in life has covered many paths in faith.....i am a yahudah (jew) who has been many denominations of christian as well as almost 15yrs as a pagan (mostly Wicca but studied druidism some as well as native american lore) i love when i can learn more about things like this through others studies and would like to thank you for not only sharing this lesson on lillith but also taking all the time needed to study and research for this. i believe we all have our paths and hope your path brings you happiness and wish you all the best on it. thank you once again for sharing what you have learned and please continue to study as tim said.....study to show yourself approved. i believe only through study can we find our personal true paths in faith and life.
well said
I was raised Catholic, but I became fiercely curious about all religious wisdom or differences. Right now I just find myself losing hope but seeking solutions. Religion has a purpose for survival, but also presents conflicts in itself. I admire anyone dedicated to unraveling historical ideology. Thanks to the creator of this video.
There is a guy on here that debunked this
@@christopherbueno1580 I must admit that with a mostly absent father who spiritually told me far too much way too young I still lack skills at understanding men! My Mom and my sister were my World..and.then I had a son of my.own! This introverted introspective atheist adult child of mine teaches me so much! I really enjoy male perspectives on any issues, as it's good to be both different and similarly curious at the same time.
@@artbylisawoohouse I'm merely saying that this story of her being Adam's first wife is false.
Lilith and the lamia are referenced in Genesis' album "The Lamb lies down on Broadway" (Lilywhite Lilith and The Lamia). If anyone remembers. Worth a listening.
This is such an interesting video. Thank you for all your hard work. Can't wait to watch the rest of your videos.
Thank you for your work. This is the best research/video I have seen on this topic soo far.
I found this very interesting and goes to show that in alot of religions its important to keep woman subservient
Y?
It's peculiar how a bunch of celibate old blokes should think that they have any right to dictate what a woman does, or doesn't do with her own body. Strange also how they fear the strong free sexually liberated woman.
However, there were many societies that revered the female aspect. Correctly so.
Because the: Goddess.
I guess people of the past knew their natural roles unlike today
Mazal Tawab shouldn’t you be stoning the infidels?? making your women cover up?? If you were secure as a man, you wouldn’t need women around you to take their, “ natural place.” Strong secure men love strong women and are together a force of compassion and desire. But, you keep your misogyny alive and feel those dark stares or hatered and resentment and never wonder what true companionship is. Have a nice night friend 👍😺🤘🏻
Excellent! Cannot wait to see the related future vids!
Hi, what Font is it 7:45 into the video with yellow text?
Wow, nice job kid, you hit a homerun. Nice [vetted] facts only presentation, you have my admiration and appreciation.
EXCELLENt VIDEO!!! VERY, VERY WELL DONE!!! Keep up the great work.
Wonderful video. Lots of mixed content on a theme that both enlightened me and simultaneously left me feeling inadequate in understanding. I was left happily confused and curious to know more. I will have to view the video again and again for a better appreciation of its content .
Thanks a million!
wow my head is spinning, a ton of information. worth a 2nd, 3rd viewing!.......great job Lorence
Link to your new website is broken, keep getting error message that IP address cannot be found.
"Knowing the true name of a demon", I wonder if this the origin of fairy tales such as "Rumpelstiltskin"?
It is
Maybe he was originally called Rumpledforeskin
Very astute observation.
@Tommy Lynn then why was she Adam's first wife? El of the El'o'him which is pronounced Lil in Sumerian as in En'Lil (En = Lord & Lil = Air) is also one of the Lil'ith's making the God of the Old Testament also one of these Demons.
Interestingly the tale seems to imply that Adam was sterile/infertile and thus couldn't have children with these Lil'ith's, but being of a patriarchal society the tale is told that Lil'ith refused to be subservient to Adam and would not lie in bed with him. It is only after she refused El (En'Lil) to be subservient to Adam and chose to leave the Garden and take her chances in the wilderness that she began being called a "Demon". As it appears that anyone who opposes El (En'Lil) they suddenly become a "Demon". In Sumerian the rival "God" to En'Lil is known as En'Ki (Lord of Earth) and he is mankind's benefactor, who aids us and teaches us wisdom. Yet in the Old Testament he is known only as the "Serpent" and slandered as deceitful, yet it is El of the El'o'him who is deceitful as El did not want us to become enlightened by partaking of the Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge, where we would gain the ability to know good from evil. Only someone who is evil themselves would be afraid of us gaining that increased intelligence.
There are a lot of cultures that have similar beliefs, so it might not be necessarily from this exact source, but the idea is definitely the same (the Norse and Germanic Pagans had similar beliefs about the power of knowing a thing's true name, for example)
Lilith,the asteroid is 23 degrees aries retrograde,(tropical)as I write.
That was very informative thank you. I also appreciate the references and dates. Much appreciated.
I can watch your videos all night so much knowledge !!!....you have to be amazing to have a actual conversation with.
I saw the picture of Lilith coming down the tree and thought it wasn’t Eve who was corrupted in the garden of Eden, it was Adam.
Yes it was
She love both sexs
Angel don't have sexual organs
Nenphodites
Nephodities
i have been working on my own character of lilth for years now but strangely enough she still lines up with the myths about her. ie she wrote her self. as my co writer put it.
Great Work,
@Milwaukee Atheists.
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Christopher Dixon (Raguel)
this history of my ex is chillingly accurate.
wow exactly what i was thinking!!
Yo son sounds like you had a problem with the Succubus in HUMAN FORM...really. perhaps it was just a DREAM. 😎😅
😂🤣😂
Ha,ha,ha!!!
She gets around, obviously...
Hi, I deeply enjoyed this detailed history.I'm a persian speaker. In Iran's popular culture, we use the word "lulu" for a monster that devours children and the word "Aal" for a monster who kills the mother and child during childbirth. Both monsters are genderless, live in the desert and travel by the wind.
Thank you for sharing the information, that's really neat! (And your English is really good!)
This is such a good video essay! I'd like to know how the Lilith myth fits in with European paganism, if at all? When researching her I found a lot of modern pagans are worshipping a dark goddess that they call Lilith. Is this just reactionary against Christianity? Or is there some northern European pagan basis for the idea of lilith?
Thank you!!
No, she is actually Lilith. There are multiple dietys that you can work with, including spirit guides. Heck, you can even work with Leviathen(?) if he chooses you. The Christian god, or more commonly known as Yahweh, can be followed as well. I do not know about worked with, though
Lilith is so lovely to work with. She's very motherly ❤
13:31 The testament of Solomon with the Tetragrammaton inside a circle combined with an inverted pentagram. Interesting.
Fascinating! Subbed.
Not much is really known about the Lilith myth today except the glamorized imaginations of people who never even study the resources the way you have. This is a great example of the diligent atheists in your group (however many contributed to the research) pouring over ancient texts to set the record straight about biblical myths. Another great video by the Milwaukee Atheists!
You are delusional and very unwise. In your own tiny brain oi think all Christian and Jewish universities in the world have never heard of this? How gualable are you? You atheists are so desperate to debunk religion so much that if any atheists comes up with any kind of nonsense you lip with joy and are so happy someone has said something and tiu don't care to check if the person even knows what they are talking about. This lilth nonsense was debunked long time ago. A person with half a Brian can tell the logical fallacy in the crap this video has in it without even having knowledge about the subject. How stupid are you? I mean, if you don't have an original copy of a text that means anyone who claims to have had the message in your text before you actually had it before you? You lot are so Daft that's why you believe nonsense. Use philosophy in your discernment and be wise. If you think you are very knowledgeable about the lilth fancy a dabate then? Get back me if so
@dareal575 ~ "...desperate to debunk religion..." This video does not "debunk" lilu demons; rather, it puts them in context so that anyone with "half a Brian" can derive meaning from them.
differous01 your sarcasm is perfect and made me laugh so hard thank you
@@dareal575 do you also have a birthing bracelet? 🐝
Lilith = Maleficent. That's her story
That's the 13th fairy or uninvited fairy from Grimm Brother
Yeah I see what you mean. Like the storyline of that movie.
Oh my God, you're completely on point with that; good catch.
@@lancewalker2595 l ok
FUCKING idiots
Wow, I've never seen this, but somehow I knew of the snake being lillith, before you even began.Thank you, this is fasinating.
What translation of Isaiah are you quoting from? I couldn't find it anywhere
Isa 34:14 he said.
@@kati1017 Translation, not verse
"Lilith is seen as the Queen Mother of Demons, a baby killer, and a seductress of the night."
Jeesh sounds like my ex
She didn't let you trample all over her, I take it?
😂😂😂
Lmao
Scary! Did u escape?
Sounds like a lot of women I know, beautiful, but dangerous, and most definitely misunderstood.
Why the heck ya date her/ marry her then?
The True Knot with Rose The Hat in 'Dr. Sleep' comes to mind...
What version you see Lilith in? I been looking and have not found it
The King James Version of The Bible uses the word "Screech Owl" in Isaiah 34:14 however according to Strong's Concordance it is a mistranslation of the hebrew word Liyliyth from the original hebraic language.
www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/liyliyth.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith
Very interesting overview of a complex subject with relevant analysis. Congratulations for the excellent quality of the text whether we believe or not given that Lilith is not present within the christian bible. Many thanks.
I like how you laid this out!
It is mentioned in the King James version, Holy Bible which I have been reading about. It was only mentioned once. I want to read also The Enoch Bible. I think she was based on Medusa in Clash of the Titans.
You sure? What did Medusa have to do with childbirth? When did Medusa live in a tree? When did Lilith have Her head cut off?
Their archetypes sure have a lot of delicious overlap, and they may have some "common ancestors" in mythic development, but they couldn't be understood to be the same "character" or Spirit.
Just like nursery stories. Entertaining but so impossible yet so may believe it until the day they die. 🙅♂️🐝
Great work mate ! 👍👍👍
I'm sure Nabokov was aware of some of this when he created Lolita, a word not that distant from Lillu or even Lilith. Excellent video - thanks 🙏🏽
That would be a complete coincidence as Lolita was already a common pet name for Dolores.
Good research; thank you!
My mother has mentioned Obizuth to me before. However, she didn't know the name and either did I until i saw this video.
How could she mention it, if she didn't know the name?
Have you been chewing crayons again or are you just seeking attention?
Smh and Lol.
@@billyandrew she's mentioned it by telling stories and what not. But she couldn't remember the exact name. So when i watched the video. I started piecing it together and now i know the name. So dude, don't be mean and a dick. Instead, ask nicely.
Isaiah 34.14 which version Bible it is written.. I didn't found it
Well researched and supported! Great production! Enjoyed expanding my knowledge base. Thank you!
Absolutely masterful video here. You taught us a lot, your research and descriptions were superb, and there was so much knowledge that I need to watch this video again at least 4 more times.
And then Lilith married Frasier Crane.
Didn't she sleep with Niles?
@@blackceasar2141 Yes!
She married Niles, get it right !
@@sallymay3643 no, only slept together after too much to drink🙃🤢
Good thing I read the comments before I wrote something similar. ..
What was the chant ?
Very engaging video!
Chest pain demon. That's hilarious. Where's the "loss of appetite" demon?
Venaloid What about the headache demon?
You mean "diet" demon?
We still believe in a 'chest pain demon'; we call it Adrenalin.
Famine
Sound like a virus that attacks a certain part of the body.
"My Name Is Multiple!!!' lacks resonance.
Legions found that out, when they tried it.
😜😂
What does CE stand for ?🙏🏻I prefer BC
Common Era
ok, so how do you explain why wings were adultery in metaphor?
When something has wings, it flies from place to place at will. An adultress moves from man to next man at will.
@@doris_1325 Oh wow how did you know? LOL
Lilith vibes tell me she's misunderstood. Something must be invited. any attacks are from insult or fear. blame.
Other religions of the time held women in equal place or higher.
This was a religion for disgruntled males or outright misogynists, a chance for them to take out their frustration or inadequacies.
She's a scapegoat (jewish term).
In actual lore Lilith wouldn't bow down to God or Adam and that's what got her cast out.
And now, according to many evangelicals and fundies, the talking snake is supposedly Lucifer... Women have lost even the importance of having a BAD WOMAN be the snake.
you got your facts wrong! lucifer was the name of satan before he fell. so the snake was satan not lucifer
@@michielvdvlies3315 Same being, LOL
@@keepdancingmaria no its not! an angel is spiritual Ezekiel 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
what would your family say if your nature would change overnight?
@@michielvdvlies3315 'K... Whatevs. Would you like to address my point? That the snake used to be the "bad woman" but is now SATAN... and so women haven't even the importance now of being the snake? We've lost even that was my clear point.
wait a minute here nowhere in the bible would you read the myth of lillith. why do you think its not in the bible? its a jewish myth just like the talmud claims 974 generations before adam and eve
Thanks for this, mate. It was absolutely fascinating. Best half an hour I've spent on Christmas Eve in years. Cheers and a Merry Christmas 2020!
I know I'm about two and a half months late, but Merry belated Christmas! I hope your day was lovely.
I thought Lillith came from "ly-la" the Hebrew word for moon. I looked in the Torah under Isaiah and the Hebrew word used is actually "lillith" (small "l"). So...You got a point there, young man. Good research. I'm impressed.
I wonder if Lilith was ever some type of counterpoint to Inanna...
Yes, I think so myself. Probably a lot stronger told when they turned boys into kugarra, castrated sex toy boys, and girls into breastless galatur, temple singers. Of course, baby girls with operating parts got to be temple prostitutes and uncastrated males got to be gardeners
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Refer 2:14 Innana actually had lilith evicted from the tree (of Knowledge). Innana is most likely juxtaposition of the Tantric; Jnanna; who is the Goddess of; & the Power(Shakti) of Knowledge personified by Saraswati/Maatangi.
Probably a relationship similar to Athena and Medusa. Similar entities turned into opposites despite keeping similar elements
@@voivodadracula1936 That's true...
So on the TV show Cheers, Frazier's wife was named Lilith. Totally makes sense now.
Good job. The timeline comes together pretty good 👍 right on
One of the things that fascinates me about the translation, and the use of the word owls 🦉 . Sometimes when people have abduction experiences, missing time weird memories. They see owls. Make up that way you will I guess.
Lilith is Virgo in the "underworld." aka darkness greater than light. aka witch of Endor.
@Jason Tempel
...and there is Ephesus aka Ep HESUS (Mars). The Asiastic (Fire - sun) church of Ephusus, is Aries which is ruled by Hesus/Mars. Aries at the spring equinox become day one in Genesis one.
@Jason Tempel
Lilith is the saddle that rides the horse.
@Jason Tempel
See Barabara G. Walker's comment on Lilith in her book "man made god"
The Force of Gay Witchcraft is strong in this one!
The comment was taken down huh?.
No matter. I have your info.
I Hunt...
I told you guys that..
I am sure you guys have realised your dealing with some one or something that you just cant fight back against.
That some one, is none other then Jezebel and Artemis.
That something, is none other then
The Beasts of Hades..(Darkness Itself)
Both...serve me
And they is gonna fuck your lives over til your dying day.
Everyone involved in yesterdays little war. I wil say this:
A L L A H
IS WAITING FOR YOUR ARRIVAL
So if you ask me. I say:
Hurry up and die already!!!
@@justelder6192
Remove your friend peter from your mouth and report to HQ for a brain transplant.
I was taught that Lilith. The first wife of Adam. Abandoned him because he was not sexually active enough. And she went off to live with other men and women to live her life. Some say she was cursed by God or whoever made her. But after all we didn't live in that time. As far as we know it's a fairytale. Passed down by Generations.
Surprisingly mature job. Two thumbs up.
Subscribed!
Truly impressive research. If we look at past through the eyes of past people. A midwife would be a woman. A woman intent on doing everything she could on to bring a new life into the world. With the high mortality of childbirth, you could perhaps see how the grieving family might make a villian of the midwife after the death of a loved one. As you provided nearly all the research for my novel i owe you a donation. Plus if you want to carry on a feminist thread. If your interested i have a great deal of research on the best place to be a woman in ancient Greece. Spoiler not Athens. Happy to share. Regard HG
Thank you for the kind words. Feel free to email me Milwaukeeatheists@gmail.com
(1) Weird how you just went with Yeshua Ben Sira instead of Shimon Ben Yeshua Ben Eliazar Ben Sira. Well some sources do like to go with that middle name, which belongs to Shimon's dad BTW
(2) Ben Shira is from the 2nd Century BCE sometimes listed as the 5th BCE but his book occurs in the 8th-10th Century CE, which highly sniffs of rewrite. Supposedly the son of Enoch, I've also heard Elijah but it is usually Enoch.
(3) Ben Sira does do a lengthy story about Lilith being Adam's first wife that I noticed you sidestepped completely. Well not completely but wow, that's very clever, how you downplayed that one. Congratulations...
Best breakdown i've seen so far.
I love that finishing description of the type of woman a Lilith is. I can relate!
how come an atheist discuss this topic? did an atheist don't believe in God but do believe in the Devil and demons?
You don’t need to believe a religious or mythological concept is real to discuss that concept/thing. You don’t need to believe Lilith is real to talk about the historical development of Lilith traditions, in the same way you don’t need to be a Neopagan to talk about Greek Mythology.
@@jamiee7367 double standard stupid atheist.
Andrei Cruzado How is that a double standard?
This has helped me understand the Bible equally as much as it’s helped me understand the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion
LMAO
Fascinating!
The Buddhist Chakras have two on each shoulder blade like wings. Perhaps her union with a darker entity gave them wings. Chakra points. Stability of duality between man and woman even on the lower dimensional planes
lillith lives in my house i pray to lillith give food to the souls
She came to me in a dream that morphed into a nightmare. I had to get her on canvas. How she appears in this animation is a very accurate rendition of what she looked like: czcams.com/video/mh9E21KK_JY/video.html
@@samr.england613 She looked more like the ghost in the Ring movies to me.
@@samaelcercunnin5227 You think so? I love that film, but I honestly don't see any resemblance. I think my rendition of Lilith is much prettier (although maybe not quite as scary), as the adolescent Samara in the "Ring" movie!
@@samr.england613 Maybe the circumstances of me seeing her were different. She popped up on my honeymoon. Rather untimely. Kind of shook the marriage apart. She is different now. Definitely much prettier. I didn't realise she had already claimed me. She was not too bothered about the original registry office wedding, but when we sought to get the church wedding years later, that kind of woke her up.
As an afterthought, considering your name and experiences, it may be that you are destined for collection at some point. It is wise to avoid giving into temptation, but it is possible your fate does not go that way. I remember the initial incident, decades ago that opened me up to her influence. I feel I was tricked, but that does not seem to have any bearing on how she took it. Failure to maintain purity of mind is something that she remedies. People do get pushed to the very edge of what they can endure, and can have everything taken from them. Most doctors just assume this is mental illness, but most doctors don't listen to the facts, they just observe, and refer to their diagnostic manual to choose a random drug. If you do find yourself driven through hell, and you do reach the point where you feel you cannot carry on, try to remember that her purpose is to strengthen you, and drive you closer to dropping all weakness. Never let go, always keep faith. Ignore atheists, once you have been through hell, failure to believe in your experience belittles it to such a degree that life is not possible afterwards. Always maintain your faith, never let go, and you will be protected. Things are never as bad as they seem; there is always a future. Material things are just a fiction, and material woes are equally fictitious. Your inner self is all that matters, and she wants you to be strong, that is why she puts us what she puts us through.
So many inconsistencies in a of these stories (respectively) that its almost funny
I believe when they say about Saying their True Name means saying their real story or Origen, or real purpose... reveal a true intention...
wow... that makes sence to me... thx 4 sharing it
19:42 where Lilith is ensnared by Elijah uttering the name of God....I wonder how that's done. There's another story where Lilith utters the name of God and is punished for it. Why wasn't Elijah punished for speaking it???
Till today a women is not allowed to be a priestess, if she speaks to the Allmighty its a sinn, her almighty is her husband, Lillit spoke to the Almighty and he did not punish her , the eartly almighty still today smears her name all over the globe.
intention?
I just matched with Lilith on Tinder
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Thanks for this,was only introduce, to her from,shows like,True Blood, Supernatural she,s a whole lot deeper than I thought.
Thank you my Guy, you did this so well. I don't have a High School Diploma and little education but you Guy's (Milwaukee's Atheist) help me understand these stories of old and the Bible. Thank you~ Mj #Bipolarbruja
Please do continue to cover the Alphabet of Ben Sira!
In parts, Lilith is sounding like a vampire as well.
Ookami Prime she is almost exclusively associated with vampires and succubi in modern popular culture
Check out my version of her. Def vampiric qualities. czcams.com/video/mh9E21KK_JY/video.html
comes from the Lamia, who roamed the night drinking blood. So yeah, somewhere along the line Lilith gained those attributes too.
All The Godesses are Vampires and Devils
All The Gods are Tyrants and Demons (Demonic)
All The Lords are Satans
All The Angels are Djinn
All The Arch Angels are Fallen Angels
Jep....
It is said all vampires come from her
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The mezuza is mentioned in the most famous Jewish prayers-It is right out of the Bible. The Bible clearly states that the words should be on your heart, taught to your children, you should speak in them... and you should write it on your door posts and gates. The context makes it clear that the mezuza is there as a constant reminder to think about God's dominion over the entire world.
The Lilith story and legend came from a Sumerian goddess she is bassed of of. She is inspired by inanna.
Read the source material, don't just absorb CZcams videos.
Inanna had to chase Lilit out of Her sacred Tree so She could be throned as Queen on that tree...so how could Inanna be the basis of a spirit that she had an interaction with? And who was arguably there "before" Inanna?
Oversimplification bleaches Truth out of ancient wisdom.
He said Eve was not allowed to marry 2 men! HUH. THERE WAS ONLY ADAM.
Lilith was male and female just like Adam was before he split into Adam and Eve. Lilith left with the fallen angels. Lilith was white, Eve was black. Children of Lilith do not have sins as the children of Eve. Eve came onto god with Adam sexually which got them cast out.
But does the bible give any information on where the non ^Eden^ originals,came from. Maybe there are undiscovered scriptures that have more clarity.
Yessssss 🙌🏼😌 Thank you!
this was very interesting thanks
Good job dude. It's amazing how people still believe this shit is real lol.
Do you have proof that it's not real? Dinosaurs once walked this earth so you can't knock fire breathing dragons as a possibility. Proof of Men and women almost 9ft tall. So you can't say the Nephilim story is far fetched. Aliens? Well that's another subject. Will see how you can debunk this first. Other then it was written by another human just as us.
I've dated plenty of Lili (thank the Gods). Otherwise I'd still be a virgin.
That was funny as hell. 🙂
Nah, you dreamt it all.
Lol.
Pretty awesome that you guys bring more facts and history than apologists
Best description of Lilith, backed up with much written evidence.
They could not have picked a better name for Bebe's character on Cheers.
She'd look good on the back of my Harley
Why do people lie maybe to make themselves look better, maybe they should look at Eve, Evel Evening full of slander kinda like jesabel. Janine another name Who killed GODS people who were made with seed, I think they got lillith and Eve mix up.
Now that's funny I don't care who you are~!! 😆😜😆😜
Very interesting. Madonna was or is a follower of the Kabbalah. She is also a high priestess in her Santana’s cult along with Beyoncé and many others
Bey worship oshun orisha God's and Goddesses
That Mike Skolas...the fella from Red Letter Media I reckon would dig you're Pazuzuz insights .You guys should like form a union or something ,The M.Y.C.C.U(Milwaukee CZcams content creators union).
Great video by the way it made me think of the way placebo works you know .Your not well some fella comes in and names the demon thats bothering you.That's the sort of thing that takes a weight off the mind and might just help you get better(unless they named the wrong demon ,then your obviously fucked).