I was 14 or 15 then. It was bloody awesome with Aussie cars, cars of all sizes mixing it, real street cars, drivers on the ragged edge for 500 miles, some like Moffat driving the whole distance. It was genuine gladiatorial combat.
Fifty years ago....was there a year earlier. Look at how much just about everything has changed except for the fact that the track is still at the mountain. We must remember those who did not get to go home after their bike race or car race.RIP to them all.
Absolute classic Australian motorsport, when cars were real and drivers were fearless. Brock in the lead, his arm leaning out the window during a pit stop. Top driving in the rain on a tough course.
The Bryan-Byrt phase III (John French) ford came second. In 1979 after it was done racing it sold for $5,000, today it’s worth more than $1,000,000 , go figure.
l remember the front page of the melbourne sun, an Italian guy bought 2 with consecutive numbers when they first came out, and was going to garage them because he knew then they were going to be worth serious money.
@@bettysteve322716 Allan Moffat made the statement, “sorry he never bought a phase III when ford offered him one”, he said he just couldn’t see an Australian built car at over $5,000 ever being a popular vehicle or a good investment.
@@justdoesntaddup8620 Prices will decline though. Things are only worth what buyers are willing to pay. And as people with emotional or nostalgic connections to cars die, there are less buyers. Pre-war car prices have dropped considerably. Immediate post war cars are not hot anymore either. Early 70s cars are hanging on, but the big value increase is in 90s and even early 2000s cars as people who were teens then start earning good money.
@@nicbrownable Lol , I thought you were gunna drop the bit coin tip at the end. But in the end turned out just the average punter predicting the next market decline, just another Harry. There’s more people with plenty of money to keep pushing up prices than there are tickets in a lottery. There’s probably only 150 HO’s left , but the late model FPV & GTP sold thousands. They’re not rare. Only the FPV Rspec is rare , but they have no race pedigrees.
I was 12 years young in 1972. We had a similar car race here in New Zealand It was the Benson & Hedges 500. I went to it back in 1975. Australian Chrysler Valiants, and Chargers, Ford Falcons dominated the race.
@@kylebutler7142 I can remember a Holden Kingswood racing. But it was no match for the Valiant Chargers. I also remember the Leyland P76 as well being in the race. It was a long time ago ,so my memory is a bit vague. I think a Volkswagon Golf raced, and that was a new VW car att the time.
I went to the B&H back then as a teen. GTHOs, Chargers, the early ones only had a 3 speed floor shift, Pacers, Torana XUIs, Volvo 245Ts (the 2.4 turbo), right down to Lotus Escorts, Mini Cooper S and I think even some Hillman Imps. The occasional private entry 911, E-Type, Lotus Cortina, etc.
@@briananthony4044 The Benson & Hedges 500 was assembled production saloon cars. There were different classes. The engine size is was differed each class group. So the cars weren't modified in any way, they were new standard road cars. Chrysler Chargers Ford Falcons, Ford Escorts, Mazda, Toyotas, the odd European car such as a Fiat.
This was a great piece of racing history, and it was good to some the cars of yesteryear racing once again, it looked as if they hadf all come straight out of the home garage.
they pretty much did, they were cars Aussies could buy and drive. "Win on Sunday, huge sales Monday" was the Auto companies motto down here. One year, one of the Torana's kept blowing diff's, in the end, they went out into the car park and took one off one their own cars to stay in the race, a far cry from today's racers, "oops we scratched the paint, garage it boys".
I was there on the hill. It as bloody amazing. Great racing and atmosphere. It sure as wet on the hill but it didn’t stop the fans and their machines putting on a show in the campground. Holders verses Ford of course.
I used to own a v8 xy The speedo went up to 140 mph and I had it over that a few times .It didn't handle corners very well the brakes weren't that good but in a straight line God it used to go like helll. Great fun.Also no speed cameras no mobile rader and no using the cops as mobile money making machines.
@@hrstoslife1714 that right, years ago in Australia we use to use the Imperial system. Cars use to use carbys and didn't use coils and ecu to run the car.
For those asking my car came from the factory with the 140 mph speedo .I think the xa or xb came with kph speedos or was it the xc. Can't remember too much drugs and alcohol back in the good old days.
Back in our days, when we could relate to the cars being raced. I never missed a Bathurst telecast, from when they started right through to when V8 Supercars took over, then lost interest.
Thanks for showing this race. They all did a great job of not spinning in the rain in the first laps. The producer adding the siren at 8: 10 really didn't work tho. That would have been a great race to have entered.
@@sugarnads and drafty and noisy and smelly, but if you gave me the choice between a brand new 2022 anything, or a pre 1975, l will take the pre 1975 any day of the week.
Great to see, God it looks wet wet wet. I'd argue that the Spa 24 touring car races of the late sixties and early seventies were even better, wider range of cars. Thanks for the upload.
Looks like a demolition derby. This forage is so heartening in so many ways. It has left me shocked and quite upset, that this beautifully humane and innocent event has became. Im afraid to say that we are on the wrong side of history. The corporations have hijacked what was, and for the next 50 years have served up a sanitized hollow shadow of an event. What a rort. I had no idea of how things were back then. Im interested to know whether the roll cages in the Falcons seemingly buckled on rollover. Such bravery exhibited by the falcon drivers holding that lead over the toranas under such conditions. Racing at 110%
Couldn't agree more about how Corporatism has destroyed Sport. My parents drove up from Melbourne and l watched this as a 5 yr old at my grandmother's. My dad took me in 75 and my fav anecdote from the era is Goss blowing a motor at Friday practice, maybe 1972, running a new one in at midnight around the backblocks of neighbouring Orange, getting caught by the police and letting them drive the car back to the track as a way of avoiding a ticket.
Howard Marsden fitted grooved dry weather tyres to the works Falcons - they were 'terrible' according to Fred Gibson (they needed full wets). Marsden also removed the front spoiler of the Falcons causing the front pads to run too cold and glaze, which cost Moffat the race.
Leaf rear springs, worm and roller steering on some cars, 14 inch mags with big profile tyres, torsion bar front suspension on some, steering geometry not yet designed for radials. Remember when the HQ came out in '72 with the advert proudly stating it had Radial Tuned Suspension lol.
@@briananthony4044 Yeah the big profile tyres would squirm and track all over the place under heavy brakes and heavy cornering and pushing a big flat square front into the wind above about a 100 mph , the thing would dive, snake and wander all over the place add to that the 1970’s pot holes & patches roads.
Have to ask yourself what progress has been made. Yes, safety, no doubt, but apart from that every single aspect of the race was more interesting and more entertaining back then. Everything: the cars, the drivers, the tactics and the broadcasting.
If I squint and call upon the gods, I can see this video in Black and White, the good ole days. We hated Alan Moffat, we thought he was a Yank you see. It was the field against Moffat the cheat. We just wanted him beaten. Fast Forward, 30-50 years and I know I was misled. Bloody Fantastic Canadian he was. The most famous Canadian in the world.
This was the race they banned the Nissan GTR from as once it started racing, it was unbeatable, so it was heavily weight penalised until it was no longer competitive. The Aussies public weren't happy with a foreign car cleaning up their local race cars.
The GTHO IV in the new body shape was the last of the model, only GTs followed it. The Torana SLR5000 V8 raced for a few years, but it had a short life too. There was a E55 340 V8 Charger which was to takeover from the previous 265 I6 models, but it never officially raced. I had one here in NZ, 1973 model.
0:52 holly duck shit,,, they've got a fire going, imagine doing that at Bathurst now 😂 walikng around in gum boots with a big bottle of beer in one hand and a joint in the other
on here, look up "dick Johnson green falcon forest elbow" the lads at Bathurst TAFE rebuilt it overnight, the TV presenter got green paint on his red jacket when he leaned on it at the start line the following morning just before the start flag fell, never forgot that one.
@@bettysteve322716 I was there that day at McPhillamy, I had been there every year for more than a decade, had NEVER seen a big car come across the top as fast as Dick did that day, he absolutely bashed it over the top through McPhillamy and down into the esses , Such a shame, just 20mm to hard.
I owned one. Kept chewing through the main bearings. Had to be replaced at every service so I sold it before the warranty expired - only 12 months/12,000 miles then. Dealer offered me his GTHO III for the trade-in plus $250. I turned him down. Dumb, dumb, dumb!!!
people still do HQ racing today but l think (and don't quote me, l had one and wasn't a fan) 202's only no v8's. The SLR/A9X Torana was the holden race car of choice at the time.
I recall a couple of privateers racing the HQ’s, not doing much good though, the 350 chev Monaro H series won in 1968 or 69 , then the HDT turned to Torana XU1 cars & the A9X & L34 with V8.
These videos are a bit like owning a classic car - they're far more valuable left unmodified. Adding voice-overs, sound effects, and music doesn't add anything of value.
When they took away racing the same car you could go buy at the dealers this race lost all its appeal in my book. It’s never been worth watching now the cars are just shells that look like their namesakes.
this must be the show they made for women.the media destroyed australian racing the bias is sickening.stoped watching bathurst 30 years ago cose of the shit coveridge thats still going on today
Charger is my favourite, still have one , was my first car, love all of these cars what a time for Aussie motor racing
I was 14 or 15 then. It was bloody awesome with Aussie cars, cars of all sizes mixing it, real street cars, drivers on the ragged edge for 500 miles, some like Moffat driving the whole distance. It was genuine gladiatorial combat.
Was a Moffat fan & Ford fan but had a LJ XU-1 those were the days if only we could change back time LOL
Fifty years ago....was there a year earlier. Look at how much just about everything has changed except for the fact that the track is still at the mountain. We must remember those who did not get to go home after their bike race or car race.RIP to them all.
The first 500 mile race was around 1963 , but motor racing at Mt panorama first began in the 1930’s.
Absolute classic Australian motorsport, when cars were real and drivers were fearless. Brock in the lead, his arm leaning out the window during a pit stop. Top driving in the rain on a tough course.
Peter WAS known to have Webbed Feet . Very good in the wet .
* drivers HAD to be fearless.
The good old days before abs and stability control 😜
My stability control has applied for hazard pay.
I remember watching this on TV when much younger that today. This is the REAL Bathurst not the crap they have now in 2022.
We took the motorsport we had for granted, year after year, and now we have nothing, nothing that comes close to this at all.
Great work finding this classic mate. Both thumbs up!
The Bryan-Byrt phase III (John French) ford came second. In 1979 after it was done racing it sold for $5,000, today it’s worth more than $1,000,000 , go figure.
l remember the front page of the melbourne sun, an Italian guy bought 2 with consecutive numbers when they first came out, and was going to garage them because he knew then they were going to be worth serious money.
@@bettysteve322716
Allan Moffat made the statement, “sorry he never bought a phase III when ford offered him one”, he said he just couldn’t see an Australian built car at over $5,000 ever being a popular vehicle or a good investment.
@@justdoesntaddup8620 Prices will decline though. Things are only worth what buyers are willing to pay. And as people with emotional or nostalgic connections to cars die, there are less buyers.
Pre-war car prices have dropped considerably. Immediate post war cars are not hot anymore either. Early 70s cars are hanging on, but the big value increase is in 90s and even early 2000s cars as people who were teens then start earning good money.
@@nicbrownable
Lol , I thought you were gunna drop the bit coin tip at the end.
But in the end turned out just the average punter predicting the next market decline, just another Harry.
There’s more people with plenty of money to keep pushing up prices than there are tickets in a lottery.
There’s probably only 150 HO’s left , but the late model FPV & GTP sold thousands. They’re not rare.
Only the FPV Rspec is rare , but they have no race pedigrees.
@@nicbrownableI had never thought about that . Like 7 million for the first Ford GT ( not Falcon ) . Even now prices would start to drop.
Awesome classic machines...!
Million thanks for sharing..
I was 12 years young in 1972. We had a similar car race here in New Zealand It was the Benson & Hedges 500. I went to it back in 1975. Australian Chrysler Valiants, and Chargers, Ford Falcons dominated the race.
Not a Holden fan but no kingswoods or toranas?
@@kylebutler7142 I can remember a Holden Kingswood racing. But it was no match for the Valiant Chargers. I also remember the Leyland P76 as well being in the race. It was a long time ago ,so my memory is a bit vague. I think a Volkswagon Golf raced, and that was a new VW car att the time.
I went to the B&H back then as a teen. GTHOs, Chargers, the early ones only had a 3 speed floor shift, Pacers, Torana XUIs, Volvo 245Ts (the 2.4 turbo), right down to Lotus Escorts, Mini Cooper S and I think even some Hillman Imps. The occasional private entry 911, E-Type, Lotus Cortina, etc.
@@briananthony4044 The Benson & Hedges 500 was assembled production saloon cars. There were different classes. The engine size is was differed each class group. So the cars weren't modified in any way, they were new standard road cars. Chrysler Chargers Ford Falcons, Ford Escorts, Mazda, Toyotas, the odd European car such as a Fiat.
@@carltwidle3287 The Kiwi Fiat 125T and Datsun 1200 SSS made their entrance. Being road cars made it interesting car against car as well as driver.
Great video, you have to love these real sedans squirming around in the wet .It took big massive ballz ,thanks for the upload!
This was a great piece of racing history, and it was good to some the cars of yesteryear racing once again, it looked as if they hadf all come straight out of the home garage.
they pretty much did, they were cars Aussies could buy and drive. "Win on Sunday, huge sales Monday" was the Auto companies motto down here.
One year, one of the Torana's kept blowing diff's, in the end, they went out into the car park and took one off one their own cars to stay in the race, a far cry from today's racers, "oops we scratched the paint, garage it boys".
Great editing thanks for the memories.
I was there ...
I was there on the hill. It as bloody amazing. Great racing and atmosphere. It sure as wet on the hill but it didn’t stop the fans and their machines putting on a show in the campground. Holders verses Ford of course.
I used to own a v8 xy The speedo went up to 140 mph and I had it over that a few times .It didn't handle corners very well the brakes weren't that good but in a straight line God it used to go like helll. Great fun.Also no speed cameras no mobile rader and no using the cops as mobile money making machines.
Australian car? Why you saying mph?
@Schooey
Hahaha , probably wouldn’t recognise a carby or a set of points either lol.
@@hrstoslife1714 that right, years ago in Australia we use to use the Imperial system.
Cars use to use carbys and didn't use coils and ecu to run the car.
@@jordancleveley5600 yeah, thought it was in kph. My parents own a replica and it’s in kph, so I thought they were all kph.
For those asking my car came from the factory with the 140 mph speedo .I think the xa or xb came with kph speedos or was it the xc. Can't remember too much drugs and alcohol back in the good old days.
My kinda car racing. 🇦🇺👍💯great memories.
Good old days we'll done ✅✅✅👍👍👍👀👀👀 Les from Perth thanks again
Back in our days, when we could relate to the cars being raced.
I never missed a Bathurst telecast, from when they started right through to when V8 Supercars took over, then lost interest.
I wish I still had my Torana.
Massive power, no brakes, crap suspension, no safety. Brave!
And no body sound deadner , they must have been stone deaf for 2 days after the end of the race.
TV needs to go back to this style of presenting. It's wholesome and polite entertainment. We've come so far from this now, and this was really good.
Thanks for showing this race. They all did a great job of not spinning in the rain in the first laps.
The producer adding the siren at 8: 10 really didn't work tho.
That would have been a great race to have entered.
Thanks for posting this, just started reading Wayne Webster’s book on PB called How good is this?
Great read so far.
Look how smooth and composed Brock is.
When cars were classics not plastic
Oh, I'm stealing that one...
110%
When cars were death traps in an crash and had shit brakes and worse handling.
@@sugarnads glad someone said it, awesome classics, real drivers but i reakon i could give em a run in my 2011 D-Max
@@sugarnads and drafty and noisy and smelly, but if you gave me the choice between a brand new 2022 anything, or a pre 1975, l will take the pre 1975 any day of the week.
Real motor sport with enormous skill!
This is the first year I remember it raining on Bathurst 500 weekend. My family lived in the Bathurst area and I was home on leave from the RAAF.
Howard Marsden was a total gentleman.
Great man.
Xu1 another great car
Hey!... Charger!.... man they were cool times.... it was always best when all classes raced together
Great to see, God it looks wet wet wet.
I'd argue that the Spa 24 touring car races of the late sixties and early seventies were even better, wider range of cars.
Thanks for the upload.
A wonderful piece of history spoilt with stupid music instead of screaming engines,
The good old days I wish they still had class racing these days
Gold content!
Those were the days 👍 Motor racing is nothing like this now👍
Looks like a demolition derby. This forage is so heartening in so many ways. It has left me shocked and quite upset, that this beautifully humane and innocent event has became. Im afraid to say that we are on the wrong side of history. The corporations have hijacked what was, and for the next 50 years have served up a sanitized hollow shadow of an event. What a rort. I had no idea of how things were back then. Im interested to know whether the roll cages in the Falcons seemingly buckled on rollover. Such bravery exhibited by the falcon drivers holding that lead over the toranas under such conditions. Racing at 110%
Couldn't agree more about how Corporatism has destroyed Sport.
My parents drove up from Melbourne and l watched this as a 5 yr old at my grandmother's. My dad took me in 75 and my fav anecdote from the era is Goss blowing a motor at Friday practice, maybe 1972, running a new one in at midnight around the backblocks of neighbouring Orange, getting caught by the police and letting them drive the car back to the track as a way of avoiding a ticket.
Thank you Craig for posting btw? The voice over @ the start of this was it Mike Carlton ????
If you told people here that Holden would fold in 2020 they would say you are mad.A big void left in Aussie culture.
I was there.
Good to old days
This is the definition of late 20th Century Aussie culture.
The last Bathurst 500. It became the Bathurst 1000 when Australia started going metric. That meant the distance increased by 100 miles.
And 30 race interruptions with pace cars for anything more than a stone chip on a windscreen.
lol sounds like a star wars movie
Great video, where did all the footage go as this was allways on TV all day. Moffatt had no rear spoiler
While I worked at Channel 7 in the 80's I asked them to do some VHS videos for me.
"The road will be like a pork chop”
Now there a meaning full statement🥴
Howard Marsden fitted grooved dry weather tyres to the works Falcons - they were 'terrible' according to Fred Gibson (they needed full wets). Marsden also removed the front spoiler of the Falcons causing the front pads to run too cold and glaze, which cost Moffat the race.
A year when there had to be pit stops for wiper blades.
You really had to drive these cars no traction control no stability program or power steering
Leaf rear springs, worm and roller steering on some cars, 14 inch mags with big profile tyres, torsion bar front suspension on some, steering geometry not yet designed for radials. Remember when the HQ came out in '72 with the advert proudly stating it had Radial Tuned Suspension lol.
@@briananthony4044
Yeah the big profile tyres would squirm and track all over the place under heavy brakes and heavy cornering and pushing a big flat square front into the wind above about a 100 mph , the thing would dive, snake and wander all over the place add to that the 1970’s pot holes & patches roads.
Have to ask yourself what progress has been made. Yes, safety, no doubt, but apart from that every single aspect of the race was more interesting and more entertaining back then. Everything: the cars, the drivers, the tactics and the broadcasting.
Commentating was very posh back then......but better than the biased shit we get from crompton/skaife today.
If I squint and call upon the gods, I can see this video in Black and White, the good ole days.
We hated Alan Moffat, we thought he was a Yank you see.
It was the field against Moffat the cheat. We just wanted him beaten.
Fast Forward, 30-50 years and I know I was misled.
Bloody Fantastic Canadian he was. The most famous Canadian in the world.
still a cheat though. AUSTRALIAN touring car. RHD...
Bloody great pit area
No..
4:41 the engines sound alot like a orchestra
Oh man that takes me back. Now THAT was how to race. Not this cookie cutter all cars look the same corporate crap we have now.
I'm surprised they got around once with those blocks of flats on wheels....
John Gosses gtho was sold in New Zealand for 12ooo dollars in about 1979
Great stuff! With Holden gone and Ford and Chrysler no longer making cars in Australia, does this race still run?
Yes, but with Ford Mustangs and in 2023, Chevrolet Camaros
Yes but it's a pathetic shadow of its former self. It's as Australian as .44 Magnum shell casings in a McDonalds wrapper in the Hudson river.
This was the race they banned the Nissan GTR from as once it started racing, it was unbeatable, so it was heavily weight penalised until it was no longer competitive. The Aussies public weren't happy with a foreign car cleaning up their local race cars.
@@briananthony4044 correction, the bogans weren't happy about it. the other 5% of the country just wanted GTRs.
With classical music added lol
I was going ask why they thought it nessacary to put music over it
Rt charger best of era
I heard that bum Evan green the creep that killed the phase5 and the v8 Torana and the v8 charger great little video I was there
The GTHO IV in the new body shape was the last of the model, only GTs followed it. The Torana SLR5000 V8 raced for a few years, but it had a short life too. There was a E55 340 V8 Charger which was to takeover from the previous 265 I6 models, but it never officially raced. I had one here in NZ, 1973 model.
body roll must have been in fashion in the 1970's LOL
No..
Do you think cars were as good then as they are now?
Or are you thick?
0:52 holly duck shit,,, they've got a fire going, imagine doing that at Bathurst now 😂 walikng around in gum boots with a big bottle of beer in one hand and a joint in the other
Ppl camp up there the whole week. Shit yes they have a fire going.
A young Howard Marsden
Was that a NZ flag they used at the start?
GT351 going for $700,000 this week
are when holden made the tin can cars and coke can doors and boot/ bonnet and a GM ENGINE
All ford had to do was homologated rear disc brakes and bigger wheels - & wider rubber.
They didn't even have real earplugs. 2:30
Check out the Ford's coming up mountain straight ,1 2 3 4 5 forest elbow looks dicey
No..
on here, look up "dick Johnson green falcon forest elbow" the lads at Bathurst TAFE rebuilt it overnight, the TV presenter got green paint on his red jacket when he leaned on it at the start line the following morning just before the start flag fell, never forgot that one.
@@bettysteve322716 I Remember as you do watching it live that green Falcon was Pole.. until the Trees,
@@bettysteve322716
I was there that day at McPhillamy, I had been there every year for more than a decade, had NEVER seen a big car come across the top as fast as Dick did that day, he absolutely bashed it over the top through McPhillamy and down into the esses ,
Such a shame, just 20mm to hard.
The days when cars were cars and drivers had to sit on their watermelons!😁
Yep... Road cars..
Back when the conrod had no kink. Gutsy drivers, gutsy marshalls lol.
Why all the stupid noise while the are running, can't a 6 or 8 at full noise
What we need,,,,,is 500 more horse power,,,, better brakes,,,, and a 6th gear.....
Fk me. They must have had zero vision in all that muck. Old school tough ozza bois.
Moffat got help to get his car back on the track, not sure but i think that was illegal.....He should have been disqualified.
Did he say the road will be very much like a pork chop.
I think he was referring to the racing because of the weather etc.
I remember the saying " pissed as a pork chop" so he was probably implying they'll be all over the road?
@@psychedelicprawncrumpets9479 never heard that one but i imagine you are correct.
did the hq monaro gts 350 4 speed manual ever race I know where there's one for sale
I owned one. Kept chewing through the main bearings. Had to be replaced at every service so I sold it before the warranty expired - only 12 months/12,000 miles then. Dealer offered me his GTHO III for the trade-in plus $250. I turned him down. Dumb, dumb, dumb!!!
people still do HQ racing today but l think (and don't quote me, l had one and wasn't a fan) 202's only no v8's. The SLR/A9X Torana was the holden race car of choice at the time.
I recall a couple of privateers racing the HQ’s, not doing much good though, the 350 chev Monaro H series won in 1968 or 69 , then the HDT turned to Torana XU1 cars & the A9X & L34 with V8.
Only 500 km then ?
500 miles, 800 km. The switch to metric occurred on Jul 1, 1974
I was a driver
please email me your autograph ASAP
Which car? Ford, Holden , Hillman, charger ?
I was a holden driving but I switched to ford
Hahahaaaaa
This comment section full of late 50’s bogans......
When i was a lad....... blah blah...
Be better to hear the cars and not some crappy orchestra. The engines have better notes.
Sheesh
And they were road cars.....lol
No..
Great vid, but the music sucks
Car sounds don't right.
These videos are a bit like owning a classic car - they're far more valuable left unmodified. Adding voice-overs, sound effects, and music doesn't add anything of value.
When they took away racing the same car you could go buy at the dealers this race lost all its appeal in my book. It’s never been worth watching now the cars are just shells that look like their namesakes.
this must be the show they made for women.the media destroyed australian racing the bias is sickening.stoped watching bathurst 30 years ago cose of the shit coveridge thats still going on today
Where's the lgbt car?
LGBTQ+ thank you very much😂
No lesbaru,s mate
Moffat was such a bore
No,,,
Terrible video. What did they think they were making a video for?
Some rock band and their songs?
Real amateur time stuff.
Are you suffering from haemaroids?
@@ats-3693 no, only idiots, worse than hemorroids.😁