[TAS] Dragon Ball Z: the Legacy of Goku 2 in
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- čas přidán 21. 01. 2017
- Authors: Amphorce & Bonecrusher1022
Frame count: 314721
Rerecord count: 36766 (not accurate due to TASing different strategies at various places throughout the run)
RTA Timing: 1:20:41.73
Emulator used: VBA-rr v23.6 svn480
FAQ:
Q: Why run the English version over the Japanese version?
A: We didn't think about it before starting this run. By the time we realized that we picked the slower (but not the slowest) version, we were already past the Triceratops King and didn't want to start over. So this was originally a test run due to that reason.
Q: Why VBA instead of Bizhawk?
A: Same as above, we didn't really think about it and just used the emulator that we had. We actually didn't even know Bizhawk had GBA support when we started.
Q: Why is (insert character name here) twitching before throwing a punch?
A: RNG manipulation. The RNG doesn't change in this game unless something uses it. For whatever reason, going from a walk/run animation to a standstill animation advances the RNG what we assume to be one place. So that twitching you see is just us repeatedly starting a walk/run for 1 frame and then canceling it the next frame. By adjusting the RNG, it is possible to get critical hits more frequently and to get better enemy positioning after hitting them. It affects damage as well, but manipulating damage rolls generally isn't important to do.
Q: So RNG only influences combat? what does RNG even stand for anyway?
A: Not exactly though it is the main thing RNG controls in this game. There is other things such as avoiding enemy attacks, stat manipulations for starting stats and level ups, NPC/enemy movement are some example. RNG stands for random number generation. We did learn the formula for it (pastebin.com/nh6Ms0xy) but still didn't really understand it exactly so it was all brute forced. You can read more about RNG/Luck Manipulation on TASVideos. tasvideos.org/LuckManipulation...
Q: Speaking of TASVideos you should submit this there. The run is really good :D
A: Amphorce doesn't want to because of a couple of easily avoidable mistakes that happened before Vegeta becoming playable. More optimizations were found after the run was finished as well that slightly change the route and some grinding decisions. Expect an improved TAS eventually but I have no idea when that will be as of now.
Special thanks to Amphorce for uploading this for me cause my internet sucks and Mugg1991 for encoding it. - Hry
Wow. The music really hits you in the feels.
Mike on god
Especially with Future Gohan's death 😢
All the music in this game is great. It really goes with everything super well in the game, it also brings back memories of playing it in the car or wherever and whenever possible
Definitely... Everyone download myboy emulator to play this game that we all played on the gba
An incredible production. Very solid animation and the adaptation of the Dragon Ball Z story to an RPG-type game was fantastic. Utlising 'filler' and 'non-cannon' parts of dragon ball for actual parts of this game's world. Incorporating future of trunks, cooler, new namek, searching the world for dragon balls, the red ribbon army (and another of other ideas and characters taken from the original dragon ball) etc. Because this game is a story-based adventure, not a fighting game, there is no need for 'balance'. Super Trunks really does have reduced speed. SSJ2 Gohan really does move faster and hit harder. And while there is a necessity to grind to an extensive degree to max out your character levels, there is no need for this to complete the story itself, and it is incredibly satisfying playing through with Gohan, starting as the weakest, but through maxed out levels and the use of capsules, is the only character to be able to have fully maxed stats.
This game will have an average player dying many times, so when you finish the game, it becomes incredibly satisfying to be able to explore the world freely and effortlessly demolish every enemy in the world.
Unlike many other Dragon Ball Z games, this game's RPG build allows for a much more adventure-fueled take on the story. You don't simply only participate in each significant battle, it's up to you to treck between each location, train up to be strong enough to handle the battles, explore the world and all it's cute side quests. This game will always be among the first games I ever played, and ten years later I finally found myself with an income of my own to buy all the movies. I watch a bit of TFS every day, i'm watching super now, and I can only dream that one day a next gen game will come around with the spirit of the legacy of goku II.
epicparade1 kay
Buu's Fury is better
You nailed it. Even now I hold that Legacy of Goku 2 is far and away the greatest DB game ever. One of the only ones that isn't just a fighter and actually does a fantastic job with it's adventure and rpg elements. Same with Buu's Fury. Severely underrated and has never/probably will never be outdone.
I agree with you 100%. I really wish there is a proper DB RPG game made with modern technology. FighterZ is great, but I feel that the story element of the whole DB franchise is missing.
Yes
Can we just take a moment to appreciate this OST?
Its the world. Best OST ever
I hope the upcoming Dragon Ball game "Project Z" Will be a remake of Legacy of Goku games. Honestly it's unbelievable how underrated LoG games are...well maybe with the exceptiof of the first LoG game, but LoG2 and Buu's Fury are 10/10 RPGs.
Playing through LoG2 now for the first time. It reminded me how great the Cell Saga was whereas other games just focus on 17 and 18, perfect Cell, etc.
Well, DBZ Kakarot ended up close enough, I guess. Not exactly the same or a true remake, but it's got a similar sort of spirit and gameplay to the LOG games
My greatest memory of this game is using cheats to have all of the character in the beginning and then have Hercule find Goku in the woods.
Hercule: “Dad? Is it really you?”
Frieza: “Your Father is a Loser!”
Hercule: “No! NO! NO!”
Lmfao💀🤣 Wow bro
I can't get over how weird it is seeing somebody like Piccolo or Vegeta doing sidequests.
😂😂
I hated the egg part so much when I was young. 😭
HellzHonour didn’t we all?
It’s the reason my first playthrouh ended in failure.
I used cheats to skip that part.. when I got to the Cell Games, Goku’s portraits were now Gohan’s and I got stuck after Gohan tried to fight Cell for the first time.
Me too holy shit shit and just seeing this guy finishing it in 2min pisses me off, but I stopped playing the game right before fighting cell
27:42
did you cry out of frustration? because i know i did
I broke my game boy while doing that.
This game is amazing, character models are so good, and the battle system is jaw dropping, you can turn super sayian anytime it’s amazing
True. I have nothing but good memories of this game and Buu's Fury.
Yeah same what a classic. For me this was such a perfect experience of a dbz game done right 🙂
Is DBZ kakarot the better version of this game? I'm thinking of getting 1 or the other but I can't choose...
Legend says that Yajirobe is still waiting for you to talk to him by Gingertown...
HOLY SHIT DAWG LMFAOOO I passed it when I was 8, now I'm 16 I wanna buy the game and another Ds to play the game but that's something I never ever did
mr @@juanpabloarambula3483 this is actually game boy advance
@@chrisclack4258 gba games were playable on the Nintendo ds lite, it’s what I played it on
This deserves a new gen remake
Hopefully the Project Z game will be like this
@@Modnar621 nooooooope
Totalement!
Well... you were close.
Everything about this game feels absolutely amazing and I honestly cant find a single thing wrong with it.
the dinosaur eggs?
I wish the first Legacy of Goku was as good as this one.
@@kylemurphy597 that's a mood for sure.
@@philipinoboy1381 Just do that one as Vegeta. Super saiyans get a big movement speed bonus. (So make sure to transform first)
Buu's fury played more refined. The portraits in this game are not that good, certain parts of the game like the dino eggs, the punching combat is not that refined, super saiyan uses regular energy so you can't enjoy using it as much, the special beam attacks were usually not worth using because they were costly for the low amount of damage.
Don't get me wrong, really enjoyed this game. But it was not flawless.
I loved this game. I got Vegeta to level 50 before fighting Android 19, because I loved the southern continent music. I killed him in 2 punches lol.
One thing I did learn, if Gohans level is low enough, even with the super saiyan 2 health regeneration, he can be killed by Cell.
Gohan is also the only character who achieve a perfectly maxed out stat line. He’s the worst early, mid-game, and nearly all of the end-game character but the PERFECT post game character if you use capsules correctly on him.
Holy crap! I wonder how long that took you?!
Damn level 50? For real?
gohan has unlimited energy blast only why A super saiyan 2
I appreciate your passion but its not possible to kill 19 with 2 punches even if your strength stat is 100.
36:44 to 38:11 2 minutes of godly exp farming
yeah that was my favorite section to do. Lots of RNG manipulation for critical hits on the charge attacks to do tons of damage
I like how in the end the game shows gohan go through all the levels that you have made through, its like saying "Thank you for playing and goodbye".
27:40
I know for a fact you all came here for this.
Fuckin' eggs
You dare bring that up not in this house!
Shit dude
I dont understand how is this so difficult ? (I never played this game)
@@bryanu1737 You can't attack while you have the egg and if you get hit while carrying it you have to go back up and grab another. (The broken eggs respawn)
This takes me back 😭😭😭 the early 2000s
Daaaaang man, this brings back so many memories!!!
I was brought this game by a teenager from another school in school in like 5th grade during a thing they called big brother program and I fell right the fuck in love with dbz this game is too good
Man watching the way you juggle bosses makes the game looks so easy. I tried doing it and couldn’t for the life of me pull it off.
there are 2 parts that are rng that makes it kind of difficult. the first part is when enemies are going to attack. after you get close enough to them, the game starts checking every frame if they are going to attack or not if they are not in hitstun, and all melee attacks in this game hit on frame 1. if you get past that, the second part of rng is what direction and how far the enemy goes when you punch them. so sometimes midfight in here stutter steps were used not only to manipulate for crits, but to also manipulate what direction the enemy went when punched. most of the time though we just walked to get in the right position to continue as seen in the android 19 fight. it is doable as RTA runners use the technique for as long as they can when the opportunity to do so arises
It's a Tool Assisted speedrun, It's a computer doing all the fighting not a real person doing this lol
Has it really been roughly 16 years since this game was released? Goddamn do I feel old.
Yeah same damn it's so nostalgic now. I miss playing games like this back when I was so young 😛
this was 2003
👀
15:03
The Piccolo Swag punch earned you a Like from Me.
Lol that wasn't even supposed to be in there. Was messing around to try and get better RNG and forgot to delete the extra spinning when we decided to continue forward
damn bruh it's been a minute but thanks for finishing !
24:30 I’m pretty sure I wasn’t the only one as a kid who eagerly ran all the way up that long passage way and did not expect to fight Dr. Gero 😂 like as soon as you hear the boss music, you know you’re screwed
me too kenny, me too lol!
This game is amazing! And Buu's fury is even better!
Can’t get over how good that ost is
One of the best Dbz games in my opinion
You're Goddamn right
you know this game is returning, can't wait for its arrival.
Preyect Z is a remake of this?
I could say so since it brings back the ol' roam free thing back, and plus it's RPG. Therefore it has to be what I think it is.
Was this linked somewhere? Welcome and thanks for watching! Hope you enjoy it :)
Bonecrusher1022 Just good ol' CZcams recommend doing its thing
How did you hit enemies so fast?
I specifically searched for this because childhood memories yo
Holy cow the way you annihilate the bosses is insane!
You moved those eggs so masterfully.
5:21 vegeta peed
omgggg I miss this so much.... I cried 😭😭😭
Ah man, I remember leveling vegita to level 50 for that door because I didn't figure the "puzzle" out. What a time
2:00
Trunks: mr gohan why didn't you DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE
NEEEEEEEEEEERD!!
Man you are crazy 👏👏
The unmatched feeling of discovering you can play as multiple characters after playing the first LOG. I miss everything about being a kid during these times
I first completed this in 2008. Can’t believe 11 years has passed.
My whole childhood just came back lol
That's nostalgia right there
Damn OST is GREAT
Mannnnn I used to love this game. The music made it 10x better.
sounds exactly like the anime music!
Memories man..
1:27:25
Thats a pretty good run, good job
The freiza part would confuse tf outta me when i was younger I'm glad i found this game it's a large improvement from legacy of goku 1
As soon as the Frieza fight starts.
Gohan: *throws hands on sight*
Now! If Kakarot gave you the option to pick what score played during the game and settled things with Faulconer, I would've pre ordered in a heartbeat!
We need buu's fury next
Wow I did play this back 10 years or something like that😳
This is my childhood right here 😭
Used to play this all the time as a kid
This game is my childhood
I know this is old but god damn did you beat Android #19's ass. Holy shit! I recently completed this game yesterday and I did it in a short amount of time but god damn.
Lmfao, he totally humiliated all of em 🤣
@@1995yuda This man wasted no time!
nostalgia.
I remember, I was always excited when I saw the characters with the red chat background :D I wanted to fight them so bad!
i can feel it coming, im gonna have to play legacy of goku 1 and 2, and buu's fury again
Imma do exactly that starting now lol
Never thought to do that to the triceratops king like that😂
You can get hit pretty easily doing it but the bigger bosses like that are definitely the easiest to try it on haha
So many memories
Ahh the OG good
days
The gba has a lot of gems. I’d have to say that the mega man zero series is hands down the best game series to come off of gba
Mega man zero and this was the only games I played , and buus fury too and a bunch of yoshi Island
Legacy of Goku and Pokemon gotta be the best ones for me. Never played Mega man on the GBA, but I didn't like it on the PC either so...
That man slaughtering all the bosses like they're nothing. I had a hard time even when I went though the game for a 3rd time
Legacy of Goku 2 and Buus fury were probably my most played GBA games
Brooooo the NOSTALGIA 😭
New sub
39:00 I remember I would level Piccolo up tho at least 30 before fighting Cell to at least stand a good chance against him then 17 right after 😂😭 hardest fights in the game imo
I think the hardest fight for me when I played the game as a kid was Piccolo's Cell Jr. fight. He was just so underleveled since at that point it had been a long while since I'd used him.
How good
Mi infancia en una imagen
38:00 when it comes to dbz, you gotta train even in a speed run
good TAS. my only complaint is that we didn't get enough Legacy of goku sequels on the DS and 3DS!
this game had the best soundtracks period
Goddamn who drew those profile pictures lol.
I loved these games as a kid but they haven’t aged too well.
It's almost like a beta version of Buu's Fury. You can tell that the two games use the same engine, too.
The music ❤️❤️
1:23:09-1:23:13
wolf from 1st legacy of goku game
This man is haking the punches
Nostalgia.
This buu fury and gt transformation understand why they the best ngl
its a crime shame you dont play as tien during the semi cell fight. great TAS this game is my childhood
Thanks!
Tanks
I had an unfinished T.A.S. of this that I finished up to beating Android 18, but it wasn't set, or trajected, to beat this one; mine had an E.T.A. of about 1:38:42. As not to take space in the TASers' inbox, would either (or both) of them care to critique my run? If so, P.M. me. Thank you for publishing this regardless, and thank you in advance.
Happy TASing
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I don't mind looking at it when I have the chance. Even though this was my first major TAS project, I may be able to give you some tips cause early on in the project I wasn't very good. Where is the best way to contact you and get the movie file? Don't be discouraged if your run was projected to be a lot slower, if it wasn't for Amphorce this never would've gotten done. It took a lot of routing and team work to come up with strategies as opposed to just copying the RTA record.
Whenever I am not incredibly busy, I can send it to you. :)
childhood~~
HOW HAVE I NEVER SEEN THIS?!
Wow, really? Well, trusts me, you should play 2 and 3 NOW. Thank me later.
That’s crazy I remember this game
OMG this game from my gameboy when i was a kidddddddddd
No se hablar ingles
No se hablar inglés pero el juego es genial gracias por el vídeo
懐かしいな〜
14:42
I lost so many times on that boss fight 😨
That was funny
you made that dinosaur mission look easy
Classic I had this game
Nostalgia
Are they ever going to make a 4th sequel? I played DBZ legacy of goku, DBZ legacy of goku 2, and buus fury growing up and alongside pokemon they were my favorite games. I would love to play a 4th version of the game. Are they making a new one and if so what gaming system would it be used on?
Nicolas h PS4 project Z
My fucking childhood.
Awww everyone in here looks so cute
I remember playing this back in 2003
So that’s where these sprites came from
Legenndary game
Hopefully you can craft a TAS on the JP version of the game.
34:16 ALV
Shit was lit
Superb. World record. It took me four hours
I SPENT DAYS SEARCHING FOR ALL OF THOSE STUPID CAPULES WHEN I PLAYED THIS GAME!
Everywhere I go, there are so many people who don't know what a TAS is who are watching TAS videos. Then a lot of them just say the player is cheating. What
TayoEXE look 34:12 with big bang attack and android 18 its cheated bro
@@mcwilem Your terrible english cheated my brain
@@mcwilem i know its a year old comment i am replying to, but just want to clarify that is not cheated it is actually a glitch. there is a 1 frame window before the text starts when vegeta flies into that cutscene that you can do anything you want. bonecrusher and i took advantage of that 1 frame to start charging big bang attack. during cutscenes your energy does not drain which lets the big bang attack get charged for a long time while in super saiyan (which gives about +10 to all of your stats when you are in it on top of increased movement speed).