Hot Hatch Restomod: Peugeot 205 GTi Tolman Edition | Henry Catchpole - The Driver’s Seat
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2023
- The Peugeot 205 is 40-years young in 2023 and this episode of The Driver’s Seat seemed like a very good way to mark that significant birthday. The 205 GTi is perhaps the quintessential hot hatch and this is now perhaps the ultimate version of the car. Chris Tolman of Tolman Motorsport originally restored a 1.6 GTi for himself but lightly updated it in the process to produce more power than a 1.9. This second Tolman Edition, however, takes things a big step further.
This is a 1.9 with a ported 16-valve head and new cams. There is also a new exhaust, a fly-by-wire throttle and a bespoke ECU. A competition clutch and Quaife ATB limited-slip differential help translate the resultant 200bhp and 160lb ft of torque to the road, while the brakes from AP racing help slow everything down again. The Bilstein dampers, with Tolman’s own tune, keep things fun but less unruly than the original had a tendency to be.
Despite all the mechanical improvements, the look is very much standard both outside and in. No big arches or bonnet bulges here. Even the new exhaust has the same turned down shape as the original. Inside, you still have the scratchy plastics and the original seats. The memories come flooding back as soon as you get in. Some Alcantara on the wheel seems to be the only change. Until, that is, you turn the ignition on and the digital dashboard comes to life.
The MoTec screen has perfect facsimiles of the original red and white dials and they look fantastic. But it gets better, because if you press the button with a Peugeot Sport logo on and hold it for five seconds, then the dials change to those of a 205 T16 Group B rally car! They really are so much fun.
A Tolman Edition will set you back anything from £55,000 (plus donor car) to well over double that for a car like this one. It’s a lot of money for a little hot hatch, but each one goes back to a bare shell for its restoration and in the world of restomods, it still looks like a relative bargain compared to many others. Which other hot hatches would you like to see receive the restomod treatment? A Golf GTi? A Renault Clio? Let us know in the comments down below.
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The price is absolute madness...
Rich boys literally can't spend all the money that they have. So they might as well have a preposterously expensive 80s hatchback.
These same people probably avoid paying as much tax as they possibly can.
Back in early 1987 I nearly bought a standard 205GTi in the gorgeous red as per this model. I distinctly remember it was £8,500 new. Instead I remember the back of the house kitchen/dining room extension that painfully gobbled up all the cash over that fateful summer.
Not to worry though, I was divorced by 1989 and solicitor kindly drafted me a divorce and house sale agreement. Ahhhhhh happy memories!
Erm……. No
@julianevans9548 Ah so you're just assuming a scenario because you're jealous that some people are rich...
It is near absurdly expensive, but if I heard Catchpole right he said there was 700 hours into this build. That type of work doesn’t come cheap, and of course doesn’t include parts and exclusively designed components within.
Crazy money, but i love that the 80s 205 design is still fresh in 2023! A brilliant design
Shout out to whoever edited this masterpiece. The music, effects, chops, atmospheric sounds, all perfect and they're having fun with it.
Agreed! Plus a great script and well presented too.
I believe it was all Henry ( the presenter )
I guess it's all Henry. iirc someone said he met Henry in a train, focused on his laptop doing editing stuffs
Couldn't disagree more, this is so choppy, feels like a 12 year old has been allowed to use the editing tools for the first time. Dreadful and without finesse, CZcams editing 101
@@IronMountainx who hurt you?
200BHP in a 205! Wow! I had a 1.9, so much fun! Loved it. It went pretty well with only 130 BHP, hardly any weight to move.
My mate put an Mi16 engine in his 1.9 205 which took it to about 160 break then later added a supercharger. Was rapid
@@isyt1 Brake... The extra weight detracted from the balance of the car.
Renualt 5 turbo back day would leave them a standing back day I had fiesta rs turbo .. but always wanted Renault 5 turbo .. 1 was front me 1 night on country road 3 morning n way those things stuck road was absolutely crazy they couldn't close grip on corner it was virtually impossible but always rember gettin shot of peauget 309 model and they had some kick to them right right enough also
That’s a really nice £35K car. (And I mean including the donor car).
Before driving a 205 GTi I never thought they were a big deal nor did I understand why they have such a following. After driving one it all became immediately clear.
Agreed! a mate of mine back in the late 90's turned up at mine one time and said he had a 1.9 GTi outside. I convinced him to let me drive it, I was surprised how strong and fast it felt instantly, and I scared the shite out of him, so unfortunately that was my first and last drive in the Peugeot 205 GTi.
I've driven plenty of fast cars till this date, but i'll never forget the time i drove that 205 1.9 gti, it was a mega car, so analogic, so special, pure driving experience, love the engine, the chassis, the steering feel and even the gearbox, and i even like those Peugeot gearboxes! Ps: i don't own a Peugeot!
Had a 1.6 gti in the past. Couldn't afford the 1.9 at the time. Great little car, still looks good today.
Had a Renault 5 GT Turbo before it felt faster but didn't happen and the build quality was bad.
Same here for porsches🎉
I adore 205 gti’s….. I’ve had 5 of them…. But that’s just crazy money
15 years ago 16V 205s were built for 5k.
I built one for £92 once, I got a 205 GTI 1.6 with a blown head gasket from the 205 GTI drivers forum for £30 and a Citroen BX 16v MOT failure from Ebay for £62. That was probably 2002 or 2003 so slightly longer ago than 15 years but still goes to show how the prices have changed.
@@kieranjamieson were you on 205GTIdrivers?
Yeah I'm jackherer, hello :)@@simes205
@@simes205weren't we all?! Rip
@@Ben-in6qh It's gone? Aww man.
That site was more valuable than the cars themselves tbh
Henry Catchpole driving one of my most favourite cars of all time. What's not to love!!
The price?
'Most favourite' doesn't exist. It's either your favourite or it isn't.
@@darrenprior6339 Its you who doesn't understand the correct use of the English language or - it seems - a clear explanation when presented with one.
My first 4 cars were 205 & 309 GTI’s. Last week 30 years later, I picked up a mint 1990 205. Omg, what fun, you don’t realise how dull modern cars have become.😀🚘💪🏽
I must of been a lucky teen in 97 when my sister gave her 205 GTi to me on the condition that I could find her a Saab 900 Turbo Convertible. Mission accomplished.
Nostalgia for sure. I am amazed to see the dash plastics with no cracks in them. Great piece of film. Thanks.
Do love these wish i had bought a couple of them and stored them away with current prices :), i do love this Restomod but feel like you could have 99% of the fun for a lot less money by modifying it yourself.
As an American, I'm in awe of this car. And a lot of cars we didn't get in the States. Looks like so much fun
There are much better cars.
@@SensualDigest wow. So you said it. It must befuckingtrue. Since you said it….it’s a fact. Do you blanket statement here often?
U do know the Geo Metro in other part of the world is the Suzuki Swift GTi? It came with a 100hp 1.3 NA and it kick ass during the 90s APRC running strong with the VR4, EVO2 and Impreza.
U can Google team Silverstone Suzuki Asia Pacific Rally Championship. It was run by New Zealander or Aussie team.
My point is, get the Geo Metro and the crashed Suzuki Swift GTi are still available in Asia. U can build your own and it won't cost a bomb like the other over hype JDM
@@longsleevethong1457 Rather depends on how you define better. My 205GTI will always be fondly remembered and remains one of the most fun cars I've owned or driven.
@@resnonverba137 to each their own
I've rewatched this video. It popped as an ad and I clicked anyway. I don't know much about cars but the detail into which this video explains is just brilliant. Kudos. You've earned a subscriber ❤. All way from Kenya.
I had a 1.6, the liftoff oversteer was sublime, almost telepathic in how it set the car up for the exit of the turn. It wasn't quick or out of control, it was progressive and nothing like a Fiat Uno Turbo or a Mk1 MR2 !
@@diesel9677 EH? I'm saying the off throttle oversteer on the 205 is nice and progressive, the Mk1 MR2 is evil as it snaps into off throttle oversteer. The 205 is a dream to play with the throttle to line yourself up with the exit of a corner. The MR2 is the complete opposite with the way it snaps into oversteer, it's no fun at all and at some point will bite you in the arse.
My 205 Gti was tail happy (I only spun it once) but my brothers MR2 Mk1 handled well, and his 309 Gti handled superbly (he's just bought one again after all these years).
Thanks for coming to see us, Henry. Great film!
Very similar to my 205 gti. It started out as an australian spec 1.9 (drum rear and 1.6's shorter gearbox), then ended up with a 200hp mi16 and a quaife diff under the hood. It went like a tarmac rally car with that close ratio box and insanely revvy engine.
Still the best FWD i've ever driven, even in stock trim it will send shocks down your spine. Amazing balance, brilliant feel through the controls, turn-in like you wouldn't believe. It will undo the conditioning that fwd = understeer within a couple of corners.
How did you get 200bhp out of an mi16? I thought they were 160
@@isyt1 They're an insanely tuneable engine, the head flows so well that if you've got the money you can pump out a fairly dependable 280hp. In the touring cars they went to 300.
Mine just had cams and a bit of head work, another guy in the peugeot club had a full on f2000 car which was mental.
@@GameCubits Awesome!
My mate did quite a lot of work to his 205 Mi16 and got it featured in Fast Car magazine in the mid 90s. I don’t think his was much beyond 160bhp though. Felt very rapid though
200hp? XD
I had a 1.6 Gti, ported head, highliftcam, tweaked airflow unit, straight through exhaust but with a peco back box,and abuot 145 bhp.. it was awesome, it was the 1990's and I paid £1500 for it... it was fabulous
Don Draper famously described nostalgia as "It's delicate, but potent". I can think of no better words to describe the 205 GTI.
The freshness of a french classic hot hatch ! Ahhh ! Still miss mine ! So yes, nostalgia ! Epic video as usual.
What a great video. I love seeing Henry's genuine excitement for the car.
Awesome! This is why I keep upgrading and "perfecting" my owned-since-new 2005 MINI R50.
I built one of these 20 years ago, 16v, cams, throttle bodies. Makes 194bhp and it still makes me laugh when I occasionally drive it!
I reckon it cost me about £6k to build including the mapping.
Can you imagine if you'd sold it? So glad I still have mine too.
And now add up all the hours you spend on it. And imagine getting billed £50-80 per hour because someone else is doing the work and presto, £$€50,000 gone…
You're over-estimating the time and effort involved, I've fitted loads of Mi16 engines into 205 GTIs over a lazy weekend. But in this case IIRC Simes paid uncle Miles to do the work so he'll know exactly what it cost and it wont have been £50k lol! @@ivar5433😉
@@ivar5433 They are simple to work on though, and fairly reliable.
Also, spending 50k over 20 years is quite different to spending 150k in one lump sum, then still having to spend 50k again to maintain going forward. So, I'm not even sure on the point you are making tbh
@@kieranjamieson To think, I scrapped a perfectly usable one back in the day. Got the £150 I paid for it back though, so no regrets. 🤣
Owned so many of these back when. I'm just glad I got to experience them before this madness.
They are great things & I WILL build the 2.0 8v (or 16v) turbo converted 205 I always planned on, I guess it just might not be a GTI shell. I can live with that.
First 205GTI I’ve seen without the handbrake cables hanging down at the back - well worth the money… :)
They weren't supposed to do that? ALL of mind did.
I thought it was a styling feature
(or some kind of emergency braking system, like a braking assist of the 90's) 😂😂
Awesome car, about time someone did this to a 205. People worry about cost but think nothing of spending the same money on a new car that will only deppreciate. This will only ever appreciate and I guarantee it will be more fun to drive. Absolutely nothing like one of these bad boys on the edge.
Amazing video by Henry and the team, as always. What a lovely little car. While it doesn't quite have the same appeal in the US as in the UK, it's great to see enthusiast cars from across the pond and a stellar example at that. Now that the folks who had these in their youth are in their peak earning years they can afford to splurge and build the ultimate versions of them. Nice to see one built in a subtle manner.
Folks who are critical of the cost should be aware that the 700 hours of labor in this car at a specialty shop isn't cheap. In the US you're looking at ~$150/hr at a specialist nowadays and I imagine it's even higher in the UK and, with operating costs and regulations in both countries being what they are, the margins aren't as high as one would assume.
This is basically a recipe that all the 205 guys were doing back in the day. Mi16 engine, Peugeot 406 Coupe Brembo's, throttle bodies and cams. I am 6ft 3" and much prefer the 306 Rallye myself but they are going up in price as well. They did a 309 Mi16 in France too so if you want something like this for a fraction of the price I would look at getting a ferry and get one of those.
These Peugeot 205’s are so cool.
This is like a comedy show, absolutely hilarious haha
I am lucky to have owned a mint ‘92 GTI 1.9 between 99 and 2012. Mine had AC as well. Brilliant car, unforgettable memories.
Trip down memory lane. I love the 205 Gti and was a hugh fan of the Renault 5 Turbo. Although i love nostalgia, particularly for 80's hot hatches i just couldn't justify the cost here even with all the work done.
The car for me from this era that has always stuck with me more is the corrado vr6. Even to this day i miss mine. I would love for someone to do a remod of this vehicle as that would be amazing.
The Corrado in yellow was always a dream car as a teenager, 47 now. I’ve bought most cars I liked over the years but never a Corrado and I regret that
@2702simmo if you ever do, make sure its the VR6, preferably a later 94-96 model European spec. Even better, the Storm edition is in blue and, of course, manual. G60 was cool, but VR6 was something else.
@@simonmorty8344 on autotrader and Pisto heads as I type :)
Thoroughly enjoy watching! Love these Peugeots, beautiful restomod!👊✌🇨🇦
Had a 205 1.9 GTi back when i first met my wife and i was 29 yrs old , she asked if i had a nice car on our first date lol , i said yeh sort of 😉
When i took her for a spin the first time she was shcked how fast it was 😁
I sold it for a family car years later and regretted it ever since , cherry red and it was immaculate 😊
Hands down the best car i ever owned 👌
That's my dream car. So much more desirable than any super car for me.
We had a 205 1.9 GTI (called the "lion cub") - and my God, it was great! I am happy for every buyer who will acquire a Talman...🥰...!
Looking forward to this vid, I have 1.6, 1.9 and modified Mi16, well over 200hp 205’s etc….. the mi is totally stripped and weighs nothing…. Quite simply frantic…Perfect….they are great cars, driven and owned most cars on the planet and these really do make me totally content, I hanker after nothing else…..
Great video, thank you Henry and Hagerty!
I had two Peugeot 205 gti's and I wish I still had them, I had a 206 gti a few years later and it never made me smile like driving the 205 . It also makes me feel old seeing this video of the 205.
The sound of that engine!! Give me more nostalgia please ❤
A legend made better without harming its original character? Sold! We'd love to get this onto our track...
This and a MST Mk1 currently occupy my dream car garage. Well done!
Every digital dash should have an option for a classic, old school look like that, especially if they’re taken straight from a legend.
I'd love to see a restomod of the Peugeot 406 saloon, the pre facelift model. With the 2.9 V6 tuned to aprox 300hp and that signature front-end grip that was a joy to play with. What a great machine that was! And the coupe 406 was a gorgeous sports car designed by Pininfarina that will always be a classic. What an era for Peugeot that was...
Design is timeless!
That’s what I love about older cars. Their design will always be timeless and in 50 years it will still be a beautiful car.
Owned nine years bk, last 1 was a 205 GTI 1.9 1993 k reg blue a/c & power steering! Payed 500 pounds replacing the head worked wonders after!
My sister had a 1.9, mega car and is etched in my mind as I regularly was allowed to take it out when I was 18.
The 205 is just as beautiful today as it was back in the 80’s. Wonder if the designers realised at the time how revered it would be?
My Peugeot 205 XS is the only car I regret selling. Fabulous little thing. I've driven GTi's and they are great, but the XS was a buzzy little fun box.
Totally agree.i have identical 205 1.9 red on a f reg but with factory sliding sunroof.nicer for summer drives.but my first ever 205 was an xs and im still a believer its more fun to drive.when that second flat opened on the solex carb she sounded awesome with a k n filter
We had a 1.6 when I was a kid, no idea how as we were so poor we barely had two pennies together to rub together. The engine eventually seized, I think because it didn't have antifreeze in it. However, that car was absolutely spell-binding around the country roads where we lived. My step-father used to take me out on a Sunday morning to "buy the papers" and we would hoon around on our way to and from the newsagent.
That car inspired my friend so much that he had a succession of 205 GTIs when he left school, and also decided to do an Mi-16 mod. Unfortunately that car is still sitting in the garage more than 20 years after he started it. Still waiting for him to finish...
My first car. Stunning
People misuse and misunderstand nostalgia. Nostalgia is actually about how EVERYTHING is better in the past.
When you look back on the worst of times in the past you still feel a yearning and fondness for them, and THAT is what nostalgia really is.
The little GTI was ‘the’ car that caught my eye upon my first visit to Europe in the ‘90’s - this one really speaks to me.
Yet another car that I wish I still had!
thanks Henry!
Great video, I'm in my late 50s and was lucky enough to own both the 1.6 and 1.9 both amazing, for me the Alfasud was more fun but admittedly not a better built car! Im looking for a 205gti now
I had one ride in an Alfasud. Thought it was slow but light and fun.....until the entire rear-hatch window fell out onto the road!
@@EvoraGT430 yep sounds normal! I owned five alfasuds in total. The 205gti 1.9 was a superb car
My brand new 1.6 205gti replaced my 1.5 Alfasud. They are both etched in my heart in different ways, in equal measure. ❤
Shud have kept yours during the 90s
@@princesssolace4337 Sold to fund houses kids etc like most did back then!
It'd be lovely, well worth having for 10-25 thousand but at the list price is madness and really playing on nostalgia
way back I had '86 1.6 GTi in black, my first hot hatch. Lovely car, mine did feel like a bag of nails but it was so much fun.
Catchpole doing his best Cheshire Cat impression in every external camera shot; he really was lovin’ it!!
I purchased a new 205 Gti 1.9 in the late 1980s. Fabulous car, every journey an adventure until it was stolen.
I miss mine so much, i have many configs and a few back in the day when they were cheap. The 1.9 engine with a 1.6 gearbox was the best of all. I had an mi16 and a 306 gti-6 engined one also that i built, but the 1.9 engine on a 1.6 box was such an animal. Would not want to crash in one mind lol.
Sounds nice and urgent, doesn't it. I remember back in the day and people were putting in 16 valvers from the BXGTi/405M16. Always wondered why Peugeot never did that themselves...
The cam cover nearly touches the brake master cylinder in right hand drive 205 Mi16s, it would have needed so many changes to mass produce them they'd have needed to update the type approval which is very expensive. They did fit the 16v engine to 309 GTIs but only in left hand drive for the same reason.
@@kieranjamiesonyou can get 309s with the mi16 engine in rhd too from the factory
They didn't make the 309 GTI16 in RHD, have a look at the Peugeot 309 Wikipedia page if you don't believe me. @@lupilu4567
I grew up in the Dominican Republic drooling over one of these.
THATS ALOT OF CASH, that is dedication 200% 👌👌🤯🤯
Incredible car. One of our all time favourites. We have a 1.9 in stock at the moment, great fun to drive, probably not as much as this one though 😂
Great fun little thing
It looks like a ton of fun but that's a lot of money for a 200hp FWD car. I could get a R53 MINI John Cooper Works edition with similar performance though for less than $10k and pocket the 140k that's left over.
This is a toy for a millionaire that was young at the time of the original 205 GTI and was dreaming it...
And in 10 years, the value of this car could have doubled.
But then you don't have a Tolman 205 but an overweight, overpriced, overhyped German car sold as an Brittish Icon.
But it would never feel like a 205. To this day one of the best small cars I've ever driven
it's only expensive today!
in the 90" it was cheaper
Finally someone knows how to do a digital instrument that works and looks good.
I had owned the 1.9 sold it for a BMW 320i back in 1994. What a stupid thing to do... It was the best car I have driven ever.
bloody marvelous!
A great review of a fantastic car.
So few modern cars that you can buy new today are desireable, even with a large or even unlimited budget. This thing is just fantastic and doesn't look dated at all.
I had a 1.6gti and I eventually mastered the lift off oversteer and spent many a happy times going sideways through roundabouts etc, i miss that car and I should never have sold it.
Drove one the same spec this as my first car, great memories! ♥️
One of my 205's (J69 MBA) had a Skip Brown 'S' conversion. 160bhp in the original car was incredible.
SBC conversions were good but so much more money than an Mi16 swap!
The SBC 1.9 GTi-S was good as a package, particularly with both the Phase 1 and 2 suspension kits, but they weren't anything like 160hp on an honest set of rollers (in my experience anyway)
How would you know? I bet you've never even been in a 205 😜Hello Anthony, it's been a while...@@anthonyshuttle
These films you're making Mr Catchpole Sir, they're spending my yet to be won lottery winnings at an alarming rate. First Alfasholics, now Tolman!
I remember driving a cammed 1.6 with a 1.9 box and what a car!
My alltime dream hot hatch turned up to 11. ❤ ❤❤
Better start savin' me pennies...😂
Great episode! Thanks! ✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦
Awesome car !
Ridiculous money
I had a black F reg 1.9 back in 1990. Miss that car but this would do nicely
I rolled a F reg red 1.9 gti into a field after a rave high on a bloody strong dove back in the naughtiest
Such a beautyfull car
I paid £7k for my stock 1987 1.9 GTI in 1990; what a car it was in its day so this must be huge fun with 200bhp!
What a wonderful thing.
I had a white 1.9 GTI back in 1989. Fab car.
I drove the 205 gti 1.6 the first weeks of its release a friend was buying several cars for his company and the garage owner let him have it for a long weekend by gum it was fun my friend let me have it for a day and what a blast.
The price and hp are not the main thing about this car,
It's purest form of driver's car,
It's a masterpiece!
i have an original condition '89 1.6 and i love it
I love that they programmed in the needle stutter on the dials. Reminds me of my 89 gen 2 crx
You can keep the analog dials if you wish. These "fake" analog dials are both impressive and repulsive. I don't know which I prefer. I would have to see them in person.
If i had the money i would buy one as soon as possible!! 😊
The GTI i always wanted about 25 years ago.
I live in NYC now but being from Los Angeles, I can't get cars out of my system. The subway simply won't do. For more than a decade I've said that the greatest car ever made is Porsche by Singer. I shall not recant. Being that my wallet needs to be the size of the Empire State Building to buy a Porsche by Singer, I know I will never ever get one. Hope becomes insanity and so I've scoured Google in vain looking for an alternative, and then lightening struck. I came across the Peugeot 205 GTI Tolman. Like the Porsche by Singer, I can't shake it. Sure, $120K is a lot of money for 205 GTI but at least I can grasp the possibility. The Peugeot 205 GTI Tolman is the perfect urban car too, small, nimble, and most importantly, inconspicuous. I'm not the douchebag with the Rolex and Range Rover. I'm Joe Schmo going to Duncan Donuts. So put down the phone. No need to call 911. Thanks to the Peugeot 205 GTI Tolman Edition, my insanity turns to hope once again.
Seeing Hennry Catchpole, reminds me of a recent youtube masterpiece of his "Lamborghini Diablo SV: Road Review | Carfection" - definately worth a check.
That is a lot of money on a resto mod of that stature. I bet it's a lot of fun to borrow and drive though. Nicely done all around inside and out. Cheers 🇨🇦
Awesome.
A week after getting my drivers license in a very slow Volvo, someone was mental enough to lend me their 205 gti. It scared the hell out of me.
I'll be waiting for the video of the Clio! :)
Brilliant
Love it. Need it