In Feb., 1993, while SP Western Region rules instructor in Roseville, I got to spend three days with the rotaries in the Sierras and, given my heritage was as a train order train dispatcher on the San Antonio Division, it was an exhilarating experience. One year earlier, I was able to spend two days on a flanger working between The Gap and Truckee.
Pretty amazing to see those old F series B units still being used. Let alone them and the rotaries still having the SPMW lettering some 20+ years after the merger.
I remember first seeing one of these in the old 1980s National Geographic tv special "The Love of Trains." You never really forget this kind of machine.
I lived on the summit for many years in soda springs. I'm still only an hour away. I've seen all of those trains many times including the rotary blower and am still in awe every time I see it. Great video and there's nothing like standing close........... enough to those unbelievably powerful machines..... Awsome
What really trips me out is--in that first shot? In the upper left-hand corner of the frame? There's a cellphone tower. In Donner Pass. In the old days people starved to death or ate each other when the pass got snowed in. Now you could just order a pizza!
You can buy these rotary snow plows at your local Lowe's or Home Depot. Hurry, They're on sale this week, Regular price $1400, on sale for JUST $1399.99 while supplies last.
These guys were once shoved by 2-8-0s and cab forwards, now they're pushed by GEVOs and ACes. Despite being used by an ever-changing modern railroad, they are still powered by old F7B units, and bear the paint and markings of a long dead railroad. I'm glad at least some of the SP legacy lives on in the sierras, hopefully they never paint over the black and the SPMW markings.
Agree - It's wonderful that UP has allowed the old rotaries to still bear their original Southern Pacific livery! I hiked through three of the tunnels and snow sheds on the old alignment at Mount Judah last weekend (July 16, 2017), and this video lets me compare how the area looks in winter when the snow sheds really are needed.
I remember so many times skiing at Sugerbowl and the tram would take you right over these tracks. So cool! You knew you were in for some incredibly good skiing!
Fantastic. Glad to see that at least one wasn't rebuilt. So cool that a piece of equipment working for a class 1 railroad still uses an A200 horn in 2017! Great catch!
Besides enjoying the video--thanks Jake-- I like to read what many viewers have to say about what's going on. I'm new at railroading and like to learn. Some of you folks are very knowledgeable and add to my enjoyment. A big thanks to you as well!
That's snow plowing fan was developed and invented by some engineer from Canada back in the 1880s still using the same principle today and it's driven by some big cart that is behind the locomotive it's such a massive machine
Norden. Some days the snow is up to the transformers on the poles. You don’t normally plow the snowfalls that happen there. Thanks for posting. Brings back memories.
What an amazing job by Rotarians. Much appreciated for all their efforts, time and money in sharing this wonderful video. May God bless all the persons / engineers involved in this project with all happiness, prosperity, good health and longevity!! Best regards, Nassa
Along with so many others I want to say how much I enjoyed your rotary video. I'm from that area. Thanks also for the written explanation. Nicely done. Now I think you have several polite, intelligent questions to go in and answer.
Funny how UP was gonna get rid of the Espee rotaries in favor of their plows until they tried using their's on that Sierra Cement. Great video. Thanks for sharing
Mark French and they have people like the Roseville Service Unit and Ed Dickens at steam shop to maintain them the rotary is the one vehicle in UP'S bag of tricks that is needed if you have 16 feet of snow up on Donner Pass or on the Eastern end of the railroad
Aaron Peavler/Geomodelrailroader Railroad Photography what does Ed Dickens have to do with the SP rotaries? The boiler is a modern package unit and only produces steam for thawing ice and the whistle.
Sierra Cement lol never heard that one before but I get it im from Alabama digging a trench is damn near impossible cause the clay is like digging thru concrete
I lived in the US for 3 years, Foresthill, CA used to travel I-80 / Donner Pass frequently Used to go for brunch to a place in Truckee on the Main St... Many great memories of the Sierra's & "Sierra Cement" I saw lots and lots of snow, but never managed to see one of these.
Awesome video. We have video of what appears to be these plows stored during the summer, sitting in a yard approaching Sacramento, CA. It's nice to see them in motion - as we prepare for our next California Zephyr trip when daily service resumes on 5/24/22! :) *Cheers!*
January 4 2017 we were stuck on the east bound train at emigrant gap for 4 hours waiting for a snow plow from Reno to free us. The joke going around the passages was “is this Donner Party 2”
A train is the best place to be when traversing the Donner Pass in the winter. The 80 is just a mess with trucks slipping and sliding all over the place even with chains on. Of course it's been a decade since I last went over it in any vehicle.
A rotary snow plough/plow on a train always reminds me of Ian Fleming’s ‘On Her Majesty’s Secret Service’. Bond races and beats the train, his pursuer meets a sticky end courtesy of the rotary snow plough/plow.
When you have 16 feet of snow up on Donner Pass this is who you call. UP breaks out the war wagons each winter if big blizards come to Donner Pass. The Roseville Service Unit knows as Jack Webb puts it in the film Snow on the Run "keep the line clear and keep the trains moving" if snow builds up on Donner Pass the Transcontinental Railroad is shutdown and they don't want that the rotary is the only way to get the snow off of Donner Pass.
When I rode the #5 Zephyr from MTZ on January 26, station attendants mentioned that at one point the snowfall at Donner Pass had approached a foot an hour the previous weekend! The scenery was gorgeous, and I had a lower roomette where quite often the accumulated snow wall was above window height.
When the snow piles up, even the biggest, richest railroad in the world still has to call up the old SP rotaries. SP knew how to run this line, and obviously UP respected that tradition by maintaining the black paint and SPMW markings.
This is some great footage :-) I have recorded that Rotary Snow Plow while it was in the Roseville railyard :-) An Extra "BIG" thumbs up and right into my LOCOMOTIVES playlist :-) ROCK ON!!!!!!!
I saw an hour long Doc.on this a few years ago-when they fire this bad boy up,everyone in the neighborhood knows what's going on!And that's how you get over the hill !!!!
They use those on the roads too. That area has so much snow I'm from Maine but we don't even know! I spent a winter or two out there I would wake up with five feet that had fallen in one night!
This is why I love YT so much...I'm in Australia and will never get to see anything like this! So technically exciting and thoroughly enjoyable to watch 0- thank you for sharing Jake!
Simple yet framed still shots of the opening to this video belong in art galleries all over the world. Just one alongside photos of a strip mine, oil field, or battlefield would define the word 'ineffable' and give pause to all but the most callous. Gracias por tu video. R.T. West, Puebla, México
Great footage and nice catch on the California Zephyr. Thank you for braving the snow depth and elements getting to your camera locations, Nice job!! :)
Good. They can really blow the snow. Read the comments about the blower unit being steam to keep things from icing up and the other units supplying the electricity. Thanks for sharing.
These videos are great so thank you, however it would be nice if you keep filming a little longer so we can see what the track looks like after it has been cleared.
God they look terrifying... Imagine having a nightmare that you're sitting on the tracks, with paralysis and stuck staring at that thing. Coming at you...
thank you for not putting stupid music over the sounds of the loco's working hard
You mean like this "original thought"?
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And to top it off that so called "music" is better described as; "despicable electronic irritating noise".
This machine is a death trap for any human or animal...
Well said. It’s too bad we couldn’t feel the cold and smell the smells.
“Thomas had never seen so much freaking snow”
I could watch these all day.
I am a train and I approve this footage.
Timosha21 lol
No trains or rotary snow plows were harmed in the production of this video!
@@RaoulThomas007 However a large swath of the snow population was sent packing as they took the most direct flight out of the area.
I am a snowman ⛄ and I can't look!
hai train haha your funny
In Feb., 1993, while SP Western Region rules instructor in Roseville, I got to spend three days with the rotaries in the Sierras and, given my heritage was as a train order train dispatcher on the San Antonio Division, it was an exhilarating experience. One year earlier, I was able to spend two days on a flanger working between The Gap and Truckee.
Pretty amazing to see those old F series B units still being used. Let alone them and the rotaries still having the SPMW lettering some 20+ years after the merger.
tarmac2001 iii
Probably only used with the rotarys so no one cares
They electrically power the rotary's drive motors. No other way to operate them.
@@the_retag Espee fans care...
@@eastbaykidd8574 i know but in the company i meant due to there rare use bo one can be bothered to repaint them
I remember first seeing one of these in the old 1980s National Geographic tv special "The Love of Trains."
You never really forget this kind of machine.
Same ones. Built in 1937 and still used when needed.
"Love Those Trains" 1984.
@@johncotter1600that would be steam not desil
I have lived in the area for over 30 years and have still never seen the plow train in person. Awesome video, thanks so much for sharing!
I lived on the summit for many years in soda springs. I'm still only an hour away. I've seen all of those trains many times including the rotary blower and am still in awe every time I see it. Great video and there's nothing like standing close........... enough to those unbelievably powerful machines..... Awsome
What really trips me out is--in that first shot? In the upper left-hand corner of the frame? There's a cellphone tower.
In Donner Pass.
In the old days people starved to death or ate each other when the pass got snowed in. Now you could just order a pizza!
Call up the loud man and have them drop off a bag 😂😂😂😂
Why order a pizza when fresh lunch could be sitting right by you. Lol
@@markmwilson22 hahaha brutal
Welcome to the 21st Century.
Very observant of you.
I LOVE the sounds of the trains....my uncle was a conductor on the CN railway....always love the sights and sounds of a passing train!!!!
I played in the snow sheds at Norden as a child in the early 50s.
Thanks for a great video.
It's so impressive how much snow they can move
The amount of snow being moved and distance it is thrown is amazing
Enjoyed this video start to finish. Thank you for letting the engines do the talking. Happy Trails
You can buy these rotary snow plows at your local Lowe's or Home Depot. Hurry, They're on sale this week, Regular price $1400, on sale for JUST $1399.99 while supplies last.
Not everyone can be an engineer, others are made to watch these kinds of videos and enjoy the nature and artwork of engineering...
Great video. I’ve always liked mountains, especially snowy mountains, and trains. So, thank you!
These guys were once shoved by 2-8-0s and cab forwards, now they're pushed by GEVOs and ACes.
Despite being used by an ever-changing modern railroad, they are still powered by old F7B units, and bear the paint and markings of a long dead railroad.
I'm glad at least some of the SP legacy lives on in the sierras, hopefully they never paint over the black and the SPMW markings.
Agree - It's wonderful that UP has allowed the old rotaries to still bear their original Southern Pacific livery! I hiked through three of the tunnels and snow sheds on the old alignment at Mount Judah last weekend (July 16, 2017), and this video lets me compare how the area looks in winter when the snow sheds really are needed.
I have no clue what you just said. ...lmao
What language is this?
Train nerd!
Yep the old 2-8-0 had the dingle arm sintered to the rotary girder, that kept the blinker fluid from leaking out of the muffler bearing.
I remember so many times skiing at Sugerbowl and the tram would take you right over these tracks. So cool! You knew you were in for some incredibly good skiing!
Fantastic. Glad to see that at least one wasn't rebuilt. So cool that a piece of equipment working for a class 1 railroad still uses an A200 horn in 2017! Great catch!
That's pretty smart using a B unit as power for the snow blower. I'm glad they found a reason to keep those old workhorses around! 👍
Thank you for not calling it a snowblower!
Besides enjoying the video--thanks Jake-- I like to read what many viewers have to say about what's going on. I'm new at railroading and like to learn. Some of you folks are very knowledgeable and add to my enjoyment. A big thanks to you as well!
I love how the thumbnail looks like the plow is coming out of a painting framed by the signal bridge. Beautiful.
That's snow plowing fan was developed and invented by some engineer from Canada back in the 1880s still using the same principle today and it's driven by some big cart that is behind the locomotive it's such a massive machine
I am glad to know I’m not the only gear head who loves this stuff.
This is so wild and so cool at the same time. I had never seen anything like this before. Great footage. Thanx!
Every time I see videos of these monsters, I think I'd like to have one for my driveway & sidewalk. Beautiful country and excellent video !!!
Norden. Some days the snow is up to the transformers on the poles. You don’t normally plow the snowfalls that happen there. Thanks for posting. Brings back memories.
January 2020,they had one of these on display at the California state railroad museum in Sacramento.
What an amazing job by Rotarians. Much appreciated for all their efforts, time and money in sharing this wonderful video. May God bless all the persons / engineers involved in this project with all happiness, prosperity, good health and longevity!! Best regards, Nassa
Along with so many others I want to say how much I enjoyed your rotary video.
I'm from that area.
Thanks also for the written explanation. Nicely done.
Now I think you have several polite, intelligent questions to go in and answer.
Funny how UP was gonna get rid of the Espee rotaries in favor of their plows until they tried using their's on that Sierra Cement. Great video. Thanks for sharing
Mark French and they have people like the Roseville Service Unit and Ed Dickens at steam shop to maintain them the rotary is the one vehicle in UP'S bag of tricks that is needed if you have 16 feet of snow up on Donner Pass or on the Eastern end of the railroad
Aaron Peavler/Geomodelrailroader Railroad Photography what does Ed Dickens have to do with the SP rotaries? The boiler is a modern package unit and only produces steam for thawing ice and the whistle.
Sierra Cement lol never heard that one before but I get it im from Alabama digging a trench is damn near impossible cause the clay is like digging thru concrete
I lived in the US for 3 years, Foresthill, CA used to travel I-80 / Donner Pass frequently
Used to go for brunch to a place in Truckee on the Main St... Many great memories of the Sierra's & "Sierra Cement"
I saw lots and lots of snow, but never managed to see one of these.
I agree nice you haven’t put dumb music on it’s so nice hearing the train with plow working. Awesome
Awesome video. We have video of what appears to be these plows stored during the summer, sitting in a yard approaching Sacramento, CA.
It's nice to see them in motion - as we prepare for our next California Zephyr trip when daily service resumes on 5/24/22! :) *Cheers!*
January 4 2017 we were stuck on the east bound train at emigrant gap for 4 hours waiting for a snow plow from Reno to free us. The joke going around the passages was “is this Donner Party 2”
The greatest railroad video of all-time.
A train is the best place to be when traversing the Donner Pass in the winter. The 80 is just a mess with trucks slipping and sliding all over the place even with chains on. Of course it's been a decade since I last went over it in any vehicle.
A rotary snow plough/plow on a train always reminds me of Ian Fleming’s ‘On Her Majesty’s Secret Service’. Bond races and beats the train, his pursuer meets a sticky end courtesy of the rotary snow plough/plow.
That rotary snow plow would have come in handy for The Donner Party of 1846.
Fantastic. Award winning. Amazing video.
It’s kind of awesome to know that Modern railroads still use old B units ^w^
DarkArts Productions They’re only used to power the snowplow, but yes, it is kind of cool.
Truly love the Donner Pass area and this video was really great.. Brought back many memories. All the best.
When you have 16 feet of snow up on Donner Pass this is who you call. UP breaks out the war wagons each winter if big blizards come to Donner Pass. The Roseville Service Unit knows as Jack Webb puts it in the film Snow on the Run "keep the line clear and keep the trains moving" if snow builds up on Donner Pass the Transcontinental Railroad is shutdown and they don't want that the rotary is the only way to get the snow off of Donner Pass.
at least they kept the espee reporting marks
They already got one SP 1996 one of the Heritage units
When I rode the #5 Zephyr from MTZ on January 26, station attendants mentioned that at one point the snowfall at Donner Pass had approached a foot an hour the previous weekend! The scenery was gorgeous, and I had a lower roomette where quite often the accumulated snow wall was above window height.
When the snow piles up, even the biggest, richest railroad in the world still has to call up the old SP rotaries.
SP knew how to run this line, and obviously UP respected that tradition by maintaining the black paint and SPMW markings.
For some reason the first line made me bust out the Ghostbusters theme.
🎼who ya gonna call?
Snowbusters!
Holy crap, I honestly did not know this was a thing until this video! Awesome!
Thank you so much this is a great video! My dad 91 year old dad and I enjoyed it very much!
Nancy Offenhiser Waittt do you have two dads?
I remember donner pass mentioned in the VHS documentary "Thunder on the Rails" by skyfire productions
I’m glad that Union Pacific is with Southern Pacific Rotary Snow Plow. Amtrak Superliner can’t clear the snowdrifts by himself.
I was wondering if Amtrak was going along this route. The plow shoulda kept going while the Zephyr was passing by! Ha, ha!
Thanks, Jake!
Pray for more snow and great video like this!!!!
This is some great footage :-) I have recorded that Rotary Snow Plow while it was in the Roseville railyard :-) An Extra "BIG" thumbs up and right into my LOCOMOTIVES playlist :-) ROCK ON!!!!!!!
I saw an hour long Doc.on this a few years ago-when they fire this bad boy up,everyone in the neighborhood knows what's going on!And that's how you get over the hill !!!!
That is one of the beautiful places to take a train ride
this is my favorite video on all of you tube ! that baby is an animal . ill bet the donners would of like to have that back in the day !
I just followed a BNSF Rotary Plow through Central Nebraska, super cool!
That's some major power behind those snow movers! I'd love to give that a try.
Nice to see an "F" unit in service. Especially a "B" unit.
There's a rotary plow on display at the Museum of Transport in St. Louis County.
It was a decision UP made shortly after they took over the Espee. I was in the know because I was working for a railroad company at the time.
They use those on the roads too. That area has so much snow I'm from Maine but we don't even know! I spent a winter or two out there I would wake up with five feet that had fallen in one night!
The biggest and baddest snowblower in the world !!!! i love watching her do her thing !
Beautiful, Thanks for posting!
This is why I love YT so much...I'm in Australia and will never get to see anything like this! So technically exciting and thoroughly enjoyable to watch 0- thank you for sharing Jake!
Is it true all the women are hot there
That was most impressive thank you for sharing that!!!
What a brilliant piece of kit!
Wow! So beautiful. Fantastic camera angles and sound. Cool
You can really hear that EMD 567 roar! Amazing!
- Did we hit a deer?
- Why?
- Snow is red...
Deer*
@@claypot10 yes, thanks!
Simple yet framed still shots of the opening to this video belong in art galleries all over the world. Just one alongside photos of a strip mine, oil field, or battlefield would define the word 'ineffable' and give pause to all but the most callous. Gracias por tu video. R.T. West, Puebla, México
A W E S O M E !!!!
Thanks so much for the interesting video. It's the first time I have seen these in operation.
This is a fantastic series of shots!
One of the greatest video works I have seen. Thanks!
Good thing the train got through because Amtrak passengers have been stranded and busses are sent from Truckee CA to rescue them.
Wonderful to locos doing their job...thank you!
Great footage and nice catch on the California Zephyr. Thank you for braving the snow depth and elements getting to your camera locations, Nice job!! :)
Good. They can really blow the snow. Read the comments about the blower unit being steam to keep things from icing up and the other units supplying the electricity. Thanks for sharing.
If I'm snow and I see a rotary coming my way.. I'm starting to write my final will and testament.
HyperActive7 if your snow and you’re yellow what’s that mean? And what would happen if a rotary plow hit you when you are yellow snow?
Hmmm. And you'll be writing it on the fly...
But it doesn’t kill the snow it just moves it... unless you were unfortunate enough to get run over by the trains wheels
If I was snow and I saw that thing coming at me I would instantly melt
Flying pee ice
Magnificent video! Sounded like the rotary had a part out of whack. Hope the big plow is OK.
Fantastic, keep up the good work guys
These videos are great so thank you, however it would be nice if you keep filming a little longer so we can see what the track looks like after it has been cleared.
3am and I couldn’t sleep. This fixed it 10 seconds into the video
The Zephyr! Yay. I miss taking trains😫
Stunning!!!! Excellent video.
God they look terrifying... Imagine having a nightmare that you're sitting on the tracks, with paralysis and stuck staring at that thing. Coming at you...
No
Before a train gets you out there you're probably frozen to death anyway so. Wouldn't even hurt.
Please stop
@@dyslexiccone6676 no
Donner is going to need this again this week
Over 100 years old........Bad Ass !!
AWESOME!!!! Love trains and live these snow removal videos!!!!!
Great catch, a plow at each end!
ahh! thanks for this most excellent footage ! More images from the spectacular place that is California!
Ah so the one I seen a month ago on CZcams is here after 5 years. Nice!
Great video, nice upload!!!!!!!!
Thanks for the video as this is the first time I've seen these snowplows in action.
Neat to still see SP marks on this equipment!
Nice Work and interesting with a double Rotary from Newman
I'm a locomotive and I approve this footage 🙌🏽
Now that's what I call a Snowblower.
Cool video, thanks, from New Hampshire.