Perfectly safe car if you know how to drive and don’t need sensors to warn you of everything. Visibility is incredible too. Best smiles per mile for a budget reliable car
I’ve got the normal panda 4 d 4 diesel and absolutely love it. Practical, personality, cheap to run and amazing when the snow comes. I can’t believe they’ve stopped making the 4 x 4 model, it was a unique car. Not everyone wants a big car 4 x 4
I gave my wife my 2015 4x4 cross and boy do I miss it. When the weather gets bad up the dales it shines. It has never ever got stuck in the worst snow and ice. I loved driving around a stuck Audi Quatro one day when it was stuck on a snow covered bank. Oh did I laugh. 4wd, All Wheel Drive, diff lock, anti stall, hill decent , etc etc etc. One of the best bad weather off road cars ever made. I bought a Subaru Forester which is great except when the weather is really bad I know what i want to be and its not the Subaru. Thats how good the 4x4 cross is.
Funny how many of you judge the fabulous Panda without having owned one. It's one of my favourite cars as it does everything you want and more. It's superb considering it's size, very smartly designed to maximise it's internal capacity compared to it's exterior dimensions. I think people are snobbish about having a FIAT badge on a car, so pay through the nose for a Toyota or Nissan. After my experiences with Nissan and their disgusting spare parts prices, would never touch a Jsp car again. They wanted £1200 + VAT Afor a replacement air mass flow sensor as it only came as a complete assembly, so they sell the complete air intake plenum assembly with sensor fitted via anti tamper bolts. I removed the sensor in 2 minutes from my car and bought a £20 replacement sensor from a Nissan breakers, then sold the car the next day out of disgust because of Nissan and their stupidity.
All these things it does not have: PRICELESS !!! Don't get it? Does it spy on you? NO. Does it tell the insurance company how you drive? NO. Are you the customer? YES.
I thought so too. It has the 4x4 selection dial by the gear lever. The same as my 2019 twin air turbo cross. Mine was actually advertised as a city cross. I had to very politely correct the salesman.
Own a 2014 twinair cross great car so underrated it has one big gripe and one big issue, the gripe is whoever designed the front electric window buttons eitherside of the gear stick must have just come back from Russia and a Vodka drinking comp, but the main issue is elbow banging when changing gearwith a front seat passenger because it is so narrow. Plus points its a car that just makes you grin offroad or snow it is hitting so far above its weight. When the turbo kicks in it feels powerful shame it lasts about two seconds when the realisation that you aint got one litre kicks in. Fuel economy is really good unless you let the engine rev then half that economy and on motorways you need to rev for longer steeper hills. This car we have already decided its a keeper and next year will buy it a bigger brother for company the Mazda CX5.
Passed on our 2013 Panda Climbing last year, never failed to proceed whatever the weather… but, maintenance cost! Three exhausts, £1500, three sets rear discs £1800, fronts are pretty cheap but still x4, last service cost me £1400 including a new propshaft, it then failed the subsequent MOT, needed a new cat, quote was £1800 + fitting, it ate tyres, interior blower fan was replaced twice… rust on drivers door, claim rejected by Fiat, faux leather on the seats disintegrated, it goes on really, and it only had 65,000 on the clock, loved the car otherwise, parking was great you could put it anywhere. Still got £3k when I chopped it in for a Volvo XC60
On my 2nd Panda and it will probably be my next car too. Only hesitation would be that i now have grandchildren to transport occasionally and it has a zero rating safety certification. However i absolutely adore the car as it has so much character, and very cheap to run.
The zero star safety rating is misleading in my opinion. It's because the car doesn't have the latest features that a good competent driver wouldn't need anyway like lane assistance, adaptive cruise control, etc. In earlier EuroNCAP tests before these new features were included it achieved 4 out of 5 stars so I draw confidence from that - they haven't suddenly redesigned the body to be any less strong!
I have a 2019 cross twin air turbo. In a colour I call apocalypse green. I love it. It’s sometimes more fun than my 2017 Focus st turbo. The claimed economy Is a joke though. I know how to drive economically, but it struggles to get better than 42 MPG.
I’ve had one I’m buying another,the only thing I didn’t like is I had to have my seat far back which resulted in my shoulder aligning with the pillar and I’m tall and very broad shouldered so I had to drive sitting leaning to the left the whole time 😂
Love my bog standard white G reg 🐼 2011. It's my first car, and has been to hell and back with me. I can't bear to think that I might have to say goodbye to it one day. I might get it crushed into a metal cube shape, and put it in the garden ♥️🐼♥️🐼♥️🐼♥️
I bought myself used 2005 44kw gasoline Panda (FWD). It is a bit rusty, not good at highway, you gonna feel if there is any sidewind. Also, every speed feels like 20km/h more than it is. Like, you are driving in a 90kmh area and notice everyone passing you, then look at the speedometer and see you are actually going like 74kmh..
Other than that - I just pour in gasoline, it takes about 5,2L per 100km (this is medium, when driven in city for short distances up to 10km and then once a week 350km). In cold weather, I need to block the venting holes in front of the car. By cold, I mean -20 Celsius. Otherwise it struggles to blow hot air and reach normal engine temperature. At first I got thermostat changed and all the engine checked but at the end it is just too small engine for cold climate. Spare parts are cheap, every issue I had is quickly repaired for cheap price.
All in all, I am really satisfied with this car, like, its cheap, I can lower the back seats and transport all sorts of junk with it and even go camping. So what if I scratch it, so what if it gets dirty - its so cheap that I can just throw it away and buy another Panda.
And last but not least. Since I drive this car in cold climate - yes, I bought myself ice chains. While other cars struggle in icy and hilly roads, I am fairly confident. Never ever been stuck with it. But this is not car related - snow chains are the single most valuable upgrade anyone can purchase for their car. Imo any FWD with chains > 4WD without chains on certain conditions (snow, mud and uphill).
Poor review regarding safety so it hasn't got lidar or lane assist but ncap rating was good before all the new gumpf came out. If you own a panda you now it's a great car !
Why is there a frowny face for the fact you use your phone? Would be complaining about a dull laggy touch screen if they put one in. No need to double up on the tech when the phone does a better job anyway.
Yes, a zero NCAP rating, but it only has that because it does not have the latest electronic safety interference device's fitted, so it scores badly on that and the NCAP shows the lowest score attained as the overall rating. The Panda is quite a safe car given it's size. We've had one for 11 year's and updated it to a new one last year as it's such a great car to own and drive. We stick to the 1.2 litre four cylinder engine as that's a great engine, if the cambelt snapped, the valve's don't hit the pistons as it's a non interference engine. It also has fantastic load space with the rear seats folded down.
Well it shows you know nothing about NCAP. The Panda was perfectly safe when we bought ours and gave up its life at 5 years to save our daughters. No amount of lane departure warnings or radar braking help when a tw*t pulls out in front of you.
Hard really to recommend though. I guess that it is OK for city driving, where statistically the vast majority of bumps are low speed. Not really for out of town stuff.
By all means Buy a Fiat but bear in mind the endemic problems with them all. Electrics, poor finish and general unreliability. All of which are also evident in most French cars too. It's a pity really because so many Fiat engines are absolutely wonderful.
Almost every car is based on shared platforms these days 🤷🏻♀️ this car is the same as a ford Ka for example, those stereotypes are meaningless in today's shared platform car world!
fair point but that only applies to vehicles in the same class, i.e. ICEs and EVs CANNOT share platforms with each other, only within the same motive power designs.@@3373just
I have had a 1.2 panda for a year passed it’s mot, and not let me down and been more reliable than the Audi a4 I had before it and the 2 vw tourans I had before the Audi including one which the engine locked up at around 64,000 miles .
Smile every time I drive mine . It’s just fun.
I have a 2012 model, great fun to drive
Perfectly safe car if you know how to drive and don’t need sensors to warn you of everything. Visibility is incredible too. Best smiles per mile for a budget reliable car
I’ve got the normal panda 4 d 4 diesel and absolutely love it. Practical, personality, cheap to run and amazing when the snow comes. I can’t believe they’ve stopped making the 4 x 4 model, it was a unique car. Not everyone wants a big car 4 x 4
I absolutely adore the Panda and really would love to have one.
I gave my wife my 2015 4x4 cross and boy do I miss it. When the weather gets bad up the dales it shines. It has never ever got stuck in the worst snow and ice. I loved driving around a stuck Audi Quatro one day when it was stuck on a snow covered bank. Oh did I laugh. 4wd, All Wheel Drive, diff lock, anti stall, hill decent , etc etc etc. One of the best bad weather off road cars ever made. I bought a Subaru Forester which is great except when the weather is really bad I know what i want to be and its not the Subaru. Thats how good the 4x4 cross is.
It had 4 stars rating, the 0 star is only because of all those electronic shit it doesn't have.
I don't see what that has to do with a crash test.
Buy it buy it buy it! I've got a twin air 4x4 and love it! It's my 4th fiat (Uno/Panda)
I am on my second Panda Cross (proper 4x4), I love them
We have a 2018 twinair 90ch, 4x4 cross version .... just love it !!!!!
I had a panda lounge, loved it. Now I have a Aygo, prefered my panda.
Funny how many of you judge the fabulous Panda without having owned one. It's one of my favourite cars as it does everything you want and more.
It's superb considering it's size, very smartly designed to maximise it's internal capacity compared to it's exterior dimensions.
I think people are snobbish about having a FIAT badge on a car, so pay through the nose for a Toyota or Nissan. After my experiences with Nissan and their disgusting spare parts prices, would never touch a Jsp car again. They wanted £1200 + VAT Afor a replacement air mass flow sensor as it only came as a complete assembly, so they sell the complete air intake plenum assembly with sensor fitted via anti tamper bolts. I removed the sensor in 2 minutes from my car and bought a £20 replacement sensor from a Nissan breakers, then sold the car the next day out of disgust because of Nissan and their stupidity.
It is fantastic fun in the snow and rain, you just point an go,,,,,slowly!
All these things it does not have: PRICELESS !!!
Don't get it? Does it spy on you? NO.
Does it tell the insurance company how you drive? NO.
Are you the customer? YES.
I've got the 4x4 diesel, I searched the country for this, and I dont want anything but this
Nice review Tim and they are fantastic cars. Just one slight issue though - that is the 4x4 Cross you reviewed and not the City Cross.
I thought so too. It has the 4x4 selection dial by the gear lever. The same as my 2019 twin air turbo cross. Mine was actually advertised as a city cross. I had to very politely correct the salesman.
Yes I noticed too. Concerning when he does not know what model he is doing a review on. 60mpg he says???
Own a 2014 twinair cross great car so underrated it has one big gripe and one big issue, the gripe is whoever designed the front electric window buttons eitherside of the gear stick must have just come back from Russia and a Vodka drinking comp, but the main issue is elbow banging when changing gearwith a front seat passenger because it is so narrow.
Plus points its a car that just makes you grin offroad or snow it is hitting so far above its weight. When the turbo kicks in it feels powerful shame it lasts about two seconds when the realisation that you aint got one litre kicks in. Fuel economy is really good unless you let the engine rev then half that economy and on motorways you need to rev for longer steeper hills.
This car we have already decided its a keeper and next year will buy it a bigger brother for company the Mazda CX5.
Passed on our 2013 Panda Climbing last year, never failed to proceed whatever the weather… but, maintenance cost!
Three exhausts, £1500, three sets rear discs £1800, fronts are pretty cheap but still x4, last service cost me £1400 including a new propshaft, it then failed the subsequent MOT, needed a new cat, quote was £1800 + fitting, it ate tyres, interior blower fan was replaced twice… rust on drivers door, claim rejected by Fiat, faux leather on the seats disintegrated, it goes on really, and it only had 65,000 on the clock, loved the car otherwise, parking was great you could put it anywhere.
Still got £3k when I chopped it in for a Volvo XC60
Quirky, fun to drive, practical and economical, what more can you ask for?
I enjoy driving my latest gen 4x4 ltd edition Antarctica twinair model.
On my 2nd Panda and it will probably be my next car too. Only hesitation would be that i now have grandchildren to transport occasionally and it has a zero rating safety certification. However i absolutely adore the car as it has so much character, and very cheap to run.
The zero star safety rating is misleading in my opinion. It's because the car doesn't have the latest features that a good competent driver wouldn't need anyway like lane assistance, adaptive cruise control, etc. In earlier EuroNCAP tests before these new features were included it achieved 4 out of 5 stars so I draw confidence from that - they haven't suddenly redesigned the body to be any less strong!
I have a 2019 cross twin air turbo. In a colour I call apocalypse green. I love it. It’s sometimes more fun than my 2017 Focus st turbo. The claimed economy Is a joke though. I know how to drive economically, but it struggles to get better than 42 MPG.
I’ve had one I’m buying another,the only thing I didn’t like is I had to have my seat far back which resulted in my shoulder aligning with the pillar and I’m tall and very broad shouldered so I had to drive sitting leaning to the left the whole time 😂
Future classics
I smile non stop driving mine.
I love my Panda but would need a safer car! What would you recommend?
Love my bog standard white G reg 🐼 2011. It's my first car, and has been to hell and back with me. I can't bear to think that I might have to say goodbye to it one day. I might get it crushed into a metal cube shape, and put it in the garden ♥️🐼♥️🐼♥️🐼♥️
I bought myself used 2005 44kw gasoline Panda (FWD). It is a bit rusty, not good at highway, you gonna feel if there is any sidewind. Also, every speed feels like 20km/h more than it is. Like, you are driving in a 90kmh area and notice everyone passing you, then look at the speedometer and see you are actually going like 74kmh..
Other than that - I just pour in gasoline, it takes about 5,2L per 100km (this is medium, when driven in city for short distances up to 10km and then once a week 350km). In cold weather, I need to block the venting holes in front of the car. By cold, I mean -20 Celsius. Otherwise it struggles to blow hot air and reach normal engine temperature. At first I got thermostat changed and all the engine checked but at the end it is just too small engine for cold climate. Spare parts are cheap, every issue I had is quickly repaired for cheap price.
All in all, I am really satisfied with this car, like, its cheap, I can lower the back seats and transport all sorts of junk with it and even go camping. So what if I scratch it, so what if it gets dirty - its so cheap that I can just throw it away and buy another Panda.
And last but not least. Since I drive this car in cold climate - yes, I bought myself ice chains. While other cars struggle in icy and hilly roads, I am fairly confident. Never ever been stuck with it. But this is not car related - snow chains are the single most valuable upgrade anyone can purchase for their car. Imo any FWD with chains > 4WD without chains on certain conditions (snow, mud and uphill).
For how most people use them, does this do a similar thing to a Jimny?
Yes, but better.
Poor review regarding safety so it hasn't got lidar or lane assist but ncap rating was good before all the new gumpf came out. If you own a panda you now it's a great car !
Six speed gear box not good too close together .temperature hard to work out .I have had two so I know what I am talking about
hello can you tell me what is the name of the intro song ,please
Let me tell you i have lane departure on my VW, and its down right dangerous
11 grand 😢. I bought a brand new base model one for £6800 in 2015 !!
Why is there a frowny face for the fact you use your phone? Would be complaining about a dull laggy touch screen if they put one in. No need to double up on the tech when the phone does a better job anyway.
Zero star in NCAP. You know everything about this car when this comes up.
Zero star now but was 4 when it was a new release. The tech rules have changed is all and who actually likes being steered into oncoming traffic.
Yes, a zero NCAP rating, but it only has that because it does not have the latest electronic safety interference device's fitted, so it scores badly on that and the NCAP shows the lowest score attained as the overall rating. The Panda is quite a safe car given it's size. We've had one for 11 year's and updated it to a new one last year as it's such a great car to own and drive. We stick to the 1.2 litre four cylinder engine as that's a great engine, if the cambelt snapped, the valve's don't hit the pistons as it's a non interference engine.
It also has fantastic load space with the rear seats folded down.
Well it shows you know nothing about NCAP. The Panda was perfectly safe when we bought ours and gave up its life at 5 years to save our daughters. No amount of lane departure warnings or radar braking help when a tw*t pulls out in front of you.
I drove a bi fuel panda, minimum 8l per 100 km, definitely not economic!!!!
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Rather walk
Hard really to recommend though. I guess that it is OK for city driving, where statistically the vast majority of bumps are low speed. Not really for out of town stuff.
I use mine on the motorway every day. It's brilliant.
They can do anything. Apart from getting anywhere near 60mpg
@@allen_key I get 50mpg, sometimes 55 if I'm really careful
By all means Buy a Fiat but bear in mind the endemic problems with them all. Electrics, poor finish and general unreliability. All of which are also evident in most French cars too. It's a pity really because so many Fiat engines are absolutely wonderful.
I'm on my fourth Fiat Panda and second Panda Cross 4x4. None of them have put a foot wrong. They have been the most reliable cars I've ever owned.
My car just passed it’s MOT today and it’s 10 years old. It’s very reliable.
Almost every car is based on shared platforms these days 🤷🏻♀️ this car is the same as a ford Ka for example, those stereotypes are meaningless in today's shared platform car world!
fair point but that only applies to vehicles in the same class, i.e. ICEs and EVs CANNOT share platforms with each other, only within the same motive power designs.@@3373just
I have had a 1.2 panda for a year passed it’s mot, and not let me down and been more reliable than the Audi a4 I had before it and the 2 vw tourans I had before the Audi including one which the engine locked up at around 64,000 miles .