Does the 2024 Triumph Daytona 660 live up to its legendary name? | MCN review
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Road Tester Carl Stevens has been sampling the new Triumph Daytona 660 triple on its launch. Does it live up to the Daytona name? Find out here: www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-r...
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What Triumph needs to do is sell a Daytona "kit" for the Street Triple. Fairings, headlights, clip ons. I know you can cobble that together in the aftermarket but it's a hassle. Keep the Daytona alive but make the few people who still want one pay for the privilege. This seems redundant.
That would be the Daytona 765.
@@ScooterGrubb which they discontinued a while back!
They did but no one other than a few racers bought it
@@stevec6427 in fairness, it was expensive, limited edition and basically a decade old design. So I'm not sure that's a valid reason to say 'well no one bought them, so let's not make a standard production version. My opinion mind.
I’ve been saying this for a few years. Give people an option to choose between a sport bike or naked.
Id like to see a group test with this bike, the CBR650R, and the RS660.
Stay tuned
RS 660 will win that comparison, I predict
@@motorcyclenewsdotcomzx4R too 🎉
@@motorcyclenewsdotcom that has to be the biggest tease of this week.. 😅😂
Yes the RS 660 would win against the other 2 but it's the most expensive by far. The RS is the most expensive in its class.
LOVED the honesty. Please be this transparent with all bike reviews. I know it is sometimes not possible with respect to being invited to launches etc etc but this review was outstandingly refreshing.
That should have been called the sprint 660
I wanted to love this bike including the Daytona moniker however it appears you are correct.
Yea I’m not sure how this is much different than the tiger sport 660 outside of a slightly more aggressive rider position. Seems like a flop to me and a cashing in on the Daytona brand.
@@Accost2uagreed, but it's dumb - no one who knows what the daytona is going to buy one somehow accidentally thinking it's a suportsports. It just annoys enthusiasts and those who do know what a daytona should be.
Seems to be the fashion these days, like the R7.
@@Accost2u I almost forgot about tiger 660 .. you are right .. very confusing why they came up with this
It's been a long time since I've heard some honest motorcycle journalism. Respect. Triumph makes such great handling bikes. This is an unexpected outlier.
An honest review which is refreshing but will probably mean no invite to the 2025 Triumph launches?
Triumph were on it a few years ago. The classic range, bobber, Thruxton, 765rs etc. But recently I just feel Triumph have become a bit...bland.
Let's call it a Daytona and put cheap budget suspension on the bike. Nobody will even notice.
They should’ve based this bike on a speed twin and called it a sprint
@@philipjames3526 Eh. The 765RS was overhyped. I rode a couple of them and really didn't feel any different to my 675R. If anything, it felt more muted with a very noticeable lul in power below 3-4k RPM, whereas the 675 motor pulled from 0 to 10k +.
Bobber & Thruxton were dope af tho. Shame the Thruxton was stupidly uncomfortable.
Daytona was such a special name. Not anymore. Great honest review btw.
Mustang was to, now it's a f**king EV car...
Great video, nice to hear that you were willing to point out the deficiencies of this bike. Too often reviewers just wax lyrical about the bikes they are reviewing. They really missed an opportunity by not using the 765 Engine and chassis for the Daytona. What was triumph thinking?
This guy is based. Cant remember the last time i've seen someone point out negatives in a launch review.
Still a nice bike, would love me one as a second bike.
"based" on what?
Would you prefer he glossed over them and said everything was great?
Based means honest, dares to speak the truth, knows what he's talking about, etc.@@MianCowell
@grtbgf thanks, as a non native English speaking person it didn't make sense to me 😁 ✌🏻
@@_TrueDesire_He meant unbiased (objective), as opposed to biased (subjective). But, good review and will put people off buying a bike which several reviews say doesn't handle that well and has a poor front end.
I am not surprised they gave you a black one to test. In any other colour it looks like the forgot to paint the rear end. I am sure the engine will be nice. I went CBR650R for the inline 4 and relaxed ride (and. best looking one in Red for 2024). The dash on the Daytona is very disappointing also.
Third party acceleration tests are out, the Daytona completely smashed the CBR650R and RS660 in a straight line, 0-200 kmh the Daytona was 4.2 seconds faster then the CBR650R and 2.4 seconds faster then the RS660. That’s pretty significant.
Hmmm, decent motor letdown by its chassis - valuable insight
dunno about the bike mate but your living up to the legendary name of a certain mr neeves! great review...well done.
Thank you kindly
I was recently in the market for a cheaper sport commuter and was debating waiting for this bike to come out. I decided to get the Tuono 660 Factory instead (basically an RS 660 with handlebars). It has slightly more HP, 50 lbs lighter, fully adjustable front and back suspension, quick shifter and IMU for like a $1000 more? I had a feeling the Daytona would get a "good enough for a commuter" reception so it was a no brainer for me.
I also went for the Tuono 660 Factory and it’s proved to be a great choice. Paid the same for a brand new 2022 model last summer as this Triumph! (I.e. £8600) I’d have paid the £10K asking price based on what I got. Extremely happy with it. Makes this Triumph look like poor value. It has the same crappy rear break lever as the Trident 660 that just makes you go “why!?!?”, for example.
Where are you getting 50 lbs lighter from? I would also compare naked to naked, not naked to sport in the future regarding that. The Aprilia 660 is a good factory, was hoping it had a competitor like this, so I guess we will see.
@@NPurvis7622 Not sure it adds up to 50 lbs but the Daytona 660 is listed as 201 kg and the Aprilia is 183 kg.
@NPurvis7622 the curb weight for tuono 660 factory is 399 and the daytona is 443 so I rounded a bit. I'm just giving my experience as far as comparison goes. I bought because I commute on moyorcycle and it actually had a decent amount of fairing on it.
@@gr33nspan A little bit of fairing is nice. I’m also running the official Aprilia touring screen, which I prefer to stock screen.
Sounds like a half cocked effort.
I have hope that Triumph will make it right. Stiffen up the suspension a bit and it should be sorted. Fingers crossed.
Exactly right. A half-assed effort. I love my Tiger sport 660, and I feel sad to see that they have not done justice to the one shot they had at coming up with a sports version on steroids.
iput 84000km on my 2010 Street Triple 675. and it´s still running like new. What a brilliant machine! They know how to build excellent handling bikes, unfortunately they mesed up this one but i am sure they will fix the issues on it.s predecessor.
Helpful review of the 660, thanks. Sorry to hear the steering sounds a bit heavy with the regular settings. Hopefully it can be adjusted by the rider for more agility. Nice bike.
Thank you for the honest review.
Nice riding, looking forward to the group test.
i just came to know that Triumph sells Daytona Kit for Street Triples, but how to get them..?? there's no option of it on their website.... nowhere.... 🤔
like most things these days.. its gone soft lol
That's what my girlfriend says
Looking forward to the group test! RS660 still looks like the winner of this category.
I am a huge fan of triples (owned an mt09)... But with the growth of twins class racing it will be interesting to see how using a triple will effect sales vs the similar twins you can race
I think you just pushed me towards the street triple R. Shame, I will still test ride it but thanks for the honest balanced review.
I’m sure I saw one of these is Gateshead today. Looked awesome!
Finally. An honest review on this bike.
Good news about the motor, Hopefully, continued development on the frame, springs and dampers will allow this bike to reach it's full potential
How they tarnished the legendary name is beyond me 😬 i understand they need to make money by selling "soft" bikes to youngsters on a2 license but good god they could have gave it another name... Its almost like if BMW were to call a 320 an m3.
Looks great love the triple May be heavy fork oil weight and volume might help front end 😊
Unlike Triumph to muck up the handling, they're normally really good.
Maybe on purpose so they can sell an R version?
We’re limited by cost, probably.
Really nice, honest review.
A real review is such a breath of freah air.
Thanks for being honest about the bike, makes a nice change
Nice- waiting for MCN test with its rivals
Did anyone check the tyre pressures? Strange for Triumph to fail with the handling. Even the Trident feels pretty decent on relatively budget suspension.
from the review it feels like the Daytona 660 is mostly aimed at new/beginner riders who want a sport bike, but will mostly ride on street and occassionally on track?
Makes sense. Why not go for the younger, "starter", market? I think it looks pretty sharp, which might end up mattering to shoppers.
That's exactly what Triumph have said they've aimed for
Almost 100hp seems steep for a beginner. Maybe a second bike?
In this segment I'd go RS660, best tech and it gets cruise which is really handy for longer rides, for some reason a lot of bikes still don't even have cruise as an option!
Glad they mentioned zx4rr in the same category as the mid cc twins.
The rs660 isn't listed as a competitor due to the fact that it's not A2 compliant. A2 compliant bikes can only have a maximum of 95hp that can be detuned to like 50hp for younger riders and the rs660 makes over the 95 max hp
I test rode this yesterday and loved it but now after watching this I am beginning to think I should try the others too
If you wanted to ride a bike in the segment "a bit harder" @5:00 which one would you pick? Got an order? :)
In my likely jaded opinion, Triumph have never been able to re-create the lightning-in-a-bottle magic of the 675 Street Triple & Daytonas. As a STriple 675R owner, nothing they've made since sings quite so beautifully, pulls so damn hungrily or handles quite so sweetly as the 675 range. I've tried the 765 range and was underwhelmed, so much so that I passed on trying the 660. Lack of power and not having quite the same beautiful induction, F1 sound that the 675 motor puts out were deal breakers for me.
Damn shame that Triumph have fallen off quite a bit in a market where they were so damn dominant. High-revving triple, slick colour palates (black & gold for mine!) and that sexy af twin undertail exhaust system (thank you SO much Euro regs for RUINING things). Will always love the 675 Triumphs.
Triumph is really nailed it with 660 platform, love the bikes on it
As someone who raced a 675 for years back in the day....... this saddens me. 😞
Anyone know if triumph is going to make a true supersport? Like a Daytona 1200. I feel like the speed triple gets all of the time.
I have a street triple 765R and would love to add to the stable but I’m not going backwards on power…
Lovely looking bike, would love to get one for my bro.
Triumph 660 vs Honda 650r vs aprilia 660rs
Still waiting for that r9 for the triple engine and proper handling...
Funny how this new Daytona is being called the softest and most relaxed compared to rivals when the old 675 has a reputation for being the most aggressive along with the R6. Agree with other comment about calling this the Sprint 660. Completely incomparably to the older iterations. Doesn't even look as nice to my eyes.
This bike is incredibly comparable to the older ones, the 675 was actually further from a true Daytona then this was as it was a ridiculously aggressive super sport. The Daytonas prior were always more street friendly sport bikes. The ergonomics and softness are almost identical to the Daytona 600 from the early 2000’s, and according to multiple reviews this handles better than that older 600…
The Daytona 660 would suit someone like me who wants that little more sportiness, comfortable road bike.
Though I completely 100% agree with the comments, it should have been called the Sprint 660 . Unless triumph now releases (soon) an RS model which is more track focused, the Daytona brand will of lost its soul.
I love what this bike, but having had a Daytona 675, this should be called a Sprint. I will still likely get one!
Increased inertia crankshaft?
Looks like nothing will replace my 09 cbr600rr maybe the Yamaha r9 won't disappoint idk 😶
I think they forgot what a Daytona should be😂😢
Are these quicker than the r7?
It's a commuter, not a sports bike
They set themselves up calling it Daytona
@@IN_ZANE_and every single Daytona other then the 675 and 765 moto2 were more street biased sports bikes as well, so how exactly did it ruin the Daytona name? I think too many of you have a short memory…
I love the sound
Please Triumph make a bike to compete with the cbr and zx6
Something below the 765RS then
Baisically we all miss the 675 😅
GROUP. TEST. NOW. I expect it next week and won’t accept any delays.
Yeah honestly, should have been called the Trident 660 R or RR or something similar. I get that they made a bunch of improvements to the Trident 660 to fit the characteristics of this bike but that's really what it is -- an upgraded Trident 660. Not that I am particularly looking for a bunch of electronics on the bike as someone who owned a Daytona 675 for 12 years but it certainly pales in comparison in terms of value for money with the competition, specifically Aprilia's RS 660, which I now own.
How does your RS660 compare to your old Daytona? Does it feel like a 'downgrade'? I've got a 675R and it's my dream bike, not sure what I'll eventually change it for, don't really want a litre sportbike.
@@kw4n1987 I LOVE the Daytona. I still do. But I wanted something I could ride for long distances and was really wanting something with a few rider comforts. I've taken the Daytona to the track several times and I just think it's hands-down the better of the two for me on the track. The RS 660 is nice on the track too but its foot pegs are too "comfortable" for track days, so I am getting aftermarket rearsets which should fix that problem. It'll allow me to change footpeg positions accordingly.
If there is a single feature in the RS 660 I like, it has to be the cruise control. It's a sport bike with a not-too-agressive riding position and it's good enough for the track that I can still have fun with it. But I definitely miss the Daytona. If Triumph had made a slightly more comfortable Daytona based on the Street Triple 765 (not the Daytona Moto2 edition) I would 100% trade the RS 660 for it.
The 675 was further from a true Daytona than this was. The 600, 650, 955i, TT595 were all much more street friendly, softer sport bikes. If anything, this new Daytona goes back to true Daytona roots…
Also the Daytonas of old all had naked variants called Tridents. Memory appears to be short on a lot of people…
They don’t have test riders to develop these bikes??
They have simply repurposed Tiger sport 660, in a bid to milk the most out of that beautiful 660 power plant, which is ok, but that repurpose lacks the punch given that the changes are largely cosmetic (other than the 13 bhp boost to the TS 660 engine). What they should have done is to add all the bells and whistles that a screamer in the sports segment should have (electronics, suspension, and such)
I was excited for the price and performance but after riding sport bikes for years I know it's gonna suck in handling. I hope they can evolve it into a 660R with adjustable suspension to challenge the RS660.
Triumph is currently developing a race kit for this bike with a third party company
I’d take the Street Triple 765 for a better road bike, and a ZX6R/CBR600RR for a proper sportsbike. Not sure about this ‘Daytona’, especially going on this review.
Will have to hear more opinions, maybe toss in a group comparison, but based on this I'd say the GSX-8R is a big winner.
Idk, in a straight line the new Daytona is a lot quicker. 0-100 kmh in 3.1 seconds, 0-200 kmh in 12 seconds flat. That’s only .2 seconds slower than an MT09 in the 0-200 sprint, and it’s 2.4 seconds quicker then the RS660 and 4.2 seconds quicker then the CBR650R, it’s closest competition. For interstate commute like I have I would much prefer this Daytona… a little more leaned forward, excellent power plant…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 Not all aspects of what makes a particular motorcycle good can be boiled down to spec sheets.
I guarantee the Suzuki will have heaps more grunt in the low and middle range, as well that meaty sound with an exhaust system. That's a lot different than a triple, regardless of actual numbers.
Nice jacket…❤
If the number of people whining about appropriation of Daytona name actually bought the bike then it would never have been discontinued.
These are people who would constantly complain about a product without having any intention to spend money on it.
Exactly lol. They watch a lot of Yammie noob videos.
I know what you mean but as a former owner of a 2010 Daytona 675, I definitely didn't want to something like this. I now own an Aprilia RS 660 that I bought as a stop-gap until a new Daytona would be announced. I have to admit that the RS 660 is a way better value proposition than this Daytona and while looks are subjective, I think the RS 660 looks way better too, at least to me. I might be over-simplyfing but the Daytona has always been based on the Street Triple platform. While I had hoped that they would continue that, I sort of expected that they would go this route.
Who knows, maybe they'll come out with a proper Daytona based on the current-gen Street Triple some day? I can only continue to wish for that (and no the Moto2 Daytona does not count). I would definitely trade-in my Aprilia for that triple again.
I presume its 93HP so it can be restricted to an A2 license? I know that the european market dictates alot of what goes on in motorcycling but I prefer if they didn't tailor the bikes power to specifically fit this demographic. If it'll make 110hp let it don't choke it up to fit a HP number so it can be restricted.
Judging by how quick the new Daytona is straight line I’m curious if Triumph is being a bit conservative on its hp/torque figures. It does 0-200 kmh in 12 seconds flat. To put into perspective the MT09 does it in 11.8. So it’s only 2 tenths slower than an MT09, which is a very quick bike… triumph does underscore their hp figures, the Street Triple RS is proof, it dyno’s 5 more whp stock then Triumph claims at the crank… and that does 0-200 in 11.3 seconds. So only 7 tenths behind a Street Triple RS…
Is this bike's handling that much worse than the TS660? MCN said the TS660 was great?
How does it compare to gsx 8r
Waiting for this.. ❤
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Where in the world could Carl be? The roads were dry and the sun was out. All day!!! I'm sure Triumph will upgrade suspension for next year's model. It doesn't cost more to supply 'properly damped' suspension as opposed to 'under-damped'. More adjustability can be added as an optional extra later on. But for now it seems they wanted something more comfortable (despite the sporty looks), and I would have loved to hear your opinion of it as a daily commuter bike.
There are other reviews online that look into this more...
@@AS-ox2nl Thanks. Any particular channel you would suggest?
the newer headlight design are getting weirder everyday.
So the trident handles better?
Another misfire for me. A bike like this was a middle weight commuter back in the day. Not much more than a cbr600f. Id rather an older litre bike.
It seems very low in the back just from the looks. Nothing a different shock cannot cure but this is not how these games are played I am afraid :D
Wouldn't look out of place with an L plate on it tbh, sorry, not a patch on the old 675 classic
triumph f*cked this one up real bad
Have you ridden it then?
Opening the way for another 765 Daytona...especially with a R9 confirmed
I don't they have fucked it up it's based one of triumphs most successful bike's the trident 660 which out the previous Daytonas by a long way so it's making perfect sense . Hardcore sports don't sell many .
@ThomasDoubting5 I'm sure Triumph knows this will sell. He's one of the many haters who doesn't like the fact it's called a Daytona. I couldn't give a toss what they call it, if I was in the market, I would ride it and form an opinion on that and if it suits my needs. Rather than making a comment based on nothing but emotion.
So sure of what a bike's like on an MCN review.😂🤣😂
R/S incoming?
RS 660 is way more expensive compared to R7/CBR/Ninja 650 or this. But also the only one that comes with adjustable suspension.
By just looking at it it's more competition against touno 660 then rs660 as it has typical sport-touring front with raised handlebars and touring screen. Think in my eyes that rs660 is a better option then this, expected more
Those clocks look so cheap compared to just about every other bike in this sector. They also fit them to the street triple R. 😢
I wonder who took the decision..."We should call this Daytona"....
It will give us a lot of cred based on the actual supersport we once created. Darn we are smart.
What they actual got...a destroyed name turned into something negative. And as a bonus, good luck google it if you look for the real Daytona. Well done...whoever you are ...
The Question is, are people buying 600 super sport bikes anymore? or is it a return to a fast sport bike that compromises for day to day work and equipment spec to get the price down, which is badly needed, everything is so very expensive these days. 95hp from a 660 with 12:1 compression, feels detuned to not compete with the street triple.
Once again, it's really nice to see a faired bike, but i really hope Triumph makes a 765 with proper components for 2025.
This bike is weaksauce in my opinion and 1000cc superbikes are to much power and to expensive, so i really hope we get a Daytona 765 to compete with the Yamaha R9
Is it so hard for manufacturers to built a proper faired sportbike with 130-160hp and high end components?!
And the clip-ons are attached to the triple tree. That sucks. Its nothing in common with a Daytona besides the 3cly motor. Why😢
Why did you mention the 100 hp Aprilia in the same breath as other 80 hp bikes? The Aprilia RS 660 is a lot more bike than this Triumph or the 8R.
Bc that’s the new sport class that’s replaced the 600 supersports that are now gone.
This bike has 93hp, the cbr650r has 94hp. The Aprilia had the same displacement as this bike and is its direct competitor. Why wouldn't they mention it?
@@Accost2u But it’s not though. There are at least three 600cc bikes with 100+ hp and then a few “new” 80 hp or lower non-sports bikes. This Triumph is more like a Ninja 650 than a ZX-6R. My point is that it’s unfair to group the RS 660 with the Triumph and the 8R. It’s better than that.
@@holylordofmadness6988the class is dead. The kawi and Honda are just face lifts of 10+ year old designs.
@@CS-pl8fc They didn’t mention the CBR650R nor did they mention the CBR600RR. Does this Triumph really have 93 hp? That’s well up on the Trident 660 it’s based on.
So the Daytona was given the R6 treatment - replaced by something very different that really cannot be compared with the predecessor...
Oh well, new CBR600RR is here!!
This Daytona 660 is almost identical to the Daytona 600 and 650 from the early to mid 2000’s in terms of ergonomics, it just makes a little less hp… even then the new 660 is very quick. It’s only .2 seconds slower in a 0-200 kmh sprint then an MT09…
If it can’t race in Super Twins with the rest of the new bikes, what’s even the point?
I still remember having the latest super hot 600 sports bikes in the early 90's which had just under 100hp and I remember them being loads of fun and never found them to be slow. I think id rather that than 140hp
I'd take all the competition over this
Same except the ninja and r7
That's a first! A free lunch and finding faults with the bike.🤣
かっこいい！
Hmm, this seems weird, Triumph usually makes a good job with budget parts. It's strange that the motor is so good but the chassis poor. Also crap gearbox, i wonder if you got an abused test mule?
I cant understand this guy's moaning about soft suspension, its a fookin' budget SPORTY bike, not "RR", and it's built down to a price, so WHAT more do you want?? Its made FOR REAL roads, which ARE BUMPY so you NEED softer suspension, so you dont trash your spine and kidneys!!
These journalists are all track riders, and these younger ones don’t remember the softer street oriented Daytona’s from the 90’s and early to mid 2000’s…
So a disappointment on wheels. Got it!
Yeah so the YAMAHA R7 and KAWASAKI ZXR400 ARE NOT ITS COMPETITORS.
the riding positions are totally different.
they just need to come out with a litre sportsbike
Sounds like a 5/10th riding bike.
Well... soft suspension and lazy man's throttle capability.
Is it a sport touring machine leaning on the tour like the Suzuki Katana was or as we called it, Katuna.
Drop the front 5mm and pump that fork to super stiffness !!
Hey will it fit anyone over 5'10" ?
The exhaust is half of the bike.