Guitar Potentiometers part 2, Comparing Linear/Audio Taper and Selecting Pots

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    In this video, I demonstrate the sound differences between Linear and Audio taper pots, and compare audio tapers in Alpha, Bourns and CTS pots.
    I then review the other factors you need to consider when buying pots: tolerances, dimensions, split shaft versus solid shaft, etc.
    In part 3, I'll cover how to enlarge the holes in a semi-hollow body to fit the new 3/8" shaft pots.
    Audio examples recorded through my Vox VT30 amp and a high quality Rode NT1 mic.
    The multimeter I use in this video is the Mastech MS8229 - amzn.to/3n0oDB6. (I am not sponsored - this is just my recommendation based on personal experience. I may earn a small commission if you purchase via the link).
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  • @ryan.1357
    @ryan.1357 Před 6 lety +78

    This is the greatest potentiometer demonstration on the internet.

  • @meadish
    @meadish Před 4 lety +46

    One doesn't see a lot of 2009 videos with this type of clarity. Very useful information and well presented. Thanks a lot!

    • @x1_n_only_jtm_
      @x1_n_only_jtm_ Před 2 lety +3

      I didn't even realize it was from 2009! lol

  • @chzzyg2698
    @chzzyg2698 Před 6 lety +32

    You saved me a chunk of research time.

  • @ResoBridge
    @ResoBridge Před 9 lety +20

    i don't know about the Alpha pot that you measured but Alpha make perfectly usable log pots.
    Something that most people do not know is that most pot manufacturers make 'log' pots with at least 6 different log curves. These are described as 5%, 10%, 15%, 20%, 25% and 30%. Not to be confused with tolerance of the end to end track resistance, these percentages refer to the percentage of the total track resistance when the pot is at half its rotation (measured between the counter clockwise tag and the wiper}. Unfortunately most pot resellers do not tell you which log curve the pots they sell have. Pot manufacturers seem to regard pots with either the 10% or 15% curve as being 'audio' taper. I have seen at least one guitar parts store selling what they call True Vintage Taper, which are 20% log curve. I'd recommend 10% log curve pots for volume and 20% for tone. The tone control response on typical guitar electronics is a bit odd because the resistor / capacitor of the tone control circuit interacts with the resonant circuit formed by the inductance of the pickup and any self capacitance and other capacitance that is in parallel with it. A 20% curve tone pot compensates a little for this.

  • @ringosteve21
    @ringosteve21 Před 3 lety +2

    I see this was added 11 years ago. I'm glad it's still here! This is going to be helpful reference, great video.

  • @chrisrimolt3233
    @chrisrimolt3233 Před 8 lety +7

    VERY informative and instructive - nice comparisons and the graphs are EXTREMELY helpful to see the literal differences between POT options. Nice work and thanks.

  • @JoelWalker1229
    @JoelWalker1229 Před 8 lety +1

    I shared your potentiometer videos with my guitar teacher. He liked how you explain and demonstrate everything so well that he's referring other students to watch them. Really helpful stuff! Thanks

  • @bizarrefruit
    @bizarrefruit Před 7 lety +2

    Fantastic video, what a great way to show the differences, I've just ordered cts audio 500s as part of a project to sort out my poorly wired HHH frankenstrat.
    So glad you showed them as tone controls as well, audio is exactly what I'm looking for on both tone and volume.
    Really awesome job, thanks!

  • @VGMrawk
    @VGMrawk Před 5 lety +1

    This is the first video I've seen that actually explains pots well. I found out the hard way by buying different pots. Love the CTS but now I know bourns are good too. Great vid.

  • @UncleWayon
    @UncleWayon Před 4 lety +2

    I realize this is 11 years old, but this is an EXCELLENT demonstration. Thank you John! Exactly the info I was looking for.

  • @TeleNikon
    @TeleNikon Před rokem +3

    THE BEST, most comprehensive series on guitar wiring I've found on CZcams, hands down, is your/this series with this cool Epiphone Riviera P93. This has been my go-to video series for years. Initially, for the basic knowledge and now for brushing up. Sucinctly unpacked and defly demonstrated. Thanks man.

    • @johnplanetz
      @johnplanetz  Před rokem +2

      Thanks for the kind words! Hard to believe it's been 13 years since I made these videos!

  • @DRRIFF666
    @DRRIFF666 Před 12 lety +1

    That has answered all of of my questions on tone. Superb. Thanks so much for doing this.

  • @cristianosmiranda
    @cristianosmiranda Před 9 lety +1

    Man, great video!! I'm about to change the eletronics on two guitars of mine and this really helped me a lot in order not just to understand, but to check in fast way the differences between the pots... really thanks for the video!!

  • @d3w4yn3
    @d3w4yn3 Před rokem +1

    Fantastic demo!!! This just cleared up all of the reading that didn't quite explain this like you did!!! Best video out there!!!

  • @markknight6445
    @markknight6445 Před 3 lety +1

    Mr Cooper, you are what we in Blighty call, A DIAMOND. MANY, MANY THANKS for all of your efforts and common sense knowledge. 👏🏼🤗

  • @RTGuitar73
    @RTGuitar73 Před rokem

    13 years later, this video helped A LOT! Thank you very much!

  • @christopherwatson157
    @christopherwatson157 Před 2 lety +1

    This was super helpful John - thanks for doing this video ! Great Quality !

  • @Brankas
    @Brankas Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent demonstration. Professional level presentation and explanation. Thanks for the effort buddy

  • @flashy5150
    @flashy5150 Před 9 lety +2

    I'm glad that you made this video. I always get linear and audio taper mixed up. I like to play Van Halen and an instrumental solo called "Cathedral', if you've heard of it. He does a technique with a combination of volumes swells and delay to create a violin or cello sound by rolling his volume pot back and forth.He uses linear taper pots for that because he needs a fast attack and a fast roll-back on the volume.

  • @anajaen4604
    @anajaen4604 Před 2 lety +1

    What a great video! It is exactly what I was looking for. You just prevented me from falling into a mistake. Thank you so much!

  • @promixing7714
    @promixing7714 Před 9 lety +15

    Extremely helpful video for me, thank you sir!

  • @moshibass
    @moshibass Před 4 lety +2

    That chart at 2:17 was very helpful. Thank you for this video!

  • @danz409
    @danz409 Před 4 lety +1

    glad you cleared this up. was working on repairing my dads amp that was apparently thrashed around and needs 6 pots replaced. was going to get a kit that didn't have the "A" pot defiantly ordering one of those on the side.

  • @dickolaswang
    @dickolaswang Před 10 lety

    Really good explanation -- I love your really thorough demos. Thanks!

  • @Skumbomb
    @Skumbomb Před 5 lety +3

    Many many many thanks for this video !!! it's clear and now I know what to choose :)) Keep doing this kinda vid dude you're great !

  • @Fredaonch
    @Fredaonch Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you very much john !
    Your video sums up very clearly the info i was looking for...

  • @ohvnaq
    @ohvnaq Před rokem +1

    the chart at 2:21 is an eye opener for me! never knew audio tapered pots can vary so much! thanks for the great video!

    • @johnplanetz
      @johnplanetz  Před rokem

      Note- that’s not to say that all Alpha pots will be like this! Maybe I just had some bad samples, but the point is that there there may be some variability, so it’s always good to test (and measure if necessary!)

  • @DavidQualls
    @DavidQualls Před 11 lety +2

    Thanks, John! Great job! To "nmssis": A 500k ohm pot for example, with +/-20% tolerance, means that the value of a so-called 500k ohm pot can actually be anywhere from 600k ohm (+20%) to 400k ohm (-20%), or anywhere between those two values. The only way to know for sure what the actual value of the pot is would be to measure resistance across the pot with a multimeter as John has clearly demonstrated. Hope this helps.

  • @sailorjerry7282
    @sailorjerry7282 Před 6 lety +1

    Awesome video, thank you so much. I now have a clear idea how they all work. Rock on!

  • @macwavestudios
    @macwavestudios Před 6 lety +2

    Clear and to the point. Thanks for the video

  • @Blech319
    @Blech319 Před 9 lety

    Thanks John. Very helpful series.

  • @cosmicbutthairs
    @cosmicbutthairs Před 2 lety +1

    Incredible video. I have an ibanez where I think the volume pot sucks (not responsive till I'm around 5) now I know it's just a linear and something I want to change out. Thanks for simple and detailed explanation

  • @Noumenon4Idolatry
    @Noumenon4Idolatry Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks man!!! I really like the Alpha Audio taper

  • @natanhannah
    @natanhannah Před 14 lety +1

    Mate....your a Legend! I have been wondering about the CTS pots & if they are worth it. Well, now I know...they win for me ;-) i was going to do this test myself...
    but you have saved me many hrs. Keep it up man, top work!

  • @zakkman
    @zakkman Před rokem +1

    At last i found clear demonstration. Thanks a lot!

  • @zerogreenred
    @zerogreenred Před 7 lety +1

    Excellent video John; thank you.

  • @paulstaffordcook8799
    @paulstaffordcook8799 Před 4 lety +1

    What a great demonstration! Thank you, thank you 👍

  • @soundofBeers
    @soundofBeers Před 2 lety +1

    Was exactly looking for this! Just a comparison between logaritmic and linear, as I was curious how that would turn out. And it's exactly as they wrote online. But, as Phil Collins sang: "seeing" is believing ;) Thanks!

  • @1planetmusic294
    @1planetmusic294 Před rokem

    Excellent - Best demonstration video I've seen on the difference between the linear and audio/logarithmic taper. Many videos get the explanation backwards in terms of the perceived difference. When the resistance is changed in a linear fashion, many videos explain that the output will change in a linear fashion. But that's not how our ears hear in terms of volume (due to the logarithmic nature of our hearing which accounts for the logarithmic nature of the decibel measure). This is also similar to why amps have to increase the power (watts) by a factor of 10 to double the volume in decibels, rather than just doubling the watts.

  • @CORZER0
    @CORZER0 Před 4 lety +1

    Fantastic presentation. Thanks!

  • @zerogreenred
    @zerogreenred Před 7 lety +3

    Excellent, practical video.

  • @MarcosJ-mq4lk
    @MarcosJ-mq4lk Před 10 lety +2

    What a guy-excellent review ,just what i was looking for..got this link from seymour duncan site

  • @EmilioAyala
    @EmilioAyala Před 4 lety +2

    extremely helpful video, thank you so much.

  • @lidesnowi
    @lidesnowi Před 14 lety

    Great Great demonstration!!!!!!!!!
    Linear volume pots and logarithmic tone seem to work for me!
    Thanks

  • @SearcySW
    @SearcySW Před 13 lety

    Nice work. Very good explanation.

  • @kermitkev
    @kermitkev Před 5 lety

    Very good video. Clear and informative. Many thanks.

  • @pleximars
    @pleximars Před 12 lety

    excellent video, well thought out and very imfomative.

  • @BigBoll
    @BigBoll Před 6 lety +2

    Extremely helpful video for me to, thank you bro!!!

  • @emilianodelacruz3504
    @emilianodelacruz3504 Před 4 lety +1

    Very usefull straight information, thumbs up!.

  • @nojyeloot
    @nojyeloot Před 11 lety

    Thanks for making this clear and understandable. You enabled an "aha" moment. Thanks man.

  • @Alexanderjamesguitar
    @Alexanderjamesguitar Před 14 lety

    Great video! Very informative!
    Keep it up.

  • @josequiles7
    @josequiles7 Před 14 lety

    all your videos are great and super helpful!!! great job man! really nice =]

  • @taokichavez9319
    @taokichavez9319 Před 4 lety

    this is the ultimate guitar pot, most comprehensive and yet easy to understand explanation EVER!!! thanks for sharing, how did You measure the different pots to graph and understand the smoothness volume transition?

  • @busterdog82
    @busterdog82 Před měsícem +2

    Brilliant video 👏

  • @wildesage4172
    @wildesage4172 Před 3 lety

    This video is perfect. Thank you!

  • @gskh
    @gskh Před 14 lety

    Great demonstration ! It"s clear. Thanks !

  • @coldweathersucks
    @coldweathersucks Před 10 lety

    great info thanks. i will def get audio taper to replace my linear vol pot.

  • @logantucker8897
    @logantucker8897 Před 9 lety

    You rock!!!!! This helped me a tremendous amount! Thank much!!!

  • @chromaticmusic
    @chromaticmusic Před 2 lety

    Nice job, just before this video I was about to have to do this exact example video to not talk about it but show the difference. Cheers

  • @mykemech
    @mykemech Před 2 lety +1

    Very nice and informative.

  • @seayhorseDC
    @seayhorseDC Před 11 lety

    very very helpful. thanks for posting this!

  • @mvarge
    @mvarge Před 8 lety +3

    Really useful info, thanks

  • @Bmxmusikian
    @Bmxmusikian Před 5 lety +1

    Brilliant video

  • @bakerzermatt
    @bakerzermatt Před 13 lety

    Thank you very much for all your videos! But it can't have been easy rewiring that semi all the time (I've been there). Keep it up!!

  • @208414
    @208414 Před 10 lety

    This was very helpful. Thanks!

  • @JoelWetzel
    @JoelWetzel Před 4 lety +6

    I'm left wishing you'd covered tone as well as volume pots. Bravo, though, for covering this material better than the other videos I'm working my way through on this pot-induced journey. Peace.

    • @johnplanetz
      @johnplanetz  Před 4 lety +2

      I demonstrated tapers for the tone pot in part 5 of this video series: czcams.com/video/7ANG3OrL5HI/video.html

  • @TallshrewFishing
    @TallshrewFishing Před 6 lety +1

    Excellent video. Thanks pots.

  • @ReneSerna1021
    @ReneSerna1021 Před 4 lety +1

    thank you John!

  • @LeeHoMusic
    @LeeHoMusic Před 6 lety +2

    super helpful video, thank You

  • @josh_ari
    @josh_ari Před 2 lety

    you say there's no way of knowing what a pot sounds like until you try it out, but now there is. thanks for the video

  • @Ispikel
    @Ispikel Před 10 lety

    this helped me out a ton... thanks dude

  • @threedanman
    @threedanman Před 13 lety +1

    Thanks! Only for me it's more interesting to see what a pot does turning it down from full open to a max quarter turn back.
    When playing I turn it about a quarter back to clean the amp up and then turn it open for a solo. On an audio pot that last part sometimes can be a bit too sudden so there is a too small turn needed to get what I want. Then a linear pot works better because that last part is more smooth and you don't need to be so exact. It would be great to see a video of you doing that.

  • @wbesack
    @wbesack Před 13 lety

    @ozboomer - I just ordered a Bourns pot from guitarelectronics. They also sell CTS and Alpha. Best selection I've seen. I totally agree with you on your frustration. No wonder there's a debate over what to use in the tone position if an alpha audio taper is basically linear.

  • @ThatOldMan2112
    @ThatOldMan2112 Před 9 lety

    Thanks, John. That simple demonstration makes this so much more informative than what I've seen so far. May I ask what setting the multimeter needs to be on to test a pot?

  • @mariacastelan3268
    @mariacastelan3268 Před 7 lety +1

    Great info,thanks!!

  • @rodrigomoya2086
    @rodrigomoya2086 Před 7 měsíci +1

    So well explained! thank you very much! Following Already

  • @wbesack
    @wbesack Před 13 lety +1

    @ozboomer - I found Bourns pots at guitarelectronics. They also sell CTS and Alpha. No wonder there is such a debate about whether to use Audio or Linear taper pots on the tone position. It totally depends on the brand. You'd think they'd at least be sort of close.

  • @BiancaOnYoutube
    @BiancaOnYoutube Před 9 lety

    This is very helpful. Thanks

  • @SilverSkyline92
    @SilverSkyline92 Před 14 lety

    well, i needed 3 new pots for another strat I'm building, and i was just going to buy the no load pot for the tone control for the bridge pup, cause i usually do the little jumper to get tone control on the bridge, and its same price so no worries :P and i saw your part 4 vid, its pretty useful, i'll modify my other strat's pots to no load if i like how it turns out. and thanks for these vids, i watched the treble bleed one as well, very good comparisons

  • @mikefarquhar5063
    @mikefarquhar5063 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video! I love tutorials and teaching content on all things I'm interested in, guitars, sound and vision being relevant here, so thank you and I say this with gratitude because I was so close to buying what I thought would be accurate as advertised- audio taper/ logarithmic sweep potentiometers but very likely to be more of a small percentage different in relation to linear pots, I've made that mistake withkut the knowledge it wasnt 100% my iwn fault. These i bought for my stratocaster style guitar build projects, which I would have been disappointed big time if I hadn't looked up on the how what and why and in this vid specifically the whos responseible pots are different only to discover two out of the rest are actually log-A pots.
    I first noticed with my current SSS pup configuration - no names pots mini pots with an "a" stamped on the tone pots and a "b" stamped on the volume pot, and then after buying all necessary components for a new HSS loom I built from alpha pots that the sweep on pretty much all 3 on both looms/pickguards sounded just like how you had demonstrated in this video on the lack of consistency of log-A pits depending on the brand name.
    So I am familiar with Bournemouth they do a lot of very different electronic components, and potentiometers are, if not the least, they are in the least complicated group of components in terms of purpose and design function.
    Electric guitars are very simple compared to most gadgets and gizmos, but the waiting list on bournes website for a bag full of potentiometers is quite long, snd best bought in bulk but still more affordable than if through the middle man market.
    Mist people including myself have to search, study content look for consistency, scour the Internet or if lucky you live near an outlet or find an honest dealer that will sell you the ones that have already been tested and matched, labeled and the added to a detailed inventory.
    I mean it's not aerospace parts we're taking about here (which I think Bournes do make some components for)
    So these parts are not high priority but still obviously a huge market especially for the music industry including amps to mixing desks, guitars to multi effects units.
    I very much hope you would if you can or do have, share a source outside of Bournes and just like I said have the pots already checked and separated and won't rip people of, for this I would be very much grateful.
    Kind regards,
    Mike.

    • @waveawaymusic
      @waveawaymusic Před 11 měsíci

      I don't know a source that individually measures and checks the parts for you. (But I imagine they do this if you buy $$$ boutique wiring harnesses). Meanwhile, you can certainly order Bourns and other pots at mouser, digikey, etc- and just buy a few extras and measure them yourself before installing.

  • @alvin10388
    @alvin10388 Před 12 lety

    Thank you for very helpful video and could you please explain what is logarithmic audio taper and are there any linear taper to match this?your help much apriciated.

  • @sokas
    @sokas Před 7 lety +1

    GREAT GREAT GREAT VID! Thanks!!!

  • @RedJamaX
    @RedJamaX Před 11 lety

    I completely agree with this. I compared Alpha and CTS A250k and A500k pots... A500k works great for volume, but I found that the A250k give you much more control over tone. I made this change on my PRS SE Santana with Santana III pickups... The Santana III's are not really bright pickups to begin with so the 250K vs 500k is not noticeably darker. I will be trying the same thing on my LTD EC400 with Gibson 496R/500T, but I plan to try an A300k instead.

  • @SilverSkyline92
    @SilverSkyline92 Před 14 lety

    hey, i was wondering for my tone controls on my strat, should they be linear or audio? also, i was wondering if you knew whether the CTS no load pots are linear or audio taper?
    thanks

  • @jesseallen38
    @jesseallen38 Před 3 lety

    I was going to put a linear taper volume pot in a guitar I am rebuilding but after seeing your demonstration I think I'll stick with a CTS audio taper. Would be interesting to see how the DiMarzio special audio taper pots size up in your chart. I have them in several guitars but do not really like them....drops off too fast after 10. Thanks for the great demo....

  • @badbass1213
    @badbass1213 Před 9 lety

    Great help, thanks a lot.

  • @ericvilendrer
    @ericvilendrer Před 12 lety

    Great video, thank you.

  • @jelcheson
    @jelcheson Před 11 lety

    great video!

  • @xxXthekevXxx
    @xxXthekevXxx Před 6 lety +2

    Never heard of taper until today. I’ve always hated how quickly the volume shifted upwards. I’ll get an audio taper pot for that smooth volume swell !

    • @TheForce_Productions
      @TheForce_Productions Před 4 lety +1

      Oh yeah, because of that i prefer linear for volume and audio for tones so far.

  • @RedJamaX
    @RedJamaX Před 11 lety

    I'm working on a custom mod of this right now. I've tried the V-treb mentioned below, but I want a higher rated cap for the treble bleed. So I will be trying .002uf, .0047uf, .068uf, and .01uf on different Audio Taper mini-pots rated at 1K, 5K, 10K, 20K, 50K, 100K, 250K and 500K. Also, using a regular pot allows you to put the control at your finger tips instead of having to access the back, or inside of the wiring cavity.

  • @HardWorkingLiver
    @HardWorkingLiver Před 14 lety

    thanks for making this video

  • @smarthalayla1549
    @smarthalayla1549 Před 9 lety

    Hi John. Thanks for the valuable info. My question is about bass guitar, pickup selector vs blend switch. My bass have a pickup selector, and I want to replace it to a blend switch and still keeping the sound as before? Is there any Blend switch that will give a good balanced mix without dropouts of volume between the pickups and the variety of tones when moving it around?

  • @tikka3030
    @tikka3030 Před 9 lety

    Very cool and good info ,some folks say to use linear for tone,and audio for volume,any thoughts there ?

  • @cocomartinievera
    @cocomartinievera Před 12 lety

    very nice videos.. can you do demonstrations for 5 way pups selector especially the otax vlx91? thank you very much.. i really want to know what is the difference of this pup selector in other selectors..

  • @drydog1000
    @drydog1000 Před 14 lety

    which pot should I order for my floyd rose strat--i want to do the Vanhalen volume swells--i was thinking a 500k bourns--i've burnt out the last 2
    thanx

  • @GuitarMan22
    @GuitarMan22 Před 14 lety

    Hi ... Excellent video .. I wanted to know how I can gain more control over my live playing. I need to boost my sound, and i would rather boost by turning up the on board pot. The problem I have is that I play both gain and clean sounds. I have a decent amp with boost. but in higher gain situations I do not get a good vol boost, but just an increase in distortion which is not desireable. I've considered switching out to a log pot in order bring a more dramatic vol increase and decrease.

  • @Jan.Feldmann
    @Jan.Feldmann Před 10 lety

    Great video. Thx a lot!

  • @Timotheedle
    @Timotheedle Před 13 lety

    thank you for your video!!

  • @hansiutub
    @hansiutub Před 10 lety +3

    It also would help to hear the difference between those pots "from 10 to 0", you know... when you need to drive your amplifier from the crunchy to the clean sound or viceversa, directly from your guitar, when you look for that precision that matches your needs (some need high rates of volume loss, some need low rates).
    If you'll decide to do that video, please show a close video recording of the pots whyle another guy is strumming the guitar on the crunchy to clean border of that VT30 ampli. Thanks all the same for this very useful video.
    P.S. Very very nice sounding guitar! GAS attack!

  • @marshallstacks4502
    @marshallstacks4502 Před 9 lety +32

    The linear might as well be an on/off switch!!

    • @rohadtanyad8908
      @rohadtanyad8908 Před 4 lety +1

      i use linear in all my guitars. for volume swells, the quick ones ala van halen (violining), they work far better than audio taper. especially if you are doing it without much gain.

    • @Xxmeca421xX
      @Xxmeca421xX Před 4 lety +1

      @@rohadtanyad8908 Hmm I wondered why someone would want them