Use Analogue Gear Like Plugins In Cubase! All about External Effects!
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- On this video I answer a question that comes up a lot- how to setup your analogue gear as plugins in Cubase the right way!
🎧 🎧 🎧 My latest synthwave single: spoti.fi/33jEGgH - Hudba
I switched from another DAW two years ago, since I tried Cubase, I will never go back! And from people like you, we can really understand the cabability of Cubase! I Love Cubase and your channel! 🙏
Hi Dom, your channel is a must for anyone using cubase, brilliant, I’m just entering into the world of outboards with daw, great explanation, thx for your work my man.
Congratulations, Dom! On the release!!!
Thanks for this Dom, I totally always bussed to a group track, but now render in place is so much better to keep tracks organized, thank you!
This is by far the best video I've seen on this subject. Thank you!
Hi Dom, you rock! This channel is priceless to Cubase users.... but also old studio owners like myself. Suggestion: Monitors! Setting them up properly, staging them for mixing vs. mastering, etc.
Love your channel Dom, superlative!! You're a star!!! I use a Warm WA76 through a neve 1073 pre/EQ via a send/return into an RME UFX+ and its output running to a soundcraft EPM12 analogue mixer. For an alternative mic input, I run through an ART PRO MPA II (AX12 valve change), into a Warm EQP-WA tube EQ out into the RME. Mics are TLM103, NTA1A, AKGP420, Stellar X2 (TZ Audio), SM57 & 58s. Headphones AKG Perfection, Effects are TC Helicon Voicelive Rack and a UAD Quad TB3 Satellite (I use the Lexicon480L reverb plugin on that, nothing else comes close in my relative opinion ofcourse). Running Cubase 10.5 Pro controlled via a Presonus Faderport 16, into a scan (flight case compatible 4U) computer, i9 10-core 32Gb Ram with an EditorsKeys slimline backlit keyboard specifically for Cubase. Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol M32 keyboard controller, KRK Rockit 5s, although I mainly mix through the headphones. Misc software I mainly use Trigger 2 for drums and Scalar 2 for gathering ideas generally. However, nothing compared to your sensational crazy cool setup!!!!!
Very glad you made this video Dom! I also run a UFX and thought i was doing something wrong because I also return 0 when doing a latency compensation test. Cheers to you my friend!
I have 2 Aphex Aural Exciters, BBE Maximizer 482i, 2 Yamaha Rev 100's, Eventide FL-201 Instant Flanger, and Behringer Ultradyne 9024 and a Boss RV-70. Gear from the '80's... Still working great! Thanks Dom!
For the time being I'm 100% in the box. But you never can tell. 😍 Great Dom, thanks ever so much!
Thanks for the video - I’m using SSL Fusion, WA EQP, KT EQP and WA Bus Comp with Cubase 11pro. I also switched to the much more flexible soundcard RME Fireface 802 so I’m done with UR44 - this was the best decision I’ve ever made.
This is a super video. This has always been a mystery to me. I need a lot of hand holding. thank you so so much!!
“Saturation = Good!” -Well said🤙🏼
Hi Dom! I have been listening to your music creations on Spotify. You have a great sense of balance so that all sounds can be heard clearly, which I think is missing in so much music today. I do have a suggestion, which of course is only my preference. In "Behind the Wall" I feel that Delido's voice should have a little less reverb and the volume should be slightly higher so she is brought forward in the mix. Her role is of more importance then everything else to some extent. The same in "Cosmic Parenthesis", as well as the guitar solo.
Be well!
I'm looking forward to this video. Can you soon do one about integrating external instruments, please? :-)
I'd like this too - I have quite a few external synths and am running out of a way to have them all connected to Cubase all the time. Bigger interface? (I already have 8 stereo channels) or USB mixer?
@@awpMusic1 both. I went for ADAT and a PatchBay..... So having 16 ADATs plus my RME I/O (about 12) , that was supposed to be enough: It never is. So I've been in your position so I hope this helps: (though, it's been a year, you must already have resolved this)
- So, the patchbay I use to momentarily patch the least used synths....
-Also I have another extra 8 ADATs exclusively for the DRUMs that I can swtch with Toslink manual switches and that is GREAT!
@@MarcoPolux hi - I did resolve it - I eventually got a Presonus StudioLive Series lll Rack Mixer with 32 channels. Very happy with it.
Thank you, Dom for your video and congratulations for the new super AMAZING dancing song! You're fantastic composer! ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Hey Dom, thank you for this tip..!!
Congratulation, your videos have an amazing quality..
Mannnn I had to play that pushed analog gear kick back a few times - sounded lovely
thanks Dom! Did this with my Boss Digital Delay DE200 and my Autocom MDX1200 which works great as a noise gate for my '76 Strat!
The BBE882i too, is on my MR816csx.
The Favorites feature for External FX is cool to save settings.
Cant' wait to try this. Thx Dom!
解决了困扰我多年的totalmix的设置问题，谢谢Dom!
Man your tutorials are just amazing! Just subscribed your channel! 🙏
Welcome my friend!
All I have in my external chain is a Moog delay, but I use it all the time. I can clock it and automate it directly from Cubase (it's the 104M), love how convenient that is. Hardware with midi control is just like plugins, minus interface.
A fantastic tutorial, thank you!
Thanks for this tutorial, very clear! I wish for a future update they could add a wet/dry mix knob for the return - helpful for if you want to add an external effects unit as an insert rather than send, but dial the mix to taste. Fingers crossed for Cubase13!
This was soo helpful . More of this and how to route with cabels also 👍👍🤘🤘
I'm using this with my Neve Shelford Channel. Works perfectly!
+Chris Gates ooooh that’s a tasty piece! How do you like it?
Thanks for the video!
Simple and master peace technique 🔥🔥🔥💪
Thanks again so very good, awesome even!😄
as far as I understand the audio_interface out --> in latency is automatically compensated !!!
that's cool !!!
I have had the same experience as Alexandru, below. However, the reason I think Cubase has “stuck” for me is Dom and Chris Selim’s tutorials. Once I saw their stuff, a light switch just went on and I decided I wasn’t going to be intimidated by the software anymore.
Dom, there’s something about hour delivery that makes it feel like no big deal and fun! That’s what made the difference for me. And as a reward I get to use Supervision and all the other cool stuff that I used to pine for while sticking with another DAW.
Love your videos m8.
It would be great if you could do a video about how you get the great width in your music. (is it a bit more than LCR maybe? :D )
Stay safe!
You’re amazing!!!
Hi Dom,
thanks,
cubase is the easiest and the most flexible daw when it comes to use my external API, BAE & RND hardware.
I think I learn more from your channel than from any other source (esp Cubase, Montage topics). Thank you Dom.
Thank it works well. For my part, it doesn’t create any loop on the antelope Orion gen 4. So happy ! Thank you
clear explanation ...thanx
Oh man thank you!!!!
I have a DBX166, 2x 1176 Compressors (clones) and a ART Pro Vla II tube compressor hooked up to my AXR4 + ADAT. I also have a Nord Rack 2x Synth and KORG minilogue xd on the way :). The simple way to get those hardware boxes into Cubase is a breeze. I love it.
@Redford music , does the delay compensation button work for you on the External FX? Thanks
I switched from Digital Performer to Cubase Pro this year . I prefer Cubase’ s far more intuitive handling of external MIDI Instruments and external effects. I have all my outboard (Lexicon PCM81 & 91 , TC Reverb 4000, Bricasti System One and Drawmer Masterflow 2476) connected via AES to a MOTU 112D and it works flawlessly.
Thanks Dom. Great video. Gosh! I just could not get this working with my hardware unit. Using a Focusrite Clarett 8Pre into Cubase 12 Pro. I've missed something somewhere.
Thanks for the video! I got an API Channel Strip as my first piece of outboard gear, but my Scarlett 2i2 doesn't have the I/O to accommodate inserts. Looks like I'll be upgrading soon!
Update: upgraded to Clarett+ Pre 4. Time to get this API gear working.
Thanks!!
another great video Dom! Can i ask what the controller is on the left hand side of your computer keyboard?
Thanks
Thanks Dom. Quick question.... do you lose any of the analogue sound from your external effect by the fact that you have to convert the audio back to digital to bring it back into Cubase? Thanks.
Thank you for this informative video :) I have one question: If I have
very much gain on the outboard output, then it would overload my
converters in the interface right? And how can the return gain help,
because i thought that this comes after the converters? So when i adjust
that, it doesn't make the overloading unhappen?
Hi Dom!
Is it possible to add internal plugins after the external plugin chain?
For example, could you put a regular plugin after the Black Box Analogue plugin and how would that work?
Thanks
well well well this looks like a dream BUT the 0 ms delay displayed is often WRONG !!! Cubase is just unable to ping correctly. I did the test with cubase 10 and my fireface ucx : it s obvious when you play the others tracks with the one where you did the hardware insert there s a big problem (and in this video you just hear the track alone.....) !!! I was a huge fan of cubase over 20 years. I was fed up with this problem which is a BIG ONE and recently tried on REAPER ; what a surprised, in the same configuration the ping is well done and delay compensated. At this occasion i discovered REAPER , and was so sad to haven t discovered it earlier....
great! I use different external gears but actually I need to use BOSS RC-202 Loop Station as external gear in Cubase 10.5 to loop some of my VST instruments parts I play with midi controller. Is it the same settings u've shown in this video also for this type of gear, the Boss Rc202?
Thanks a lot for your videos! cheers
hey dom, thanks for this great video!! I have one question: is it normal that my DSP display increases significantly when I load the external plugin as an insert? Thanks and Regards
Hi Dom, Is this the only way? Just to be clear in my head, Do you have to add it as a insert or send? Thanks a million.
Hello Dom. Thank you for the video , I have the same audio interface... :). I own the Fireface UFX too, a powerful tool, the only thing that I change of this is the power supply that is Brocken after 9 years.
I wanna ask you please about the external unites that are you using for the mastering chain. Thank you
Hey Dom, thanks for the instructions. I'm having a hard time here - I've followed all your directions. I cannot hear audio when the plugin is engaged. I thought maybe this could be many things in the chain but, I am seeing audio coming in, on 3/4 on my Universal audio (UI for the interface) for my Presonus Interface. What do you think could possibly be the issue?
Thanks for sharing! One question, when I use the send return fader in the external fx plug it seems to be global. Because when i start a new session with the external plugin, cubase shows me the exact same send return value from the session before. Totally useless for me. Any Idea?
Great video thx; can this also be done in Cubase Elements?
Hay Dom love your videos man I recently upgraded from Cubase 5 to Cubase 11, absolutely loving 11. I have a question, I own an MPC One and Komplete Kontrol S49 MK 2 as my controller/ digital instrument, so the question is, when I open Cubase 11 and then open up the MPC 64 bit software within as an instrument It won't let me record the sample i chopped on the mpc to cubase i know im missing a trick somewhere any help would be greatly appreciated. One Love from Ireland
I have a apollo twin X can i do that using. A patch bay?
Dear Dom, I found out that my UR 44 which I love, has reserved two of the 6 sendbus as FX Bus (UR FX Bus L and UR FX Bus R) . I need these channels to connect a pair of speakers and wanted to use then the outputs 1 and 2 from UR44, but I can’t change the FX into a normal sendbus. How can I do this? Please answer me , maybe this will be also interesting for other RR 44 users. Thank you Jerryl
is there a difference (like more simple) to use an effect track with the external processing - like in the gred ondo video?
Cool,I can set up Ableton Live as an effect.
Is this the same process if you want to setup eurorack effects as send/return? For some reason I thought I would be in the send/return columns instead of a plugin.
Could you compare the MR816csx Channel Strip Morphing with the BBE882i Sonic Maximizer? Are they both a compressor and EQ combination. Why does the Channel Strip sound so good? Thanks!
When using hardware as inserts does it capture and process it during exporting ? Or its better to capture and print back into the DAW?
Behind The Wall single is amazing SUPERRRR!!!!!!
Dom Who is the performer of this song?
Hi I've setup external FX in cubase 11. I do see audio is coming in on my hardware but no sound in cubase. I use saffire sound card. I also do this in logic and that's working fine. Can't find what the problem is in cubase. Is it the sound card setup?
Hi Dom, im using ur816c and preamp heritage ha73 eq, but when i connect In, Out to enternal fx, the signal is so bad, its look like the micro opposite to speaker, im testing on ur rt4 too, but not working, pls help me, thanks.
Hi King of Cubase,
I have two questions:
Should I put my hardware delay 100% wet like in a Send FX with a plug in ?
What if I want to send only a guitare (mono) and have a return stereo from my hardware delay ? Does Cubase send it only through the Left RCA output from my audio interface ?
I hope my english isn't too bad too understand what I mean
And thank you a lot for your work
How youdo you have sound when you rendering in place? Do you use control room? Is it possible to have sound at rendering in place without control room? i think i had it but suddenly
Do you always run to external plugins in stereo or can you run out in mono. What problems can arise if treating one channel at a time should you only have single channel outboard hardware?
Hi Dom, huge fan of your channel! I have a question if you don't mind: I recently switched to a Mac Studio M2, and since then all my routing and external fx dont't work. ie: my Warm Audio bus comp receives signal from the DAW (the meter's needle moves) but can't route that signal back into cubase. The audio INs that should loop back to cubase don't work, I tried the same configuration and routing back to my old mac pro, and they work! I'm using Apogee Quartet + Clarett+8Pre in tandem as aggregate device, both cards with additional ADAT ins and outs from ASP880 units. I've been trying everything for 3 days now, if you or anyone reading this has suggestions....please help! :)
Can i send a mono signal into a spx 90 and print the stereo fx ? The spx has stereo outs but i cant print it in stereo
Am I right in thinking that you master in Cubase instead of Wavelab? Mulling Cubase currently as a Reaper user.
Hi Dom, is it possible that these external effects then spikes my permormance meter in cubase?
andro here from Sydney Australia, I was wondering if you might be able to help me, I have loaded a session from another user on Cubase 12 still here
And I’ve lost settings I’ve customized in my set up
One which is a big deal I use a lot of external hardware 64 in 64 out with external effects compressors, EQs etc
I lost all the connections
It’s such a pain to have to do this again simply because I am loading a project not done on my main machine
Now I’m really worried to load someone’s material in the fear of losing settings.. the worst part is you can’t save it as a preset in the connections for external effects
Is there a work around or something in the settings so that if I load something it won’t load anything but the project ?
Thanks a lot
Hi Dom, does this work as a send effect on an fx track? The problem with the insert is that it can only be used in one track at once.
Are there any different settings needed in the audio interface control panel? I found it quite fiddly to get things set up properly as an insert on the AXR4T.
I’m guessing if this works, the hardware would need to return 100% wet? I’m trying to hook in my new Strymon BigSky!
Just to answer my own question as I've finally worked it out! Yes, this can be done and it's working great.
One thing to do on the Strymon was to change the config and in the Dry Signal settings, switch this to kill mode (avoids double monitoring of the dry signal), I then set the the mix to 100% and can then adjust send levels from my tracks like a normal FX track send.
The AXR4T control panel changes all seemed a bit of hit and miss, but I think I've done the got it working sensibly with Control Room and the FX tracks.
* I muted all inputs on all pairs of outputs as these are monitored through Cubase anyway.
* On each pair of outputs, I set the equivalent actuall output to 0db and muted the other pairs of DAW outputs. (so when I switch monitors in control room, I only get to hear through one set)
* I made sure in the output section, that the FX send channel is not muted and set to 0db
I saved this as a preset called Cubase and this seems to work great when in cubase. I can add an instrument or audio track and then add an FX Send to the BigSky and I get to hear the reverb
Outside of Cubase, If i switch the mixer to view settings for the FX Output. I can unmute any of inputs that I want to monitor with BigSky effects. I then just need to unmute the BigSky FX return input on the Output settings for the speakers I'm using.
The key thing seems to be to avoid turning up the FX return on the FX Output, for obvious reasons :)
I think what made this more complicated was that I was trying to do this with some dodgy wiring in my patch bay. This video was really useful czcams.com/video/0SR35r9uWnk/video.html having all my devices that output a signal on the top, made it much easier to work out what was flowing where :)
Hi Dom..so your Portico is the preamp right? I have UAD 6176 and would like to use it as external effects on Antelope Orion Synergy Core. So basically, the setup is the same only I need to select mono? UAD 6176 only has one input and one output though.
Yes, just use it as a mini external effect! Make sure you only add it to mono channels otherwise one channel is not going to be processed when in stereo :)
How would be your send return settings for an external bus compressor?
Regarding the return gain: as far as I understand, it only reduces the gain inside cubase, like a simple gain plugin, doesn’t it? If the signal from your external processor is too hot, you still might need to reduce the input level of your audio interface to prevent possible clipping of the inputs.
Yeah, if it hits the actual converters too hot, there's nothing Cubase can do beyond turning down the clipped signal. Plenty of options for attenuation, though.
What if we want to do it with our primary mic analog preamp?
Also, do you think that it would be a bad idea to do this with a preamp? I was asking about this to some people in different groups online, and they thought I was insane because I wanted to be able to choose between analog and VST plugins for the Mic.
I do not see why that would be an issue because basically you would be treating it like a channel strip that people overpay for in the vst world. Likely you would get better results doing it that way.
I only has two columns in the connection setting. Input and output. Is it different in cubase 11 ?
OMG dude your screaming at the beginning over my recording studio speakers I thought I was going to shit the chair.
Bro can you please help? I am trying to use mono insert with hardware compressor and eq in pro tools with my lynx hilo, is this not possible ? Not in pro tools nor in cubase? I bought the hilo because i read that it has two inputs and two outputs available that work independantly. Please help
I would like to see more about the steinberg audio interface you are using there is not much on youtube about it and I am considering getting it because of the specs and the silk integration.
Hey Edward, what would you like to know? :)
@@DomSigalas How much space does it use when recording at the highest settings also the sound of the converters without your...other ad/da running...and some real life silk examples
@@edwardbrands3271 Aaaah at 384khz/32bit files are pretty large. For me the most important thing is the Silks- I have the actual neve unit and they sound really REALLY close. I've done some recordings of it on the Steinberg Interfaces channel (recorded a band and a string quartet maybe you can check them out to check the sound quality :)
@@DomSigalas Than you
Please am using presonus 16.0.2 mixer,and I want to be using it to mix on cubase
Quick question, So lets say I have guitar pedal (ocean Machine by Moog) and want to use it on a plug in such as U-He Diva to get big synth sounds. Do I have to fiddle around with the latency compensation or does Cubase does it for me? Amazing videos by the way, definitely subscribed!
Hey Eddie!
I do this all the time, Cubase pretty much does everything for you if you set the inserts correctly ;)
Is it possible to set up a comfort reverb on an external unit but not print the reverb?
i am having a problem with latency on the return dont know whats going on im following you step by step but still having latency ...i have a motu 8 pre es and an apollo twin and its doing it with both please help ...i bought all thios analog gear and hate to just stay in the box ...please help
Hi Dom, thanks for another great tutorial. I'm using analogue SSL EQ and compressor as outboard gear. I'm familiar with all connections and how to use it as a plugin. But when I click for delay compensation it also shows 0.0ms, is it possible? Cables are quite long (2 metres) and no delay? It showed only ones 5ms delay (long time ago and I never changed the cables or anything) , but after that everytime when I click it shows 0.0ms. Thought that there was some problem, but you also had 0.0. How's that possible that there is no delay?
i have the same problem. Ive read somewhere that there is a bug . my copressor 1 time showed .0,06 delay. but its not doing it anymore.
Can you please do a video for External actual synths, drum machines etc, because there is no way to ping for the delay like we can on effects module, I noticed you have all your keyboards connected, how do you ping them so that cubase adjusts for the latency, if you have a full studio with lot of keyboards etc, each instruments is going to have different latency when using Midi, no one has done video about this in Cubase, you can do it in Bitwig very easily.
Could make a video of the best free plugins.
Please
I would be surprised if people based on this video gets it going since things can be quite complicated in the control panel of the Interface in order to get it up and running. Dom since you are using RME. Can you show us how to set it up in the interface`? Thanks for great videos
Nice video but you brushed over the delay ping because your Black Box didn't need it. You should have at least described what the purpose of that feature is used for. Other than that, great video.
Hello, cubase artist has group fx external fx tab?
Hi Don, I do not see an ADAT input on the HG2… how did you connect the RME and the HG2 then? Are you using an intermediary interface? Sorry for such a ridiculous question :)
Hi Eddy, I am using another converter connected to ADAT (Lynx Hilo) and this does the digital to analogue conversion :)
@@DomSigalas thank you so much Don
Anyone now hoe can I print only the Wet external FX signal? At this moment, with the render in place the dry and wet sginal are put together. I want to render only de resulted reverb on a track. Is the only way to to this is to route the return in to an physical audio input and record into another track?
Question, when i go to use my outboard gear Pro VLA II compressor say on a kick drum, my interface shows it's clipping. I have the gain turned all the down on the interface channel I'm using. If I use the the sliders as you did here to remove the clipping, I lose to much volume and can't here the nice low end when put back in the full mix. How do I correct that issue? Or should I not worry about it as long as it sounds good, even with the clipping interface?
Thank you Dom
Andy Tullis
Hi Andy! This sounds to me like a level mismatch issue. If you bypass the compressor (hardware bypass) does it still show clipping? Most of the times professional equipment required a +4 balanced connection level (compared to -10dbV) so you might be mismatching on the way in (compressor sends +4dbu and your input is set at -10). If this is the case this should be remedied first for sure. As a rule, I would avoid clipping the converters unless you know what you’re doing :)
@@DomSigalas thank you, on the back of the VLA II it has a -10/+4 switch, I'll try switching it. 🙂 Thank you again!
@@DomSigalas give you an update, switching to -10dbv helped a little. But what i found was that I had changed out the tubes in my compressor but I never did a proper re-balancing of them. So I used the test tone plugin in cubase to achieve a -12db line and that gave me the proper headroom. Thank you again for pointing me in a direction.
Andy Tullis
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One Question: I have a section called: Stereo effect Loop. There is just one send and one return. Doi need a Y-plug? My Audio Interface has Mono ins and outs its the"Focusrite Lquid Saffire 56" i hope somone can help me.