Oh, what a great video. A lifetime of experience condensed into 15 minutes. I really appreciate the time you devoted to pass on the valuable information - thank you! Bill.
Hands down, as a new lathe owner, this is my GO-TO channel. As someone who never did anything with a lathe, the education I'm getting is priceless. I can also see that the channel is not just for the beginner, and I look forward to learning from the more advanced videos. I think I'll buy on of the courses as a "thank you" for all of the amazing free content!
Thank you once again for your thorough video demonstrations. The pacing is well thought out, to the point and full of information. I am a teacher as well and am attuned to such things. Watching your videos has encouraged me to try my hand at new tools and techniques. Thanks.
THANKS For RePosting this Video I watch alot of them several times and this is another good one to refer back to I enjoyed the different tools one can use
"There's always a moron in every shop who attempts to grind aluminum." Today, I was that moron :( Was excited to use my new Dremel tool to grind a chromed clamp this afternoon to make something else out of it. After I inadvertently and unknowingly ruined the grinding-stone bit, I used the same Dremel bit to round-off the corners of a piece of square, aluminum tubing. Finally realized what I did. Thankfully, tubalcain is here to show me the way. Thanks for your videos!
I was just about to come down here and say "'There's always a moron in every shop who attempts to grind aluminium.'... Howdy!" ... but you got here first. I suppose there's a lot of us morons around! ;)
noslenpar you can grind aluminum, we do it with our surface grinders, you have to use a special wax that you embed in the wheel and you need to also use the right wheel. it's necessary when doing aluminium cylinder heads
I used to rebuild J&S Tool Fluidmotion Wheel Dressers so I appreciate your video. Wheel dressing is as you point out a critical part of the process in precision work. I should have swiped one of those dresser gadgets when I worked at J&S. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess ... Now sometimes I use a broken piece of grinder wheel or a carborundum stick. I need to up my game so thanks for sharing some of the holders you have.
I don't make it a habit to criticize or correct other machinists about the way they do things. Nothing but respect for Mr. Pete. His channel is an invaluable resource for just about anything workshop related and more. That said, I believe he is dead wrong about using a star wheel dresser in the manner shown at 2:45, putting the feet of the tool between the toolrest and the grinding wheel. That could be a disaster. You really don't want anything in that gap. Keep it as small as possible. In a workplace environment the gap needs to be less than 1/8" per OSHA 1926.303(c)(2) so you definitely don't want put the tool in there at work. Just set the feet on top of the toolrest and, in my experience, it works fine.
Hi, you use led bulbs the vibration will not bother them, they do not have a filament, you can drop them on the floor, I did, and it worked just fine. Regards, Edgar
Good show! I moved my big bench grinder and chainsaw bar grinder into an open outdoor shed, built for the dusty purpose. Now I'm looking for a reasonably priced diamond point dresser. They do wear out!
I thought I was the only one who thought about dressing the grinding wheels great video . I learned a lot more than I did know thank you .I wish more people would care to take the time to show the younger generation that not every thing is a throwaway just buy a new one . Do you remember the card files that got the junk out of the files instead of just throwing them a way ? When i worked in industrial machine shop in the 80s I could not believe the amount of wast in what they threw out . There idea was go to the tool cage and get a new one .I guess its the old adage time is money and its ok if someone else is buying the tools . Im sorry I shouldent stand on my soap box and criticize the way some peaple think . I hope to see more of your videos in the future and thanks again for the informative video
Thanks much Mr. Pete you always make things so clear. Every time i watch one of your videos I think the same thoughts: 1, Why didn't I think of that? 2) Why was I doing that wrong for so many years? 3) How does one man know all of that? Keep doing what your doing and if you get a chance talk a look at my video Bridgeport J head VSR and let me know if I have potential.
I have become a big fan of your videos. So helpful and detailed. I just read Genesis 4:22 and I guess that's where your nickname came from. Love it, sir!
I'm glad you repost this video also; I accidentally forgot to watch the first run! Whenever possible I think you should have a grinder room, most of the shops, I had worked at, in the yards always had a separate area for grinding equipment. Most of us with small shop fight for all are space, we got now, as it is and can’t swing that kind of space! I like your tip on covering or creating a barrier so the grit doesn’t travel to machinery ways and slides, nearby! Respect your tools ;{)---
You might find your wheel dressing less jerky if you tilted the rest downwards slightly (at the wheel side) , so that the diamond is used in the trailing mode, which is the way it generally recommended they be used.
Love your videos buddy, they are truly a wealth of knowledge that is quickly being lost and hard to learn otherwise. Been a machinist going on a decade no, largely self taught but there are just some things even as what seems as simple as wheel care that is entirely ignored in this world of throwaway inserts. Cheers
All useful knowledge gained. I take my bench-grinder outdoors on a breezy day and do the job from up-wind. I then blow the thing clean with the air-line. While the grinder is outside I can clear the grinding dust away indoors.
I've been using pedestal grinders for years and never knew there were so many different (and precise) ways to dress wheels. The only method I knew of was the disc-type dressers. I ran a blanchard grinder before and it used a disc-type dresser too. I suppose if you're grinding something where you need big, precise flats, like a threading tool, it would be nice to have a perfectly flat and true wheel.
Thanks for the tips MrPete. I'm not sure if you've done a video or not on these, but Rudy Kouhoupt made a dandy jig that allows you to grind compound angles on lathe tools. Here's a variation of his jig else on youtube someone built. Bench grinder tool rest - part 3 Skip to about 4:20 of his video to see it in action. Here's a link to Rudy's video, which includes a blueprint on the jig smartflix.com/store/video/58/Grinding-Lathe-Tools I built one (although it's much uglier than the one I included the video for.) With the protractor holder, you can align any simple diamond holder at a right angle and do a perfect dressing every time. It's also easy to set perfect angles for grinding lathe tools, which is a boon to beginners and experienced hands as well.
I'm a bit confused here. I already watched this video a few days ago. Has something been changed in this version? In any case, it's informative and useful. Thanks for your efforts.
I see the diamond point tool has created the most dust. Is it the fastest dresser, the one that removes the most of the material? Also, what about the carat grading of the diamonds. I suppose the smaller the number it wears off quickly or it has less of the power to remove the material as quick as the higher grade diamond.
Very helpful video. Thanks. I Just bought a used grinder that is shimmying across the table. Will truing the wheel resolve this? Do I need to remove the wheel and try to rebalance as many people suggest? Both wheels are almost new but one has an obvious lump.
That "spark guard" at the top of the wheel is actually a guard to help minimize the colossal damage during a grinding wheel explosion. It stops pieces of the rotating wheel from shooting out and turning you into meatloaf.
Thank God for other craftsmen who have more/different experience! I have only a cheap star wheel dresser from Harder Fate, and hate the dust on everything and my Harley. Question: I also have a three plate HF "diamond" sharpening set (only good for bevel changes & really dull knives). Could I use one of them on my wheels if I build on some type of holder for the 🔧 tool rest?
Would you consider the dressing dust to be cool enough to (try to) collect with a shop-vac while dressing, or is there still a chance of a spark or hot fragment that could ignite crud in the shop-vac? I've always wondered about this and taken the cautious route of just letting the dust fly.
Sorry chum, if you are looking for perfection you will have to look elsewhere, but I have dressed enough wheels to know that diamond dressers are used trailing!
I saw someone grind aluminum and filled the stones till it fractured at high RPM's! He was lucky not to have gotten it in his face. Some kind of "hydo fracking" went on there.
Although I do agree that Delta is now a line of truly inferior shop equipment, their solid tools were made in Guelph Ontario by Black & Decker, who then sold to the Chinese (who mined the shit out of Delta's value). It was a Canadian affair, not American
Oh, what a great video.
A lifetime of experience condensed into 15 minutes.
I really appreciate the time you devoted to pass on the valuable information - thank you! Bill.
Thanks
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. This world needs more people like you.
Hands down, as a new lathe owner, this is my GO-TO channel. As someone who never did anything with a lathe, the education I'm getting is priceless. I can also see that the channel is not just for the beginner, and I look forward to learning from the more advanced videos. I think I'll buy on of the courses as a "thank you" for all of the amazing free content!
Thanks for watching!!
Excellent video Lyle, great to see different dressers being used and tips on how to use them and the grinder.
I like learning from somebody who doesn't talk to me like I'm stupid, just because I don't know all this to start. Thanks!
Thank you for recording and posting this interesting and educational video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you once again for your thorough video demonstrations. The pacing is well thought out, to the point and full of information. I am a teacher as well and am attuned to such things. Watching your videos has encouraged me to try my hand at new tools and techniques. Thanks.
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THANKS For RePosting this Video I watch alot of them several times and this is another good one to refer back to I enjoyed the different tools one can use
"There's always a moron in every shop who attempts to grind aluminum."
Today, I was that moron :(
Was excited to use my new Dremel tool to grind a chromed clamp this afternoon to make something else out of it. After I inadvertently and unknowingly ruined the grinding-stone bit, I used the same Dremel bit to round-off the corners of a piece of square, aluminum tubing.
Finally realized what I did. Thankfully, tubalcain is here to show me the way. Thanks for your videos!
+RIPSAW1986 Thank--you are not a moron!
I was just about to come down here and say "'There's always a moron in every shop who attempts to grind aluminium.'... Howdy!" ... but you got here first.
I suppose there's a lot of us morons around! ;)
What do you use to "grind" aluminum? I deal with it on a very small scale and have to remove material. Usually costs me a dremel sanding drum or two.
Lol! "There's always some moron in every shop who attempts to grind aluminum" that was me until I saw this video.
Good video very helpful.
Glad I caught you!
noslenpar you can grind aluminum, we do it with our surface grinders, you have to use a special wax that you embed in the wheel and you need to also use the right wheel. it's necessary when doing aluminium cylinder heads
I used to rebuild J&S Tool Fluidmotion Wheel Dressers so I appreciate your video. Wheel dressing is as you point out a critical part of the process in precision work. I should have swiped one of those dresser gadgets when I worked at J&S. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess ... Now sometimes I use a broken piece of grinder wheel or a carborundum stick. I need to up my game so thanks for sharing some of the holders you have.
I don't make it a habit to criticize or correct other machinists about the way they do things. Nothing but respect for Mr. Pete. His channel is an invaluable resource for just about anything workshop related and more. That said, I believe he is dead wrong about using a star wheel dresser in the manner shown at 2:45, putting the feet of the tool between the toolrest and the grinding wheel. That could be a disaster. You really don't want anything in that gap. Keep it as small as possible. In a workplace environment the gap needs to be less than 1/8" per OSHA 1926.303(c)(2) so you definitely don't want put the tool in there at work. Just set the feet on top of the toolrest and, in my experience, it works fine.
Thanks for sharing this! It was very informative.
I enjoy going back and watching Tubalcain before he became a YT Super Star!!!
lol
I always put the coarse wheel on the right side, and the fine on the left. Just works easier in my shop that way! Great video!
Good information. Always educational. Thanks
Hi, you use led bulbs the vibration will not bother them, they do not have a filament, you can drop them on the floor, I did, and it worked just fine. Regards, Edgar
Mrx9999999 but 30 or 40 years ago they good quality light bulbs!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Good show! I moved my big bench grinder and chainsaw bar grinder into an open outdoor shed, built for the dusty purpose. Now I'm looking for a reasonably priced diamond point dresser. They do wear out!
I thought I was the only one who thought about dressing the grinding wheels great video . I learned a lot more than I did know thank you .I wish more people would care to take the time to show the younger generation that not every thing is a throwaway just buy a new one . Do you remember the card files that got the junk out of the files instead of just throwing them a way ? When i worked in industrial machine shop in the 80s I could not believe the amount of wast in what they threw out . There idea was go to the tool cage and get a new one .I guess its the old adage time is money and its ok if someone else is buying the tools . Im sorry I shouldent stand on my soap box and criticize the way some peaple think . I hope to see more of your videos in the future and thanks again for the informative video
Thank you, that's a good comment. And so true
Thanks much Mr. Pete you always make things so clear. Every time i watch one of your videos I think the same thoughts:
1, Why didn't I think of that? 2) Why was I doing that wrong for so many years? 3) How does one man know all of that? Keep doing what your doing and if you get a chance talk a look at my video Bridgeport J head VSR and let me know if I have potential.
Any buddy who says nifty little idea has me sold old timers we need more of you guys the breed is dying out.
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I have become a big fan of your videos. So helpful and detailed. I just read Genesis 4:22 and I guess that's where your nickname came from. Love it, sir!
excellent and informative as always, thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
I'm glad you repost this video also; I accidentally forgot to watch the first run! Whenever possible I think you should have a grinder room, most of the shops, I had worked at, in the yards always had a separate area for grinding equipment. Most of us with small shop fight for all are space, we got now, as it is and can’t swing that kind of space! I like your tip on covering or creating a barrier so the grit doesn’t travel to machinery ways and slides, nearby! Respect your tools ;{)---
Keith Fenner How about in the new shop? Do you have enough room to separate the grinders from the machine tools?
You might find your wheel dressing less jerky if you tilted the rest downwards slightly (at the wheel side) , so that the diamond is used in the trailing mode, which is the way it generally recommended they be used.
Love your videos buddy, they are truly a wealth of knowledge that is quickly being lost and hard to learn otherwise. Been a machinist going on a decade no, largely self taught but there are just some things even as what seems as simple as wheel care that is entirely ignored in this world of throwaway inserts. Cheers
+Полиграфович Thanks for watching
All useful knowledge gained. I take my bench-grinder outdoors on a breezy day and do the job from up-wind. I then blow the thing clean with the air-line. While the grinder is outside I can clear the grinding dust away indoors.
+nlo114 Good idea-sometimes I take my little sander out & do dusty jobs outdoors
I've been using pedestal grinders for years and never knew there were so many different (and precise) ways to dress wheels. The only method I knew of was the disc-type dressers. I ran a blanchard grinder before and it used a disc-type dresser too. I suppose if you're grinding something where you need big, precise flats, like a threading tool, it would be nice to have a perfectly flat and true wheel.
Excellent informative presentation. I've learned so much from you! "Liked and subscribed". Thank you
I reposted this video after accidentally deleting the original.
Thanks for the tips MrPete. I'm not sure if you've done a video or not on these, but Rudy Kouhoupt made a dandy jig that allows you to grind compound angles on lathe tools.
Here's a variation of his jig else on youtube someone built. Bench grinder tool rest - part 3 Skip to about 4:20 of his video to see it in action.
Here's a link to Rudy's video, which includes a blueprint on the jig smartflix.com/store/video/58/Grinding-Lathe-Tools
I built one (although it's much uglier than the one I included the video for.) With the protractor holder, you can align any simple diamond holder at a right angle and do a perfect dressing every time. It's also easy to set perfect angles for grinding lathe tools, which is a boon to beginners and experienced hands as well.
Geiger makes a version of the larger tool that you use to dress the wheel on the Stanley grinder. I think Amazon sells them for about $80.
Nice Craftsman Block Grinder.
That Craftsman grinder is the exact same grinder I'm dressing today.
I reconized a word in your name. Howdy brother! Havagudun bud.
I'm a bit confused here. I already watched this video a few days ago. Has something been changed in this version? In any case, it's informative and useful. Thanks for your efforts.
nice tips
Excellent video, thanks.
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i found that unsalted (less corrosive) sticks of butter does the trick for me
good video with alot of good crap in it.
I see the diamond point tool has created the most dust. Is it the fastest dresser, the one that removes the most of the material? Also, what about the carat grading of the diamonds. I suppose the smaller the number it wears off quickly or it has less of the power to remove the material as quick as the higher grade diamond.
Please make a video of all your bench grinders. Thank you.
Very helpful video. Thanks. I Just bought a used grinder that is shimmying across the table. Will truing the wheel resolve this? Do I need to remove the wheel and try to rebalance as many people suggest? Both wheels are almost new but one has an obvious lump.
That "spark guard" at the top of the wheel is actually a guard to help minimize the colossal damage during a grinding wheel explosion. It stops pieces of the rotating wheel from shooting out and turning you into meatloaf.
It's a spark guard. Like the man said.
Another tip when replacing grinding wheels do a "RING TEST" to check for cracks in wheel
Yes
Thank God for other craftsmen who have more/different experience!
I have only a cheap star wheel dresser from Harder Fate, and hate the dust on everything and my Harley.
Question: I also have a three plate HF "diamond" sharpening set (only good for bevel changes & really dull knives). Could I use one of them on my wheels if I build on some type of holder for the 🔧 tool rest?
I do not like the star type
Thank you for showing:)
+ELSDP-45 Thanks for watching
Can you not use a vacuum to suck all the dust as you dress?
4:52 Geiger model 7575 dressing tool. Nice videos.
Would you consider the dressing dust to be cool enough to (try to) collect with a shop-vac while dressing, or is there still a chance of a spark or hot fragment that could ignite crud in the shop-vac? I've always wondered about this and taken the cautious route of just letting the dust fly.
Yes, it could start a fire
You tip the hutington up to grind wheels. .You don't use it horizontal from side to side
Unfortunately I haven't seen anything else in hardware stores but the wheel type dresser for a long time. I guess the Chinese don't have diamonds.
sounds like there is a rattle in the holder, either too loose or blunt diamond
thanks. what about dressing-stones that aren't diamonds? i see a lot of these round here.
are those for bench grinders too?
Mine is wobbling as it spins should I dress it?
Sorry chum, if you are looking for perfection you will have to look elsewhere, but I have dressed enough wheels to know that diamond dressers are used trailing!
"back when things where made well"... ;)
I always wonder how things will be made in 30 or 40 years to meet the actual tendence.
These days I'm bench grinder poor. Fortunately I'm angle grinder rich.
I have a diamond dresser
I saw someone grind aluminum and filled the stones till it fractured at high RPM's! He was lucky not to have gotten it in his face. Some kind of "hydo fracking" went on there.
Yes, it can be dangerous
So how would you go about grinding aluminum? Thanks
Ryker
Thanks.
Although I do agree that Delta is now a line of truly inferior shop equipment, their solid tools were made in Guelph Ontario by Black & Decker, who then sold to the Chinese (who mined the shit out of Delta's value). It was a Canadian affair, not American
sad what happened to delta
what's the address of your channel so we can all watch you do things perfectly
Great video. Will this get the vibration out of the bench grinder?? If not how do you do this? Thanks :O)
i changed a wheel one day(20 years ago)on my workspot,it lasted a week.raped by handymen,i never changed it again......
That's a really nice grinder you have there Pete. Sure don't make them like that anymore. Cheap Chinese rubbish most of the time.
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horrible accent. good video though.