Nami Klima E Scooter- First Impression of a Burn E Owner! [4K]
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I'm very pleased with my Klima, lot's of fun.
I found that changing the P1.1 settings of front and rear motor starting torque in all driving modes to minimum (1 or max 2) makes the scooter much easier to handle, especially at slower speeds, it lets you turn the scooter round while still inS, C or X mode without it trying to take off on a drag race with just the smallest touch of the accelerator. (or drive without blipping the gas)
Although, if in your equasion for buying one of these scooters the word "stairs" apears;- forget it!
1. It weighs about as much as a school bus.
2. There is NO locking mechanism for the stem when it's folded down, you have to McGuyver something yourself (i read about stem cracking issues somewhere, is this the reason? is the stem not able to handle the weight?)
The top speed is plenty fast enough, only very rarely can i max it out, or even want to.
I don't think the accelerator is the best option, a twist grip like on an e-bike would be ergonomically (and from a safety aspect) better, but that's just me.
Hi McSlaine, thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel! I appreciate you taking the time to write this detailed response for the community and sharing your experience with Klima. I'm pinning this to the top so that others can read it.
As for the stem cracking issue, I think those were more related to the use of the aluminum parts that run through the head tube instead of the the actual stem. If you're open to it, check out the Polish Throttle in the Nami FB Group. Alot of us use them! its a great throttle and once you get used to it, the amount of control it gives you while maintaining proper riding ergonomics is unmatched (in my opinion)
@@eyebahnrides Your video is very cool and it made me feel like I was riding the scooter.
Regarding the stem, I read that the newest scooters come with a steel stem, but you know people's words change from one person to another so maybe they refer to "some" parts only.
I think that the actual thumb throttle is the best option because the hand has a better (and safest) grip on the handle thought I wonder how is the performance, does it work like on-off power or does it adjusts the power depending on how you use it?
@@eyebahnrides Excellent video, I love this format, it's relaxing. I have a question, how much difference is there in the feeling of driving and suspension between the klima and the burn-e?
And how much difference is there between the suspension of the mantis 10 and the klima?
@@ModoFelix thanks for watching the video and I’m glad you enjoyed it, sorry for the late response! There is a massive difference between the burn e and the Klima. The burn e is much softer and more comfortable, while the Klima feels much stiffer even though it’s softer and more plush than the ultra stiff mantis
@@eyebahnrides Np haha Thanks a lot 🤝🏼
I just got one and am super impressed by the craftsmanship and ride quality. Thanks so much for the video!!
Congrats on your new high powered machine, enjoy the heck out it and ride safe out there 👊🏼. I’m glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching it and hope you enjoy the rest of the videos on the channel 🙏🏼
Met Chuck today at the Brooklyn location. I talked his head off for about 30 minutes, asking him questions, voicing my concern, etc. I don't think people realize how big and powerful the "Burn e" is. Coming from my current scooter, the Klima might be a better option for me but I really want either the "Burn e" or the Apollo Pro, have to test ride both before I can make a decision. The Klima is extremely fun to ride and deceptively fast and powerful as well
Chuck and all the people in FFR are good people and take care of their customers. You are absolutely correct about the Burn E and all of it's variants. It's a massive scooter that looks much smaller in the photographs lol. Both Namis are great options but I've seen good alot of great things about the Pro so I'm sure it's a great option as well. Personally, I'm still considering downsizing to the Klima because I may have to register my scooter with my building and the Burn E is technically over the legal limit and she may ask me to get rid of it. I'm trying to hold off because i LOVE my burn e!
Been glued to mine for the past week, it is such an amazing machine.
I live in a mid sized 500k+ population city and it is perfect for commuting around. It doesnt mater if its road, bike path or trail it just handlea it all with ease.
Great and informative video as always. I wish you New Yorkers the best of luck in your fight to keep PEV's legal. If you do decide to go with the Klima i hope it lowers some of the anxiety of trying to live with an E-scooter in a cramped place like NYC where large beast scooters can garner lots of unwanted attention.
Congrats Paradyme, I'm so excited for you! I'm glad you've been enjoying it. It really is an amazing scooter for its size.
You're absolutely right. It's the perfect go anywhere do anything commuter scooter. What ever an urban environment can throw at it, it can handle with ease. Based on some of the videos I've seen in the Nami Group, I can confidently say it handled those semi offroad situation easily as well lol.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and the information. I figured there's plenty of videos hyping it and talking about performance so I thought I'd approach it from a "how do I like it as a burn e owner and what would commuters like me want to know about it?" I appreciate the good vibes and you're correct that this would draw less attention compared to is beastly sibling.
I'll probably be releasing a ride vlog to update everyone on the whole PEV in NYC thing soon. So keep an eye out for it.
As always, I appreciate your support!
How do you like your Klima thus far? Any issues? Debating in the Varla Eagle Pro one or the Klima.
It's so lame that in Sweden one can't only use 250w and 13mphs at the most. Or else it's not legal to ride. But most don't care about that but stills it's a shame that they turned it down so far to 250w only. I'm a heavier rider and I'll.örefer walking then riding a scooter Bea use there is alot of hills and it won't take me up on them.
Ordered mine about a month and a half back, its expected to come soon! I cant wait, I keep watching videos on this scooter and its making me so excited to ride!
Hey Sticky, congrats on your new machine! I’m really excited for you to ride the Klima and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Let me know what you think when you get it and safe riding! 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
I really want one of these, but I just picked up a slightly used Mantis V2 in the city today. Unfortunately it has the smaller generic battery, but it came with a lot of accessories, looks super clean, and has less than 300 miles on it. I couldn't resist for $800. I'm looking forward to riding it, but the Klima looks like the scooter to have in the city!
I loved my Mantis, I think it’s one of the best “super starter” scooter out there! Especially at $800. The Klima is definitely the scooter to have for the city, but if I remember correctly, the Burn E is better for your area because of the higher speeds
@@eyebahnrides I spent a while on the Mantis this afternoon. I bought it because of the price, it's somewhat easy to toss in a car, to have mid size scooter for someone else to ride, and because I'd still haven't found a decent deal on a WK GT (I'd prefer black and I refuse to pay a lot more for that color new from Voro!) So far I don't regret buying the V2 as a "second scooter", but I can already see wanting more speed and stability for my area... so I will continue looking for that WK GT. For in the city, that Klima looks PERFECT, especially if you have to carry it inside daily (compared to the Burn E). Lovin your content, TY!
BTW, while the V2 doesn't hit hard, I was surprised to spin the front tire several times today. That Klima must rip the front petty good considering it's almost as quick as the E, in the smaller form factor!
One of the best reviews on the Klima! I love reviews expressing feelings while they ride it.
Thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel @drde4010 ! I was thinking of doing it like a traditional first impressions/ review video, but I wanted to stick to my way of doing things (I had the same thoughts when I did my Super73 Mods Video.) So, I'm glad you enjoyed my style of video 🙏🏼!
Since you said to feel free to ask questions, I have a few, if you don't mind answering.
1. Have you ever had any negative experiences with Nami support? I considered an Apollo V3 or Voromotors Roadrunner pro, but I've been apprehensive to pull the trigger after hearing about some pretty awful customer support experiences regarding parts and warranties.
2. Have you had any glaring issues regarding your previous Nami scooters which may present in the Klima?
3. I'm a potential first-time scooter buyer. As such, I don't know much about third-party scooter accessories. I've heard of some people purchasing scooters and realizing they don't have enough space to mount accessories. Is there adequate space on the handlebars to mount an external light, mirrors, and a phone mount?
4. Do you have a favorite "commuter" scooter? I'm mostly looking for 25 or higher miles of range, 30-35 MPH top speed for keeping flow with traffic if I need to, reliable, serviceable, and I would really like a model with decent turn signals. It seems a lot of the scooters with the "commutable" marketing forego good turn signals. The Apollo Pro's turn signals are very appealing to me, but again, I worry about Apollo's customer service.
Have a great day!
Hey Nerd, Thanks for watching the video. I appreciate ya. I'm not sure if I can give you the answer's that you're looking for but I'll try.
1. I'm in the Nami group and I see people complaining about customer service but I don't understand why based on what I've seen from the company. If you buy from a reputable dealer like FluidFreeRide, they'll be able to support you. If they can't Michael Sha and the team are available in the FB Forums. I've seen Michael Sha (Founder of NAMI), work with people who totaled their scooter to get them the parts they need. He's even worked with owners who have lost parts. I'm blessed with having FFR Brooklyn near me. Chuck and Ed have taken care of anything that I've needed for my nami.
2. No glaring issues. If you watch my Nami Burn E Review video, this will go in depth about my experience with the scooter. I'm not saying that people don't have problems, I'm saying that my experience has been very positive. I also take care of my scooter and have trained mechanics do all of my maintenance and upkeep..
3. Modding is more about coming up with solutions on our end to bring our vision into reality. There are times you'll need to find creative ways to make your build work but thats part of it. There are accessories you can slap on to the scooter, but you have to do your research to learn what fits the scooter. At the end of the day, this is a new industry and finding third party mods is trial and error process regardless of PEV and brand.
4. Unfortunately, I don't have any experience with Apollo and their scooters as their products never resonated with me. My commuter scooters have been the Mantis and a Burn E. My commuter Ebike is a super73. I go based on the Battery quality, performance, Ip rating, and design. I can always buy external turn signals and lights to make it better, however, its a pain in the ass to try and waterfproof something or mod it to go faster. I personally think that the emove cruiser is probably the best value commuter, however, I would choose this Nami Klima. As package, is probably one of the most complete, packages you can buy.
I hope this helps
@@eyebahnrides Thank you for the detailed reply! It's much appreciated!
It appears the top contender for my use case is still the Klima.
I'll go watch some of your other reviews to get more of a background into Nami. Also, I subbed, so I'm looking forward to future videos.
Have a great day!
I love that screen
Thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel Frostorm. The dashboard on the new Namis are amazing and a great quality of life update!
Thanks for the review. There is just so much to choose from. I just ordered mine today. Got the base model as my commute isnt too long. For $2,099 right now at fluid for pre order, cant beat the value!
Hi Rudy, thanks for watching the video and welcome tot he channel! I'm glad you enjoyed my first impression of the scooter! Congratulations on your new Klima! The base model of the Klima is plenty if your commute isn't that long, check out this long range video that I did on the Klima ( czcams.com/video/kPP0DZRMJA0/video.html ). I actually pushed it pretty hard and the amount of battery left really surprised me. I'm glad you were able to get that preorder discount too. I know they didn't expect it to be this in demand and its nice of them to offer a little discount as a "thank you for waiting" !
When are you expected to take delivery of the scooter?
I loooved this video, had my attention the entire time. I've been considering this escooter since release, and its great to see all the ride footage, especially so with those great city views. Thanks so much for sharing your experience!
Hi Claire, thank you for watching the video and welcome to the channel! Thank you for the feedback and I'm glad I was able to make something that you could enjoy. The Nami Klima is a great scooter and I hope enjoy it as much as I did when they allowed me to do a test ride. It's crazy how far these machines have come over the last couple of years, though I'm still waiting for them to get to that "Marty Mcfly Hoverboard" stage😭. I appreciate your support and I hope you get to enjoy some of the other videos on the channel. Let me know if you end up getting the scooter and I look forward to chatting with you again!
I do mostly city riding. That's why I went with the Klima Max. My only complaint is that throttle. Good video.
Thanks for watching the video Rafael. I think you made a great choice with the Klima Max for the city! I wish it was around when I bought my Burn E because I would’ve went with it instead. I hope you can find something one of those Polish Throttles soon, it’s night and day with the stock throttle! Try putting up a buy post in the Nami group. One of these guys overseas could probably sell you one.
@@eyebahnrides hi mate great video and cool riding I'm in beautiful Birmingham UK I'm waiting on my klima max to be delivered anytime 😊what are the polish throttles you was on about ...thanks in advance 👍🏻
@@mrdhunter4238 Thanks for watching the video and I''m glad you enjoyed it! I'm excited for you to receive your Klima, it was so much fun. If you're on Facebook, jump in the Nami FB Group. There you'll find the info on the throttle that alot of us use on our Namis. It's a trigger style throttle they nicknamed "Polish Throttle". It's a great throttle once you get used to it. I hope this helps!
@@eyebahnrides hi mate yes I know what you mean I had that style trigger on my 1st scooter I got used to it tbh only problem I've got with the thumb throttle is your thumb is what stops you flying off so il look into that see if I can get a waterproof trigger ..that's my only concern...and a lot are going on about top speed 60 /70 mph which is not needed unless we're allowed on the motorway and that ain't happening lol I think it's all about the speed off the mark and getting to 40 mph in seconds will do me nicely... ridiculous there getting banned anywhere with all the crap going on in the world let people have a little fun while we can ..ebikes are mostly illegal and there's no banning of them speedboxes are fitted to make them go faster but no let's ruin fun for everyone...and under 18s should not be allowed one until they learn to put a helmet on and don't act a twat they may not get as much bad press ..happy Saturday everyone and thanks for your vids and information..cheers
Thank you so much. Amazing video. I'll be tuning in for the full review. I ordered mine yesterday!
Hey Alex, thank you for watching the video. I appreciate ya! I’m glad you liked the video, I was a little worried my approach as a bit to chill and nerdy but I’m happy to see everyone liking it 😅.
I’m really excited for you to receive it, let me know what you think when you do your first ride. I hope you like it as much as I do! When will you take delivery?
It's got a 'Wok' Mode. Which is great - I can do Stir Fry
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the part where you lap the guy that lapped you made my day @7:19
Hahaha I’m glad you picked up on the moment. I was going to make a comment, but I caught myself and ended up just laughing and saying “this is fun” 😅
I just got an Apollo explorer I reviewed, but I really want the klima!
thanks for watching and welcome to the channel! The Apollo Explore was one of the scooters I was considering getting when I first got into eScooters a few years back! It was really comfortable and fun but I ended up getting the Mantis 10 Fluid Edition since it was a little bit more but offered better range and performance. Enjoy the heck out of it but I think you're really going to love the Klima/ Klima Max when you get a chance to try it out! If you're in NYC, the guys at FFR still have this very demo model there!
@@eyebahnrides nope I'm in small town in Canada where scooters aren't hip yet, and I'm too broke to ever afford a new one lol but hey I got the explore at least. And maybe the Klima will just appear in my driveway by divine intervention
Now this is a scooter I can see myself riding! But the dual battery cost is very comparable to the road runner pro which has been catching my eye! Great first impressions video!
Thanks for watching the video Erock, always appreciate your support! Some say I'm biased, which I totally am, but the Nami delivers such a complete riding experience that it's hard to beat! With a line like that, I should sell scooters for a living hahaha
Good to see you enjoying the Klima
Thanks RedMag, I enjoyed it much more than I thought! I didn’t think it would make me want to downgrade to it 😂🥹
@@eyebahnrides my only reservations on the klima is the deck space but so far it seems like the new standard for riding throughout the boroughs. I’m still set on the burn E2, dualtron tried to change my mind with the thunder 3(ip ratings) but they still fail at switching to adjustable suspension.
@@marcb2raw you know what, the deck was one of my reservations with the scooter. I’m glad I got to try it because the way the rear plate is designed, it makes the riding position comfortable (for a normal sized person like me). It’s a really tough choice between the E2 and Klima lol. I don’t understand why they won’t just use the KKE shocks with the dualtrons, they’re pretty easy and cheap to source
@@eyebahnrides even Weped cracked jokes on dualtron. They need to get with the times. Other than that, real good video, I can see Klima & Mantis King GT being big sellers this year.
that all you realy need in the city speed that true nice.
Thanks for watching! You’re absolutely right. Unless of course we’re trying to keep up with the front of the group rides 😅
Personaly i just love that michael sha didnt just leave the nami burn e 2 max behind its like a mercedes xd every year a couple new things changed on it like better display same as on the nami klima and blast he coud have just made that new display for just the nami klima and blast but he didnt allsow some other things are allsow changed like the front swingarm with stainless steel shaft fixed issue with light flickering and turn signals stuck turned on because of horn press added silicone part on the wire box so water doesent get in anymore on the front part and so on … alot of small things witch make it more great in the end
I completely agree with you. I personally don't understand the hate for him and the scooters that I see in the forums. I see an owner and a company that's doing their best to support ALL owners from EVERY generation of Nami scooters. I get that people feel that they should receive a perfect product at $2800+ to $5000, but what they fail to realize is this whole industry is new and they have to view this like any new piece of tech. Sometimes they have to patch things and create solutions as they go, but with every fix the product gets better and better. My ownership experience with Nami has been great and I'll be celebrating my 2 year anniversary with my Burn E in 3 months!
I'm glad you were able to make this video. There aren't many klima videos in English on CZcams. How was the stability of the klima and high speeds and braking at high speeds, and how would you compare it to the burn e and the 2?
Hey Michael, thanks for watching. I’m glad I was able to get hands on with it because I’ve been waiting for a smaller Nami for a while! Stability at high speeds is great, no wobble at all. With the Logan’s that come with it, it stops very quickly. I was able to avoid a crash with a car in the video thanks to the brakes. It performs like the burn E on 60% power while being lighter and more nimble. The acceleration is about the same but the the burne definitely pulls harder after a certain point because of the larger motors. The only reason to go for the Burne2 is if you want the larger form factor, the larger deck, and the range that comes with a more efficient 72v system. Hope this helps!
The best review i see for Klima!!!👏👏
Of course I'm waiting for Blast review...🧐
They says a lot of good words aaand... I Don't believe ANYONE!!!!😁
Also i don't understand WHY spend so much money for Blast (UGLY) anot buy Max Burn-e...🤷
You are the most experience, trustful and honest guy for this test..!!👌😘
Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting Antony. I appreciate your kind words because I try to be unbiased and honest with the opinions that I share. I hope I can see it soon, we’re waiting for them to be delivered in the US 🙏🏼
In my town, I can get to the North side from the East side and back in less than 9 miles, so I stuck with the smaller battery and saved some money (but apparently didn't shave any weight).
Hi Perry, thanks for watching the video! That's awesome and I think that's a great choice you made there. How do the vehicles respond to you when you're on the roads with them?
@@eyebahnrides You're welcome, thanks for making the video. Yeah, smaller city, conservative politics, people honk at me when I'm on my bicycle or a scooter. Just gotta be the bigger man and not let them bother you. Most of the cagers aren't rude. Could honk back I guess 😄
Thank you for the video,
Hi Michael, welcome to the channel. It’s nice to meet you and you’re welcome! Congrats on the Klima, it’s a great scooter that fits right in the Nami product line well!
The ip rating did it for me, I get mine in about 1-2 weeks , storm was cool but no ip rating. Considered a Kaboo but same problem with ip
Hey Steffen, thanks for watching the video I appreciate ya! It’s a shame that IP rating can’t be standardized across the board. There were so many scooters I had to scrap from my list when I was searching. I was hoping a Rion and a Weped would have it but I guess it’s too much to ask 🤷🏻♂️. Im assuming those non ip rated scooters just made for places where it doesn’t really rain or they’re just “track monsters”.
Congratulations on your new ride ride, I hope you enjoy the heck out of it! Safe riding 👊🏼
Another wonderful and informative video bro. Really loved learning about the differences in the Nami. I liked the turn signals, they are really visible compared to mine.
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Thank you sir, I appreciate ya! It’s a shame that turn signals are such an afterthought for most scooters. I wish there was a little something they could add to the handlebars for forward facing indicators. As a happy Nami customer, im happy to spread the word!
@eyebahnrides it's my pleasure, my friend! Watching your content about you talking about the Nami... I just reached 500 miles on the Wolf King GT Pro, and you have inspired me to do a review on what I've experienced so far and how much I enjoy it. Thank you, Ivan, for doing what you do. I have learned a lot from watching your videos, and I really appreciate it.
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@@theweldonator I appreciate your kind words. I’m looking forward to the review! The review video was the first major video that I did and I unfortunately didn’t have enough room on my hard drive to put all the clips I wanted to use! I also had multiple technical difficulties that I didn’t know how to recover from at the time. I hope my next big review of the super73 comes out better than the revivified my burn e. I’m glad the videos were able to help! 👊🏼👊🏼
Very nice channel my friend. We have a similar story where I started with Xiaomi M365 to Mantis Dual Pro and now Burn E 2 Max.
I am also very curious about the Klima compared to the Max and I always recommend my friends who are looking for a scooter in this size category to go for the Klima ❤️
Hi Snorri, thank you for watching the video and I’m glad you enjoy the Channel! I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one who went on that journey. A couple of us are in the comments section 🤣😂😅!
The Klima is definitely a great option. It was so good I’m still considering down sizing from the original Burn E to the Klima because it’s easier to store in the city 😅
How are you liking your E2 Max?
@@eyebahnrides I absolutely love my max. Personally I can't think of downsizing haha but mostly due to range reasons. But I understand your logic in a crowded city, I live in Iceland so I don't have that problem haha.
@@snorrimarstefansson1286 I know what you mean, I've been thinking of downsizing for the last year but every time I ride the scooter it reminds me why I shouldn't!
That's great to hear you're enjoying it. It must be so much fun to ride in Iceland. I could Imagine some of those trails outside of the towns and cities must give you some epic scenery!
@@eyebahnrides Exactly. I think the extra power/range will in the end always tromp the extra weight imo
Man, this is getting tough. This little brother while superior to my VSett would be more of lateral move than going up to a 72v Nami or Dualtron. So many great options. Another great video, bud.
Thanks Terry, I appreciate you watching the video as always. I would have to agree with you. Even with the "upgrades" you're getting from switching to the Klima, it would only be a lateral move. You'll definitely have to go with 72v Beast to really feel like your getting the most for your money.
@Eyebahn Rides
If the Klima was out when I was looking to upgrade from my KQi3 Pro, would have been my pick.
Dualtton Thunder 3 and Nami Burn E 2 Max....
It's coming down to a coin toss, lol.
@@terrypipes7321 I’ve seen a few folks go Nami because of the suspension and IP Rating. They say the ride comfort isn’t close, but they also say the DT3 feels more “insane” to ride. I haven’t gotten to ride a DT3 yet so unfortunately I won’t be able to chime in with an opinion of my own lol. I think you got two great scooters there and can’t go wrong with either (tho I am biased towards Nami 😂)
@@eyebahnrides
The Thunder 3 doesn't drop until later this month, from what I understand. Actual IP rating, 11,000 watts, new display...
It's going to be a monster.
Still think the Nami will be the quickest and better "riding" scooter, but the Thunder 3 looks like it will be a flame throwing chainsaw.
I couldn't agree with you more; when I first began doing my research I was flip flopping between the Vsett 10+ and the Kaabo Mantis King GT. Nami was never on my radar, mostly due to size, weight, COST, lol. The Klima threw everything up in the air and made me reconsider all my options. End of story, I have a Klima Max charging in my basement and am loving life!! 🤘🤘
How would you compare this to the Varla Eagle Pro One?
Hi Shane, it's been quite a while since I've been on the Varla. My opinion of it at the time is it's a heavier, slower, but more manageable Mantis 10. Based on my experience, the Klima is much better than the Mantis 10 and the Mantis King in every category. If you read through the comments section of this video and my other Klima Video you'll see the Klima owners sharing their experience and I hope that helps. Given the opportunity to purchase another scooter, I'd go with the Klima over the Varla anyday. Now this doesn't mean that Varla makes a bad scooter, it's just my preference because I know how good my Burn E has been and how much I loved the Klima when I test rode it.
@eyebahnrides Thank you sir 🙏 🇺🇲
@@shanew7361 Anytime! I wish I had a more educated response for you but I hope it helps anyway 👊🏼
Buy it and keep the Burn-e as well...❤
I wish! We don’t have enough space in the apartment for 2 scooters and an ebike! Maybe if we had a house and garage we’d be able to have a collection like some of the other guys on CZcams 🙏🏼
@@eyebahnrides oh...no...personally I think you would get frustrated with the poor range of the 60 volt system over the 72 volt...I get way more range out of my 72 volt scooters
@@Steven-qm1xo I agree. Range is the biggest reason I haven’t opted for the smaller Nami yet. I’m not sure which is more frustrating tho. Not having range while using it or not having space to store it 😂😅
@@eyebahnrides definitely not having enough range...The burn e has a huge range compared to all my other scooters ...The burn e is next levell and I believe it may take some time before something beats it...
Dag. you took us on a tour of red hook, gowanus, Williamsburg, Greenpoint and at speeds I would be a bit hesitant to do on some of those narrow streets. It seems to compare well with the Apollo Phantom that I test rode in Bushwick. I think I would love either one. Thanks for the tour!
Thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel! I'm glad you enjoyed the Brooklyn ride. It's right around the the FFR shop so I have to stay in the area since the scooter isn't mine lol. Yea, the the streets in NYC are are just so narrow that it's terrifying to do these types of speeds outside of these videos. It's rare that I get to really open up the speed on these scooters.
Yup, quite comparable as far as size and feel. Did you end up buying the Phantom?
@@eyebahnrides I pre-ordered it a month ago and am still waiting for a delivery date. Hopes are up to get it mid-month but the delays are longer than expected.
Does anybody know where the fuse box or fuses are located on the Nami Klima. I went through the PDF manual and searched the word "fuse" and nothing even comes up. Something odd happened. I was riding in an average of 8 mph for about 3 or 4 miles then reached a hill about 25-30 deg and the scooter shut off about 15 seconds into going up the hill. I was doing about 6 to 8 mph when the whole scooter just shut off entirely. I read on google that fuses are often the reason why scooters shut off on a hill but can't find anything online about where the fuse is. I left a detailed message with fluidfreeride but still waiting to hear back. Also the brake sensors were disconnected and it rode beautifully for a day until this happened. Fluid is sending me a new sensor cables to replace the old ones which apparently had issues. Thanks
Hi Daniel, sorry to hear about your issue with the Klima. Was there a speed limiter that needs to be unplugged? If there is unplug it and try plugging the scooter in to the charger (btw plug the charger in first. Wait for the light to come on and then plug it into your scooter). This may sometimes bring back the scooter after it shuts off. The failsafes are generally around the controller so you’ll have to open the deck. I would refrain from doing that for now until FFR responds because you don’t want to void a warranty. I just can’t imagine a hill like that and a short cruise would set off the fail safes. I’ve only seen that happen with bigger heavier guys blasting the scooter at max speed at turbo for an extended period of time.
If you have Facebook, you can always contact Michael Sha directly. He’s very direct and will generally respond with in a day because of the time difference.
Again, I’m sorry to hear about the issue but I hope this helps and we can get you back on the road!
@@eyebahnrides thanks so much for replying. I’m sure FFR will be in touch at the beginning of the week. They have been quite helpful with my previous issues. Yea let me try to charge it. It was at about 80% power when this occurred. When I plugged it in, the light stayed green. I did seen a video on to from a gentleman in another country. I believe that showed how to get the light to turn red. When the scooter was at 50% power left the light turn red to charge but not at 80%. I was looking to see if there might be a reset bottom to no avail in the manual. I’ll reach out on Facebook as suggested. Thanks again and keep doing the videos. They’re really fantastic and the Blast video was really cool. Best videos out there on these fun scooters. 👍😊
@@eyebahnrides you were right, he replied fast. 👍 I’ll let you know how it goes. I’m sure we’ll get it sorted out.
@@drde4010 thanks for watching the blast video! I’m glad I was able to help point you in the right direction. Between Michael Sha and FFR it’ll definitely get sorted out! 🙏🏼
nice video im thinking of adding a scooter to my mantis 10 pro looking at the nami burn e
Thanks for watching the video, I appreciate ya! I think the Burn E would make a nice compliment to the Mantis 10 Pro. The mantis is a great daily commuter while the Nami would be a great beast scooter for long ranges! Let me know what you think of it if you get to try it out!
Im thinking of going for the Klima max, for an allaround scooter. Looks sick
Hey Jokker, thanks for watching the video! If you can try it out I suggest it. It really is a great all around scooter. Great performance for its size and price!
@@eyebahnrides its a pleaseure to watch your videos man. got mysself a Burn e2 but still thinking of switching to a Klima max lol :P
@@0riginal4me I'm in the same boat as you. We might have to register our scooters in my apartment building in the future and they'll notice that the Burn E is over the legal limit in NYC of 100 lbs! So now I'm seriously considering downsizing to the Klima Max! 🤭
I have both the klima 30ah and the Burn E 40ah. In my daily commute I need a scooter that can go at least 48-52 mph to keep up with traffic on the road I’m riding on. In comparison I like everything about the klima except the top speed, 43 mph is all I can get out of it, I’m only 135lb, but the ride is easy, more agile and no steering damper needed, no stems wobbles, and weights 30 lbs lighter makes more difference then I thought. However the top speed is preventing me to replace my big Nami even it does encounter speed wobbling from time to time due to my light weight in the front wheel during deceleration from mid 50s to low 40s.
Hey Joseph, thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel. You've got the dream scenario, I wish I could have both the Burn E and the Klima! Everything that you mentioned makes 100% sense to me. Do you live in one of those cities that are just basically a network of interstate like roads?
your max spedd is 43 mile????
@@komandoskom502 at full battery full setting at X with turbo gets 42-43 mph
@@grassgardenwoo on screen or speedmeter on phone?? and what is your weight:)
@@komandoskom502 gps and based on real traffic on the same road everyday, screen says 43.6
Great video. Subscribed. I own a Mantis Pro and I'm wondering if the acceleration of the Klima is a bit quicker, a lot quicker, closer to the Burn e than the Mantis Pro?
Hi Ben, thanks for watching and thank you for subscribing! I appreciate ya. The acceleration is definitely more aggressive than the mantis but the delivery of power is smoother (if that makes sense). The mantis is quite abrupt and jarring while the Klima will smoothly and quickly ramp up to speed. The sensation reminds me alot of my Burn E and it feels like it's got more to give but is limited by the programming of the controller. I hope I can experience it with full battery to see how much closer it can get to my first Gen Burn E.
I hope this answers your question and I hope you enjoy the rest of the videos on the channel!
well i like my klima ,but missing my teverun supreme... and the power of it. good adrenalin but once u used 72V escooter u wont go back to 60V. thats my idea.
thanks for joining us for one of the original reviews on the channel! The Klima is definitely a great midsize high performance commuter, but It's really hard for it to keep up with 72v monsters like the supreme. In the perfect world, I would like to have a 72v hyperscooter alongside the Klima. The klima would be my daily commuter and the hyperscooter would be for joy rides/commutes/ and group rides.
Personally, I had to downsize from a Burn E to the Klima because of my building. Honestly, I don't really miss much about the Burn E because the Klima is so zippy. Only things I really miss are the size of the deck, the plush suspension, and the larger tires.
As someone like myself who owns the Apollo ghost(amazing scooter for me) will upgrading to the Klima be a vast improvement? I need something with more speed. I live in a small town with lots of open smooth roads, not a ton of traffic and I’m underwhelmed going 65kph(40 mph). I weigh about 155.
Thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel @techguyjay2192 ! As much as I love the Nami Klima, I don't think it's going to be enough of a speed upgrade to justify spending the extra cash. At 155lbs, you'll probably hit about 40-43mph on the top speed. I'm about 215 with gear and I got a max speed of 40mph with turbo on. Even though the ghost is an amazing scooter, the reasons you would upgrade to the Klima is for upgraded ride feel and upgraded controller that delivers the power in a smooth but aggressive manner.
If you're looking for more performance, I would recommend checking out the larger scooters in Nami's line up like the Blast Max and Burn E2 Max. The only thing is, you're basically paying $3.5-4.5K for that power and comfort. In my opinion, totally worth it because you have all those open smooth roads.
I hope this helps!
Great vid! Man, I'm having a hard time trying to decide my next scooter! I'm down with 2 options: Vsett 10+ or this Nami Klima. Both has pros and cons. They cost pretty much the same for the same bat size (25.6Ah vs 25Ah). The 10+ would come with the new display/throttle. I don't know if you ever tried the 10+ but I would appreciate any input so I can decide!
Hi Pedro, thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel. I'm glad you liked it.
It's been a while since I've been on the Vsett 10+. In my opinion, all of those 10 inch middleweight high performance scooters ride very similarly. The biggest difference will be the sine wave controllers on the Klima giving it a smooth and manageable power delivery. The improved power delivery is also better for your battery life. The IP rating is better on the Klima so it's a more realistic choice if you live in an area like NYC where its always wet with sudden rain storms. Aesthetics and design is always in the eye of the beholder, but I do like the design of the Klima better.
I'm aware that I'm quite biased towards the Klima, but I'm quite open to being a fan of the Nami product line. One thing you should do is jump in the official Nami and Vsett groups on FB groups to see what the owners are saying. There's no need to post, you can learn plenty about the ownership experience of the scooters just by reading peoples posts. My advice before going in there would be to take everyone's opinions with a grain of salt.
I hope this helps!
Great videos. Would you buy Nami Klima max or Nami burn e2. Space is not an issue. I live in the country and have a garage.
Hey Eric, thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel! If space were not an issue, I would go with the Burn E2. The ride is far more comfortable on the E2 because of the suspension and the deck. The suspension on the E2 is a bit softer and soaks up bumps much better than the stiffer Klima and the deck allows you to change stances as you’re riding. The 72v system along with the controller set up gives you a smoother delivery of power while giving you better range.
I would only recommend the Klima to you if you’re looking to save space and you’re looking for a smaller more nimble ride.
I hope this helps!
Ivan! Please do a ride in Central Park if its possible.
Thanks for watching the video! I hope I can do the Central Park Loop this month. I had it planned for my last day off but parts of Central Park was still under water from the floods. I hope that with the cooler weather coming in that it'll be less over crowded and difficult to get to! Today's video will give everyone a new view to hold you down. Its the Lower East Side that we're riding through in the Zooz Video!
Is this the Klima or the Klima Max you're riding in this video? How would you compare this to the 2023 Apollo Phantom?
Thanks for watching the video! The scooter in this video and the long range video is the base Klima. I don’t have much experience with Apollo scooters since they never really resonated with me. However, I can say it’s a quicker, more refined, and more comfortable than my Mantis 10 and the little dualtron I tried.
@@eyebahnridesThanks very much, I began riding scooters in the spring of this year, so all I know of scooters from experience is the '22 Apollo Ghost & '23 Apollo Phantom. I'm hooked, I love scooters now - and will be looking to upgrade next spring, as will my brother, who also has a Phantom. Apollo is a fellow Canadian company, so I thought I'd give them first dibs.
My brother & I are doing our homework now - which ones are too big to be practical (if I can't fit it in my '16 Subaru WRX sedan, it doesn't make sense).
Please forgive this long msg. I won't bore you with our entire consideration process, but things that really stand out as huge advantages are:
Regenerative Braking on the Apollo Phantom & Pro.
IP66 rating + 12" puncture-proof tires on the Apollo Pro.
The performance, recent reputation, look & apparent sturdiness of the Nami Burn-E2 & Burn-E3 (now that the cracking stem issue's resolved).
The removeable battery & performance of the WolfKing GT & GTR.
The huge but pedigree-enforced Segway GT2 (3000W motors, but really underused)
Some negatives to consider:
The availability & expense of getting anything non-Apollo into the Canadian market. Import process, fees & shipping to get Nami or Kaabo products to Canada & the need to go through retailers.
The industry changes so fast, if I pre-order something, I'll wait 3 months then find there's a better one coming out.
I don't get to ride them before buying them. For a $2k scooter that's ok - but for $5k - $6k CDN + import fees that can't be refunded? No thanks.
The decison making involves, most importantly - your channel. I see how much mileage you put on the variety of scooters you've tested/owned & I think that perspective is just what I need. Lots of good channels with product reveals & sampling, but actual mileage & experience navigating a large city with multiple brands is the best. Someone who lives with the scooter, relies on it, knows what's creaking after 1500 miles, knows what tires are best, what batteries last longest, etc.
Our focus is commuting & joyrides (Ontario as well as Atlantic Canada), with maybe 10% of that on well-packed gravel/dirt trails.
No matter what scooter we investigate, it mostly comes back to the Nami Burn-E2 or E3. I don't want to do without regen braking & trigger throttles just seem cheap on such expensive machines. Excuse the long msg, I'm on a steep learning curve regarding all the tech, mechanical & financial factors behind the industry.
Would you recommend the Klima or Burn E2 more than the other at this point in time. Is range as big of a deal breaker as people make it out to seem?
Hey Mohkwin, thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel. Range really depends on the individuals use case. If you're doing group rides or have a long commute or just want to go longer in between charges, the loner range will be better.
As for Klima vs BurnE2, it depends if you have the space. If you have the space and the budget for it, go for the Burn E2. It's performance is similar, however, its much more comfortable because of the suspension/ 11in tire combination and deck space. The 72v system is also more efficient and has a much smoother delivery of power so you get good range and a manageable ride experience. The Klima is a better option if you don't have the space or just want a compact and more nimble ride.
I hope this helps!
What kind of cells does the smaller battery have?
Thanks for watching and welcome to the channel Nicholas. From what it said on the spec sheet, there’s no brand on the cells for the base Klima. It’s a “generic” cell.
great review - your honest opinions about the blast?
i think i would get the klima max if available but currently it's not and the blast is.
personally I'm not sure they needed to make a drastic suspension change to a swing arm and one that is tough to look at. What is great is Lg 60 40ah. I also like the 11" tire - kinda getting tired of 10". Thats where the DT city did it right but then shot themselves in the foot with the battery size, dated controllers and display.
Hi CoggersChannel! Thanks for watching and welcome to the channel, I'm glad you liked the review. I haven't had the chance to ride the Nami Blast yet, but I'm team Klima all the way from a design persective. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so I understand that can be subjective. Based on what I've seen on the forums from the Nami team, I know they inverted the front fork in order to improve stability at speed. It's supposed to create more stability because it allows the scooter to keep the tires on the in more situations compared to the standard swing. I personally don't think I'll ever need that and the design doesn't really resonate with me. I know the folks that are racing the Nami will be happy but it doesn't really matter for us normal folk lol.
I agree with you with where the battery and tires on the Blast make it better. I have a vide coming out at 8am ET that might help you out with the decision. But I will say the battery life and the tires of the Klima will surprise the heck out of you! If the design of the blast doesn't work for you, I would go Klima max.
Interestingly enough, I test rode the DT City and the ride was far harsher than the Klima. The fun thing with it was it handled more like bike than a scooter but that wasn't enough to convince me to go with it over the Burn-E at the time. The lack of IP rating was also a bummer.
I hope this helps!
Great review! I believe that the best things of the klima max are the built quality, and the suspension, that make the ride smoother.. I am about to get my new scooter very soon and i am between the nami klima max and the dualtron city.. Any suggestion between these two would be welcomed..
Hi An_kan, thanks for watching the video! I'm glad you liked my first impression of it. You're absolutely right, I believe that the Nami Klima Max presents the most complete package of any scooter in its price range. Power, IP rating, quality, looks, and comfort. I've tried the Dualtron City and (in my opinion) was not impressed. It looked cool but i feel that it didnt live up to that image. The ride was stiff and jarring. The throttle was jumpy. The lack of water resistance instantly disqualified it for me ( if you live in a dry area where it never rains, this won't be an issue for you). I met a dualtron owner who actually got rid of his dualtron victor luxury the same week he tried the Klima Max. He ended up purchasing the Klima Max. I know people say I'm biased, but I personally really like what they've done with that scooter.
I hope this helps!
@@eyebahnrides Thank you for your reply..!! The main reasons that i would consider buying the dualtron city are the bigger wheels and the removable battery, but i always thought that the nami klima max is a better scooter overall, that provides you a much better experience, and as i understand you agree with that.. I am pretty sure that selecting the the nami klima max is the right choice..
@@an_kan You're very welcome! The wheel size is what primarily piqued my interest in the DTC. The wheels made it feel very stable like a bike at most speeds. However, I didn't feel like it did a better job at soaking up the bumps and vibrations of city roads. The strangely stiff suspension didn't help either, though i know you can replace the suspension cartridge with a softer one. I think the right choice is the scooter that you'll use the most depending on where you live. I'm sure if you ask a Dualtron user which is better, they will tell you go DTC everyday because Nami sucks cus its a Chinese knock off rebranding of a Kaabo lol.
Pardon, the 30 amp battery version, what is the range test on it with the lowest setting and on single wheel ?
Hi Kenneth, thanks for watching the video and welcome to the Channel! In the lowest setting in ideal conditions, you can expect 50 miles according to Nami. It's always in dual motor mode so there's no single motor setting. Based on my experience I can estimate that this scooter will do 30+ miles in real world riding. I have no way of quantifying that at the moment, but I may be able to if can borrow my friends scooter for a week. I hope this helps!
I've had mine for a few weeks now, it's awesome. Look for the recall on the brake switches built into the levers, I've had to replace one already before the recall now I'll be replacing the other. Rear shock adjustment is time consuming but not terrible. If anyone can give input on loosening the steering, I'd appreciate it, I know it might be stiff for stability reasons but it's annoying a little to me, I'm constantly giving it steering input, I'm guessing I'll use a spanner wrench for a shock to loosen the headset. Oh, the throttle has to go, horrible design imo.
Thanks for watching and chiming in! I saw the thing about the brake levers in the FB group. If you’re not near a reputable scooter shop, join the Nami FB group. Michael Sha and the expert contributors might already have a video or troubleshoot for you. As for the throttle, I don’t mind it and worked very well for the first 1000 miles I had my Nami Burn E. However, Im glad I followed the suggestions of the Nami group and had my mechanic install the “polish throttle” (nicknamed by the group)
Hope this helps!
please try the Blast, and if its posible a impression of the 3 Namis
Hi Nataly, thanks for watching the video! I appreciate ya. I’m hoping to get hands on with the blast as soon as it comes in. I’m curious to see how that inverted swing arm rides and how the “dragster tuning” feels. I’m not sure when they’re coming to the US but I’m ontop of it!
Hey do you know where i can buy the blue nut cover nami burn e caps they look really cool on yours?
Thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel Vari! The blue frame sliders I use are single piece anodized aluminum ones that FluidFreeRide in Brooklyn had in stock. I tried a few from Amazon and I ended up returning all of them because they all felt poorly made and were multiple pieces that you had to assemble. Those poorly made ones are likely to fail in the event your ride tips over and you actually need them to protect your scooter lol
pulled the trigger on one today
Hey Dave, congrats that's amazing! Congrats on your new scooter. How's your son liking his new Horizon? Has he had a chance to shred with it yet?
He absolutely did Will be around next week possibly I have Chuck give you a buzz let you know
@@DOC-ce3em I'm happy for him! I might be dropping by next week to bother Ed about something so maybe I'll see you there.
Nice one!
Thank you Racine, welcome back to the channel! 🙏🏼
I have a few 60 volt scooters and they drain quickly wen I'm ripping about...
Yup, definitely not as efficient as the 72v Namis even though the battery sizes are basically the same
On your burn -e is this a 'Pointing Finger 'throttle? 'Thumb Side-Press' throttle isn't working for me.
Hi Fabe, thanks for watching the video. The throttle I’m using has been nicknamed the “Polish Throttle”. If you join the official Nami FB group, you can type that into the search bar and it will pull up all the posts related to it. Hope this helps!
@@eyebahnrides Thank you, just checked and they 'out of stock'. Need this like yesterday, lol almost popped a wheelie 10X already!
I asked you a similar question a couple of weeks ago, but now that you have had the pleasure to test the Klima and given the choice of the Burn E….what would you purchase ? I want one but I don’t know what to pick. I need it to commute approx 25 miles round trip 2-3 times a week. Be honest 😆
Hey Haggis, welcome back to the channel. With a round trip commute of 25 miles the Nami Klima SHOULD be enough with normal riding. However, you'll just have to be ok with getting close to empty on every ride. With the 72v system, the larger battery, and the tuning of the Burn E/E2/ E2 Max, you'll have less range anxiety. If you go E or E2 Max, you definitely won't have range anxiety. For me I have to decide if the space savings is worth basically half the range of my current Burn-E. In the perfect world where I had a garage and space, I would have both lol. Unfortunately, I live in the city in an apartment that already feels tight with the Burn E and S73
Im planning to buy this too but i want the max version, is any other retailer other than freefluid?
Thanks for watching and welcome to the channel! I know FFR has been trying really hard to keep up with demand. From what I know, they're the only ones that carry it in the USA. If you want it sooner, I would check out Alien Rides, Ewheels, and Eevee. I'm not sure if they carry it but it's worth checking out. I hope this helps
Which one do you like more the burn e or Nima klima?
thanks for watching one of the original first impressions videos on the channel! That's a hard question to answer because I really like both for very different reasons. I like the OG Burn E because of how smooth the ride is, how wide the deck is, and how much more range it has. However, it is a little too big for my current use case. The Klima is the perfect balance of size, power, and nimbleness (is that even a word? lol) for a high performance commuter. The size and how much negative attention the Burn E gets in my building are some of the main reasons I had to downsize to a Klima Max. In the perfect world I would love to have both and the Blast Max!
@@eyebahnrides what about the super 73? Isn’t that about the same size or bigger than the Burn E?
i dont understand why this scooter is only 10 inch.. more inch more safety, we here in middle eu have very bad roads..even European union is suggesting the scooters to be at least 12 inch, maybe in the future it will be required by the law
the second thing i discovered by watching the video the scooter was a bit bumpy.. i would think that because you are making a test video u didnt changed the stock settings on the suspension
Thanks for watching the video and chining in. From what I’ve heard from the companies, 10 is used to give the scooter a Torquier feel while maintaining that “standup scooter” look. I believe our roads are pretty bad here in NY so I hope they make a 12 the minimum. Unfortunately, as it stands now, they’re actually trying to get scooters smaller 🤦🏻♂️.
That’s correct, I’m not allowed to change the settings from stock because it’s their demo scooter. However, I can confidently say the ride is much smoother and more comfortable than any 10 inch wheeled scooter I’ve ridden. With that said, I think it will be a bit bumpier than my bigger Nami just because it’s smaller and lighter with smaller tires. If you watch some of my long range commute videos on the Nami burn e and the ebike, you’ll see that the roads are so bad in certain areas that no tire size or suspension upgrade will stop the shock of the bumps 😅
Bonjour j ai eu une burn e et a présent une klima,je prefere la klima a mon gout car plus legere et maniable mais les deux sont de superbes machine avec une puissance folle
Thanks for watching and welcome to the channel joker! I agree with everything you said. Both are amazing machines, but the Klima is more manageable because of its size and weight! How long have you had your Klima for?
I'm in Australia and there's no Klima or Blasts being imported yet...😢
Hope you guys get it soon! We’re still waiting for the Blast to arrive in NYC 🙋🏻♂️
Flats, do you have with your Burn-E? Are the rims the same type, same tires? I am still divided among Phantom, VSett 10+, Mantis KGT, and this one. I may pull the trigger with FFR and get one from the store here in Miami
I would move on from the camera you are current using, the constant zoom in and out is so weird... or set in another place, perhaps
Great video, TBH. It made me think twice
Hey Andrew, thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel. I believe the rims, motor, and definitely the tires are different from the Burn E. The Klima uses the 10in CST that feels softer and grippier while the Burn E uses the 11in CST that feels like a harder compound. I personally switched to the PMT Stradales for a smoother ride in the city. I never had a flat with the original tires and I’ve only had one flat with the PMTs because I ran over a nail. Ive had 2 broken rims but that’s all due to rider error and carelessness. In both cases, I was speeding on roads that I wasn’t familiar with on lower tire pressure and I hit a big pothole. The Klima is definitely worth a try especially if you have access to the demo models form FFR Miami.
As for the camera, unfortunately, it will always be moving back and forth regardless of where I mount it because my weight shifts constantly while riding the scooter. It’s very exaggerated with the Klima video because I’m unfamiliar with it and I was shifting my weight like I was on the Burn E 😅. It got better as I got used to. If you watch the long range video with it, the camera doesn’t move around as much.
@@eyebahnrides thank you for replying. Did you have to do any adaptation to use the PMTs on the Klima? I just saw a video where they could not get the PMT to hold inflated with the PMTs.
I may be stopping tomorrow at FFR Miami to test drive the Klima, but I remember last time I was there, they just got a demo unit. I should have taken it for a ride.
Currently a KQI3 rider and am torn between the Mantis GT v2 and the Klima.
Mainly cause the lack of suspension is killing me. The island I live on has some pretty sketchy cycle paths, and commuting on a suspension-less E-scooter is getting kinda jarring.
Also some extra speed and range wouldn't hurt.
The Mantis is 1k (euro) less so I could buy it right now, whereas the Klima would probably have to be financed and my new apartment will have a flight of stairs...
Do you live in an apartment in NYC? Is bringing these things up a flight of stairs feasable on the daily?
Seems really dumb to me that there's no mechanism to lock the stem in anyway when it's folded. :|
Thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel Nic. I had the opportunity to ride both the Mantis King GT and the Klima when I was thinking of downsizing with my scooter. I always loved the Mantis because my first high performance was the Mantis Fluidfree Edition v1 and I thought I was going to love the MKGT. I didn't like the MKGT at all. The throttle was really jumpy and the suspension was too stiff for the terrible roads of NYC. It felt like a larger, sluggish, and more cumbersome version of my original. This may sound biased but the overall ride, power delivery, and build quality was noticeably better on the Klima. In my opinion, the Klima is what the MKGT should've been.
Both scooters are pretty large and heavy because they're in that "middleweight beast scooter" category. It depends on how many flights you have and how many steps lol. I live an an apartment building but we have an elevator. I've carried the Burn E up 2 flights of stairs when our elevators broke, so I could imagine the other 2 would be much easier since they're 20lb (9kg) lighter. I personally wouldn't own the Burn E if I had to do that daily, but I wouldn't mind the other two.
Whats the pricing like in the EU? Here in the US the base Klima is the same price as the MKGT and the Klima Max is $500 more
@@eyebahnrides Hi Eyebahn, thanks for the response! :)
In France the MKGT seems to go on average for 2.3k, whereas the klima starts at 2.6 for the standard and 3.2 for the max.
In certain stores I've seen the Max and the basic Burn E sold for more or less the same price, which is a bit of a headscratcher...
I've only got one flight of stairs, outdoors to climb to get to my door. (Think those spanish style villas where the upstairs and downstairs aren't connected on the inside)
I carry my KQI3 Pro by the stem with one hand, so I assume that the Klima with 2 hands with the stem erected should be totally fine for a single flight of stairs. :)
Also I'll have the smaller scooter at arms length if I just wanna do a small trip and not bother with the bigger boi.
Now my only decision is between the max and the regular version, as the price difference is substantial for someone on minimum wage. I could probably outright buy the standard right now and not have to stress about rent and finding a job immediately when my contract finishes next month, whereas the Max might be a financing situation.
Tough choice as I doubt I'd regret having more range, but also I have other things I could spend that cash on... (Such as gear or other hobbies)....
Would be happy to hear your thoughts, but ofcourse, it's a decision the purchaser has to make! :)
After watching this video I am ready to pull the trigger … I was debating btw this and the road runner which has the removable battery but it’s currently sold out !
Also I am debating btw the 25ah and 30ah ! I will use the scooter for prob 15-20miles a day, so I am wondering if the 30ah with the 500$ extra is worth it ? Have you done a range test on both ? Any help would be appreciated. Great video btw 🔥⚡️
Hi Roland, thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel. I'm glad the video was helpful in your search!
As for 25ah vs 30ah, I always say go with the larger battery because more battery is always worth it because you won't have as much "range anxiety". With that said, 15-20 miles should be doable with both variants of the Klima. Check out this video I did of a long range ride on the 25ah version ( czcams.com/video/kPP0DZRMJA0/video.html ). Theres two parts to the video. I'm pushing the scooter really hard during a long range high speed ride in the first part. Then I ride home through the wet on the second part. I have recaps of the routes and the stats from the ride after each section. At the end of the video I show how much battery I have left after about 20+ miles of hard riding.
The 2 variables that will reduce your range are rider weight and temperature in your area. If you way more than me (210+ lb or 95kg with gear and bag) and if it's always cold where you live, you'll definitely get less range than me.
I hope this helps!
@@eyebahnrides this def helps, thanks a lot for taking the time and replying, very much appreciated ! I have an Ebike ( a very powerful one, 72v 5000w 65ah molicels battery ) so I never have range anxiety on group rides … the scooter will be mainly for errands and quick trip to work and back ! I am 195lbs
I am also located in NYC so I will def run into you one day haha, m I will just take a trip to fluid free ride in Brooklyn sometimes next week. I will def get the klima 🙏🏿⚡️
I just saw you run a stop sign😢 we're trying to get respect out there
Thanks for watching the video.
You're gonna have a heart attack watching us navigate the streets of NYC if me on a quiet side street rolling through a stop sign is concerning. You're gonna see vehicles driving the wrong way, cops riding on the sidewalks, city busses basically blowing through stop lights, vehicles parked in the bike lane, pedestrians crossing when/ where ever they feel like, motorcycles on the bike lanes, powered wheelchairs on the highway, cyclists flying through busy intersections because they think its Tour De France, heards of runners taking over congested streets, and we haven't even gotten to any of the crazy stuff yet =(
Twin piston disc calipers are old school ,do you mean 4 piston?
Hey Ian, thanks for watching this video as well. Two piston is correct for the Klima. I believe the 4 piston is only used on the Burn E, Burn E2max, and the Blast.
@@eyebahnrides 🤟🤠💯🙏
Does anyone know when the Nami Blast we come to the US?
Hey Danny, thanks for watching the video. There's no ETA for the Blast yet. I think it will all depend on when FFR plans to release them. I'm really looking forward to seeing it and getting hands on with it as well.
Great video!! I ‘m interested in buying an electric scooter and I am between Klina and Mantis 10.. What would you advise me??? Thanks!!!
Thanks for watching the video Rick, I appreciate ya. I owned the Mantis 10 and got to ride the Klima, so I would say the choice is pretty easy if you have the budget for the Klima. Both are great high performance commuter style scooters but, in my opinion, the Klima has the edge in every category but price. It’s more comfortable, it’s better built, it looks better, the range is better, the performance is better, and most importantly it’s IP Rated for water resistance. The Klima is a pretty complete package. If you’re in NYC, I suggest trying out both at FluidFreeRide in Brooklyn.
I hope this helps!
@@eyebahnrides I appreciate your response. You got me out of a dilemma, I trust your experience, and I think I’ll take your advice… Unfortunately I don’t have the possibility to test them. I am from Greece, and here the scooters of this category are not so widespread
I really appreciate your reply, you helped me a lot!!!
@@user-pi3el1gd6j You're very welcome. That makes sense that it's not so readily available in parts of Europe yet. It's the same here in the USA. Some cities you'll find hundreds of dealers and you'l find 0 in whole sections of the country!
I'm glad I could help. Let me know what you end up going with when it comes in. Regardless they're great scooters and I'm sure you'll have a ton of fun on them!
7:20 took that guy to gapplebees
in all seriousness, right now I'm a Varla Pegasus owner, and it has almost enough speed for me, but really, the range is a bummer. I get less than 15mi at top speed (25-30mph). Think this would be a better fit?
Thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel Burke, I appreciate ya! I felt bad when I watched the video, I hope he didn't feel like I was being an ass trying to out do him on the Klima lol.
In my opinion, the Klima presents a more complete package than the Pegasus. It'll give you more range, comfort, IP rating, and performance than the Pegasus. The draw back is it will definitely cost more. I got a chance to spend a week with one before I started the channel and the range anxiety was real on my longer commutes and it was a bit of a rough ride on the streets of NYC. If you want to see a long range high speed commute on the Klima check out my latest video here "czcams.com/video/kPP0DZRMJA0/video.html".
I hope this helps!
@@eyebahnrides Thanks bro! That's everything I wanted. I just subscribed ; )
@@burkejohnson4539 You're very welcome and thank you for the support! I hope you enjoy the rest of the videos that are coming out and the ones already in the catalogue!
Can it do some light trail riding?
Hi Gregory, thanks for watching this video. I’m sure you can do some light packed dirt trail riding and some gravel riding with the proper off-road tires. The suspension is a bit stiffer so it will be a bit bumpier than they Burn E. What type of trails were you thinking of?
Bro can you drive whit mode x and turbo on all the time whitout Burning the battery 🔋
Thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel. I'm sure you could but, in my opinion, it would be overkill in most situations. Most people I see in NYC are just cruising along. People like me who are flying around on these things are quite rare lol. I ride my Burn-E on X mode all the time.
Thx bro.. just got klima max
@@almusic4276 Congrats on your new scooter! Just be careful. The only thing that may happen is you could fry your controller or blow one of the failsafes. There are factors like your weight, the temperature, the incline grade, and road conditions that can prevent or accelerate a part failure. I always ride in xmode but rarely use the turbo.
Thx bro for the info now I know.. i wanted to buy the veset10 but when I come a cross ur channel and saw ur videos I was like fck the veset im getting klima thx to you ❤️
I got shipped a defective klima wtf lol. They need to inspect each klima they make before they put it in the box. Now gotta waste my time to do the shipping process and gotta wait for a replacement one smh.
That’s a shame, I hope they get you the replacement soon.
Got a klima max arriving next week!
Congrats! It’s a lot of fun to ride and I hope you enjoy the heck out of it. Safe riding! Btw, let me know what you think when you do your first ride!
Love your videos. Been looking for new last miles solution and wanted a nami due to their build quality, style and performance. But I’d be taking the metro north in and burn-e is way to big. Think the Klima would be too big for lugging in everyday? Was hoping nami would make something small enough to bring onto public transportation. I know I can’t have it all, but one can dream.
Good👍🏼
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Hello, great video.
I want to buy one, but does the 25ah worth it ?
Thanks for watching the video, I appreciate ya! In my opinion, I would rather get the 30ah option because it’s got better range and higher quality cells for only a few hundred dollars more. It’s worth saving up for the better battery!
I hope this helps 👊🏼
Good question……I want to be able to use it without have distance anxiety.
@@eyebahnrides It is a $500.00 difference, for maybe 10 miles of range? so the question is are the unlabeled cells that much worse? Would Nami use that bad of a cell ? is there a difference in the performance between the two at full charge? degrading quicker after 500 charges? who knows.. I'm here for the bigger battery 60V-25ah. Now to find out it's not big enough...Lol where does it stop...off to research 72 V scooters..
fix the fenders
lengthen the deck
the rear light looks fragile
clean ulp the wires and cables
Thanks for watching and sharing. I don't necessarily agree with those points but that's ok.
fix the fenders- The fenders are fine. They work just like the ones on the Burn-e. I don't understand why this needs to be fixed when it just needs a little improvement.
lengthen the deck- that would defeat the purpose of the smaller footprint of the Klima. The Burn-E and Blast would be better if you're looking for a larger scooter. If those aren't enough, the kaabo wolves and the nanrobots are long.
the rear light looks fragile - The second generation Klimas come with integrated lights on the rear fender. The only thing I would add are lights across the side of the deck/stem to give the scooter more visibility.
clean ulp the wires and cables- cable management is something that needs to be done better across the industry but this can be done to taste by the individual. I also understand why they dont. Having the loose cables allow the end users and the distributors slack to set up their PEV to their liking. I personally prefer having the loose cables up top so I can clean clean it up and adjust it to fit my setup.
@@eyebahnrides please tell me about the benefits of small decks.
I have big feet.
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Thanks for watching David! 👊🏼
Is this the max? Or normal? You never say.
Hello Scott, thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel. My apologies, this is the 25ah version
Love your videos!, though you forgot to engage the Turbo mode. Do you have an email, I would like to PM you about Nami's.
Thanks for watching the video Dan. I appreciate your kind words and I’m glad you’re enjoying the content! You can PM me on my instagram, that would be the easiest way to chat.
Btw, I engaged the turbo while making the uturn at the bottom of the bridge. I just edited it out because I almost hit the garbage can 🥲😂😅
Any chance of getting a range test in the city?
Hey Travis, thanks for watching the video and chiming in! I’m not sure if they’ll let me do a range test with their demo model. I’ll definitely do one if I end up buying the Klima.
@@eyebahnrides ah damn!
@@travist1169 if I can borrow a buddy’s, scooter for a day or two I’ll do it 😂
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What is top speed when the turbo on ?
Hi Remy, at 50% battery and my weight at 200+ lbs with gear, I was doing 37-39mph with turbo on. When I took it out on that long ride in this video (czcams.com/video/kPP0DZRMJA0/video.html) I was able to get 40mph with out turbo on at over 200+lbs. If you read the main comment i pinned to the top from Alex, he gets around 42+ mph and more range at 150 lbs. It will depend on your weight, battery state, and temperature outside.
I hope this helps!
@@eyebahnrides got it 👍👍👍
Can they shipped here on qatar?
I'm not sure. I would check with FluidFreeRide directly. If they don't ship to Qatar, I would reach out to Michael Sha directly on FB. He should be able to point you in the right direction
Tnx bro pls update me if its okey to shipped here in qatar,, keep it up bro im always watching your videos. 🫡
Hi gps real speed please ? Lbs 190
Hello I’m not sure what your top speed will be at 190 lbs. I’m assuming 39-41mph
Dam i want to try it.
Thanks for watching! I hope you get a chance to, it’s a great scooter and a ton of fun to ride! Are you in NYC?
@@eyebahnrides yes i am in nyc actualy i am same guy from sound and motion. i forget to change profile sometime so i post 2 times.😃
@@dhardjono oh hahaha, that makes sense. Ride down to FluidFreeRide in Bk one day. They’re only 10 min from the Williamsburg bridge! Ask for Chuck and he’ll let you demo it. You’ll just need to sign a waiver and leave your ID with him 👊🏼👊🏼.
@@eyebahnrides realy ok i try going next week day if the weather is good.
@@dhardjono they’re closed Monday’s but you can go Tuesday. Just let him know you know me and he’ll take care of you. If they have the BurnE or Wolf king GT available you can even test those out. The weather is going to be gorgeous next 2 weeks so it’ll be fun!
why don’t they sell the blast
Hey Grit, thanks for watching the video. They will be selling it eventually. From what I’ve been told, they’re scheduled to arrive in the US in June. It just takes a bit longer to get to the US than the other markets
Nami klima or Vsett 10+ :)
Hi Marek, thanks for watching the video. Let me preface this statement with, I haven't been on the Vsett10+ in quite a while. From a design perspective, I prefer the Klima. From what I remember, everything about the Klima was better in terms of performance and ride comfort. In my opinion, the Klima is a much more refined package. People will say I'm biased towards the Nami and they are correct. I think they make great scooters thats hard to beat (unless you go into the custom Hyper Scooter world).
I hope this helps!
@@eyebahnrides thank u for your answer, it helps.
Dang this is like the BMW M5 vs M3 haha
@@SwiperTheFox-sz3sw perfect comparison!
I totally hate when someone says brand name and 21700, 18650, 4880 whatever!?? It means nothing much ! And all the scooter people do it . Now if you said LG M50lt anything else is junk batteries,I know it's a 15amp 5000 mah , and are fair but cheap . If you said Samsung 50S I would know it us a super powerful, and the most desired cell in the world ! Cells are the very heart of the scooters abilities. I would never buy a scooter unless I know the cells ! For me, Everything else is a fire trap !
Thanks for watching and chiming in!
Yup, the reason I mentioned it is so folks have the base info since it’s just a first impression video. I leave it up to the individual to do their due diligence to find out if it’s the LG M50LT and what the dimensions/charge/ discharge/ capacity are. I feel like folks like us that care, will actually do the leg work while other owners just care if it’s LG or generic Chinese. I would even bet that most owners of scooters don’t even care and that’s one of the reasons we’re having a fire issue in nyc 😔
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Hey Teddy 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
Looks like an Amazing scooter ! No stem wobble ? No shaking of stem at 35 or 37 mph ?
Hi Joe, thanks for watching the video. It’s definitely an amazing scooter. The stem felt solid and doesn’t even flex like carbon fiber stem of the Burn E. No creaking or rattling either because of locking system they have. I hope this helps!