2023 Can Am Outlander 700 and 500 First Look Review plus 700 X MR Pro HD7 and HD5
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- 2023 Can Am Outlander 700 and 500 First Look Review plus 700 X MR, Pro HD7 and HD5. After just 7 model years, Can-Am is replacing the excellent Outlander 450 and 570 with the new 2023 Outlander 500 and 700. Of course, there are a bunch of trim levels within two usage specific designs, the all-around work and recreation focused Outlander and the more work or hunting focused Outlander Pro.
Nearly every discernable specification that matters is class leading with the new Outlander 500 and 700 and Outlander Pro HD5 and HD7 with the exception of their retail prices, which look like they came from 5 or more years ago. Compared to the departing Outlander 450 and 570, the new 500 and 700 certainly look to deliver even more ATV for the money, but is more always better? We hope to find out in the near future so subscribe for more.
For now we'll take a look at what the new Outlander 700 and 500 have to offer and see how they stack up against the specifications of the Honda Rancher, Kodiak 450, King Quad 750, Grizzly 700, Sportsman 570 and others.
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I guess honda, suzuki, kawasaki, and yamaha all knew their displacment and frame set up as well as suspension was just perfect, cause here comes Can Am and Artic Cat following suit again. I am glad to see these manufacturers doing the same things and creating a competition amongst one another. Maybe we will see some price drops now. Cause honestly it all boil downs to all we want as consumers is a fun, capable, dependable machine with easy part access. I think that 700xc looks kinda good, and I like the storage options.
Fun, capable, dependable, and affordable. Some price adjustment would be good.
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YES SIR
Not sure about the looks. Would need to see one in person vs a video.
@@mikeruffo6462 That's how we feel.
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I seen a different video today, they were showing a few of them at some show. It was the hunter edition with the storage options and accsessories, and a close up of yellow 700 xt, the Red 500 and the hd model with gas can and chainsaw attachments. There still kinda high in price though and dont come with winches except for the xt but u pay more for that. Plus they are heavy like the cf motos. The good ol grizz and king quad are lighter but **** they want too much. Plus the suzuki dont come with a winch either. I own a 2016 grizz, a 2019 can am outlander 650xt and a 2021 cforce 800xc. Kids took over the grizz and can am and wife wants her own ride now instead if riding double. So having a hard choice deciding. Thinking for the price and what u get with the cfmoto I may go that route again. We have had nothing but good luck with ours, and my friends also. And maintance is easy. I wanna find her a good 500cc to 700cc that aint gonna put me in the poor house. Lol. I think about used but I have got burnt going that route once or twice so figure get her a new one she deserves to be the one to put the first scratches on it.
Definitely good to see them offering affordable and seemingly capable options. Also, they seemed to address the 2 biggest complaints of outlander owners now. Engine access and heat. Storage is nice too! Selfishly I was kind of hoping for a sport quad or a 55 inch wide renegade 🤷🏻♂️ lol
We're always hoping for a new sport quad.
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@@ATVonDemand hi, did you know a price 700 xmr?
I went in the dealership to put a deposit on one of these new 2023 Outlander Max XT 700’s, walked out the door with a 2023 Outlander Max XT 570s. Best part is they had the 570 there and I take possession on Tuesday as opposed to waiting for weeks and or months. I hope I don’t regret it! 😕
The 570 is great. Don't think you'll be disappointed.
More suspension travel, ground clearance and a leader in hauling and towing ratings. We're not sure how we feel about the same engine at two different price points, but other than that, if the performance lives up to the specs, the new Outlander 700 and 500 models should be pretty awesome. Until we ride one, it's great to see a major manufacturer developing new ride on ATVs!
Up here in Alaska all can am and polaris can't handle the extreme weathers especially on my island which we get heavily sprayed by salt water their wires corrode out fast and u joints go out pretty fast but honda and Yamaha rules the tundra
@@dcsales2007 Looks are subjective. We are interested in seeing if the performance lives up to those impressive specs!
@@dcsales2007 I don't mind the looks, but your right that console windshield setup is the most hideous I've ever seen.
@@qapsukalek Right on.
@@rzl07375 Wouldn't be our 1st ad on but they have lots of cool ones.
I have a dps 500 with some bumpers and minor accessories. It's very impressive overall. The suspension travel is insane for a utility quad and it doesn't lack any power. Even when towing or riding with a passenger. I recently recovered a snowmobile 10 miles up a mountain in 2 ft of snow. Low range proved to be awesome for low end pulling power and the front locker did its job well keeping us on the trail. I've put 300+ miles on it and have zero complaints. Good job can am. Ps- I've had grizzly 660's, 700. Can am 1000 ( earlier models) and lots of mid sized Hondas. And the 23 can am outlander 500 will not disappoint.
Problem is Visco4Lok is only available on MR series and ProXU series. ProXU has suspension tuned for work. They should have had a XT700 with the visco4lok as standard or as an option so that you could have a trail machine without the rad relocate.
Just bought one of the only 2023 Outlander 570 XTs a month ago, so far I love it!
That's a great machine.
If I was going to buy a new 700 !! It sure wouldn’t be a can am !! It would be a new grizzly
I said the same thing... I have a 520 foreman but its not great on the trails.. i mean it gets u thru but it gets hung up low clearance and its a work quad not a riding trail quad.. if i could afford 13,000 for a grizz i would do it... Thats alot of money to me
@@Mike-jx8ks your Honda is a great quad !! A lot better than any can am
Have had my 2022 450 for a year and bet it will outperform the 500 any day have pulled out 1/2 ton trucks from the mud pit with it
The most valuable about Cam am was the desing over the other brands, but now they totally Lost it
This is their value bikes. Kinda like 1$ menu items at the restaurant. Your still gonna be able to get McChickens but if one can't afford it here's the junior chicken instead
They’ve grown on me very Minimally, but I still like the idea of sticking to your identity.
650 outlander 62hp
650 outlander ….50hp.
It’s hard to bet against the Uber quality of the kingquad 750, grizzly 700, as far as singles , even though they are slightly higher . I do however applaud can am for offering a respectable price ! I do think it will force the better built Japanese brands to adjust slightly . I like can am ….I have an X3 SxS . Traded the last atv (sportsman 1000) on my current KingQuad 750 (2022). It’s hard to beat the silky quality , light weight , nimble handling combined with respectable power .
Overall they are definitely good machines , but I just feel moving away from what your known for (punching ABOVE your respective class in power) is questionable.
I’ve had brutes and a 1000 Polaris and I will say if I re-enter big bore power again it’s gonna be an outlander 1000R.
Updated models and pricing from the competition would be great. They probably went to single cylinders because they are less expensive to manufacture. Couldn't meet that price point with a twin cylinder.
@@ATVonDemand Yea I think stream lining power trains was the number one goal to lower price. However if, if the ecu is cracked before long since it’s the same block and head , one could pass the 700 and just tune the 500 and save more. Sans slightly different cam. Definitely good prices for todays market .
10 -15 years ago those prices would be way high lol.
@@ATVonDemandit’s due to emissions. These manufactures are under strict emissions laws. Their entire lineup needs to meet a certain spec… this means if canam wants to keep the 1000 available … they needed to dump a couple motors and redesign a single cylinder engine that will be more efficient. Our days are numbers with being spoiled with what we currently have offered in off-road fun
Nice overview of the new models. I dont think they are terrible looking, I do like the look of the projector headlamps. My take on it is they streamlined they're model lineup and cut costs by making 2 "different" models that essentially use the same engine and drive train, and all they have to do to make it a 700 is cams and the tuning, it's smart from a business minded point of view, but we'll see how the customers take it.
Thanks for watching period I believe we share very similar viewpoints on these machines. Different horse powers using the same engine has taken place in their side-by-side lineup for some time but it's going to be interesting how consumers deal with it in the ATV market.
Soooo, getting the 700 means you're getting ripped off because the atv could cost 800$ less since it's the same engine (i don't believe for 1 second the different cam profile bullshit)
And getting the 500 means you're getting ripped off because the engine you paid for is supposed to make 50hp.
Or you could just say that the manufacturer makes an $800 larger profit if you buy the 700. It's a little strange, we agree. That in mind will take the extra 10 horsepower for $800. It will be less hassle than swapping cams, installing a programmer or getting the ECU reflashed.
These look like 2024 models to me!
This seems like a huge downgrade, the previous 650 and 570cc were V-twin Rotax engines. These are single cylinder, loose horse power. The 570cc was 48 hp vs 500cc 40 HP // 650cc was 62HP vs 700 is now 50HP.
Are they more fuel efficient? A 2018 570 Outlander base model would get 22.7 mpg when cruising at 35 mph over variable terrain of fire roads loaded with rider and full loaded with gear near max for front and rear racks. Other than a slightly increased ground clearance, ~1" wider, 3.7" longer, and 1" shorter I don't see much of a difference. Other than the bodywork.
We don't really feel cannon was trying to replace their own 650 with these machines. It's more like they were trying to conquer the entire single cylinder segment. The 700 may very well have better bottom in the power then the 570 dead which will make it better at pulling. We think we will miss having a more compact model in their lineup though.
@@ATVonDemand I agree. Too many get lost in HP numbers. TQ is where it's at for utility/work. My little Grizz 700 out pulls a 650 twin but loses in a race every time. Fine by me because if I wanna race, I'll buy a 1000!
The new quads are still missing the all important right hand brake lever -- We wont buy any quad without it
That definitely holds me back. I can see where a new rider might not care but if you have ridden dirt bikes, motorcycles, and jap bikes your whole life you prefer the control of having separate front and rear brakes.
lol...hell, these things still only have one rear brake!!
Wow, I guess Can Am just took the land whale title away from Polaris!!!
These things are 200 pounds heavier than my Brute!😯😬😵💫
Lol, yeah they're a little heavy.
The only good things on can ams are the powerful v tiwns and trailing arm rear suspension, now they’re gone lol.
Just buy a grizzly or king quad they don’t break down all the time.
Can-Am durability has improved considerably through the years. No telling how these machines will hold up. The DPS model is $2700 less expensive than the grizzly 700. It deserves a serious look.
these things are heavier than a neutron star. that is my only gripe with them.
Agreed.
Some are saying weights may be misprints. For example, the 2wd base is listed as 800 lbs but the 4wd base is only 740lbs. Da fuq?
I’m not sure if I could ever get over the looks of the machine it’s just ugly to me .. I hope the 850 and 1000 doesn’t end up looking like that next year ..
The clutch upgrades would be nice though
Cool to see something new but I’m on the cfmoto bandwagon get more bang for the buck it seems
They tried to kill you co vid , remember?
Like the 850 xmr. Does the 700 have a eco - norm- sport throttle modes?? I must know
Yes
The new line up is hideous🤢 700 single cylinder is not for me. And I enjoy the trailing arm set up over the a-arm style. Looks like I’m going to keep my 570 xmr
The content here is good. But I had hoped Can Am was going to discuss something REALLY new, like an active suspension, etc. I have two complaints about the presentation:
1) Too much distracting music: The background music is too LOUD and plays too much of the time. It's an annoying distraction when trying to listen to what's being said.
2) Too much echo: The narrator sounds like he's in a cave or a confined room that lacks acoustic damping. Software and/or a good microphone can easily address this.
P.S. I own two Can Am 800s and a new Polaris 1000S, with tracks for both Can Am (Camoplast), and Polaris (Mattracks). The Camoplast work better despite a smaller footprint.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 🙂👍
I like a lot of choices for accessories. feel this machine is perfect for a simple Atv that can do it all, from a big name company
If it performs as well as expected it should be a winner.
ive been wanting an outlander 850 for a while now but the price point of the outlander 700 is very incentivizing
Other than horse power, Many of these specifications are better.
if you want an 850, this 700 will no doubt disappoint you as far as performance.
@@den310 If you want an 850, then why would you look at this one anyway? Just buy the 850.
@@Dusdaddy he’s probably just thinking about the price point of view
Does the one cylinder lower the cg. Glovebox moves rider back. Last chance to get the 570 v twin
They don't sell the rear canted engine as lowering the center of gravity however we would think that it would help centralize the mass by placing it more underneath the rider instead of in front. Guess we will have to ride one and find out.
From the sounds of it it may be a better option to get a 500 swap out the cam and have it tuned
Maybe, I think it's an $800 price difference for the 700 versus the 500. Some will probably want to upgrade others would rather just spend the money and not mess with it. We'd probably be in the later.
@@ATVonDemand If $800 is the only difference then it wouldn't be worth it. Unless, you planed on upgrading the performance of a 700. Then you would be better off getting a 500. The engine is capable of making 60+ HP with the same exact modifications
Looks like I have to buy a used 570 now, I don’t like the new design and I hate the sound of single cylinders
Ya mean you can get a quad for under 18K? Idgaf if it has platinum pistons and diamonds shoot out the exhaust, a quad should NEVER cost that much.
I think looks are an upgrade from the previous model. The only thing that seems questionable to be is the rear rack dips down and is not completely flat.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I saw that as well. I can see it being nice if you have a box or cooler that fits in the middle just right but what if you don't? I'm thinking a low enclosed box from Pelican mounted first, then the top of that will be flush with the rest of the rack.
I just purchased the new XMR 700 The machine feels great and it looks sexy
Congrats! Just watched your walkaround.
@@ATVonDemand I appreciate that thanks👊🏻
My 2016 max xt 570 has 16 lube points and to change fluids the covers are a pain. Would love to see what the new ones have. TY
Did they fix how hard the oil changes are? IE accessible?
We think so but we'll find out for sure.
Not sure what there doing, 570 same power stock as the 700, alot lighter, more snotty and better sounding. There a whole aftermarket world for the 570 with extra parts ect and now their starting from scratch, with a single cyleder that makes crap for power for its displacement and and a ton heavier and is going to sound like crap. Just for comparison, listen to a Polaris 570 with an exhaust and a Can am 570 with an exhaust, the vtwin sounds better by alot. Also you can put a 800 crank in a 570 and a bbk and you can run them over 900 cc's! Also I never heard of anyone complaining about the 570 motor being unreliable
It is much less expensive to produce a single cylinder engine than a twin cylinder engine with twice as many parts. This allows them to reach a better price point. No matter what the 570 used to cost, the price of everything is going up.
Wow this was a direct response to CFmoto.
We'd say they certainly had something to do with it.
Looks like the tire sizes are not equal front to back. Just a misprint on the spec sheets according to others.
We will know the answer for sure soon.
short version, buy a grizzly 700, probably the last good product coming from Yamaha
Yamaha makes a ton of great products.
@@ATVonDemand You guys have to say that or the cash flow stops, but we all know that RnD is being castrated by the bean counters.
Things like the clutch problems on yfz 450r can't fly that long, or abominations like the tenere 700 an adventure bike that to you to reach the spark plugs you need to "remove"/unbolt the ABS unit.
I'm saying this but at same time im looking at several Yamahas that I bought new and are maintained meticulously.
This isn't just an Yamaha problem, it affects all brands because their main objective is always make money.
It just hits close to home in My case because I started with Yamaha and I wanted to keep the brand...but the only things that they care about is "bold new grafics" and promos full with the inclusivity cliches
Yep I knew cat would get the ball rolling with it’s alterra 600 I wonder how long Polaris renews it’s sportsman 450/570 could this be the death of the big twin 850/1000 class 🤔
We certainly doubt that it's going to be the death of the 850 and 1000s. On the contrary, we're wondering how long it's going to take cannon to update the 850 and 1000 with specifications better than the new 500 and 700.
@@ATVonDemand Agreed. If they update the 850/1000 with a new frame and tweak the performance, it'll be win-win. Check out the pic of the "full rear bumper" on the 500/700 accessory page. That rear-end is different, two taillights. You think it may be the new 850/1000?
The pdrive is it going be on the 2024 850 and 1000
We bet. We were surprised to see it on the budget friendly models 1st. impressive.
I think the issue I see is that I don't get what they are trying to do with this. I do like the integrated chainsaw holder option.
I also liked that for water peace of mind, historically Can-Am would allow you to configure any outlander with snorkels. I was looking at the 500 2up and adding snorkels but that doesn't seem to be an option now.
And they are ugly imo
Can always add it yourself
@@reidharris1059 as long as the factory fits. Unfortunately we don't know that it can or will just yet. I hate DIY snorkels, every person who has done them has issues. And I'm not looking to mud, just peace of mind in mud/water crossings. And at this point one would think stealth snorkelling would be standard across the board.
But in any case, the customizer doesn't allow adding the snorkels as all other ATV/sxs's can on their site. So I'm curious about that, plus if you have the snorkels and rad relocate do you lose the saw option.
@EC_ATV_Outdoors can am does make a snorkle kit for the dps 500 and 700 and it looks bad ass.
@@AirsoftTwinkie yes, they added the ability to add them in the build tools. Originally you couldn't.
What is technical the difference between the old CVT and the new pDrive?
I doubt anything massive. Soon people will be complaining about these new CVT components as they were about the old G2's. Just making me happy I bought 2022 outty 650's rather then the most modern ones. Let other people work out the bugs on these.
Did they mention the weights?
The weight of the XT was listed at 890 pounds. It looked like the weight of the DPS changed once on their website. Not sure if those numbers are fine or not.
Once again us sport riders are left out. Some of us aren't mud hole riders. I know u can't make everyone happy but, come back with a sport quad.
Well said!
1800 pounds that’s all I’ve hold at lest 2500 pounds with my 420 Honda
True but your Honda isn't rated to pull 1800 pounds. We would bet money that this machine will outpull a rancher 520.
What is with the crazy engine displacement numbers?
Both the "500" and "700" are actually 650cc displacement engines.
I was never a fan of how the manufacturers are with mislabeled displacement numbers. But these guys have absolutely zero regard for accurately labeling their machines, lol.
We don't completely get it either.
Did they quit making the 1000
No. They didn't stop making the 850 either.
I've heared about a new Rotax single cyl 900cc engine.....I think 2025 the good 1000R are gone...
Not seeing a single reason to take 1 cyl Can Am over any of the 700cc class Japanese. Not like I'm going below 1000cc anyway lol.
We get it, once you go big! So what features do you think would have made It more desirable than the japanese 700 class machines? Or at least more desirable than it seems?
Listen, I'm a huge brp , can am fan, my profile pic says it all, but these things
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Good to see you doc. Thanks for stopping by and watching.
very confusing- so this are single cylinders?- and theres the 650 twin ?? ;-()
These are all 650 singles replacing the 450 and 570. 500 and 700 rwferrs more to typical in class horsepower.
Will never touch a Grizzly 😂😂😂 we all know canam quality … I use to own seadoo’s … great machines when they run correctly and don’t need parts! Anything with power is built like garbage … driveshafts, axles. Diffs are still going to be the equivalent to plastic.
Time will tell
Straight front and rear axles to differentials or junk ass u joints ?
Lol
We'll see how they hold up.
Woot, first
OMG!
You are my Hero!!!
I want to Bear your children.
@@jH-zu9ky in all the years of watching CZcams, I've never been first ever lol. It's pretty exciting for a hot minute
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors unfortunately being first means your at the bottom of the comments... haha, FAIL
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors We will just keep responding to your comment to push you to the top.
@@ATVonDemand No, don't feed his ego!.....oh, damn. Oops
800lbs...😵
The x t version. Lose the bumpers and the heavier wheels And the machine loses 100 pounds on the DPS model.
@@ATVonDemand It might also mean the end of the 450 engine in the 6x6. Cant see them keeping it around for just that model.
Not happy with this at all.
What's your beef?
@@ATVonDemand they got rid of two engines that made them unique just to offer a quad like everybody else.
Not sold on the look man their ugly….
These wheelers are ugly and look cheaply made.
Too damned expensive...over priced to the max. My brother bought a Can Am brand new ..(like a fool) it didn't even last a full year before tons of problems arose....and he babied that thing...I bought a CF Moto 5 yrs ago with not a single issue yet...Can Am is a joke
Really? This 700 maxed out is cheaper than a Yamaha Grizzly 700 with better numbers across the board.
@Dusdaddy longevity means everything...grizzly last a lifetime...my brother's can am 570 hauls ass..much faster than my CFMOTO, which is an 800, off the line..but again, his has lived in the shop and only has 75 hours on it....unbelievable
@@shreddinjoe I don't argue with that. My '08 Grizz still lives on the original belt. But at some point, they gotta get of their ass and give us some useful features. You buy a Grizz and then you need but Rox risers so you can adjust the bars. Just a little box storage, no useful accessories, etc. Can-Ams are not that bad maintenance wise. Hell, neither are Polaris. Most of it just perception.
@Dusdaddy this is also a fact...I agree. Pros/cons to everything...there's no perfect ATVs out there...I'll take the one that's gonna last for 20 yrs vs 70 hours..no Brainer
My can am outlander 570 lasted me 4 years with the only maintenance being oil changes. My only problem was a blown 4x4 fuse. I only sold it because I needed money, and I regret it now. It’s sounded way better than my single cylinder Arctic cat 500
Very very ugly, huge downgrade
Well the managed to take the best looking quads and make them ugly