X32 Live Stream Using A Matrix | Setup And Routing To USB
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I received a lot of questions on a previous video about how to setup your X32 to have your main room mix go out to a Matrix. This allows you to have a mix volume for your room and a different volume for your stream. You also can setup specific compression, EQ, and even a limiter for your stream. We walk through all of that in this video.
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Please make sure you save your scene on the console BEFORE you update firmware. Your current settings per channel will be cleared. You can reload your scene after update, but make sure to save your scene before updating.
...and export a copy to your thumbdrive
No questions - very clear explanation, thank you! I can see this being useful for the studio, where you may want to have different stereo mixdown tracks adjusted for EQ and compression alongside a main L/R bus mixdown. That would save a world of time doing "what-if" type mixes with multiple EQ and dynamics being recorded to the DAW simultaneously. I've never heard of anyone doing this. so I'll do an article on it. I want to thank you for putting me onto this capability.
That’s a fantastic scenario and certainly one that is not explored often with this console. I’d love to see what you put together.
This is it!!!! Where can I send you a check??? Lol for real man, you honestly helped our church out big time with this. Thank you
Just a side note, it was still a little quiet and we gained up the input in vmix and it is good.
I truly appreciate this, a clear step by step procedure that a novice, like me, can follow. Thank you
If you want to further customize your Matrix Livestream mix, here is the next step. czcams.com/video/hcXC68iQrNI/video.html
Thank you for the matrix setup video. Great clarity. This will be a big help.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Kind Sir. Thank you so much for your help. I've been having this battle for a few weeks. Well, at least every Thursday but today you've helped me. Just wanna say thank you so much.
That's great news. Thanks for the feedback and well done on continuing to search out solutions. Let me know if you have other questions.
Great video! Saved it for reference as it was complete! I have the x32 compact and if I hadn't watched a thousand videos already on this thing I would have been lost lol. There's a learning curve, but it's not rocket science. Using it as an interface really made me take a dive into the routing. Comes set from the factory to send the signal straight out the USB card after the pre amp. No eq or dynamics are working. I wanted to get post eq and dynamics signal to the card outs and found out you can use the P16 outs for the card which are post eq and dynamics and still correspond to the 16 actual inputs. It's actually all the possibilities I can't wrap my head around, not the routing pages lol
Yeah, the P16 trick (as I call it in a video I made about the setup you mentioned) does offer so many possibilities. The console itself is so packed full of features that it is quite astounding for the price point of ownership. Keep learning and having fun. Feel free to ask questions.
@@AllamHouse Thanks! Appreciate you sharing your knowledge! Cheers
But your videos have helped me out a bunch in reprogramming this board.
I updated the firmware as you suggested, and it WIPED everything out... and I didn't backup.
But your vids have helped in setting it back up.
This video discusses gain structure and would the first place I go to make sure I have a good level coming into the console for all inputs. czcams.com/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/video.html
Hello from Belgium! Thanks for your video and your work. It really helps me and my church. Be blessed
Thanks for the encouragement.
This should fix the issue I’m having with low input volume to VMIX when card out 1/2 is mapped to mains (from your previous video). I don’t think our congregation would appreciate us blowing their ear drums just so our stream guests can hear 😂. I really appreciate your time and knowledge!
Okay. I have my X32 setup just like you described in this video. I’m getting stereo sound to my computer (using x32 drivers and VMIX). The volume level is really low. When I raise the sliders on the matrix faders it raises the volume going into my computer AND the house (speakers in the auditorium) volume. How can I setup to where the matrix is independent of my house volume?
Starting with the gain structure of each channel, make sure you have enough gain coming into each channel (usually signal up to -9 on the meter). Then, build your mix which will go to the main output. Assuming you want that exact mix to go to the stream you will send a signal (in the sends tab) and make sure you get it up to "0" for level. I recommend setting the matrix as Pre-fader which means moving the actual volume faders for the matrix will not impact the volume... safeguard from the random finger-hitting-the-fader move. You then have EQ and compression options on the matrix to help get some more level, but I also recommend running the Precision Limiter after EQ and Comp to get the final mix level up for your stream.
Hello your video has been so helpful in our stream. I learned a lot from you
There’s a part in our church that we discuss something and we want the viewers online to hear it using a microphone without it being heard on the house. I hope you can help us. Thank you in advance
I plan to make a video to cover this soon as you are the fourth person to ask a question similar to this in just a few days. The basic idea is to select the channel, and find the Stereo LR Bus button (to the left of the screen) and make sure it is grey meaning it is turned off from the main BUS. If it is orange it will go to the main LR Bus and be heard in your house mix.
Great Tutorial. Now I am able to mix two mics in a M/S Setup. I copied the output of the side mic through a matrix and in the matrix I changed the polarity. So it was possible to bring the dry signal to the left an the polarity changed signal to the right. Now I can mix M/S direct in X32. Thank you.
That is a unique approach to getting the M/S setup. You can also duplicate tracks right on the console and have different polarity and channel strip for each one. I do this in a different fashion with my acoustic guitar in this video, but you could do it for any other instrument. czcams.com/video/3xnQFr0XD0I/video.html
@@AllamHouse Yes you are right. This is much easier than the matrix setup. The routing of the x32 can be very confusing for an analoge console and patchbay nerd like me. Thank you.
Awesome. OK where do I send all my savings ??? Great great help !!
Haha. I’m glad you found value in the video. Just wait until you want to make adjustments and then you can send the savings in. 😉
this is a big help... thanks a lot...
Thanks for the encouragement.
Super helpful!
Great video! Quick question, do you need a special USB B to USB A cable to connect the X32 to a laptop or will any cable do.
I just used a standard cable and was not able to see it in OBS. Trying to troubleshoot to see if it is the cable or something else that I am doing wrong. Thanks
All you need is a standard printer cable which is in fact USB A-B. If you are on a Windows machine you need to make sure you have downloaded the X-USB driver from the Behringer website.
Great Video! We used your One Console, One Tech video to get us going (It was awesome).
My question is what would be the advantage of using a matrix for your stream as opposed to a mixbus? Since the matrix follows the mains, it seems like you lose control over adjusting the mix specifically for the stream.
This video is an older video that I made early in the quarantine for people using their equipment to stream with no one in their house seats. Therefore you didn’t really need two mixes. Stick with what you have and you will be fine. In fact, this is the same seat up we are using now that we have people in the house AND on stream.
@@AllamHouse That makes total sense. Thanks.
Thanks for the video...I've seen you post many ways to get the mix out to livestream. Would love your thoughts on which is your currently preferred way, excluding a DAW mix for the moment? I currently use the stereo bus to matrix to usb route... As you mentioned somewhere, using the busses is probably the most flexible...but it does consume two busses which I could happily reclaim for IEM assignments that I need, but I wouldn't want to sacrifice the stream. Would love your thoughts
I do personally use the Post Fader MixBUS setup and find this to be the most versatile and user-friendly setup to use. Obviously, if you need more Buses for monitors than you have to start weighing out your options and make some choices, but I do prefer the Stereo MixBUS setup. The DP48's are great options for adding more monitors without taking up Buses. The P16's can work as well, but I find those to be too limiting. Let me know what solution you end up putting in place, I'm always curious.
Brother- this is what I've been looking for. Someone who explains it precisely for people like me who is not tech savvy 😊. One question, last night I did the USB set up video you have and set it on my board but now is we this one, which one will be best to run the live stream? Does USB mean I need to plug a usb cable and not AUX cable? I currently have it coming out of AUX out 1 and 2
It is your preference, but I personally run a post fader mix on a MixBUS and then send it out some XLR outputs to my video switcher. This video explains my setup.
czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
You can build your mix, and then send it out the AUX output like you are doing now, or send it out USB (which requires you to connect the X-USB slot on the back to your laptop with a cable), or send it out XLRs.
@@AllamHouse so I made it work but I did it out of a XLR output. I didn't set up the live stream. I've been trying to fix it because it wasn't coming through the board sound. I don't know if with just one XLR will come out stereo as I wanted it to do it with the Aux output. Anyway I can set up a session with you?
Yes, Go to my website and fill out the contact card. We can discuss a session that works for you.
This is all incredible info that even some years on is still very useful. Thank you. I do have one question: are these matrix capabilities also available on the X32 Producer, the smaller cousin of the X32?
Yes, every X32 has the same capability, just different amounts of faders or tools visible on the smaller platforms.
Ok thanks !@@AllamHouse
Good Morning Dave , I like to mix my streaming separate from my house mix . Will coming out of my Bus output will allow me to do that can you explain how to set that up . Thanks
Here you go man. I put together a video yesterday that covers this for you
czcams.com/video/Vx4HjArTeZI/video.html
Hi Dave, when you send the MainL/R to the matrix are you selecting Pre EQ to avoid any room EQ settings and then applying your own Matrix EQ for the stream? Also, are you sending FX to the matrix? I find the streams can use more reverb than in-house mixes. Thanks!
Yes, selecting PreEQ would be the best thing to do. I am not actually mixing in this fashion as I have an entire console dedicated for stream, but PreEQ will give you a flat curve to work from and then you can use the EQ on the Matrix to set for your stream. In terms of reverb, you are correct that it takes a much larger amount of reverb to make your stream sound natural and a bunch to make it sound "effected". I'm building some future videos to walk through in depth of my stream setup, but to get started you can just send the desired FX into the Matrix similar to what you did for the mains.
@@AllamHouse - How do you send LR to matrix preEQ?
@@jamesnjoroge8578 Select the BUS you want to send to the Matrix. Click Home > Sends on the screen and use the encoders to select the desired Matrix, select the Tap Point as Pre EQ and you can set the send level as well.
Howdy, and thanks for your training vids on x/m32. my question is how to do a live stream on an m32, and every vid I have watched has differing approaches, but really does not address any of the issues I have. I want to do a separate stream from my main mix, because the input fader settings need to be different, as the sound in house is different than the stream. I need to apply fx to the live stream as well, again separately from the inhouse fx settings. Thanks
I see you asked a similar question on two videos and I will answer more thoroughly on the other since it relates to my answer. I recommend tuning a Post Fader MixBUS and I explain it in this video here. This is the same setup I use. czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.htmlsi=VY1Mc6Xpk-JHsTvo
Hello Dave..
Thanks for your help in routing the mix for live streaming.
I need a help with this as well.
How to increase the lead vocal mic (or any individual channel) for the live stream with this set up.
Thanks!
Typically a matrix setup looses its individuality of the mix just based on the concept of a matrix. A matrix is a mix of buses and most people start out with the house mix (stereo LR Bus) and stop there. To further refine your matrix mix, you would need another bus to supplement and add to it. Here are two options of ways to enhance your mix. The first is a way to alter your current setup, the second is (I believe) a better option for live-streaming… and the way my church currently runs their mix. I hope these help you out.
1) Matrix Enhancement
czcams.com/video/hcXC68iQrNI/video.html
2) MixBUS Livestream Build
czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
Just had a quick question. My church sets up our live stream like this but for some reason when everything comes together on the stream it sounds distorted.
Have you checked to see if it is distorted on the board? You would attach headphones and hit the solo button on the matrix you are using.
If not, what streaming software are you sending the signal to on your computer? Depending on your setup you could be overloading the software or just routing the signal in a way that it doesn’t like.
So silly question. I am assuming the usb outs you're referring to is the daw usb in the back of the x32 unit?
That’s correct. There is (usually) a X-USB card on the back of the console that has a USB-B output that most people grab a USB printer cable to connect to their computer.
Thx for great videos! In this setup I need to know - how Can I Control The volume output separately for The streaming independently of The volume output sent to FOH?
You would make sure that your "send" from the mains is a "Pre-Fader" send. I actually discuss it in my most recent video. czcams.com/video/hcXC68iQrNI/video.html
Hi Dave, thank you so much for this video. With that Aux out used.. How do we then route the mix to play out on the computer using the aux out 1 &2 or any .
Here is a short video that covers the three ways to get a live stream out of the console and into a streaming device. czcams.com/video/xGt1z5I7blQ/video.html
I currently have something similar, but it’s just sending a direct copy from the mains to an aux out with the level tied to the main fader and external effects.
However, this seems like it would be better.
How would you add an audience mic or two into the mix that would just be on the stream mix and not in the house.
If you want to add audience mics you would need to utilize a Stereo BUS pair and add it into the matrix. I do discuss using an extra BUS with the Matrix in this video here. czcams.com/video/hcXC68iQrNI/video.html
I don’t like this Matrix route because a lot of your mix is based on the main mix going to your House mix and you really need to have a mix that is separate from the house. With this in mind, this setup here (Post Fader MixBUS) is really the way to go in my opinion. czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
Hello. Great video !
I need your help. I don't know use or send FX separatley in room and Matrix stream mix. I mean diffrent type of FX, and diffrent volume of FX, in room and stream mix.Thank you a lot.
Here are two videos that can help you get your FX setup in your stream. They are not specific about FX, but I cover concepts for FX in them.
This one has a section around minute 12 that covers FX czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
This one talks about setting up monitors which would be similar to FX. czcams.com/video/zwYcNieISF4/video.html
Hello and thank you for the video .. here is my question
Main to Matrix, Matrix to EQ, EQ to limiter and then routed to aux out .. Now will this still be able to send the same signal to the XLR outs ?? Or just from
aux 1-2 only .. ???
Yea, you can run it to both locations. The source will be the Matrix. You can then select that source to go out the AUX outs in the Routing>AUX tab and you can also use it as a source for XLR in the Routing>OUT tab.
Thanks for this video. I almost have Matrix 1/2 set up, but I must have done something wrong. The matrix is still mirroring the main L/R. I can’t control the volume going to my stream separately. Should the sends for matrix 1/2 show pre or post fader?
Usually, I recommend having the Matrix 1/2 be Pre-fader. This will allow you to adjust the amount of volume going to the stream by how much you are sending on the encoder knob.
@@AllamHouse Hi I also have the same problem. How do I set the main send out on a pre fader in the matrix? Thanks
How would you go about switching between this set up and multitrack recording for virtual sound check on the same board. Thanks
This video here discusses the virtual sound check. czcams.com/video/oPragZ_x7MQ/video.html
Thank you Dave so helpful! We do an in-person service and livestream the service. Will the limiter on the matrix mix affect the FOH during the in-person service?
No, as long as the Matrix is not feeding your mains. Assuming your Matrix mix is feeding your livestream, the limiter will not impact your FOH.
Thank you! We run an aux mix from the X32 to an ATEM Pro and used with OBS. Is this the correct routing?
This video discusses using the USB output on the back of the console to route into the computer. If your ATEM is like mine, we run our stream across XLR into the ATEM which is handled in the Routing > Out tab. If you have an ATEM Mini then you are probably going to go out the AUX out 5/6 on the back of the console and into the Mic1 input on the ATEM Mini. This routing would be handled in the Routing > AUX tab.
Hi Dave, amazing video. I'm currently using the mix bus set up from your other video. Pls which is better for livestreaming. Mix bus or matrix? Thank you sir
Either one is fine as long as it gets the job done and meets your needs. I personally use a MixBUS and have it setup as this video explains. czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
@@AllamHouse Thank you very much sir for your help. May God bless your family and ministry in Jesus name! I appreciate you
If I wanted to use the Aux Out as my output for stream would I follow the same steps besides the routing to usb?
Yes, if you want to use a Matrix for your stream you can do the method displayed in this video. The routing would be slightly different in that you would go to Routing > AUX tab and setup the Matrix source to go out the desired AUX outs.
As good as a Matrix is, many people use a Post-Fader BUS Mix to facilitate and have a little more flexibility within their mix. That full setup (the one my church uses) is in this video here. czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
I watched your two mix one engineer video. What is the benefit of using a matrix vs a bus or vice versa ?
The matrix and bus directly to USB was a process for people to stream when they had no congregation (in house) and the board was just being used to stream. Now that people have in house attendance and a stream, the 2 mix 1 engineer is the best of both worlds.
How can I delay the sound for the live stream can the matrix channels be delayed?
My guess is you are trying to delay the audio to match up with a video source that is a little lagging. The method I showed you will not directly allow you to add a delay. Many stream softwares have a built in feature to offer delay within the software itself. We use OBS and do this in sone of our scenes. I did find this video from Behringer, but it is more geared towards using a hardwired XLR or other cabled output from the console which allows you to easily set a delay inside the X32.
czcams.com/video/9UFePcb-Fqc/video.html
Hi 👋 Thanks for the video. I have that configuration, but I’m trying to use two mics for the crowd. I don’t need the mics on the mains because of the feedback. Can I assign them to a bus and then send that bus to matrix? Any advice?. Thanks again
Yes, you will deselect them from the Stereo LR Bus (mains) and just push them into a MixBUS that is added into the Matrix. I talk about a more involved attempt I put at using a matrix setup at my church in this video. czcams.com/video/hcXC68iQrNI/video.html
Which video shows the setup of the limiter? I can't find it.... Great video!
Thanks for the encouragement. I talk about the limiter in this video close to minute 20. Check the description for quick links
czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
So can I change the mix on the individual channels that are going into the mix ?
Ie, say the kick drum is to loud as it comes in to the mix, can I adjust it ?
This video was a quick solution to copy your house mix to your stream to make it work. This other video will walk you through setting up a specific mix that allows for a customization for your house and stream. czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
Loved your Video! Very informing and understandable.
Can you set this up so that when you mute a channel on the main mix it also mutes the Live stream mix?
I'm thinking of the speakers mic.
When I mute him in the main mix I also want it to be muted in the live stream mix.
Yes, if you use this Matrix approach or a Post-Fader MixBUS, they will both be impacted by you muting a channel. In either of these setups when you mute a channel it is muted in the house and the live stream mix.
Apprentice question here. How do I remove the click-and-talkback mic from my Matrix mix?
We need to think about why it is in there to begin with. Normally those channels should be removed from the Stereo BUS so you select the channel, find the Stereo BUS button to the left of the screen and make sure it is NOT orange. This removes the input from going to the house mix. Then you can decide where you want to send that input… normally to a BUS for monitors. Make sure you aren’t sending a monitor BUS signal into your Matrix.
Sir thank you so much for your videos. We are a church and we have been struggling in getting the same quality inhouse, to translate to our stream. Please may you provide some clarity about the matrix mix. How do you make sure that all your channels are feeding into the matrix
I’m actually making a matrix mix video that will release this weekend. Typically a matrix will start with a copy of the house going to the matrix and then a stereo MixBUS pair to supplement natural sounding instruments in your room to have the same impact in your livestream. I personally prefer a Post-Fader AUX mix approach, but the matrix is another popular setup.
Hi when you select user out Can you select one channel only instead of 8 channels at it time? I want to use bus 16 to send to OBS for streaming, I’m out of buses in the x32. So I will sacrifice an fx channel for out put bus for OBS. I’m just think how can I make it qork
Here is a general walkthrough:
1) Select the desired MixBUS and build your mix
2) Go to Effects > Home, mouse over the FX rack that corresponds to the MixBUS you are using, then set the source to "Insert"
3) Go to Routing > Out and make sure the MixBUS is routed out a desired output (in your case it would probably be 13 or 14 since mains are 15/16)
4) Finally, go to Routing > User Outs and set the output to go out Card 1/2 so your computer will pick it up.
This setup is not difficult, but will have a number of steps to go through to make it work in your setup. I'm happy to help one-on-one if you want to go that route for a faster solution. If so, reach out on my contact card on my website at sound.allamhouse.com
I have my stage monitors in AUX 1 & 2. I don't know if routing the MATRIX signal to AUX 1 & 2 will be impacted by the monitors mix.
We have to be specific about the lingo we use here as it makes a difference for clarity and understanding. Many people will interchange the word BUS and AUX in terms of mixing, but there are also AUX ins/outs which are different. Hopefully this is helpful to you.
If you have monitor mixes built on Bus 1/2 and they are leaving the console on XLR 1/2 there will be no issue with routing your Matrix mix to AUX 1/2. The XLR outs are separate settings from the AUX outs.
If you have monitor mixes built on Bus 1/2 and they are leaving the console on 1/4" cables going out AUX 1/2 then you have already routed a mix to these specific outputs and you can not route your Matrix to these outputs. You would need to use some of the other AUX outputs 3-6 to be able to move forward without impacting your monitors.
I’m fairly new to this and your videos have been extremely helpful. Currently my church is using a Behringer USB audio interface to stream to Facebook/youtube, but we also want to create a different source for Instagram Live stream using a separate interface for it. Is it possible to use the same Stream Bus or do I create on another bus pair for Instagram?
You have a few options. You can take whatever mix you are sending now and duplicate it in the routing area to go out additional outputs. I personally don’t like using additional interfaces since the console is a 32 channel interface that can send across USB using the X-USB card on the back of the console. Less gear means less troubleshooting spots. That being said, this video might help if you decide to use the AUX outs on the back of the console for additional outputs. czcams.com/video/xGt1z5I7blQ/video.htmlsi=IZ_ijmIrfAlNDYNy
hello! how can I add 2 ambient microphones only for live streaming. Can I send direct to MTX or AUX ? I don`t want them on house mix.
You will connect your room mics like any other mic. Set proper gain structure and then add any EQ and Compression that you want. Go to the left of the screen and de-select the Main LR Bus button which removes this channel from going to your house mix. Push your input fader up to unity and then repeat this for your second mic. Now, choose a BUS, hit "sends on fader" and add these mics into the BUS and you can add the BUS to your Matrix stream mix or if you are using a Stereo BUS for livestream you can just select that BUS and add them directly into that stream BUS.
If I was using a mix bus to send to the USB out to a laptop, would this setup give me more control of the mix?
A MixBUS for your livestream gives you the most flexibility for your stream mix. You can set the input levels individually for the stream. If you go with a Matrix you are either starting with your main mix or you are working with groups (buses) to send into the matrix. I hope this helps you out.
Hi! Newbie here. Now that we have 2 channels routed to Aux 1 and 2, what cables do you suggest I use to bring both signals into one input(for laptop)?
This video walks through the three different methods for getting your live stream signal out of the console. I personally use a Post Fader MixBUS setup as opposed to a matrix, but either can be routed out of the console and select one of these three methods for your connection. czcams.com/video/xGt1z5I7blQ/video.html
Hi i have been so inspire by videos pls inhave a question how do I send a bus into my matrix for a live stream
To send a bus into a matrix all you need to do is go to the matrix later on the right side of the console. Select the matrix you want to adjust. Hit sends on fader button. Then go to the bottom layer (busses) on the left side of the console and you can raise the fader for the bus you want to add into the matrix. This is similar to adding inputs into a bus, you are just adding a bus into a matrix.
One of the beter routing explanations of the matrix I've seen. I have another slight issue I'm chasing down. This console is driving me a bit crazy in this regard. I run a couple of ambient audience mics to liven up the recordings. In a DAW this isn't hard as I can just select the Direct outs from the console and input to my daw. For my livestream I DO NOT want these routed to the MAIN LR mix. I do not seem to be able to figure out my routing. Currently I'm running a submix to a mixbus on the M32 so I can control my stream mix with the M32 app and an iPad. I can only route my audience mics to the mixbus and have them show up if they are active and in the main mix. I routed outputs from the mixbus to an aux out and use a hard connection from there to feed my stream audio. Any thoughts on how to get a channel input into the mixbus WITHOUT runing it into my main mix?
This is a consistent question and I need to make a video about it. Luckily this is a pretty simple fix. First, I recommend making your MIX Bus a pre-fader setup which will allow the mix to not be impacted by your main faders, but only on your iPad. Then, Select the crowd mic channel(s) one at a time and go to the LR button just to the left of the screen. Make sure it is NOT lit. Then bring your fader up with the iPad and it should work.
If you have your MIX Bus set to Post-fader then you will need to deselect the LR button and then bring the fader to unity (0) before controlling it with the iPad.
@@AllamHouse Brilliant! That was what I was after. I couldn't figure out how to unassigns from the main bus. I got the prefader bit but that was a little perplexing trying to figure that out. Really great video series. I've been sending them to the my team. Most of the tutorials were exactly what I have been making for them as training aids. You saved me a ton of time in making the vids for them! Thanks for the help. Great is the reward in heaven! blessings
Wow I’m facing this issue 3 years later. I’m using an M32 and I have subgroups going to the main and the main going into a Matrix for my Livestream mix (just like the video). I don’t have more mix-buses cus I’ve used the available ones for subgroups. I need to route my ambient (crowd mics) to the livestream Matrix but not have them go into a subgroup because all the subgroups are routed to the main PA. Please how can I get this done?
Is the copy from main mix to matrix 1/2 pre fader? Where do I set that?
In this example I sent the main to the matrix with a Pre Fader configuration so that any changes to my house volume would not impact the live stream.
hello Dave how to route your mono/c to your stream cause some of us use it for our subs
There is no way to push a matrix (M/C) back into another matrix. In theory your inputs would be going into your main mix and therefore they could get pushed to your stream matrix. You can change the tap point of your main mix going to your stream to be Pre-EQ and that would send a full spectrum of audio into your stream matrix where you could the EQ at the stream level. I personally would go a different route when using a matrix and you could do it this way... czcams.com/video/hcXC68iQrNI/video.html
So if I send the stream out over usb aux 1 & 2 that will mess up my ability to record the 32 channels with Track Live?
You just need to make some small changes in your routing. This video discusses everything.
czcams.com/video/Zb6ngDBuaDE/video.html
Currently I have ,y live stream going to Bus 5 and 6 and when I turn up bus 5/6 it also increases my volume on my mains? so if I which to a matrix will this stop
There are a few possibilities why this is happening. I would personally run a MixBUS for my stream, make sure it is Post-Fader and setup it up like this to start... czcams.com/video/Vx4HjArTeZI/video.html
Great video. I am using the m32r and i will be able to follow the logic and process. However I would like to use an xlr output from locals on back of board. Lets say aux output 8. In routing screen how do i set this up?
So, you mention trying to route out aux output 8. There are only 6 aux outputs on the console and then there are 16 XLR outputs. Which are you trying to use… the aux outputs or XLR outputs? This determines the instructions for your solution.
Sorry xlr outputs. Would use number 6
Thankyou🙏 haw to conect ceble or USB?
I’m glad the video was helpful. Heck out this video which talks about different connections to get your mix out of the console. czcams.com/video/xGt1z5I7blQ/video.htmlsi=JVXDlryrt2YIP_P3
How are you routing to your stream? what software? using an interface?
We use OBS to manage our stream, but most streaming software handle the audio-in from the board the same way. We run a USB cable from the back of the console into the computer. Internally your route your stream audio to USB 1&2 and this allows your stream software to get the audio in with no additional interface needed.
i have to ask, in this way the house mix affect de stream mix? or are totally independent?
In this Matrix setup any changes to the house mix will impact the live stream mix as well. If you want an independent mix you will want to run a Pre-Fader MixBUS setup where you will need a mix engineer for house and a second one for the stream. This video talks about that setup. czcams.com/video/Vx4HjArTeZI/video.html
Greetings. How can I add this output from the matrix to the OBS?
And will I be able to simultaneously broadcast live, record a multitrack and play audio from a laptop via USB?
This is a thick question with many parts that I hope I can cover briefly.
1) OBS will only recognize signal from USB 1/2 so you will need to get your stream mix leaving the console on these two channels. Make sure you have added the X-USB driver on a windows machine (unneeded for Mac).
2) If you have all these in place and you do not have sound in OBS you will need to check your security settings. This video covers that for both Windows and Mac. czcams.com/video/wBHxLNjcZzo/video.html
3) If you want to stream and record, this video talks through those details and all the things to consider. Obviously, you want to make sure your computer can handle the processing of recording and streaming at the same time. czcams.com/video/geXp2Vckfpw/video.html
4) Your last item speaks to playing audio from the laptop across USB and I assume that is while also multitrack recording and streaming. This will put some stress on your computer for sure so test this before trying to run it live. In terms of the routing, the computer will send into the console across USB1/2 (as an input) and you can map this to some of the AUX Ins using the custom User In settings. These input settings should not conflict with your output settings that were discussed in point #3 above.
David from Allam-Houseon the X32 How do you switch two channel faders to one monitor without going to the main front of the house?
It sounds like you are trying to send some inputs over to a monitor so your musicians can hear themselves. If this is the case, you will use a Bus, select it, hit sends on fader and turn up the input faders you want to feed into that monitor. This video talks about setting up monitors. czcams.com/video/zwYcNieISF4/video.html
Hi Dave, good morning. I understand completely, I have q question though. Is there a way to connect the X-USB to 2 different computer. I have my Live Streaming software on a windows system but my DAW is on a mac. Can the USB slot be split or is there a workaround? Thanks
I have not adventured down this path, but plan to soon. Most people that do this and run to multiple places end up using DANTE to be able to manage all of the networking needs. I do plan to look into this soon though as it is becoming more of an ideal situation.
AllamHouse Great thanks. I’ll do the same on my end. Appreciate it.
I have a problem the music director mic how can take it off from this cause he sound on the stream
Hello bro thanks for your video i have one cuestion! We rearranged the channels of the multitracks of the Motu mk lite 5 we separate in difrents channels some instruments to have better control of the sound. The sound of House sounds amazing very well mixed we send the mix to and behringer 2 channel stereo and then goes to vmix so simple the problem we have is we are getting high db level from the 1 and 2 (mains) channels of the MOTU wich are the synth/pads/piano and from the 7 and 8 wich are Percution/loops those channels sound very loud on the facebook online the weird thing is in the house sounds very good the high DB are only on the online service i dont know what can i do! Of course we have a Matrix to send that to broadcast! Dont known if is a firmware problem 😕
Typically, I do not use a Matrix setup (copy of the mains) because the main speakers and room you are in are paired together to sound good and be mixed/EQ’d specifically for this pairing. Everywhere else you send this mix needs to be mixed to be on a phone, car, or other player that is not your room. For this reason, I use a MixBUS pair to craft my mix specific to the livestream needs. This would allow you to turn down the volumes on the instruments that are too loud and make a better experience for your listeners. This video here is a basic walk through of the setup I use. czcams.com/video/Vx4HjArTeZI/video.html
With this mix will the sound play in the house and on stream?
Yes, this will take exactly what you have in your house mix and send a copy to your stream.
Can you share how you recorded multiple channels and then play them back through the X32? I would really like to capture the raw signals coming into our board so I can "dial in" my mix without having to rely on the band being present. Thanks!
This is actually the video I am workin on right now. I hope to put it out this weekend.
The short version is to connect the X-USB to a laptop, download TracksLive from waves (or a DAW of your choice), setup a 1 to 1 mapping of inputs and outputs from the DAW to the console, arm the tracks and record your band.
The playback requires a quick change in the routing area of the console, but I’ll put it all in my next video.
@@AllamHouse Thanks! I look forward to what else I can learn!
Here it is... czcams.com/video/oPragZ_x7MQ/video.html
silly question - I'm pushing Mix Bus 9 and 10 to Output 1 and 2 (so my live stream hears it on output 1 and 2) BUT when I'm recording to SD card it seems that now records my live stream mix instead of Channel 1 and 2. Does this section effect the SD card recording?
Yes, the card settings will impact your SD card recorder. This video discusses the setup and things to consider when trying to livestream on ISB and multitrack record at the same time. czcams.com/video/Zb6ngDBuaDE/video.htmlsi=WFhXkgTDh4DHGoYM
Thank you so much!!!
Show me where the usb port that goes to computor. on back of sound board
If you have the standard Behringer X32, there is a card on the back that has two, small metal poles coming out of it and it is labeled X-USB. There will be a red light next to the USB connector. Keep in mind you are using an older printer cable style so it is USB A on one side and USB B on the other. There will be a similar looking plug labeled "network", but that is NOT the connection you are looking to use.
If you happen to have the X-Live card (also stock on the Midas M32) you will see the same USB connector. If you have a different card installed like a MADI or DANTE card then you will not find a USB option there.
hi ,if i use Matrix , do i need to still use output 1and 2 ,like before video your said .thanks
Step one is to decide which output type you want to use. Matrix will send a copy of the mains to the matrix you select. Then, to get it into your streaming software the easiest, set that Matrix Group to go out USB 1&2. This will allow your computer to pick it up easily.
AllamHouse thanks
Great this is so awesome thanks for the info, quick question how can i control volume separately, if i mute o turn down my main fader this will affect my matrix too how can i control this, thank you again
You could setup the Matrix as a Pre-Fader setup which would remove the main fader volume from affecting your stream volume. Or you could go with a much more refined setup similar to the one in this video which gives you a lot more control over your mix. czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
@@AllamHouse i tried in pre fader but it doesn't work performing the same, I have a midas m32 it should be the same as the x32
@@AllamHouse got that solve but why i have my chanel 1 and 2 unavailable ?
Not sure what you mean by ‘unavailable’. Are they not working in general or are you not getting them somewhere specific?
@@AllamHouse Hello, i followed all your steps and it works great, but channel 1 and 2 if i hook a mic or an instrument i wont get any signal at all.
I completed the basic routing setup last week from the other CZcams video. I quickly realized that I would need to figure out how to control the volume of them separately. If I do this will I need to erase what I did from the initial setup?
Thank you again for your help and support!
Yes, just do what this video says and it will overwrite what you did from the last video. This will give you individual volume control which is the desired way to go for the stream.
So good! Thank you again!
I have my sub ran through the monitor channel M/C but it will not send through my Matrix Aux1 which is feeding my Facebook feed. So I have no Bass Drum or Bass in my FB Feed.?.?
Yeah, although the M/C channel is a bus by design, it is not able to be added to a matrix like other buses. I personally use a Post Fader MixBUS setup for my stream which allows me to have access to all of my inputs and not be limited to Buses. Here is a video that discusses my setup in case you are curious. czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
I have a question. Why did you route from matrix to aux?
Can't the matrix be routed straight to USB?
Also, if I select a matrix, will pressing sends on fader open up it's own mix or is that feature only for a mixbus?
Thanks in advance!
Yes, you can route the Matrix directly to USB, but some people don’t use USB and need to use a physical output to go from the console to their video switcher which is what the AUX outs allows them to do.
A MixBUS is a mix of inputs, but a Matrix is a mix of MixBUS so when you select a Matrix and hit ‘sends on fader’ the MixBUS layer is the one that will allow signal to be sent to the Matrix.
@@AllamHouse thanks for your help! :)
Another question, Dave. If I want to send the livestream out from a mixbus output (not card output), do I need a soundcard?
You certainly can send your mix out the XLRs on the back of the console. By default the outputs are linked to the MixBUSs, but you want to confirm in the routing section. Here is a video that discusses the routing screen that might be helpful. czcams.com/video/PpeqRuPGi2Y/video.html
@@AllamHouse maybe I wasn't clear enough. Do I need a soundcard to input the audio on my streaming PC?
I see. All of the machines I have worked with do have a sound card, but I believe (in theory) you can plug in the USB cable and download the driver from Behringer's website and it should work with no sound card.
is there a video showing how to do this on x32edit 4.1? i do not currently have access to the x32 console that i use
I’ll have to download that newer version of X32 edit. I know the layout changed and I’m still using the old version of edit which looks similar to the actual console. I might be able to put something together in a few days to post for you if you don’t figure it out before then.
@@AllamHouse thanks, i think i have it right, but want to make sure. the owner of my sound company does not like the digital consoles, so i have to make absolute sure it will work the first time
I can’t found user settings.I think the one there I have is different firmware . Any help please!
The custom user settings are in firmware version 4.0 or higher. Make sure to save your scene on your soundboard BEFORE you load the new firmware so you don't delete all of your existing settings.
OBS recognizes the x-usb, I have followed your steps but no audio is being received by OBS.
Take a look through this video which covers the common settings that need to be changed in this situation. czcams.com/video/wBHxLNjcZzo/video.html
Hi, I need some help routing the main outputs in an X32 compact to the XUF card. I've followed all the steps but I think I'm missing something.
The easiest thing to do is:
1) Go to Routing > Outs and confirm you have Output 7 set to Main L and Output 8 set to Main R. If not, that is okay, just note what outputs are being sourced by Main L/R, but I am assuming you are using Output 7/8.
2) Go to User Out and set User Out 1 to source from Output 7
3) Go to User Out and set User Out 2 to source from Output 8
4) Go to Routing > Card and under Output 1-8 select User Out 1-8. You should see Main L and Main R show up in the graph to the far right.
5) Plug a USB A-B cable from the X-USB slot to your computer
6) Make sure you have the driver installed on your computer if you are using a Windows machine.
Note that this will ONLY send your Main LR out and you loose some functionality across the USB. If you need to still have access to the rest of your channels across USB you might consider a custom approach as I discuss in this video. Understand I am talking about a live stream mix in the video where you would be using the Main L/R.
czcams.com/video/Zb6ngDBuaDE/video.html
Thanks so much Allam ... I will do it . I'm not expert with consoles. In the past the console was working properly but two months ago we can't route the main more. I will follow the instructions mentioned before.
I really appreciate your help and time
Hi Dave, what’s if you are using the usb out of the behringer for out music input. We use it for click, tempo, and tracks. Is there another way
So, you are using the X-USB card to get click and tracks into the console. You can still send the stream mix back to the same computer on the same USB cable. How do you currently have your stream audio getting to your stream? Do you have a video switcher? do you stream from another computer? Let me know what tools (components) you have in your setup and I can guide on the best setup.
@@AllamHouse we stream to another Mac, the band uses the audio card fro the tracks and click. I send it to a bus to the Mac to get it to the Mac witch send audio to zoom. I just set it up to use a matrix to zoom and another matrix send it to Facebook. Have not tried it yet. I just saw your video and on Friday will work on all the details. But I was hoping to sent it with a much cleaner audio from mixer to Mac to Facebook and zoom May be there is no way to do that. We are small church in Chula Vista Ca and with COVIDits and weather it’s impossible to meet in the building so we are trying to bring the best we can to our brothers and sisters
@@AllamHouse Thxs for taking the time to help
My sound engineer is using matrix for our church livestream…however the bass is super low in the livestream…He said if I turn up the gain or slide the bass guitar channel up, it won’t affect the volume in the live. I’m guessing the di box I’m using is sending poor signal to the matrix..what do I have to do to turn up the bass guitar volume only in the live??? By the way, he created a bus guitar bus mix too
Thanks for reaching out. A Matrix does remove some of the flexibility of individual instruments into your livestream since you are using the main mix and/or buses to feed the matrix. That being said, you do have a few things I would want you to check.
(1) Check the gain on the fader input to make sure you have enough signal coming into the board. Often times we have subs in our PA which require way less gain from kick drum and bass guitar and then we only turn up the gain according to what we hear in the house mix. That causes problems downstream and I tend to like having my input levels at -12dB on the input meter of the console.
(2) Once you have the correct gain set, now move forward with making sure your house mix is still correct. You might need to turn down the input fader for the bass if it is too much now.
(3) Finally, set the bass guitar in the broadcast mix if possible. You mentioned a guitar bus being used. If that is being used for just broadcast then that is the location you want to turn it up a little (if needed). If that bus is sending to your house mix and causing it to be too much then you might consider adjusting your house PA a little to handle the higher level of the bass guitar.
@@AllamHouse wow I’m
Humbled sir for taking this much time out of your precious and busy schedule to answer my question. I appreciate you immensely and God bless you boss 🫡🙏🏿
Can you add the limiter to the main LR first, guess its better to eq the matrix then limit?
While you can make that change of the limiter, most people aren't looking to run a limiter for their house mix. This approach of a Matrix for live stream that begins with the house mix will allow you to build your house mix and then augment it as needed for your live stream. In the end, you will need to create two different mixes... one for your room and one for your stream. Both will have different needs to make them set well in their own space. I personally don't use a Matrix since it doesn't give me any additional benefits from running a Post Fader MixBUS setup. This video covers that MixBUS setup and how I run my live stream every week. You might find more benefit from this setup here. czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
@@AllamHouse thanks, I'm using matrices for front of house, monitors and a sub, so hope to eq all separatly and have a limiter on all matrices as a bit of a safeguard. I currently just have it on the main LR so was wondering if I should leave it there... Thanks, your videos are a blessing🙏
HEllo, thanks a lot for the Video. But i have a small question: You routed 1. Faders to Main 2. Main to Matrix 3. Matrix to Aux 4. Aux to USB using User section. But why did u use there an additional routing step? I cant understand the reason for that I would have done like: 1. Faders to Main 2. Main to Matrix and 4. Matrix to USB using User section. What is the difference and advantage of this additional routing step? Thanks in Advance
Matrix cannot be routed directly to USB. They have to be routed to a physical output and then the physical output can be routed to USB. In this case, I did not want to use any additional XLR Outputs in the Routing > Out section so I decided to route to a pair of AUX Outs. In my current setup, I actually do route my Matrix to a pair of XLR Outs since I had it available. I hope that helps you understand.
@@AllamHouse can it be routed to physical outputs that I don't actually have? Meaning on the X32 Producer, there are only 8 XLR outputs. Am I able to select 15/16 or even AES or something like that? (I'm already using the Aux outs)
You can set it to “virtual outputs” (9-16) for your setup, but then you need to get it out of the console to your stream. If all of your physical outputs are being used you will need to go with USB to get it to a streaming device.
@@AllamHouse yes, that’s the sole destination, USB. Thanks! I hoped it would worked that way.
This is great but I have the usb card that records the unprocessed isolated 32 ch to SD by doing this will I still get my isolated tracks on the SD cards?
Here is a link to a video that would allow you to setup a live stream going over USB 1&2 and then all other tracks still available for raw multitrack recording.
czcams.com/video/Zb6ngDBuaDE/video.html
@@AllamHouse my obstacle is that I bring in music that I play to over usb from my mac that also has to go back to zoom as I play along to it. Any advice for that? Can I pay you for a one hour zoom call where you can coach me?
I do private consultation. Just go to my website sound.allamhouse.com and click on the contact card to get started. We will move forward via email.
How to physically connect, route, a matrix fed subwoofer?
Thanks for the question. I decided just to shoot a video as a response. Check this out and let me know if you have other questions. czcams.com/video/Wx8NW6JdpwQ/video.html
@@AllamHouse thank you for taking the time to reply sor
Do you know of any sofeware that could translate English to Spanish connecting it to the x32 for church services?
I do not personally know of any service that does this. I am sure there is some sort of closed caption option, but I'm not sure if you are looking to have it converted into Spanish text or actual Spanish spoken language. Either way, I have never looked for anything like this before. Good luck in your searching.
Question. How did you get the x32 and OBS to send and receive with 44.1k? I can only get it to work with 48k but with a lot of pops and clicks lag issues. Please advise...
The video side of things should stay at 48k and this you will need to change your audio to 48k as well. The change is simple in the x32 and should allow everything to align properly. I currently am using a similar setup with OBS as my main output to CZcams on Sundays and I am running at 48k.
@@AllamHouse Bless up man. You have put my mind at rest. Many thanks again for you beautiful😊😊😊🤗🤗🤗🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Sorry for the mis-type. I meant "beautiful help"...😊😊😊
Hello! By this routing can I record that matrix in Logic Pro? Thank you!
Yes, you can have Logic Pro with a two channel input set to get signal from USB 1/2 and that will be your stream mix. If you wanted to multitrack record and live stream at the same time there is a slightly different setup which I cover in this video here: czcams.com/video/Zb6ngDBuaDE/video.html
@@AllamHouse Thank you so so much!!!
Noob sound guy here. How is your board connected to your PC for the live streaming?
You will use a USB A to B cable (printer cable) and connect from the X-USB card on the back of the console and then to your PC.
Hi AllamHouse. I need help: we set a subwoofer using the M/C and now our livestream don’t have any lows. Any advice?
How is your livestream setup on your board? MixBUS? Matrix? These are important things to understanding the setup and then troubleshooting what changed.
I personally tend to lean on using a Post Fader MixBUS to allow for an independent mix for both house and stream, but you do have the advantage of the stream following movements in the house for ease of mixing. I discuss that entire setup in this video here czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
@@AllamHouse thanks for your quick reply. We learned from the video above 👆 . We are using Aux 1 & 2 and Matrix.
My assumption is that adding a subwoofer into your system caused your to turn your low frequency instruments down which in turn impacted your stream. If you want to stick with the matrix setup I recommend adding a BUS to augment your Stereo LR bus in your matrix. I discuss it on this video here. czcams.com/video/hcXC68iQrNI/video.html
I personally went down the path of a matrix and it never fit well for my scenario. I use a Post-Fader MixBUS which gives me two separate mixes for one engineer. Here is that setup. czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
@@AllamHouse thanks 🙏 I will try this way. But, how can I switch from matrix to this method? How do I route the new buses to OBS?
This video discusses the routing across USB for this setup. The other video I mentioned covers all the build and reasons behind the setup. czcams.com/video/Vx4HjArTeZI/video.html
Hello again, i want to EQ my Main L and R seperately. And these outputs also should be Stereo so that my panning of individual channels will also reflect on Main LR. How can i do this on M32 or X32? Tnaks
In this case you can choose a different tap point when you send your mains to send to your Matrix. If you select Pre-EQ this will take the signal before the EQ and Compressor and send it to your Matrix. This allows you to EQ the mains and Matrix separate. You make this change by selecting the Main, go to Hone > Sends and then on the screen you will arrow down to the second page to find the tap point for the matrix send.
@@AllamHouse Hi, thanks for the Reply. I did not mean that Allem. Actually my question was, how can i EQ or Delay Left and right outputs separately. if i send my Main L/R to 2 different Matrizes i can do this. But the stereo Signal on Main L/R will be summed as a Mono Signal and here i cant here any thing that i panned on my individuell channels. From the other hand i can send the stereo Channel to 2 linked Matrizes , which will sent stereo signal to my main left PA and right PA. BUT i cant EQ or delay those 2 outputs separately. thats my question. Hope this made it clear. 🙂
That makes more sense now. The only workaround I can see is using the onboard FX racks to trick the Mains. You can add a Dual a compressor to the mains and compress each side different, then send this to a linked Matrox where you add a Dual EQ and EQ each side different. I’m not actually at the board right now to test this, but it is the only thing that could save your panning and provide the unique EQ and Comp for each side.
How can one add a second pair of headset to work on the Internet output?
I think you are asking about how to have two sets of headphones available to listen to your livestream mix at the console. If this is the case, the full-size and compact consoles offer two headphone outputs in the handles. You can plug in two headphones and this will allow you to hear the same thing in both headphones. The Producer and Rack versions only have one output so you would need to get a basic 1/4” Y adapter to provide you the ability to plug two headphones in. If you are trying to ask something different, please Reams the question and I can assist you further.
Thank you for your answer. The two headphone ports work on the same audio output.
We have the case where 2 people are working on the House and internet feed at the same time. And they need to hear different outputs
In this situation you will need to setup something like a monitor you would use on stage (In-Ear to be specific). You don't need to have custom in-ear monitors, but it will utilize a headphone amp and some headphones. Your engineer working the house mix will use the connection on the soundboard and the person running the live stream mix would use this additional setup. Obviously, you will want a stereo monitor for your live stream engineer and there are two options depending on your proximity to the soundboard. You can purchase a wireless transmitter and connect your Stream BUS output to this monitor and it is all set to go. You can also grab a headphone amp to use which would allow you to connect it to the board to provide a wired headphone connection. Lastly, you can use the AUX outs on the back of the board (along with a little routing adjustment) to send into a 2 channel audio interface which would then provide you with a headphone connection. In the end you will need to determine how far this live stream engineer is from console and then find the best option to fit your budget.
Hi Rev Calvert here Christ gospel, Been watching your videos , having trouble with live stream, Have Berringer x32
ATEM switcher constellation M/1 10 channel Black Magic
live stream is on a matrix? or bus not quite sure Live stream is on Bus 1 and bus 2 , linked,
Issue- When i move house volume it moves up live stream volume and tad like 20 percent , cannot get the volume i need on live stream, maxed out on atem gains, maxed out on gain sliders on the main board , mix is good or getting close
Volumes way way low on live stream i figure its something in the matrix not set up properly
This is a common problem and it will start with setting proper gain structure for each input coming into the X32. This video here addresses this idea and why it is a common problem. czcams.com/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/video.html
Once you have the gain set properly and you rebuild your stream mix, note that you are running a Stereo Bus Mix since you stated you are using Buses 1/2 linked. It sounds like you are using a Post Fader MixBUS stream and if you need to you can review this video here. czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
Hi if you could respond I will greatly appreacitw it so I need to connect from the usb out to the computer and it only takes in 1-8 and I need to configure to a bus if you or anyone can help it will be greatly appreciated
There are a few different ways to build a mix for live stream inside the console. These main ways are (1) using the entire console… Main mix, (2) Using a Matrix, or (3) using a Bus… usually a linked pair to create stereo sound. Once you decide what’s best for you, this video covered the three different ways to get that mix out of the console and into your streaming device. czcams.com/video/xGt1z5I7blQ/video.htmlsi=adUGuY0aNrGBVk00
How do I send the matrix to one of our bus instead of an aux? I would like our main mix to go to our foyer speakers that are already connected to two lines on our BUS.
I’m not exactly sure of your current setup to help you figure out your next step.
You can add your main house mix into a matrix using the method discussed in the video. You could add a MixBUS in addition to the main (or just as a stand alone mix into the matrix) by selecting the matrix on the right side of the console. Then click sends on fader and (on the left side of the console) go to the bottom layer for MixBUS. Then raise the fader for the MixBUS you want to add into the matrix.
@@AllamHouse I need bus 6,7, & 8 to get the exact same mix as the main. I've tried to set up a matrix from your video pulling in the LR main feed as Matrix 1/2. Now I just need to send that matrix to BUS 7/8, but I'm not sure how to set bus 7/8 to pull from Matrix 1/2. Bus 6 would have to be a mono feed, but that's less of a priority for now.
It sounds like you are trying to send a house mix to different rooms or locations. The easiest thing to do is follow this video to send your house mix to multiple matrix, then you can send that out to various outputs on the back of the console. A matrix is a mix of buses so it is only a one-way setup. You can send a Bus to a matrix, but you can’t send a matrix to a bus. Does your output need to be in stereo or can it be in mono?
@@AllamHouse that is the issue we have had. It can be mono. The foyer and balcony speakers just need to get the house mix and they are outputs set up as buses currently and so I just need to send that main mono mix to a couple of outputs (I just know they set it up for us to easily control volume as a bus so I'm not sure how to send that main mix to a specific output instead of a bus). Since it's sending a matrix to a bus that has been my problem. I'm very new to this all though.
So the easiest thing to do is make 1 matrix that you like with your desired mix. Then choose an XLR output that will send the signal from the board to each of the desired locations (most likely amps for each location). Then, in the Routing section of the console go to “outs” and set the selected XLR outputs to be fed by the one matrix mix you built. This only takes one matrix and duplicates it for many locations.
Can I route to a bus instead of an aux?
So, you can't send a Matrix to a Bus as they work the other way. You can send inputs to Buses and Buses to Matrix. Then the routing requires us to choose available options for sending out of the console. I personally use the Post Fader MixBus for my stream and below are a few videos that cover the top to bottom setup and a second video for the routing to get the mix out of the console.
Routing Setup: czcams.com/video/xGt1z5I7blQ/video.html
Build/Refine Mix: czcams.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/video.html
should i send my USB output postfader or something else?
You would want to do post-fader so your volume fader of the Matrix will control your stream volume.
With my current setting, if I raise the house to anymore it will be to loud in house, but my stream volume is still low when listen I online. OBS is optimized already, so how can I higher the input on the stream more than the house? I’m already setup with a Matrix
It all starts with proper gain structure and then some mastering techniques. Check out this video as a starting place.
czcams.com/video/-RjP3IKFfqM/video.html
Brilliant! Thank you sir
Hello! What is this firmware?
Firmware V4.x is found on the Behringer website. You can download it to a thumb drive and then load it to the console to get the feature updates. Make sure to save your scene before doing the update. This video walks you through saving scenes. czcams.com/video/G0bqVeviRKg/video.html
Hey Dave so I’m in Richmond, VA as well, is it a way I can connect with you or call you?
Certainly. Go to my website and fill out the contact card. I’ll reply directly and we can connect.
@@AllamHouse ok Great
I replied back to the contact card. Let me know when you want to catch up.
I followed all the steps and try to record USB channels 1 & 2 in Reaper, but nothing is coming through. This is driving me mad....
1) check (one more time) that you have the routing on the console done correctly.
2) If you have a Windows machine, make sure you have downloaded the X-USB driver from the Behringer website.
3) If you still do not see anything, check this video here for the security settings to check on both Mac and Windows. czcams.com/video/wBHxLNjcZzo/video.html
@@AllamHouse Routing is correct. I also see the aux send channels 1 and 2 moving. The security settings on my Mac do not have a microphone option, so that is no use. BTW I do not use the effects (should I?)
Well, I added the effect, and now it works! Strange...
This seems odd that you added FX and now the signal is being received by the DAW. It would be interesting to look at your routing settings for an educational moment and see what is going on under the hood. I'm glad you got it working.
@@AllamHouse Well, today it stopped working again! It looks like my USB connection to Reaper on my Mac is very unstable. Maybe I should upgrade to a more recent version of Reaper...OK, restarting Reaper fixed it....