What's New in the Bike Industry? Looking for Big Brain Ideas at Sea Otter Classic 2024
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- Sea Otter 2024 is the biggest bike trade show of the year, featuring new products, exciting technology, and industry announcements. In today's video we visit a bunch of different booths to focus on the big brains thinking outside the box in this industry. Did you learn something new? Say thanks and support this channel: www.buymeacoffee.com/bigbrain...
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0:00 Intro
0:17 Stanton Sedona Signature Hardtail
2:10 5 Dev's New Cranks
4:34 Omnium Cargo Bikes
8:49 Madrone Cycling Components
10:19 TSB Technology
12:23 WTB Saddle Measurement Tool
15:45 Industry Nine
17:57 Cascade Components
20:16 Reform Custom Saddles
22:25 Classified Bluetooth Internal Hub Shifting
23:32 Kyoot
24:12 Fairdale Bikes
25:07 Wheels MFG
26:12 Shokz
29:06 Transition
29:33 SQ Labs
33:05 KS Wireless Dropper
34:11 Velocirax
36:11 MRP Suspension
38:48 Prevelo Kid Bikes
40:33 Eagle Bear Bikes
41:50 United Bicycle Institute
42:40 SAGE Titanium
44:42 Capsuled
45:10 Salsa
45:57 Hydrapack
47:27 Better Bolts
48:21 Neuhaus Metalworks
49:27 Gulo Wheels
50:53 Print My Climb
51:30 Tanri
52:14 Digit Bikes
53:42 Elite Wheels
54:10 Onyx
55:17 BERD
56:42 Turner Bikes
1:01:25 Paul Components
1:04:27 JULBO Eyewear
1:06:09 Old Man Mountain
1:09:17 Ministry Cycles
1:10:51 Party Shirt International
1:11:15 Lezyne
1:12:54 Frameworks
1:13:40 Microshift
1:14:36 Ibis
1:15:10 Outbound Lighting
1:18:13 Landyachts
1:19:00 MucOff
1:21:14 Pivot
1:23:32 Yamaha
1:25:29 GasGas
1:26:31 Bowhead
1:28:19 Fazua
1:28:53 Sanitas Cycles
1:29:54 DT Swiss
1:31:36 Final Thoughts
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You're takes on everything are SO much better than GMBN and Pinkbike haha. Thanks for all your hard work and insight.
Oh man, that's high praise. Thank you for your kindness
Those guys are like always on such a hurry.
this is the BEST INTERESTING video from Sea Otter....to the point...interesting common products...TO THE POINT, PERIOD
You do the best trade show recaps. Much more information than the bigger media companies.
YES!!!!! I was hoping you would do some Sea Otter coverage. So much so that I've hesitated to watch any other coverage from the other CZcamsrs I follow. You had the best coverage last year as far as I'm concerned. Looking forward to seeing what I missed.
Best Sea Otter coverage I’ve seen. Always appreciate your insight Steve.
Thanks so much, that means a lot
This is by far the best video on Sea Otter. Every other channel shows the same carbon race rigs.
Thanks. I try to be different and show the things that interest me the most
The best coverage of Sea Otter Classic, no hit and run, great job!!!
Thanks for the tour around Sea Otter Steve, what a great job and overall fantastic video!!!! It was great seeing the different tech and bikes showcased at the festival!!!! These are some of your best work thanks again!!!!
Happy to see you up and about and having enough energy to cope with what looked like a great event. One day at a time and all will be well. 😊
I was at Sea Otter and I still watched all of your video. Very interesting. Good job!
Awesome! Thank you!
Very cool! Thanks for stopping by.
It was great to see your products in person. I think we'll have a chance to collaborate more in the future.
It's Great seeing a LOT of Titanium frames, parts/components 🤘🤘
Nice to see a coverage with smaller brands.
Regrading SQLab - I didn't like their saddles, but the 7OX grips are amazing.
Took me a couple days, but I finally got through the video. Best coverage that I've seen by a long shot. Great job! 👍
I just got a new 2024 cube stereo 160 front carbon frame alloy rear after a serious injury a few years ago bad one ripped muscle off arm bone dislocated shoulder snapped collar bone in 3 places, slipped lower discs in back so can't bend over the bars to much as so painful so got Burgtec high rise 38s there for it and shorter stem 42mm What a difference it's made the bikes great now!
I've been off a bike for 10 years atleast, I wanted back on my bikes as raced DH alot in my time but being off the bike the weight piled on aswell, So went and spalshed out on an emtb while the sale was on got 2k off the bike so happy with that,
This cube is perfect don't care what anyone says, the way I have it set up now is spot on for living with my injurys and with the bosch smart system it's not a heavy bike being carbon front and has a 750w power tube, 24kg but doesn't feel like it when riding it, now i can pull up on the bars and not leave my arm left connected as always popped out the socket! It was so painful! it's something I can throw about more than the specialized levo 2023 I had a len of for a while last year that thing was heavy! My friend has a Rocky mountain emtb they all feel heavy to cube I'm not sure if it's the new stem and high rise bars I have added as just got rid of the carbon bars without even testing them as came on it new! If anything that shouldn't be carbon it's bars! And if following up with old injurys just get rid of them before they get rid of you! I'm never off the bike now so I would say to you personally don't go for a new lighter Emtb with the smaller battery yeah you can get a range extender but if your needing to buy that then you should have bought the 750w or 900w! 750w is the lowest I would go for an ebike and must have 85 to 90nm of torque! Especially if your somewhat a heavier rider! Your batter will die alot faster aswell! Somehow I think you would regret getting a light weight emtb just now! Unless you are jsut hitting the trails for an hour or 2 that's you then done I'd really think about it
Yooo this is the best coverage of sea otter I've come across....I use to go to these shows when I lived in cali, living in japan now and cant make it. Great review
You did the best coverage of Sea Otter.
Thank you, that means a lot
Excellent work!!
Congrats on the Stanton Sedona. I’m looking forward to your review. I like that it’s steel with short chainstay and a long dropper. It should be a lot of fun like my Chameleon.
With reference to your carbon vs metal emtb point…. I have ridden both with fun and though I personally own an aluminium e-bike, this was due to the cost and what I could find at the time.
The peace of mind with a metal frame and any worries I may have had with it being used was a factor too.
I know this isn’t an issue so much these days, but it’s one more thing I’m not needing to stress over.
Any perceived cost savings helped me to change any parts I didn’t like.
The geometry and fit was more important to me than saving a few pounds in weight.
As a Chunky Monkey rider @250lbs I like to ride a metal frame as any stiffness that could effect frame compliance is less of an issue at my size 👍
Great job, and I'm happy to see your channel. It was interesting to see some of the less exhibited, more interesting aspects of the show. I was also surprised to see what appears to be much less traffic than pre-COVID which was the last time I visited SO.
Wow! Great Coverage, So much Cool stuff!
The best Sea Otter coverage video ever on YT. Appreciate the effort in making this video. Superb. I love Better Bolts. Been buying from them for the past 6 builds. Amazing products. Never disappoints.
Nice coverage. Thank you. Also think that ‘Paul’ brakes are excellent.
I love your videos! You are a master at breaking things down and explaining the technology involved. Thanks for your great work!
Thank you so much, I love doing it.
great video thanks
Great coverage! I've never been to one of the big bike shows, but love seeing all the stuff. I'm kind of excited about those Muc Off valves, as i've preferred the availability of schrader valve filling but didn't want to risk trying to drill mu rim to fit a schrader valve. Also, those patch plugs should wprk just fine, they'be been standard use for cars for over a decade.
Great coverage.
Like the coverage ! I’m going with a carbon e-bike. Aesthetically they look better riding characteristics have less flex and a quite drive train. IMO.
Great video and nice to see you doing a little riding again.
I'm surprised that you don't have a cargo bike already, I've found one to be an essential dad tool (my kids are 4 and 7). I ride my kids to school and everywhere else on bikes whenever possible. I'm also a fan of the Mac-Ride, but resort to the cargo bike when I need to carry two kids or kids and their stuff. I'm glad that you got to try one!
Unfortunately I can't attend Sea Otter Classic. However, having Big Brain Party there sharing highlights is the next best thing to being there.👍🚵
Yeah buddy. Greetings from the UK 👍🏼🍻🇬🇧
Great video. Makes me want to go to Sea Otter Classic next year!
I love my Benno Boost cargo bike. Hauls my two kids to the park or runs to Chik-fil-A.
Love it
Mmmm stanton. I love my ripmo but every time I get on the slackline I got back in 2019 i'm absolutely certain it's my favourite bike. So good to see you've done a colab with them. I'm not one for chasing new stuff when I have something that works well for me but I'd defo look at that frame first if it were available and I trashed the slackline.
That dt swiss hub is going to be a game changer!
Bro good stuff thank u 4 bringing sea otter into our homes 🙌
Great look at some new products. The Turners and the Ministry full suspension looked fantastic and of course the Stanton Sedona has caught my attention. Thanks for such a long video and in depth look at new tech.
AWESOE CONTENT! 😎👍💯
Loving my 5dev stuff. Thanks for turning me on to them!
Great video Steve! I was unable to attend this year, so I've watched a lot of SO videos and by far BBP's content is the most informative. The content you put out is by far the gold standard.
Thank you so much.
I visit Copenhagen, Denmark a lot, and cargo bikes rule!😊
Great explanation of i9's Solix hubs
Super Cool. 🙏🏽😎
I love my SQ Labs inner bar ends.
Great info , so let’s hear more about your music video .
It's really cool that some mountain bike frame manufacturers are using
7075 T6 aluminum for frames; even if it's only for lugs🤘🤘
What an outstanding video! The organizers should hire you to do this kind of coverage.
Oh man, that would be a dream come true
Big brain, got those same shades dude 🤙🏻 good content, and sick Stanton. Toyota man myself.
Ahh, yiss. Nerdcore. After the Dodd left GMBNTech i missed nerding out on bike tech. Thank you so much.
It's a movie!
Intrigued by the Sedona. Looking forward to a review and full specs on the frame.
I have the bullitt cargo bike and it replaced my car for 2 years in LA
I have the cam zink cranks on my ripmo. They’re sturdy!
I'm not planning to buy an ebike, but that Yamaha you showed caught my attention with the split frame. And you're right, it is neat to have outside companies come into the market and shake things up with designs in a way no one had thought up before. Thanks for the video (I gave it a thumbs up!). I really enjoyed the content and seeing 'other' vendors than the usual ones. Btw, was Alchemy bikes there?
I Didn't see alchemy this year.
Good video, you're a good man. Interested in your views on panniers, will we see a resurgance of the Karrimor Iberian panniers. I wonder many regards Rob
I’d love a video explaining suspension components and what they do! Maybe MRP could sponsor the video!
What amazed me was the WTB comfort saddle, the Ergon, and SQ lab Think it's an s3 all pretty much useless on long distance but the 17 buck German Medics saddle with the memory foam it's a nice memory foam aswell that works all in a 17 pound saddle! Not bad looking either but for bigger set guys at 270lbs plus this is the saddle for you! I have an amount of expensive saddles I'll need to put up online I'm absolutely shocked at how nice thisn17 pound saddle is!
Fantastic job on the video, it really is encouraging to see so much innovation going on.
A bit off topic but does anyone have any thoughts on who (if anyone) will pick up Kona and what the eventual outcome will be?
Awesome stuff thanks 💯
Aluminum Trek Rail 5. I prefer cheaper aluminum moded to my liking. I like the higher rise Surly bars you talked me into awhile back.
SQ Lab grips and bar took away all my wrist and palm pain in 1/2 hr ride, they are amazing! Got them on for a year now and never looked back, i ride 6 days a week.
Which backsweep did you go with?
@@BigBrainParty 12 degrees
Great informative video!😎👍
Your attention to details is awesome!🤗
I still hope for you to find a solution for your medical condition🤧, so you can come back and "shred the corner" 😎.
By the way what do think about the Box Prime 9 Nine Speed Drive Train?🤔
Please keep up the good work!👍
Best regards,
David😎
Please put that classified hub on your spot that would be rad... Thnx
How large of a bottle can fit in the downtube mount of the Sedona? Can a 26-28oz bottle(think Elite steel) fit?
22:27 I've always wondered about something like that for years. Started thinking about it just looking at my mother old Schwinn 3 speed (the gears was in the hub) to do away with the front multi ring crank, instead of having a crank with 3 rings, incorporate it into the rear hub on top of the cassette.
1:15:51 oh no, every time i hear of any kind of rubberized coating on any kind of product i think of all the old products that have the rubberized coating that turn into a sticky mess after a few years. I want a light with a user replaceable battery, anything that doesn't have a replaceable battery is just extra E-Waste waiting to happen.
Outbound has done an incredible job with their rubberized coatings. Ive had s couple of their lights for 3 years with zero issues.
I bought a new WTB comfort saddle for my new emtb and man it's so uncomfortable, It's solid!
That bike is nice…
Are 5Devs new aluminum stems 7075 or 7000 series aluminum?
Onyx hubs are gift from the gods of silence . TSB 3D printed Ti frames look cool .
Wow, I know Landyachtz from the downhill longboarding scene back when I was really into that. Never knew they made bikes.
I think bike manufacturing is a new thing for them. same.company as the longboards.
My dual piston Tektro hydraulic brakes stop great, but pads wear unevenly. Is there a brand or type caliper that gives more even pad wear? BTW my Trek Rail 5 has 5900 miles and just replaced original pads...very uneven wear.
perhaps you have a low end tektro, or one of your pistons is dirty and not fully retracting or sliding like it should.
When will your Stanton be available to order. I think that's right in my wheelhouse.
Not quite sure, I'm hoping Dan can answer that.
Oooh, sneakpeak at the Stanton Sedona, and it's on the website as well. Looking forward to more info on it and see where it lands between the Sherpa and Switch9er
It kind of lands next to those two, not really in between. The sherpa is actually slacker than the sedona by 0.5*
@@BigBrainParty For my next frame I'm looking for a XL Sherpa with a lower seat tube. I'm like you, tall torso short legs (but with Dutch genes). Might have to do a bike consult with you one day.
@@BigBrainParty The radavist article on the Sedona said it has a 66° hta, but wasn't clear if that was at sag or unsagged number. I assumed sagged as the Sherpa is listed as sagged.
Unsagged
Thank you.
Is that bike at the KS booth not a GT Grade?
It might be, i don't know my gravel bikes. I feel like this one was a prototype.
How did you NOT talk about the Carbon Mags in the Elite Wheels booth???? Missed opportunity for sure. ☹️
They're not intended for aggressive trail use. They're more of a gravel/light xc wheel, and i don't feel like theyre lighter than the trail gnar wheels. Im betting they ride pretty stiff too.
I don't like steering-mounted hardware (racks, bottles, bags, etc.) for the same reason why cargo bikes feel so good:
Cargo bikes steering doesn't swing around the cargo with it while front racks and the like do, which negatively affects steering and wheel flop.
Some bikes have front racks that attach to the frame, and I think those were a better design decision.
I havent felt that effect on my trips, but thats a really interesting point.
UBI Class of 95 mechanics and frame building w/ Gary Halfrich.
what do you think of Giulo spokes compared to Bird spokes?
Ill go into more detail on patreon, but o fons the berds slightly more flexy and forgiving. The gulos tend to hold up a little better in corners, the berds tend to absorb a bit more vibration. Both are extremely light.
My wife and I unfortunately primarily ride our e-bikes, whether it be from lack of time, fitness levels or injuries causing lack of fitness. I would love to be able to ride my normal bike at the same level or duration as my e-bike. The lightweight flickability of a non e-bike is just so much fun. The weight penalty of full power e-bike, for me is a blessing and a curse. On one side you have that super planted feeling due to the weight, and on the other side you are trying to throw around a 50+ pound bike. It is physically demanding and at the end of the ride you are tired. Obviously in a different manner than if you rode a normal bike. But at the same time if you choose you can really tax your cardio just the same as a normal bike. Do I wish my e-bike was carbon instead of aluminum, that is a tough one. For the cost difference it is not worth it. Am I going to notice a Half pound difference probably not. The difference between a full power and sl e-bike is pretty significant. 90nm motor vs a 60nm motor. 50+lb vs 35-38lb bike. For myself it is very rare that I use turbo or full power mode on the bike, unless I am just feeling lazy at that moment and switch into that mode. For the most part I am in eco or trail mode. For myself, I feel that there would be and advantage to own sl e-bike over a full power e-bike. With not using the full power of the 90nm motor, having 50-60nm of assist I think would be more than sufficient, also the losing 10 or more pounds off the bike would be a huge gain. The gap between an assisted ride and normal ride would also not be as dramatic. Just my two cents. Now if they would drop the price down so I could afford one.
Wonder how the strength and durability is of these 3d printed parts are. I’d rather have a little heavier hubs that last rather then save a few grams. The new DT Swiss hubs look awesome and very light.
I think that all comes down to the engineer who designs each part. I dont break many parts, so take this with a grain of salt, but I haven't broken a 3d printed part yet on any of my neuhaus frames.
The Trek EXe is the one to ride!
Ill have to give it a try.
Please insist with your Dr. that you get an MRI for that. It can be genetic. Or, it can be caused from having a good whack on the head. And if you’re like me, riding motorcycles and mountain bikes my whole life, you’ve probably received a couple good whacks on the head.
How can I get in touch with you, so I can tell you my story? I was at Sea Otter on Saturday, and I looked for you. But, I didn’t see you.
I was there for the whole show but I still missed some stands, awesome to see your perspective on some of these things
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👊👊👊👊👊👊
Tiny, tiny details--you missed the new titanium seatposts on the Turners!
Indeed. I missed some good stuff from Stans and a few others too. There's so much to take in at Sea Otter.
That Stanton is a KNOCKOUT
i agree on the wheels mfg bb's. i run them and they are far, far superior to the sram dub at just under a hundo.
What about Hope technology.
I didnt see their booth