Great video I also have a heatstorm. In the app you can set a set to tap automation so you can click it and set it to 70 or 45. I've been happy with mine in a 20x20 shop that has been spray foamed. But you're right electric heat is great as long as you have good insulation.
Hey Sam, thanks for the 2 months update. Very well done and informative. I recently installed a 7500 watt heater in my 4 car garage/workshop. It works pretty good so far. A bit small but it's what I could afford. I use a Mr. Heater to help which I turn off when painting or staining. Don't want open flames with chemicals in the air. Haven't got my 1st bill yet so I don't know what it's going to cost me. I don't believe you mentioned cost comparisons exactly. Of course it varies by state and unfortunately I'm in the most expensive one, CA. I like the convenience of using an app to control the heater but the one thing that really bugs me is you can't just get the app you have to register then they don't stop sending junk. I want to control it like Bluetooth but I haven't seen any that work that way. I like your usage of Waze outlets. I have one for my swamp cooler and since I'm already in with them I'm going to get another one for my 2 fans that blow up into the ceiling. Thanks for the idea.
Hi Sam. Great videos! Watched you whole workshop videos up until the one you published yesterday, Good stuff! I too have electric in my Garage Majal which is mostly my office and a man cave but getting ready to get rid of a Harley that quite honestly I just don't drive being I live in Chicago where drivers are idiots so going to put in a Shapeoko and possibly a laser to compliment my wood shop in the basement. That said in the detached "cottage" aka Garage Majal I use a combo of heating and cooling. For cooling and heating down to a certain external temp I have a Mitsubishi Mini Split 2 ton unit, a Eco 25+ electric garage heater which quote honestly can get loud but I also keep a Mr. Heater Buddy Propane so that if I am on conference call I crank up the propane and let it and the Mitsubishi handle stuff so I guess you could say I took the hybrid approach. Keep up the good work my friend!
Awesome video Sam! I am looking to build an office in my workshop and will be researching heat/AC for that space. This review helps a lot in my decision-making! I have lots of SMART LIFE devices! They work great and the app is simple enough to use. You could get SMART LIFE plugs and program the fans to turn on when you turn on the heater.
awesome video, thanks again but mostly good for people in warmer and temperate climates but if you have a really frozen winter think Canada, New Hampshire, North Dakota, or my home state Montana. you have a really hard time heating my shop to comfortable in a decent amount of time with this unit.. our shop is very well insulated its a bit larger then yours its 24x24 in Montana we get around -10f to -30f average for a good few months in winter.. if my tools and shop get that cold it damages them... so I use this unit to keep it just above freezing but if I want to actually work in the shop then I. have to fire up a wood burner or wear a snowsuit
Sam, for the long term, you should look at a "mini split" HVAC system. They are great and relatively simple to install. Cost is Approx. $1,000 to $15,000. They are No duct work systems.
I'd have a hard time justifying that one to the family. LOL At least until there was central air in the house! Hahaha "Waiter, I'll take three mini splits!"
Awesome! I've enjoyed this heater ever since getting it. I'm moving to a new workshop soon but won't be able to take it -- the new workshop will be solar powered. Bummer, it's been a great heater!
@@Samcraftcom what are you using to heat your new space? We are releasing a gas heater soon, do you have a natural gas or propane source nearby your new shop?
Come on man! Inquiring minds wanna know!!! How much of an increase to your power bill did this cost???? I know I’m the fourth person to Ask…..no comment or what?!
Hi Sam, so I just purchased this unit, I love the profile and it fits into my shop perfectly. I am running into a very common issue with it in where it will short cycle. Reading other reviews and seeing other videos this is a common issue with these units. Do you see this problem with yours? If you have how did you end up solving it? It took about an hour to raise my 12 x 20ft shop 10degF with an outdoor temperature of 45 degF. For a 6000watt unit in an insulated garage that it would do better then this.
@Samcraft the unit would run for about a minute to 90 secs then it hits about 2 degrees over the set temp and starts its cool down cycle. Then when the temp drops to the set temp and lower it starts its warm up cycle. It's about a 45sec to 1 min warm up and about a 30sec cool down cycle.
@@danieldewitte8289 Ahh, yes mine will do that. I think it's because the temp sensor is internal where it's hottest and not external. I've always wanted to crack open the case to find and relocate the sensor to the outside of the unit. Until then, I'll just set the temp 10 degrees higher than what I want. :)
Instead of larger degree increments I'd prefer some presets so you could program your most common setting. Just like radio stations on your car stereo.
Thank you for this video. I am struggling with a heating solution in my shop. So the information you shared helped me a lot. Something else, you mentioned your wife’s soap making studio a couple of times. My wife makes soap as well. Does your wife have a CZcams channel? Thanks!
Glad it was helpful, Jim! We do have another CZcams channel, Green Acre Homestead, it's our homesteading/DIY/gardening/everything channel. :) We just recently finished converting a storage shed into her soap making studio. Might be of interest? But don't blame me if it gets you into doing the same project on your end! Hahaha czcams.com/users/greenacrehomestead
@@Samcraftcom oh you don’t even know brother. She had the garage converted over to a certified kitchen. She and her best friend have been making soap and lotions for about 3 years by now.
Great information Sam! I have purchased and installed the same unit in my two-car garage/shop. I agree that it needs an external thermostat as it cycles way too much (installed on 8' 6" ceiling). Have you addressed this issue by installing an external tstat? If so, could you share details on what you installed and details on that installation? Does it maintain the wifi capabilities? John in Kansas
I never got around to trying to move the thermostat, I just set it much higher than what I really wanted and used a wall mounted fan to move the heat around. It's been a great heater, but I'm moving workshops soon and cannot take it with me -- next shop will be solar powered. :)
Good vid Sam. I have a couple questions. 1. What is the size of your shop? 2. How much of an increase did you see in your electric bill after you started using this unit for your heat source?
The overall size of the building is 16x24. I have an 8x8 space carved out of it for an office that this heater doesn't have to heat up. As for actual power increases on bills, that would be depending on how often you run this and what your cost is per Kw from your power utility. My numbers wouldn't benefit you unless all variables lined up. I've never added it up on my end. It's so much more convenient than propane or wood heat for me to worry on cost for the amount I use it.
H I I from east coast nc. Liked you video and great info, I am looking into a new way to heat my shop not sure it is big enough? But just add more units....right. did it make any major chang in your power use. Love to stop some day just to say hi.
It's a standard dryer type cord that you can pickup at your home improvement store but you need to be sure you get one that will handle the Amps load of the heater and if you don't already have the 240v outlet, you'll need one of those also These are usually hardwired. Mine is 7500 watts so I had to run 8 AWG. You can't get that in an appliance cord and make sure you have a large enough breaker.
This workshop (I have since moved into a new workshop I built and showed on CZcams) is a 16x16 with ceilings from 8-12 ft tall. This heater had zero problems heating the space as hot as I wanted and keeping it there. I took it down and brought it to my new place, but haven't installed it yet. My new workshop is 100% solar powered and I'll have to run some hardwires to it for this heater to get installed again.
It sounds like there might be circulation issues. Will this heat my attached, insulated 700 sq ft garage? I feel like it might just not have the airflow to get it done.
Sam, I just got the same heater and can’t get the WiFi to hook up to the app. I have tried to get help from heatstorm and no reply back for 9 days now, absolutely no help from tech-support. I have factory reset the unit several times and still no connection. Any advise on getting the app connected would be a great help..
If you have alexa you can link the smart life app and then just ask alexa to turn the heat to what ever temp you want. Much better then manually changing the temp one degree at a time.
How cold have you used this in? I cannot find anyone reviewing this further north than you, but I'm in upper midwest. Come january we'll have weeks of -10 to -40.
Where I'm at (NC) it only gets down into the teens at lowest. In that range (with my insulated shop), it will keep it as warm as I want with the thermostat. It will also heat up my shop in about 15 mins from 40 (where I usually leave it overnight to keep glues and finishes from freezing) to 70. This workshop is 16x24 with ceilings from 8-12 feet tall.
I don't know the square footage recommendations for the heater. It's rated at 20,000 BTU output on high. It would depend on the space's insulation and if you plan to run it all the time at a set temp vs. on-demand. It does fine in my workshop building which is 16x24 with 8-12 foot ceilings. But the workshop is also insulated.
I'd say it added about $1-2 per day depending on how cold it is and what temps I want in the shop, etc. Kind of hard to calculate really. But it's well worth it for the lack of having to maintain or service the system anymore (tank swaps, firewood chopping, etc).
@@mshaw290808mi Well the recent deepfreeze weather will be a good test for worst case Scenario . I use electric to maintain my shop above freezing when Im not there and propane to kick tha temp up quick when I first go in tha shop. Mine typically runs less than $100 total for a cold month. My Shop is a12x16 saltbox style 12 ft height. I do like tha Wifi feature on yours but 6kw is a lot more than I need though. Good Info Thanks. Yall stay warm.
It's difficult to give that as a concrete figure since it varies with the weather and would also vary with temps and costs of electricity in your area. I'd estimate it costs from $1-2 per day for us.
It will get as hot as you set the temperature to make it! I'm able to heat up my shop in about 10 minutes with this heater and a box fan to help circulate the heat. My shop is 16x24 with 12' tall ceilings. I continue to be extremely happy with heater!
The building is 16x24 with a ceiling height from 8' to 11'6". My home office is carved out in one corner and is 8x8 so that lessens the space of my shop for heating.
On the wiring diagram on page 7 here (images.thdstatic.com/catalog/pdfImages/b7/b7493cbe-6c18-47be-9d0f-1e5d3433b060.pdf), it shows the neutral just capped/unconnected. Did you attach it to that terminal because your plug has a neutral? I'm wondering if I can just run a 10/2 line out to my garage for this if I don't actually need to connect that neutral. Also, what breaker did you use? I believe they recommend 35A, did you go that high?
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Damn it Sam, you sold me on the 1500 watt one for my back porch.....lol
Switch to Celsius mode and you will save about 50% of your adjusting on the app. Excellent video thanks
Good call!
Great video I also have a heatstorm. In the app you can set a set to tap automation so you can click it and set it to 70 or 45. I've been happy with mine in a 20x20 shop that has been spray foamed. But you're right electric heat is great as long as you have good insulation.
Thanks for the tip!
Hey Sam, thanks for the 2 months update. Very well done and informative.
I recently installed a 7500 watt heater in my 4 car garage/workshop. It works pretty good so far. A bit small but it's what I could afford. I use a Mr. Heater to help which I turn off when painting or staining. Don't want open flames with chemicals in the air. Haven't got my 1st bill yet so I don't know what it's going to cost me. I don't believe you mentioned cost comparisons exactly. Of course it varies by state and unfortunately I'm in the most expensive one, CA.
I like the convenience of using an app to control the heater but the one thing that really bugs me is you can't just get the app you have to register then they don't stop sending junk. I want to control it like Bluetooth but I haven't seen any that work that way. I like your usage of Waze outlets. I have one for my swamp cooler and since I'm already in with them I'm going to get another one for my 2 fans that blow up into the ceiling. Thanks for the idea.
Glad to be of any help! :)
Thanks for the review. I just placed an order for one.
Wow, I'd only seen the smaller, room heaters from heat storm. Didn't even know they did a garage option!
I'm not sure if it's new or not... I was searching for WiFi heaters and theirs was one of the only ones. I'm really pleased with it!
Hi Sam. Great videos! Watched you whole workshop videos up until the one you published yesterday, Good stuff! I too have electric in my Garage Majal which is mostly my office and a man cave but getting ready to get rid of a Harley that quite honestly I just don't drive being I live in Chicago where drivers are idiots so going to put in a Shapeoko and possibly a laser to compliment my wood shop in the basement. That said in the detached "cottage" aka Garage Majal I use a combo of heating and cooling. For cooling and heating down to a certain external temp I have a Mitsubishi Mini Split 2 ton unit, a Eco 25+ electric garage heater which quote honestly can get loud but I also keep a Mr. Heater Buddy Propane so that if I am on conference call I crank up the propane and let it and the Mitsubishi handle stuff so I guess you could say I took the hybrid approach. Keep up the good work my friend!
Awesome info, thanks for sharing!!
Awesome video Sam! I am looking to build an office in my workshop and will be researching heat/AC for that space. This review helps a lot in my decision-making! I have lots of SMART LIFE devices! They work great and the app is simple enough to use. You could get SMART LIFE plugs and program the fans to turn on when you turn on the heater.
awesome video, thanks again but mostly good for people in warmer and temperate climates but if you have a really frozen winter think Canada, New Hampshire, North Dakota, or my home state Montana. you have a really hard time heating my shop to comfortable in a decent amount of time with this unit..
our shop is very well insulated its a bit larger then yours its 24x24 in Montana we get around -10f to -30f average for a good few months in winter.. if my tools and shop get that cold it damages them... so I use this unit to keep it just above freezing but if I want to actually work in the shop then I. have to fire up a wood burner or wear a snowsuit
Thanks for the excelent review, how much did your electric bill go up?
Sam, for the long term, you should look at a "mini split" HVAC system.
They are great and relatively simple to install. Cost is Approx. $1,000 to $15,000.
They are No duct work systems.
I'd have a hard time justifying that one to the family. LOL At least until there was central air in the house! Hahaha "Waiter, I'll take three mini splits!"
@@Samcraftcom $800 per room.
Thanks for the review. I'm thinking of using one of these for my basement. I want something wifi-enabled and this might fit the bill.
I'm still using it to this day, many years later! Zero issues, zero complaints. :)
What is the square footage of your shop?
Also, you see a large bump in your electrical bill?
I have their outdoor heater with tripod stand. Love their product but I think yours is my next step. 220 is far more efficient than 110. Great review.
Awesome! I've enjoyed this heater ever since getting it. I'm moving to a new workshop soon but won't be able to take it -- the new workshop will be solar powered. Bummer, it's been a great heater!
@@Samcraftcom we are moving to South Carolina in the next 5-6 months so I’m not even sure what Or if I’m going to need a heater for my new shop.
@@Samcraftcom what are you using to heat your new space? We are releasing a gas heater soon, do you have a natural gas or propane source nearby your new shop?
How much extra utility bill? Also how long does it need to run to warm it up enough to work comfortably?
You did a great job on the video brother. Keep up the good work
Great video !!! "im sold"...Big Thumbs Up !!!!
I like the Ferris Bueller ending lol
This heater looks great. However, I have read a good deal of bad reviews from Amazon Customers. Has anyone experienced problems with this heater?
How much of a increase in your electric bill have you seen? Love the video!
SOmething I would like to know as well .
Come on man! Inquiring minds wanna know!!! How much of an increase to your power bill did this cost???? I know I’m the fourth person to
Ask…..no comment or what?!
Thats the only answer im waiting before buying this. I need this to run the entire winter for my reptile room
How much did it increase your billl?
They come with an external thermometer now
Hi Sam, so I just purchased this unit, I love the profile and it fits into my shop perfectly. I am running into a very common issue with it in where it will short cycle. Reading other reviews and seeing other videos this is a common issue with these units. Do you see this problem with yours? If you have how did you end up solving it? It took about an hour to raise my 12 x 20ft shop 10degF with an outdoor temperature of 45 degF. For a 6000watt unit in an insulated garage that it would do better then this.
What do you mean by short cycling? I've since moved shops, but took this one with me and have it installed in my new workshop now. :)
@Samcraft the unit would run for about a minute to 90 secs then it hits about 2 degrees over the set temp and starts its cool down cycle. Then when the temp drops to the set temp and lower it starts its warm up cycle. It's about a 45sec to 1 min warm up and about a 30sec cool down cycle.
@@danieldewitte8289 Ahh, yes mine will do that. I think it's because the temp sensor is internal where it's hottest and not external. I've always wanted to crack open the case to find and relocate the sensor to the outside of the unit. Until then, I'll just set the temp 10 degrees higher than what I want. :)
Tell us what size your shop is and and how much it costs to run the heater
Do you know if this would warm up a garage when temperatures go to -5F? Or -20C?
North Carolina!!!
Instead of larger degree increments I'd prefer some presets so you could program your most common setting. Just like radio stations on your car stereo.
That's a good idea too!
Thank you for this video. I am struggling with a heating solution in my shop. So the information you shared helped me a lot. Something else, you mentioned your wife’s soap making studio a couple of times. My wife makes soap as well. Does your wife have a CZcams channel? Thanks!
Glad it was helpful, Jim! We do have another CZcams channel, Green Acre Homestead, it's our homesteading/DIY/gardening/everything channel. :) We just recently finished converting a storage shed into her soap making studio. Might be of interest? But don't blame me if it gets you into doing the same project on your end! Hahaha czcams.com/users/greenacrehomestead
@@Samcraftcom oh you don’t even know brother. She had the garage converted over to a certified kitchen. She and her best friend have been making soap and lotions for about 3 years by now.
How much did it raise your electric bill a month
The link on the heater is not working, any chance you posted it wrong? Want to take a look at it..thanks Sam...
can you tell us what the electric bill increase looks like for the two months you owned it
What is the impact on the electric bill?
Great information Sam! I have purchased and installed the same unit in my two-car garage/shop. I agree that it needs an external thermostat as it cycles way too much (installed on 8' 6" ceiling). Have you addressed this issue by installing an external tstat? If so, could you share details on what you installed and details on that installation? Does it maintain the wifi capabilities? John in Kansas
I never got around to trying to move the thermostat, I just set it much higher than what I really wanted and used a wall mounted fan to move the heat around. It's been a great heater, but I'm moving workshops soon and cannot take it with me -- next shop will be solar powered. :)
Good vid Sam. I have a couple questions. 1. What is the size of your shop? 2. How much of an increase did you see in your electric bill after you started using this unit for your heat source?
The overall size of the building is 16x24. I have an 8x8 space carved out of it for an office that this heater doesn't have to heat up. As for actual power increases on bills, that would be depending on how often you run this and what your cost is per Kw from your power utility. My numbers wouldn't benefit you unless all variables lined up. I've never added it up on my end. It's so much more convenient than propane or wood heat for me to worry on cost for the amount I use it.
H I I from east coast nc. Liked you video and great info, I am looking into a new way to heat my shop not sure it is big enough? But just add more units....right. did it make any major chang in your power use. Love to stop some day just to say hi.
what is the price?
Could u send me a link to the cord you used just bought this model thanks
It's a standard dryer type cord that you can pickup at your home improvement store but you need to be sure you get one that will handle the Amps load of the heater and if you don't already have the 240v outlet, you'll need one of those also
These are usually hardwired. Mine is 7500 watts so I had to run 8 AWG. You can't get that in an appliance cord and make sure you have a large enough breaker.
Thinking about buying this heater how big is your shop I'm going to put it in a three car garage I'm in California
This workshop (I have since moved into a new workshop I built and showed on CZcams) is a 16x16 with ceilings from 8-12 ft tall. This heater had zero problems heating the space as hot as I wanted and keeping it there. I took it down and brought it to my new place, but haven't installed it yet. My new workshop is 100% solar powered and I'll have to run some hardwires to it for this heater to get installed again.
your 4-wire configuration does not match up with the instructions. Please explain. I have a 3-wire and just curious.
Very Good Video
I have app can't figure out how to set an am timer. Any help?
It sounds like there might be circulation issues. Will this heat my attached, insulated 700 sq ft garage? I feel like it might just not have the airflow to get it done.
Sam, I just got the same heater and can’t get the WiFi to hook up to the app. I have tried to get help from heatstorm and no reply back for 9 days now, absolutely no help from tech-support. I have factory reset the unit several times and still no connection.
Any advise on getting the app connected would be a great help..
If you have alexa you can link the smart life app and then just ask alexa to turn the heat to what ever temp you want. Much better then manually changing the temp one degree at a time.
Additionally make it a device group so when the heater turns on the fan turns on automatically…
Hi Sam, does the app allow you to add a second Heater? I was planning to purchase two heaters for my garage.
It does. :) We have two HeatStorm heaters and can control them both.
@@Samcraftcom thanks Sam
Do they make one for 240 / 20 amp?
A heat pump would be cheaper to run, but of course more money.
Is this an infrared heater?
How cold have you used this in? I cannot find anyone reviewing this further north than you, but I'm in upper midwest. Come january we'll have weeks of -10 to -40.
Where I'm at (NC) it only gets down into the teens at lowest. In that range (with my insulated shop), it will keep it as warm as I want with the thermostat. It will also heat up my shop in about 15 mins from 40 (where I usually leave it overnight to keep glues and finishes from freezing) to 70. This workshop is 16x24 with ceilings from 8-12 feet tall.
How many square feet would you say it is recommended for have a small two stall loooking to keep things above freezing up thanks
I don't know the square footage recommendations for the heater. It's rated at 20,000 BTU output on high. It would depend on the space's insulation and if you plan to run it all the time at a set temp vs. on-demand. It does fine in my workshop building which is 16x24 with 8-12 foot ceilings. But the workshop is also insulated.
What does it cost to run?
Will you be helping with your brothers addition?
I hadn't heard of one until this comment and asked. :) We're trying to work out a "work day" for us to come up and get it done.
Thanks. How did you find the cost of electric heat?
I'd say it added about $1-2 per day depending on how cold it is and what temps I want in the shop, etc. Kind of hard to calculate really. But it's well worth it for the lack of having to maintain or service the system anymore (tank swaps, firewood chopping, etc).
Will using a 3 wire reduce that power of the heater instead of 4 wire?
No. It's just that a ground wire is added to the wiring pigtail.
How much does it cost to operate the way you use it?
This is the question that I thought would be of the most important one to answer! Ten, twenty or could it go as high as one hundred dollars a month?
@@mshaw290808mi Well the recent deepfreeze weather will be a good test for worst case Scenario . I use electric to maintain my shop above freezing when Im not there and propane to kick tha temp up quick when I first go in tha shop. Mine typically runs less than $100 total for a cold month. My Shop is a12x16 saltbox style 12 ft height. I do like tha Wifi feature on yours but 6kw is a lot more than I need though. Good Info Thanks. Yall stay warm.
It's difficult to give that as a concrete figure since it varies with the weather and would also vary with temps and costs of electricity in your area. I'd estimate it costs from $1-2 per day for us.
So how warm can you make it at its hottest setting?
Easily in the high 80s.
@@Samcraftcom thanks!! room size again please?
@@Samcraftcom thank you, follow up question, is that close to the heater or on the opposite side of your area?
How big is your shops
16 x 16 with 12 foot tall ceiling.
Hi, how warm does the room get when it's 35 degrees outside. How fast does it warm up
It will get as hot as you set the temperature to make it! I'm able to heat up my shop in about 10 minutes with this heater and a box fan to help circulate the heat. My shop is 16x24 with 12' tall ceilings. I continue to be extremely happy with heater!
How Big is your shop?
The building is 16x24 with a ceiling height from 8' to 11'6". My home office is carved out in one corner and is 8x8 so that lessens the space of my shop for heating.
@@Samcraftcom thanks my shop is 30 x 40 with 10' ceiling , hard to heat.
Been using Smart Life for years, no problems other than your data is stored in China
On the wiring diagram on page 7 here (images.thdstatic.com/catalog/pdfImages/b7/b7493cbe-6c18-47be-9d0f-1e5d3433b060.pdf), it shows the neutral just capped/unconnected. Did you attach it to that terminal because your plug has a neutral? I'm wondering if I can just run a 10/2 line out to my garage for this if I don't actually need to connect that neutral. Also, what breaker did you use? I believe they recommend 35A, did you go that high?
Cap the neutral. Mounting like shown in the video essentially connects the Neutral to Ground through the frame of the heater which is not good.