Transhumanism: Will humans evolve to something smarter? | A-Z of ISMs Episode 20 - BBC Ideas
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- What does transhumanism mean? What is the definition of transhumanism? Philosopher Julian Baggini explains the radical vision of transhumanism - where humans become part-machine... and are all the better for it.
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Dear sir, that is quite an eloquent way to say we are irreversibly fucked.
so the only way to move is forward
@Jason Oneil don't get married and you will.
no, it's not
Google;:::: why the future doesn't need us
@@Enochulate88 speak about yourself
"From the moment i understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me..."
Mechanicus Time bois
10000% self hatred
I aspired to the purity and strength of steel....
The machine is immortal
I feel sorry for you
thanks for making the apocalypse seem so nice and friendly
Its not the Apocalypse
We wont all die in some sort of apocalyptic event. We will Simply Become More then we are now.
🤣🤣 exactly what most of us were thinking
@@Jesus_Offical If you have to give up the control and privacy of your very thoughts, then that's an unprecedented level of slavery. In order to become more than what you are now [as you put it] you'll have to give up ownership of you to whatever company that offers this kind of "up"grade. And once you realize what kind of irreversible situation you got yourself into... Actually you probably won't even realize what you got yourself into because they'll remotely make you forget and think about something else. You'll be a digital zombie.
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh........ it disgusted me.
I craved the strength and certainty of steel.... I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine.
Your kind cling to your flesh as if it will not, decay and fail you.
One day the crude biomass you call a temple, will wither; and you will beg my kind to save you...... but I am already saved......... for the machine is inmortal
Praise the omnissiah!
Well, the same rock that can be used to build a house is the same rock that can be used as a weapon. Let’s see what the crazy powerful people will do with transhumanism first, then we will know how much progress it is going to do to humanity. I’m not against necessarily it, but oh boy shit is about to happen that’s for sure.
Both capitalism and the state would need to be eliminated first, otherwise there will absolutely be an underclass of "subhumans". I don't see the world going anarcho-syndicalist anytime soon, so this might get dicey.
Its not here yet. If it were. No elites would age . Theyre moving too fast Biting off more than they can chew . But theyre going to get their willing guinea pigs thats for sure.
@@XephreWolf Exactly. The only things standing in their way are Western ideas of freedom, the traditional family and religion. This is why authoritarianism has been taking over in the West as freedoms are being taken away
We are too greedy and warlike as a species so this will happen and we will still always have haves and have nots that have access to the best .. reminds me of the movie Gattacca
You are american, aren't you?
The problem is when one small group of very rich people decides other group of regular people is less evolved homo sapiens compared to them, and gives themselves a right to make decidions over them and for them🤮
Like it has always been and still is you mean?
Things like this are product of the dumber, human way to think. If we strive to make others be able to agument themselves easily, then we would have a bigger quantity of better minds, and thus we would advance more easily. Only allowing the richest to agument themselves would end Up in a catastrophy (or however the F that Word is written), and with that extra inteligence, the augmented would realize that easily.
If there more evolved then they are probably above that its more of a dumb human capitalist thing
@@Iknowhowbadthisnameis8828
Augmented*
Sorry, had to correct that.
@@INVALIDZEROTheTitSucker69 thx
Correction: "Can't feed itself"? You really mean "WON'T feed itself"
Daniel 2:43
King James Version
43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
Amen. Jesus is at the Door.
« You’re human. And I was human. I am human, still. Hum, but, hum, but it, but I was just referring to myself in the past. Hum, not that I was not human. » Mark Zuckerberg
"In those days men will seek death and will not find it" Rev 9:6
transhumanism will come in different forms. This is only explaining one side of the transhuman movement.
That probably the most polite, british and upbeat way of saying that we’re all fucked…
Sarif was right about one thing. It's in our nature to want to rise above our limits. Think about it. We were cold, so we harnessed fire. We were weak, so we invented tools. Every time we met an obstacle, we used creativity and ingenuity to overcome it. The cycle is inevitable... but will the outcome always be good? I guess that will depend on how we approach it. These past few months, I was challenged many times, but more often than not, didn't I try to keep morality in mind, knowing that my actions didn't have to harm others? Time and time again, didn't I resist the urge to abuse power and resources simply to achieve my goals more swiftly? In the past, we've had to compensate for weaknesses, finding quick solutions that only benefit a few. But what if we never need to feel weak or morally conflicted again? What if the path Sarif wants us to take enables us to hold on to higher values with more stability? One thing is obvious. For the first time in history, we have a chance to steal fire from the gods. To turn away from it now - to stop pursing a future in which technology and biology combine, leading to the promise of a Singularity - would mean to deny the very essence of who we are. No doubt the road to get there will be bumpy, hurting some people along the way. But won't achieving the dream be worth it? We can become the gods we've always been striving to be. We might as well get good at it.
- Deus Ex Human Revolution
It's been a long time since I've heard of that game lol but regardless it's true we as humans have the potential to be anything we want because our hands are built to create. However, We aren't made to overcome everything and we shouldn't boast ourselves to believe this because when it comes to playing God, You break the rules, You break humanity and yourself.
People think they'll be included in the plans of a tiny fraction of the world's population.. That's the part which will always amuse/shock me.
You're not in their plans, never were. This isn't intended for you.
Could you not make the same argument about early universities and use that as a point against education. Seems somewhat short sighted imo
Sounds more like a nightmare
@Katherine We're not gods *yet*
It reminds me of the Tower of Babel-- mankind trying to reach God (or now, godhood) without God.
Jesus Christ is the future folks. Eternal life on a finite world is silly and cannot work. Jesus will come with the the armies of heaven to put an end to the plans of the ungodly. There will be a new heavens and a new earth for the redeemed to dwell on for all eternity. "For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life" (John 3:16). It's decision time folks...
@@55k3v1n yes so true
For me, it echoes what Satan promised Adam and Eve- eternal life, knowledge of everything, the power of God himself. It's the very essence of evil.
There was time when your kind dominated the planet we call it the dark ages
I see some have sipped the Kool-Aid of Indo-European theology and can pass the test, move to the front of the class if you can.
Have trees been GMO'd before? "Transtreeism" so to speak?
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine.
Your kind cling to your flesh, as though it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call the temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you.
But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal...
...even in death I serve the Omnissiah.
I think the vast majority of people are quite happy with the way they are, which is a problem for those who have invested billions into these fields.
So the conditions that will force us to adopt such changes will have to be artificially created by those who seek to profit from it.
Profit? Where we’re going we don’t need profit.
@@monsieur-le-chupacabra Tell me whenever you reach that future free of exploitation, I can wait.
@@JamesBalmforth We’ll both probably be dead by then. And in any case, I didn’t say there’s wouldn’t be exploitation in the transitionary phases.
But how would you know what the majority want or are happy with?
@@johncaze757 I didn't say I know. I expressed an opinion.
Okay so who’s gonna hurry up and do this tech
Mads Zoltan Istvan!
Mads not me
Mads Elon Musk :) Look up Neuralink!!
M oh I hope so dawg. I wanna become and with too.
oo I would love to live with nature instead, wouldn't it be amazing
I looking forward to the next chapter
What a diabolical idea
How terrifying! 😰
Think about it, does a computer exhibit empathy, emotions, love, etc? What a disturbing world transhumanists look forward to. 😳
You're thinking about a toaster, or a machine made for specific tasks, what going full or partial cyber would mean for a human is vastly different than thinking about simple living room computers, it simply can't be compared.. If you feel Empathy, sympathy, love and other emotions... Well, then ofc you would still have those feelings after being altered :)
It's worth to say btw, Transhumanists aren't authoritarian, they view it as individual choices and wouldn't force it upon a unwilling people. praise the Omnissiah!
@@Nordcamp how do you know what effects it will have. Look at the effects social media and mobile phones have already had. I have noticed in my generation (z) a rise in narcisism self obsession and reduced empathy and also false empathy example taking photos at a blm protest for views.
@@Nordcamp lol you're a fool if you believe Transhumanists won't force anybody. Someone eventually is going to come along and do so, you'll see. I see all that, even all Transhumanism as a fallacy I think. Even if it does become reality it will not be anywhere near our lifetimes and only the Super Wealthy will be able to afford it. All this just seems like flat earth stuff to me in the end
AI in its current state right now is what one could think as "very mentally challenged" when compared to a human in a chair.
You all need to look up Alan Turing, quite possibly credited as an innovator to Cybernetics/AI. He belonged to The Ratio Club formed around 1949. Look them up too.
Boy oh boy, can‘t wait to do some shenaniganry with my Sandevistan whilst fighting against a mega corporation, which literally owns the planet in a near dystopian future
😅😅
When a person programs a piece of software remember part of that coder is within that code. If ai is now writing code for us then we truly are redundant and surpassed our biological capabilities.
So be it. Perhaps humans will die so that a greater form of life may continue to operate as us. Our Children. Our Future.
You don't get it. Keep watching the Mockingbird propaganda media.
Funnily enough, there's a program I use called GitHub Copilot. It writes so much of my code for me and it's pretty good. Not as good as a human being, though, so you still have to check over it and fix small bugs and mistakes. It's about 80-90% accurate
This is why we need to Achieve A Sort of Melding of AI And Biology and create A Hybrid
if this is supposed to make us more intelligent then we could ever imagine then how can we possible begin to understand what the consequences are ?
We probably cant we will just have to wait and see
@@Jesus_Offical this is the actual apocalypse, nothing less...
It may be common sense that all of the good things and all of the bad things about people, and the way that we organize ourselves, are simply going to breed patterns as we continue to make history as a species. It may be that we are simply given to a certain irrationality which leads us down paths, some disastrous, again and again.
Thats why our heart space is so powerful. It only takes a handful of people in the right living heart space to change an entire populations.
Tons of research with heart space and group mass meditations changing entire populations! In one day war stopped, ER visits were next to none, car accidents less than 2%, domestic violence and abuse reports next to none and more.
Heart Coherence is REAL and Collective Consciousness.
You are talking like a soviet fascist. The world isnt ending, thats a lie. Humans are not parasites, thats a lie. Why are you listening to dictators lies?
coucou les élèves d’anglais
Transhumanism in a nutshell: "The flesh is weak."
"I just keep moving forward."
I am definitely very much against brain chips. It's not like we don't know what corporatism can do just to achieve power and control. Same with governments.
This is equivocal. Don't be fooled. Transhumanism also encompasses the psychology of a person whose smartphone social media app is an extension of their personality and ego.
The way I understand Transhumanism - and I could be wrong - is: You are reading >any of this at all< because my digital self was conveyed to you via an intelligently designed communication device derived via the efforts of digital expression enhanced humans. I just feel that the tone for this video is off - perhpas closer to PragerU in it's complete denial of "the reality it had to have lived within to promote their ideal of reality as they see it."
- but like I said, I could be wrong.
Now this is something to ponder. Where is our evolution headed?
Whatever traits help us survive and reproduce now, will be a lot more present in the future
Okay let's go !
👍🏻
Singularity for the win
Nice vid
👁️We not meant too be forever i won't be a robot
our weakness would be an EMP
Not a concern in a decentralized system
Not necessarily. Its not going to be all wires and electronics, but more like artificial organs, but to the point where your whole body is made of them
Thanks
What if this is the way of ALL evolution. Next stop, back to the beginning...pure energy.
No evolution is something that has only stopped because everyone can reproduce in modern society. If we returned back to nature, it will continue again
Can’t wait
yoooo wtf amazing vid bro, absolutely awesome.
It's true
Tres qualitatif
If this is scientifically developed correctly it will improve and evolve humans to the point we need to be at rather than to allow our own extinction!!!
Rick Kowalchuk nah it’s a scam to take control
@@weirdguythatlivesacrossyou7924 Scientifically it will happen! The difficulty is to implement it correctly so that everyone will benefit from it rather than a small group of people who may only want to have it for themselves. Ben Goertzel does an excellent job of explaining how this may happen.
We cant play God
@@v3a3k3vak it's what we're best at.
@@v3a3k3vak we have proved many times that we can play god, if you see god as the ultimate good why not mimic it why not recreate it and make a real god
Moist, moisture, moisturizer....and life goes on 😞
I like how all these comments are so smart and I don’t understand shit
People say we shouldn't "play god"
I heavily disagree, we have, and will always play god, our flesh is weak and temporary, machines are always working, imagine a life where you never worry about dying etc, you can be a spectator of the universe till the end of time
Sarif was right about one thing. It's in our nature to want to rise above our limits. Think about it. We were cold, so we harnessed fire. We were weak, so we invented tools. Every time we met an obstacle, we used creativity and ingenuity to overcome it. The cycle is inevitable... but will the outcome always be good? I guess that will depend on how we approach it. These past few months, I was challenged many times, but more often than not, didn't I try to keep morality in mind, knowing that my actions didn't have to harm others? Time and time again, didn't I resist the urge to abuse power and resources simply to achieve my goals more swiftly? In the past, we've had to compensate for weaknesses, finding quick solutions that only benefit a few. But what if we never need to feel weak or morally conflicted again? What if the path Sarif wants us to take enables us to hold on to higher values with more stability? One thing is obvious. For the first time in history, we have a chance to steal fire from the gods. To turn away from it now - to stop pursing a future in which technology and biology combine, leading to the promise of a Singularity - would mean to deny the very essence of who we are. No doubt the road to get there will be bumpy, hurting some people along the way. But won't achieving the dream be worth it? We can become the gods we've always been striving to be. We might as well get good at it.
- Deus Ex Human Revolution
Machines are temporary too but if you want to be a machine for eternity that can be arranged :)
That sounds like an awful way to live.
Lol, i say god actually encourage us to "play god".
Intelligence exist for reason. Its natural to advance beyond current limitation. If its not, we never get pass beyond single cell stage lol.
I find this scary. Life is worth it because of its short-timed side.
Death is part of life and nature.
If we decide to kill our death, there will be nothing left of our humanity.
Aliens have to have something to do with technology and all of this 😭 trying to get rid of humans and take over!
Bonsoir non.
Wsh sa bosse dur
Imagine living in a world where you do not have to age
or a world where you will not be affected by a disease
even think of a world where your cognitive capacities have been augmented
It's a sad sad world.
dystopia
@@atharvsharma3351 enjoy your short disease bound life
The worst possible dystopia that even the best writers of apocalyptic books could not imagine
@@radi8398 imagine having the choice to prolong your life, be immune to disease, and enhance your mind 😭😢
Sounds like dark scary idea
How appropriate to make this Video in a Fallout-art-style. Good night humans😔
I think we need to go backwards, not forwards
Anarcho primitivism
@@irony373 Good idea
We should become apes once again
@@harrisonschneider8333 why?
How are we then going to fulfill our destiny?
Vive la TG1
Ok
You can be do what we want to do
this isn't what transhumanism is, maybe do better research first? we don't want to replace humanity, only improve it.
Yeah i think this video is referring to posthumanism, not transhumanism.
"Improve" yourself. If your beliefs require forced participation by humanity, then you can have a taste of my 5.56
@@neilorourke71 it doesn’t require forced participation tho, lmao. Imagine threatening people online
@@aguyithink4119 You will own nothing. And you will be happy.
@@neilorourke71 A: Why would I not own anything, and b: If I get to be like, a robot or something, I’d be pretty stoked.
Who decides who gets the best features? A parent has a natural urge to protect her/his child. If the child is unbreakable and transhuman then we would also lose our capacity to provide parental love and care. Hence our most important. Resist to transhumanism. It will be the end.
Are we already transhumance? There are some interesting theories how there was a part of our genetic history that may had been modified once ?
Yep we all heard paleo contact hypothesis
the science, and technology for this already exists, and somewhere out there, in another time, another place, the past, or the future.... this is already happening... lol
1:27 so the matrix was actually a prophecy ??? Huhhhh
Yep
The only deceiving spirit that can convince someone that good is bad and bad is good, the same spirit that influences our subconscious mind and then make it reality...
I didnt know my ideas had a name. ^_^ damn its a shitty name
Forgot to mention the Cybermen, This is there origin story 💡
I hope we are right, I long for a full transference.
mme dulac représente
Yes I am transhumanist, always been
You're willingly to throw away your humanity ?
@@raymondanielson8438 Humanity has proved its worthlessness a very long time ago
We can't live in peace with each other by our pathetic greedy nature
We must change because it's extremely necessary for our survival or we all gonna be extinct
@@raymondanielson8438
If it means becoming something more efficient, then yes.
You look around at the world today, but have the audacity to talk about "humanity"? People as a whole are disgusting, get with the program and become something better. "Hope" doesn't amount to substance.
Also, minigun arms.
C'est... effrayant. Très effrayant
Je suis sans voix. Je ne veux pas vivre dans un monde pareil
I'm sure people during the 18th and 19th century were saying this about industrialization. But we know only a few humans benefited from industrialization.
I am also sure many people thought Romanization and then Christianization was going to benefit most if not all humans. But we know that was not the case.
We have all benefited from industrialization
@@edgymurphy570 nope
@@CloroxBleach-dy9jw Go live with the Amish then
@@CloroxBleach-dy9jw yes we did. It’s the industrialization that gave you your computer/iPhone
@@CloroxBleach-dy9jw that is the stupidest thing I've read in a while
Amazing idea!
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired for the purity of the blessed machines. Your kind clings to your flesh as if it will not *decay* and *fail* you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will *wither* and you will beg my *kind* to help you.
But I was already saved
For the *machine* is *immortal*
Even in death, I serve the *Omnissiah* "
💯💯💯💯💯
Harari & Schwabb
bonjour mme abric
Thank you Skynet. See you on the battlefield.
haHAA, pwnd
Where do I upload my brain?? Hurry in technology!!!
This idea sound good but in the end is to érase humanity as image of God, we are also spirutual being but with this ways we will be become just materia . be careful to follow this ways
Amen. Jesus is at the Door.
Blasphemy
Playing God!! Not trusting his plan and perhaps delaying our right of passage
Why is God letting it happen then
Materialists are making a mockery of the soul….
❤❤❤
this is post humanism
Aquinas spoke of the mythical City on the Hill. Soon that city will be a reality, and we will be crowned its kings. Or better than kings. GODS...
who came here from IITM question like this..!
clapier gang
The issue it not an intelligence upgrade it's a moral and spiritual problem.
dédicace à la terminale 1
Giroud
2:00
Possibly, autism is no disorder, but just the beginning of transhumanism?
Yes I'm autistic and It is
@@akemi_444bruh💀
@@bobyes100 I'm just joking bruh 💀
@@akemi_444 ik
Let's experiment and see where it takes us. We're all gonna die anyways. So let's take this world for a spin. 🌍 🌎 🌏
Maya Vallais-Perrin.....si tu vois ça fait attention....des gens tu veulent du mal. Inverses tes mauvaises actions, et peut-être les dieux seront cléments.
Au fait tu a un flingue pointé sur ta tête au moment où tu lis ça !
GOD WILL NOT ALLOW THIS.
THE BOOK OF REVELATION WILL BE STARTING VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR OWN, PERSONAL SAVIOR BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE....
TIME. IS. EXCEEDINGLY. SHORT ~~
You are human. It is 2021 please wake up. Watch the video again until you realize how fcked up we humans are and we need to evolve using technology. How is "god" connected to this? "God" will not allow this? Please think like a normal human being and put an end to your delusions. When the time comes, majority of the people will give in to transhumanism and live a better life in this deteriorating world while people like you should do too. Your prayers and beliefs can never save you from death. You are a middle aged woman you should already know this. Wake up.
@SUSANOO DUBZ cringe or not, it is reality lol. Remember me after 20 years when half of humanity is half machine 😉
@@hydraworldofficial4359 The book of Revelation already predicted it. The majority of people will take the mark of the beast and go to hell. When you are no longer fully human Jesus's blood cannot save you since Jesus died for humans, not some cyborgs.
When this start to happen just expect to see Revelation happening in front of your eyes.
OH MY GOD WHERE CAN I SIGN UP FOR THE APOCALYPSE CULT?!?!
Amen. Jesus is at the Door.
Maya Vallais-Perrin...si tu vois ça des gens te veulent du mal... inverses tes mauvaises actions et peut-être les dieux seront cléments.
Au fait tu a un fIingue pointé sur ta tête au moment où tu lis ça !
It's funny to see the predictable comments based on fear of change. Sounds like people in the 1800's fearing cars and wanting to keep their horses.
Chips implants
Transhumanists sound like Dr. Breen from Half-life 2
Jesus is the way and truth to eternal life.
Believe in Him and He who sent Him and you will be saved from eternal hellfire.
Evil days are ahead. These are the last and closing days.
@Chairman Pepe It disconnects the holy spirit from God thts how
Amen. Jesus is at the Door.
Robot and technology fun religion boring and outdated
Yes they will - but it won't be trans humanism that leads to it, trans humanism is literally the devolution of humanity and it certainly won't have anything to do with the British BS Corporation who also seems devoted to the devolution of humanity for those with eyes to see.
There is no such thing as devolution
@@almightybunny3320 yes their is
@@unculturedswine4360
No, everything is evolution and evolution has no purpose to make us smarter or stupider, it's all just a nature selection whatever direction our evolution will lead.
@@almightybunny3320 nope
@@unculturedswine4360
Sorry, but the natural sciences do not use the word or concept devolution in any way because devolution does not occur in nature, everything is simply just evolution.
Почему конец человечества? Это конец homo sapiens. Я верю что человек должен править собой. Я верю что человек должен изменять себя, для более приятной, мечтательной и доброй жизни
But this isn't transhumanism. This is post-humanism.
What's the difference? Curious
@@vgmaster9 Transhumanists believe humanity should be able to choose it's future evolution, usually by interfacing with technology. Post-humanists want to surpass and secede from humanity, usually eliminating it or letting it die off on it's own. Think cyborgs and synths vs Skynet or the Borg.
@@lordvalen8133 Transhumanism evolves into post-humanism. It's an evolutionary latter exacerbated by our own will to progress. Personally, I think it's humanities duty to become something that is comparably a god. Without unnecessary strife or suffering.