Made in China! New UK Tesla Model 3 side by side comparisons v US made. Which is better?
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We get our hands on one of the first of the new Made in China Tesla Model 3s and bring it back to our showroom for some in-depth side by side comparisons. What’s new, what’s the quality like, is it better or worse?
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The thicker, metal speaker grilles are probably because lots of people would bump them with their foot when getting out, and the plastic ones cracked easily
Yes they cracked far to easy, front and back!
never had an issue with plastic speaker grills an any of my cars.. ever... when looking at used 19 ram 1500 with the 19 speaker sound system that uses metal covers, they are always permanently kinked or bent from people kicking then looks like. worse than plastic
The position is easy to get kick
I got my model 3 on the 1st of march to i did not know it was a made in china until watching this. mine seems spot on too.
Great comparison video. Looking forward to seeing the evolution of the Y as it envelops the additional features the 3 has taken on over the past few months!
Looking forward to the Model Y from Giga Berlin, I would love to see what you think about it when it gets available.
I second that!
The Germans may build a better tesla
Wonder what he thinks just been released in U.K. :)
Very good shout. The fact I'm making an EV TVR makes me thing build quality.....is comparable 😉
Yup got mine yesterday as well. Only neg really is the frunk panel gap. Heated steering wheel is a lovely addition. Mine LR sits at 72cm tall on aero 18” wheels
Many thanks for this, excellent bit of info.
Excellent comparison. Thank you.
Fremont is still hit and miss, but if China can churn out cars at this quality level consistently then we are onto a winner. The wooden door trim does look better in the flesh. I hated it from the photos and was praying mine got delivered with the old panels. I picked mine up today and it's a non issue, they are fine.
Agreed. If China and the German factory start making the majority of deliveries for Europe, I'd hope to start seeing better quality out of the Fremont factory.
in germany every chinese model 3 is top notch. well unless you consider the lfp batteries, but looks like they pretty much fixed that problem with the most recent software update.
@@TheElectrocar The problem is factory design. Fremont is 60 years old and the factory in China is designed to make these cars. So it is obvious that the new factory will be better but what we actually saw that it isn't in fact it has worse built quality despite we were expecting. I hope that will fix and they will be better than the Fremont cars in the future
@@davout5775 no I am pretty sure it is the employees. Lazy entitled Americans vs strict Chinese factory mangers vs Germany quality
@@xxgunslingerxx Lazy Americans? You understand that there is a culture of workaholism in America? Americans are one of the best workers and the most skilled workers in America. The problem is the speed. Tesla is focused of speed rather than quality because they need to advance fast to reach their goals
Great video never realised there were so many updates ( not all of which I like) but the fullest coverage I’ve seen. A heated steering wheel is undoubtedly the most ridiculously wonderful almost obscene selfish luxury. Folk laugh at it till you’ve had one and someone takes it away. I miss my heated steering wheel more than anything 😂
Always great informative videos!
Thank you brother!
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Good inspection and good video. Thank you.
Thank you for a nice comment 🤝
Another great video Richard. As the owner of same age LR I would agree on everything except size. Our other car is a Mii Electric (and we have usually driven nothing bigger than a Golf) - the M3 is HUGE! But we love it.
Amazing video thanks for sharing.
No worries 🤝
That was fantastic! My long range is arriving in Perth end of June. Same colour as that one.
Hi! Hello from Paris. Thank you very much for this video, it’s very informative. Did you see a significant difference regarding the batteries ?
The changes are usually perceived quality improvements, through component reduction and cost cutting in other areas.
Good video, I am collecting my long range on the 11th, thanks for the ruler tips to check panelling, I love the interior wooden trim, once again, personal opinion, hopefully in the flesh it still looks as good! 🤞
Congratulations, you’re going to love it!
That stuff aside it’s a great video. Well done.
Heated steering wheel should be compulsory here up in the north and Tesla finally implemented it on the 3. 👍
Now all that's missing is air suspension and a HUD for Tesla 3 and Y to be perfect.
The wooden dash trim is just silly and should be the same colour as the rest of the dash. Looking forward to seeing your upgrade.
Changing the speakers could simply be to lower the costs.
Good news, mines the end of the month!
Being OCD, seeing you compare panel gaps really eased my obsession. I always look at the gaps at my car and notice alot of flaws. I was hesitant in buying a Tesla because of the panel gaps but seeing you compare and use a ruler to visualize the gaps really helped me on deciding to purchase a Tesla on the future. Thanks!
No worries. They do make everything else feel archaic
Awesome review, much appreciated. Thank you.
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Excellent comparisons, some of which I wouldn't even thought about. From the shot angle, I couldn't really work out what the undercarriage issue is/was. On the whole... brilliant. I know who I'm going to contact should I buy a Tesla...
Great video.. thanks 👍🏻
Very informative video, thanks for the ruler trick! I can be quite picky, but how picky should one be about the gaps when taking delivery of a new Model 3? What do you reckon?
Is there additional wiring for the hsw? Or is it already there and therefore the hsw can be retro fitted? I’m pretty sure it won’t be the case. Thanks
Another difference if you go for the white interior is that the new door cards now have the black suede cloth on them rather than the white pleather pre update...which is a shame.
I'm an owner of a 2021 MIC Model 3 Performance (I'm currently in China), was just curious what batteries the UK MIC cars have as they have transitioned to CATL for the SR+ and LG for the Performace, hence I do get a lil less range compared to the Fremont Model 3s
Compelling. Well done. When you get a model y that’s worth~ 25- 30 videos. Best!
great presentation and comparison
Wow ,really well done cheers !
Well done, thanks.
Would be interesting if you used that special gauge that measures paint thickness to see if there is a difference between the MIC and MIA models. Thanks
The paint factory in China is the same basics as America. The German factory is the first one where they will be completely revamping the paint system.
@@stephen-boddy Thanks for the information very interesting I look forward for the German cars to be released
@@allenfazer Something else to add further pause for thought is that the new cell tech will be used en masse in the German factory first if everything stays on track. There will be some usage in the US on lower volume vehicles (i.e. the Plaid+ Model S) first, but the 4860 format cell in the high volume 3 and Y will first occur on the newly built production lines in Berlin. The German produced 3's and Y's are beginning to look like the ones to get. The Germans aren't known for sloppy working, so I expect the build quality to be a step up too.
@@stephen-boddy Thanks again for the information very interesting.
@@stephen-boddy If I recall, China's paint factory is more modern at least. The one in Fremont they've been wanting to revamp, but as Elon said in a Sandy Munro interview, "you can't take the wheels off the bus when it's doing 80 mph", or something like that!
superb as always & very informative
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Great comparison video, do not like wood trim particularly addition to doors, hope alcantara replacement can be arranged, many thanks.
To anybody still complaining, these panel alignments on the new Model 3s are no worse than my Ford Mondeo/Fusion.
Has it been in an accident?
@@peterpan6821 lol, never. My Carfax is accident free.
@@jg5001 don't mean it wasn't in a wreck it only means it wasn't reported through insurance
Isn’t a Mondeo much cheaper than a Model 3?
My fusion has some kindof jacked up panel alignments as well. I just ordered a M3LR and I’ll have to wait and see how it turns out.
Had no issue with my Model 3 LR (MIC) bought in November 2021. Good to hear what others think of it.
How's your paint holding up? Besides that all good after 8 months.
Getting my TM3LR MIA tomorrow and look forward to se if it have electrik heatet steering wheel.
I've never seen a vehicle so relentlessly scrutinized.
Standard fud b.s. imo. I'm not an owner of a tesla, I've driven several over the year's and looked over many more at shows and my local tesla service center&showroom. The fit&finish for the $ isn't any different than many other similarly priced segment vehicle's.
Including the BMW 3 series I used to own.
Ehh some of it is well deserved. Model 3 during the 2018 production ramp was rough. I love seeing the progress, the cars coming out of Berlin and Austin should be a huge step above both of these cars. Getting the number of castings down is going to have a massive impact on build quality.
You would hope they put as much effort into the Quality of the build as they do adding all the software updates.
Great in depth video. Having all 3 generations of car side by side, under the same bright lighting, makes it really effective to compare the differences. I have to say though - the wood looks terrible to my eyes, completely different shade (?)
Not my favourite and yes different shades, not really aligned. I don’t see the point.
@@RSEV The plastic undertray is a game changer though, especially in the UK. Haven’t damaged mine but I’m acutely aware of puddles because of knowing about it!
@@Durzel Making me worry about it now, as the one who lives in an area that floods regularly. At least to my knowledge I haven't had anything fall off yet, but I also haven't looked either. People say a lot of water falls out of the car when I drive off my driveway, so I assume that panel is still in place and the bumper is still a giant tub of water. :)
@@VoxelLoop From what I gather the problem tends to be people driving quickly through standing water deep enough to reach the undertray, so that part gets torn.
I don’t think it being submerged in water is a problem as such, otherwise I think we’d hear a lot more about it.
Just don’t drive quickly through deep puddles. That would be my advice :)
@@kylereese4822 doors have adjusters too. Bolts and hinges. I’ll tweak those when I collect my next new one?
I am taking delivery of my M3P in June in Denmark, and that is coming from Fremont. According to the Sales Rep LR and LRP are still coming from Fremont, and the SR+ is now coming from China
Would love to know what your thoughts are on the comparison of the current Long range and the SR+ with the new type of battery. Especially with rumours that the SR+ is receiving a bigger battery and increased range. Bad news for the future value of the LR? I know it has been taken off sale in some markets
5:11 the suspension settings never get checked in Tesla. Cars can have wildly different suspension settings. I.e. I frequent park my stealth performance next to an actual performance and ours sit at the a same level. Then there is an old 2019 SR+ which sits lower than both our cars... i think its just down to chance...
2:12 the door wood is a completely different color than the dash, hope they find a darker dash wood for future versions
I presume that is a trick of the camera as I would expect it to have been mentioned if it was obvious when you look at it?
That’s a lighting artefact
There was a video on someone use wood stain to make it darker, turns out pretty nice
I would be interested in a range and charging speed comparison ...
I was hoping TEsla would add a 2nd seal onto each of the doors. I added my own and it made a world of difference in the quality of the door closing and road noise. Also added padding to the ceiling of the trunk and frunk lids plus the extra seal around the roof window. That should be a quality upgrade for all Teslas.
I'd love to hear more. Where is there room for a second door seal? Can you post a pic of your mod somewhere?
Which ones are getting the LG LFP pouch cells instead of the Panasonic NCA cylinders?
Also I’d like to see more of that right hand side door wood trim because the light in the video makes it look a completely different colour.
It is 💁♂️🤦♂️
Oof.
Now you have mentioned it, that's quite a difference 😦
@@RSEV Different colour?? I noticed it too. Surely that’s not acceptable. Not only is that new door wooden panel strip not necessary ( IMO) but it looks the worse for it because of the terrible colour match. Sometimes Tesla does some really goofy things!! Your alcantara wrap can’t come soon enough!!
Different color and different texture/grain... it's clearly an afterthought, they try to make the interior looks "higher end" but it backfires in my opinion. Should have just kept the original door panel design.
Very useful information. Collecting our China built M3P in a couple of months time so it will be interesting to see how a 2023 car compares.
Get my long range on 13th, WELL excited!!
I get mine on the 22-30 😭 I hope a get a heated steering wheel
@@Mapquestjones I think you will, unless you got the SR+, I heard it's not standard on that
2 days left!!
Love the new Green strip on 🇬🇧 number plate to indicate electric vehicle.
4:07 have you considered that they might have decided the old speakers were too expensive and cheaper ones would get the job done to reduce production costs? But do you think Teslas made in China will make the UK price come down to US prices because of the supply?
Is it possible to compare the wiring for the heated steering wheel to the old one? A lot of people speculate about an ota-update coming for the old cars to enable heated steering wheel.
Wow the wood trim isn’t available in United States on the 2021
Question please and it’s one many people on the forums would like to know.....interior lighting upgrades
Are the courtesy/footwell/boot LEDs the same units/ fitting as on 2020/21 Fremont manufactured Model 3s
Many thanks.
I'm not a fan of the new trim extending into the door panels. It looks a bit too busy, especially for a car with an otherwise very minimalist and simple interior. Nice job on the comparison!
I was under the impression the 2021 model had a heatpump heat exchanger and extra noise insulating windows. Can you confirm?
I am so pleased that someone at last has done a serious comparison between the Chinese and the USA built cars, perhaps now the on-line discrimination about who builds the best will stop!
So, until the "German Engineering" is best comes along...many thanks.
Does the passenger seat have adjustable lumbar support? Heard it may be discontinued. Enjoyed the review.
That was helpful, thanks. Would also be interesting to know if there are under-the-skin changes that affect how it is on the road. Others have noted that the ride seems less harsh on the Chinese cars, for example.
We run a new Long Range MiC. Ride, sound insulation, maybe slight improvements but nothing you’d really notice tbh.
Mic cars charge slower though. See other cideo
If the backlights don't align perfectly with the bootlid (there is a gap) can that be fixed?
Hi Richard
Where do you register to get a China Tesla from. As the link I have for a model 3 does not have the heated steering wheel
Do you have a link for the China model 3 and the Model Y
When does the model y come to UK?
I was looking at my LR vs a SR and noticed the height difference. It just dawn on me why the height difference. It's the battery weight! I think but not sure.
Could you please test drive and show performance differences between the USA / China batteries.
I Love it and would Love to get one...
5:54 - obviously you have the "high performance" edition ;)
Good to see this - we're interested in the perf model and I was concerned about possibly lower riding height and less daily driving comfort...
is the suspension considerably harder/stiffer on perf?
the suspension is the same but due to the bigger wheels, which in turn means less air/rubber to compensate bumps, it feels harder and rougher. The difference between Long Range and Performance is 14cm vs 13cm clearance, so a 1cm difference on the perf.
They sit lower when the battery is full 🤪
new china prodused standard RWD model uses cheaper and more heavy batteries then earlier. Performance uses panasonic lighter ones
Andy, I think ma6 missed your joke hahaha
I mean strictly that is true.. e = mc^2 and all that
I reckon about 2.4 nano grams heavier ;)
@@mikeroberts8412 You must have too much time on your hands to work that out hahahaha
Hi. Does it have a heat pump? And that range is shown on the display?
There is a big difference, the Shanghai Model 3 costs 1/4 what it would cost to make in Fremont
@@nowseemefly Chinese labor is much cheaper than California labor
@@cyclopsvision6370 did you saw the Shanghai factory? is almost all robots... the difference in total wages is close to nothing. Materials make up a way bigger part of the price.
Do you find the U.K. version sits lower than the us? I ordered one whilst in the us, sat in one just to triple check myself and felt like it was a lot lower and sportier.
Excellent video 👍
I am more interested in Utility rather than fit and finish. If it runs well with no maintenance for 3+ years I am good. Much better than legacy that wants to be serviced every year of worst every 3 months
Can you do a comparison between a model 3 panel and paint quality compared to say a 2021 Lexus IS
Alignments reminds me of my old British Leyland Triumph Spite Fire😆😆 TESLA so alignment good 👍 for me
Great video. Thanks - and 🤞🏻for mine! How much charge did the battery have when you collected the car (range or percentage)? I saw another video this week that said the car came with a derisory amount of charge and they had to go from Thorpe Park collection straight to Heathrow supercharger 😱
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Any paint blemishes like dust nibs? That’s a problem on some Fremont cars, and not one easily fixed.
Those panel gaps etc would reeeeally annoy me. I looked at a Peugeot e208 at the weekend and that was flawless.
Good video and good presentation 👍
Thank you!
The black trim looks nicer than the bling chrome but would prefer colour coded door handles.
Great video. Thank you very much!
Really do not like the black trim. I've got a 2019 white/white and much prefer the chrome handles and window surround. Don't like the wood either, especially now there's more of it, that's why I opted for the white interior. Is that still available? Have you got one to compare?
Does American tesla 2020 new facelift have heat pump please ? Or just the Made in China 2021 one have ? Thank you
Thanks for the excellent video. I wonder if you could say more about the heated steering wheel? On/off or variable settings, how warm is it, etc?
It’s on or off.
Pleasantly warm.
@@simonprebble553 Thank you Simon
Any update on air suspension coming for the model 3
Hi Richard, I'd be interested to know if the MIC cars have a rear Mega-Casting like the Model Y.
This is the only thing that matters!
Wasn’t able to strip it apart to find out 💁♂️
Sandy Munroe needs to get his hands on a MIC Model 3 for his tear down. I know he was disappointed to not find the dramatic changes between the Fremont made 2018 and 2021 Model 3s that he was expecting, but I'd take a punt that the Shanghai made Model 3s will incorporate the new production techniques like the rear castings, etc that are standard on the Model Y.
Just a question, is Model 3 LR comes with 82KWH as rest of world or UK car still being delivered with 75KWH batter?
I've been told, that the front doors with the new panels have better noise reduction. I'm not talking about the double windows, but the doors. Is that true - could you have a look?
@rsymons Does the UK model 3 long range come with floor mats? Got one on order but can’t find out if yes/no
Yes. Nothing for the frunk any more though.
You forgot to check tail lights if the turn signal is wider? European were short, China are wide. Also there was some speculation model 3 & Y are getting air suspension in the future.
Great video - thanks. Those new door inserts are awful - just doesn’t look right where it almost lines up with the dashboard.
What's your recomandation, a new model 3 or a second hand model S, for the same money?
How are the Chinese batteries compared to the Panasonic ones?
I am amazed that the Fremont car is better than the Shanghai one. I did not expect that.
Do you still have the problem of water on the roof and trunk lid of the car filling into the trunk when it rains?
That teak look on the dashboard is so 70s. No idea why they think it looks good. Do you sell vinyl to cover it up?
Looks like the gaps have gotten to be consistent enough to be acceptable all the way around. Sure; could be better, but definitely adequate. I say problem solved if at least this standard is maintained.
Yes I agree, totally fine basically for a mass market vehicle.
10:25 I swear I have yet to see a good alignment in any Mercedes GLC like mine...
the fremont new one has it heated steering also