New Tesla Model 3 Highland v previous generations - what's changed? Not all things are better...
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
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The latest Tesla Model 3 Long range "Highland" brings about many improvements and changes, BUT there are a couple of things that are not necessarily better. For me I don't like how the boot (trunk) does not open as far and i now run the risk of banging my head.
Lack of stalks.... will I get used to them?
Are the seats really much better?
What's changed with the interior?
Did you know it now has double washer jets and the screen wash refill is now in a different place?
I find out the above plus all the other little bits and pieces as I try and explore just how much has changed with the latest model 3 compared to previous generations since it arrived in the UK in 2019.
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Recieved the Tesla Model 3 HL today (18in wheels). Previously had the Tesla M3P 21. The ride quality is massively improved, not just larger bumps but the smaller ones as well, it's a HUGE difference.
A big part of that will be the tyres alone. The 18’s have a much bigger and less stiff sidewall which makes a huge difference.
@@peedeegtTyre size and softer rubber would probably account for at least 80% of the difference.
@@peedeegtIt is not the wheel or tire. Coming from 18” M3 21, it feels like a different car. There is a huge difference in NVH.
Is it quieter at highway speed?
@@ap9983 Much, it's very quiet at all speeds. I noticed some slight vibrations at highway/motorway speeds which get a little more pronounced the faster I went (70+) but I'm almost certain it's a wheel balacing thing.
Totally agree with the indicators, I am pretty sure that soon model 3 owners will be known for not using indicator especially agree that taking a roundabout will make it very hard to indicate when taking an exit, since the steeringwheel is turned and the button is hard to find.
It’s probably the first time ever that I would skip on a car because of something as simple as an indicator..
There is retrofits kits coming from a modder company soon. So u can retrofit stalks for some bucks. And since many requested it, the company will bring us the kit soon they said. I am also thinking about retrofiting it then
I’ve got no stalks and absolutely love it. This new M3 is PHENOMENAL ❤ Test drive it - you’ll be absolutely fine I’m sure.
@@Berretotube i just ordered one, only tested the old one
@@Berretotube where are you from? I think states is much more suited than Netherlands with its many roundabouts
@@Berretotube How do you cope with roundabouts?
The boot opening and no indication stalks are the only issue I have with this car. I hope to get one as my next car in two or three years time second hand as I can’t afford one new, so to all the people getting them now, look after it for us second owners
There is a company that gives u a retrofit for stalks coming soon
No stalks absolutely fine, but the boot looks low to me.
I love everything about the new M3 except the headlight shape. I prefer the outgoing ones. Probably on my own here 😄
Not on your own, same here! The back looks better, but I’ve always liked the front end on the model 3/Y
I'm so glad i'm not the only one I just love how it looks more porsche
nope not on your own. I also prefer mine :)
You like fishy lookin duck looking thing? 😂
Agreed, the outgoing headlights made it look upper-scale. New ones kind of make it look like a generic Honda.
Here it comes thick and fast, highland content. Good work 👍👍👍
Great video - much better presentation than some of the others I’ve looked at recently
Thanks for the video. Looking forward to collecting mine this week!
👏 enjoy, I’m sure you will. Fab to drive
Great video thanks you . Appreciate the honesty
Like this. Looking forward to 'Highland' equivalent model Y.
Apparently its codename is Juniper. Highland sounds cooler to me.
Great comparison video, shows the evolution perfectly 👍
Fantastic Richard, thank you!
Just picked up my M3 HL today, my previous was a 2019 M3 SR+ (Fremont built). This is a massive improvement on ride, noise and general comfort. Very happy indeed!
Did you use the previous one as part of the payment?
The M3 2022 LFP is a fantastic car. It has so much that is just right, like the phone just opening it and it switching on. My last car was a new S 75D but I like my M3 more.
Saw an American Highland review and the LED strip didn’t match up between the door and dash but seems this one does.
Really interesting and thorough video Richard. Testing a Highland on Weds. Looking forward to comparing it with my 21 LR.
Front seats I agree that I would like the extendable thigh support as in my previous Mercedes- however I have lifted up the front of the seat and no worries even on a 750 mile round trip.
Great vid, Richard. It will be interesting seeing how you get on with it on long journeys.
First long journey tomorrow which is being filmed of course. Stay tuned.
Got a long day in the car tomorrow (Tuesday) incl going to Chichester and Dartford
My first time watching and Richard hands down does the best reviews! Looking forward to the M3P.
Cheers guys
Thank you for pointing out the changes in head clearance when reaching into the trunk. I assume the actuator is what limits the range of motion.
Thanks for this video. Great content again.
Hi Richard and team. I am so glad you have got the new Model 3 LR. I love your videos and you helped me go for my first EV (Model 3 LR) and overcome early issues of range and charger anxiety (thank you). I'm looking forward to seeing how you get on and whether I should upgrade to the new version of the Model 3. I'm especially interested in how you get on without the stalks on our UK roundabouts and whether the lack of USS is a real issue or not (I love my USS which really help especially when there is no front cam). Thanks again for your very informative videos! All the best for 2024....you never know, I might have a model 3 LR to trade in!!
Im living in norway and got loads of roundabouts around where I live. I recon i used 2-3 hours to get used to the indicators, don`t think this will be a problem
Great content which will really help me to decide on whether to get this coming from a MR LR 2021.
Re stalkless auto-pilot/ cruise control engagement. Biggest concern noted has been lack of engagement with button click. One solution suggested has been the use of SEXY buttons. Will be interested to hear your experience after more use.
Been watching bjorn then😁
@@freddydad1 Yeh Ive been laughing at his videos of that too. Having to fit a button for a basic car function. Well worth paying £50k for the car for.
The king!
Tough school Ricard ! Great Job.
Never thought about seat base length. Great point
Hi Richard, thanks for the fast posting. Interesting point about the steering rack speed, I'd not thought of that. No indicator stalks is likely to slow traffic throughput on roundabouts, indicating the exit is a kindly thing to do. Not having a stalk might actually reduce crashes as entry vehicles will have to wait to see what the oncoming driver is doing. Voice command would help some of us as I've said before and would be easy to implement. I'm one of the guys who has already suggested S3XY buttons and possibly stalks. I do get a bit concerned about adding electronics to one of the CAN buses though.
"a kindly thing to do" maybe for bmw drivers but it's in the highway code to indicate when exiting a roundabout or turning left. Cause an accident and it's careless driving at least.
Wow. Thorough review. Thank you. Enjoy your videos. Earnest honest, very unlike a car salesman.😁
Glad you enjoyed it. Have to say it as it is. Overall though very fab car. Long trip tomorrow will shake it down nicely.
The greatest trick a car salesman ever pulled is making you believe he doesn't exist. 😉
The greatest trick a car salesman ever pulled is making you believe he doesn't exist. 😉
😂@@samwise8735
Nice and through review. I test drove one the other day. This car has a more smoother and quieter ride. However, I felt that the interior fabric on the door made the car feel "cheaper", for lack of better word. I also think leaving out the stalks is a big mistake IMO.
The fabric is only on the RWD. Alcantara on the Long Range.
@@powersurge6878 thank you. I did not not know that.
@@powersurge6878Yep, i did a test drive in the RWD and didn't like the fabric - nice to see the higher models get a much better looking and feeling Alcantara like before.
If love not having stalks. Pain in arse
The s3xy buttons company is working on stalks. Google it.
Thank you once again. 🙏🏽
Your gonna bang your head on that new tailgate 😮
The headrests are angled too far forward, apparently for extra whiplash support in a rear-end collision, but they are acutely uncomfortable for a lot of people as a result. I have removed the head rest and bent the metal rods that hold it in place so that the head rest is more vertical instead of tipped forward (perhaps a 20 degree change in their angle), more like the rear head rests, there are CZcams videos on how to do this properly, makes it far more comfortable and still protective in an accident. Still can't height adjust them though!
Very nice inside the car
Thanks for the vid Richard - loving this HL series!
Re the stalks - it took me 2 seconds to get used to it & like Elon says, the best part is no part.
Removing the stalks is a mistake. It is another special thing that has to be explained to new drivers, like the interior door releases have to be explained to every new passenger (including the emergency releases; the door releases should be normal chrome levers and work electrically if there is power, and mechanically when power is out: no explanations needed). It will make it harder for car rental companies to rent Teslas. Hertz already bombard you with how-to emails when you rent a Tesla. The cost saving argument is bogus, given the cost incurred to add the purely cosmetic ambient lighting.
No it is not a mistake. If you would drive a Tesla car you would know how often we Tesla driver accidentally switch in to the wrong gear "R" instead of "D". Using the screen prevents that error.
@@frankoptis I have a Tesla with stalks and have never set off in the wrong direction. It's best to have a look at the PRND display before pressing the accelerator, in any vehicle, whatever the type of shifter. I could get used to a shifter on the screen, I admit, having driven most types over the years.
Great honest review Richard wonder how many of these changes are transferred to the Model Y Juniper project later this year. ! Very interested to hear your thoughts on that. Thanks Richard and team
awesome video!
I test drove yesterday in Edinburgh. I found the upper right turn button slightly awkward to operate. Lower left turn was no issue.
Perhaps not easy to test, i’m rather interested in the new ultrawide band support and if it makes a difference.
My iphone 13 mini works with my 2020 M3LR 99% of the time on the doors (although annoyingly sometimes will not open the boot until I move down to the front door first), but struggles in my right jeans pocket when I start the car.
Almost always need to take phone out first.
Great, helpful video. As a suggestion, It would be interesting to see how easy it is to park forwards and also backwards without the ultrasound sensors. Thanks
There will be a whole video just with the parking assist in the next few days
Hi Richard, Good review. It will be interesting to see how you get on with the indicator stalks (or lack of) in the coming weeks. For me, at the moment, it would be a deal breaker I'm afraid as I don't want to turn into a BMW driver LOL. The drive being on the screen wouldn't be so bad as you don't tend to use that as much as the stalks. Jim
thanks, enjoyed the video
Taking away the indicator was daft - they should make it an option to add if they worry about costs. Sometimes the minimalism can go too far and I genuinely think this actually impacts the safety of driving this car. Fiddling about with finding the right button while trying to make a turn will likely result in unnecessary accidents. You don't even need to look with a regular indicator, you know where it is at all times and can just swipe it out of reflex. With a button you have to look down to select the correct one + when making tight turns as stated it may be difficult. The change in boot height is also very odd + i have a feeling the new fabric lining on the car might get dirtier more quickly / far more difficult to clean.. looks like a great car nonetheless. Just strange that some of the basics are overlooked.
You don’t sound convinced Richard, removing the indicator stalks is like BMW removing the iDrive, madness…
Not so. Tried it - no issue. Maybe it’s motor bike experience…
@@davebway6371What?
@@davebway6371motorbikes don't have rotating steering wheels......
You would find if the hazard blinkers were already running, when you open the trunk lid the rear blinkers would take over from the "Never have the lights on a moving body part" lid lights.
Thanks for the video. I purchased a 2023 Model Y on December 31st. One reason I purchased the car was to get the stalks before they eliminated them in the upcoming upgrade. After watching the video, I am delighted I moved forward and got a stalked car. Clearly it was an American who engineered this change into the car. Personally I think the stalk delete will hurt sales. We shall see. Thank you again Richard!
😂 stop being stupid yuh don't need a piece of stick to push up or down to turn. Your just so used to it that the change makes you nervous. The buttons are find. If this was a deciding factor then I truly feel bad for u
How about full beams? We use it a lot in the UK?
Honestly, the only thing I don’t think is an improvement is the seating. Test drove one on the weekend and for me, the older seats were far more comfortable because they were squishier. These felt much harder. Other than that, it’s awesome.
Think there is a sunglasses holder or can be used as such in the front central storage box. There is a "shelf" up front, better to feel than to see, but perfect for glasses/sunglasses.
Hi thanks for your videos, l have a 2019 model 3 long range and would be interested in the difference in the batteries in your three car line up. I’m guessing you will compare in a later video. Regards Steve 🚗👀
Thanks, Great video I have to ask How tall are you? you like a longer seat which is fine. As I am a shorter person I never know just how to judge than going to find out personally. Are any member of the tem a shorty ? Thanks
The boot opening height is adjustable. Is yours on max height?
The indicator stalks won't be much of an issue here in the states as people here don't use them with any regularity anyway.
Also, as a BMW driver, I make sure I ALWAYS use my indicators as not to be that guy.
Good overall review. Well done.
Did you calibrate your trunk lid?
5:40. Slack tyre fitting by Tesla there.
The red dot on the tyre wall should be by the valve. (I know it can be balanced out but it's bad practice)
I am driving an Audi S3 and I decided on that weekend that I wanna order the car. It was a spontanous order from me as I am only 28 at the moment. But drove the 2022 Model 3 LR and I loved it. So I will get the new one end of february or early march. I am really excited about it
When you're 68, hopefully you've invested as much in your pension as you are in a depreciating vehicle..
@@rlc2978 LOL - I swapped a 2019 Audi A4 45TFI for a 2023 Tesla RWD.
I spent $26,400 (AUD) over 3 1/2 years & 80,000km on services, tyres, brakes and fuel, the car cost $82,300 and the best I could sell it for was $47,000 after weeks on the market- it was pristine and just had new brakes and tyres fitted.
So far after 1 year and 20,000 km in my model 3 I have spent, $520 on fuel, $0 services (there are no scheduled services - my neighbour has spent $130 on cabin filters in 3 years in total), $0 brakes and tyres (both of which are cheaper and last longer than the A4). It cost me $58,300 after rebates ($61,300 before), It's a nicer car to drive and the insurance is 20% cheaper.
It could pretty much depreciate to $0 and I's still be ahead after 5 years.
Would love if you could say what Cathode Chemistry, Cell Form Factor, and Battery Manufacturer made the battery in the Long Range 👍
would like to see the highland refresh wheels on the older car to see if it increase efficiency
All "Highland" model 3's delivered outside of North America are made in the Shanghai factory and Tesla have confirmed numerous times that they use exactly the same drivetrain carried over from the outgoing model if they are made in that factory.
1 x 3D7 motor at the rear for all cars 194Kw / 340Nm @ 5400rpm + 1 x 3D3 motor at the front for LR 137Kw /219 Nm @ 6380rpm
Same batteries, same inverters, same reduction gear.
How can auto indicate work? Would be very dangerous if you don't take the exit the sat nav thinks you are taking.
For example, I might program my destination in, but make a local stop before getting on the road properly. Normally you just ignore the satnav for a bit, then start following it. Would be chaos if it tried to keep indicating.
Yes, it's better not to indicate at all than indicate you are exiting when you are not. Auto indicate can never work safely.
Must be the same bloke who decided to get rid of the indicator stalks (that would drive me nuts by the way )and the not putting lights in the door handles 😂😂
When editing the video, you probably cut out the part where you measured the width of the rear trunk between the wheels 😀. Could you tell me how wide it is? A fan from the Czech Republic 👍
Have they changed the manual release for the rear doors?
It's under rubber matt into he door bins in the back.
How does the efficiency compare to theHyundai Ioniq 6? Do you test any non-Teslas?
Great video!
Removal of manual operations and a question over seat comfort on a £50K car could be a deal breaker.
Remain to be convinced on this one, there seems to be far too many compromises on this refresh, whereas all the changes on the last refresh were 100% improvements.
Test drove on Saturday, agree with many if your points Richard! Problem i have is the 9% intrest rate, when the Y is 1.8%! Also, new 3 still would not get us out of our S😁 Now, Performance......🤷
The 1.8% on MY is because they want to sell as many as they can before the new one comes. Exactly what happened with the old Model 3 shape before the upgraded was available to order. I wouldn't be surprised if towards the end of the year they will do 0% APR on the MY.
What does the auto forward or reverse selection do when you are parked on a street parking space and the car in front and behind will likely be the same distance away?
I'm hoping it will not make a selection and will make you manually choose.
It does👍
A very exited Richard !- I'm excited too, but the money I lost in depreciation and the price reductions of new cars has impacted badly on used model 3's prices going forward and part exchange values.
Yes it's a better car for sure with or without stalks.
Looking into the next few years of Model 3 prices may have some disappointments to current owners.
Richard has got used to the taycan seats lol.
My way around the stalks are s3xy buttons, where I have a button at the bottom of the wheel for indicating right (EU mainland, for left driving cars left would make more sense). Works perfect on roundabouts.
Enhance auto, company of s3xy buttons, also anounced they will come with stalks, last date they said was March 2024.
Rather than putting lights in the door handle which may have been complicated they could have just put a bright led strip behind it and then you would see the glow which would highlight where the door handles are.
It's definitely something that 3rd party sellers could offer.
But I'm guessing many people never get into the car without any light around be that lights on their drive or street lights.
Exactly this. Let’s be honest, how many people have to get into their car in absolute pitch black where they can’t see the door handles? Can’t say I’ve ever struggled to find them personally. It’s an odd complaint.
Please test the autopilot and auto wipers as I've read there are several issues owners are experiencing since the Christmas update. Nice video but I disagree with your comment that the car is not like an s-class is the corners. I feel its snappy feeling compared to the previous refresh is missing and it feel very boat like without a steering at high speeds. 140+ kph
The 3HL in cherry red and the 19" sport wheels is absolutely stunning
Have you actually been able to try the ventilated seats in warm weather? I took the new one for a teast drive in 39C weather in Australia a few weeks ago, the seats were noisy and pretty innefective- probably the worst ventilated seats I have experienced, sure better than the non ventilated on the old model but I wouldn't pay too much extra if they were optional.
Looks like you could put the front end off the Highland on an older one. I wonder if the new lights just plug in?
Nope, not that simple. Wings are different where they meet the bumper. Different bonnet and different frunk. Not sure there are many part on this one that would fit the old one. Would've been nice
Is your highland from Shanghai? I got mine last December from The Shanghai plant - super happy so far. Gotten used to the indicators, though I still would have preferred stalks!
Yes, it is!
In NZ we have 4 vehicles for our business, 2 of them have the indicators on the left and 2 on the right, as I drive all of them, we have very clean but scratchy windscreens!
Hate the rear screen and no stalks. I don’t want anyone else controlling anything while I’m driving the car.
I want you to test the BYD Seal which I think looks great (and I’ve got a model 3) 😜
Is there a pass through, through the rear seat arm rest in the Hyland?
Nope… split folding rear seat but no ski hatch
I have a ski hatch on my 2010 VW Passat wagon. I've used it when I've had to carry a piece of lumber@@RSEV
I'm guessing just like with the volume wheel (if I want to turn it down as I'm maneuvering in a car park with the wheel upside down, I have to rotate it up instead), with the indicator buttons it will quickly become second nature to press the left button when indicating right if your steering wheel is upside down turning around a roundabout. Probably takes a couple of hours at most to start to sink in.
And yes, those Mercedes (?) indicator stalks and gear stalks cost a fair few dollars each I'm sure. Much cheaper to have integrated haptic feedback buttons on the steering wheel.
My pet peeve would be the Drive/Reverse slider. My brain automatically thinks pull back to go forwards and push forwards to go back, which would be the same as the old gear stalk: push away for reverse, pull towards for drive.
Great video btw, good to see them all lined up for comparison and my almost identical 2019 with the better height boot opening for us beansprouts.
Great review, particularly as I’m interested in updating from M3 AWD LR ‘21 sometime this year. I’d be interested in comments re the fractious relationship between my iPhone key and my current M3. It will connect media, but refuse to start the car. Also, has the wiper system, particularly the Auto setting, been improved? Fumbling with on-screen controls during a rainstorm that the Auto wiper setting is ignoring, is dangerous. Whilst doubtless software related, I wish Tesla would polish their voice command system. I have a middle-English Australian accent, and I find that often I need to affect an American accent to be understood. Finally, I use Dog Mode extensively to protect my two in our summer heat. Has this changed, and if so, is it better or worse?
Your phone should always work as a key to open & start car. If not, look into it!
Wipers still sketchy, so far. Press wiper on stalk (or now wheel) for extra wipe or to bring the wiper menu up and turn off.
Voice commands I actually think are about the best. Make sure you have correct command language set (we now have British English which works well).
Dog mode seems same. Includes can look at interior camera
@@RSEV thanks for the helpful response. Even as a 3+ year Tesla owner, there are still many hidden discoveries to be made, at least for me. For e.g. are you saying that hitting the wiper stalk button when the wipers are already on, brings up a menu? I missed that.
As for the iPhone as a key, I rank it 8/10. Given that that function is 50% Tesla and 50% Apple, I’ll admit that either might be the problem. My iPhone occasionally fails to operate automatically as a door (or boot) key, until I wake up the phone’s display. In the rain, with an armful of shopping, that is irritating. I have recently deleted a duplicate pairing, to see if that was the issue, so I’m now waiting before trying something else. But for your knowledge database, if you are carrying an iPad that has been paired for audio only, as I often do, and the car sees it before it sees the iPhone key, the car (in my experience) may unlock, but then insist on a card-key, to start. The trick is to spot which device it offers to playback from, at the bottom of the screen. If my key problem persists, next I’ll try deleting the iPad.
I am seriously considering S3xy Buttons for wipers and Dog Mode, at least, but if you happen to have the ear of the Tesla development team, I’d like to see the following…
#1. User trainable voice commands. Allow a user to teach a personalised set of voice commands using their own voice, accent, and even language, and including personalised syntax, to trigger a command set. As an example, you could program your car a command - in your own voice - of “Happy Wife”, in order to bring up heater control settings, or maybe A/C fan settings, etc.
#2. Goes hand in glove with #1… An ability to control range settings, once an appropriate dialog has been called up, via the LH scroll wheel. In the example above, “Happy wife” brings up a heater setting dialog box, and then the LH scroll wheel adjusts the temperature up or down. It could be used to control anything that has variable settings, all while keeping eyes on the road and hands on the wheel. Wipers, temperatures, both cabin and seat and fan settings are obvious targets, but remembering that scroll wheels already control seats and external mirrors, all this should be doable.
#3. At the very least, when one touches the temperature setting, or the wiper symbol, the scroll wheel should be capable of making the adjustment desired.
The lack of indicator stalks is enough to put me off a Tesla, but then the lack of a gear select and driver display isn't great either, guess it's a personal choice. Car looks amazing though, always liked the model 3.
The Model 3 never had a driver display. When they first announced the Model 3 I didn't like it then when I started driving it I got used to it so quick that now it's not really a problem. Saying that, I do have a small display that shows the speed and goes in the vent. Discreet but for some would be enough if you really need something there.
There is a gear selector above the rear view mirror.
Shame about the tailgate hight. Should be adjustable on the display like on my Smart #1 😮
You do see the reflection in the windscreen of most of the aluminium part of the light bar if the sun is behind you. Trust me, done over 3000 miles in my Highland. I am a lot less bothered about it than before purchase. Maybe test it out on a sunny day Richard?
Any way to add back turn signal stalks?
The company that made S3XY buttons are working on a stalk add-on
in cz I'm still suprised after many years that people don't indicate on roundabouts... you just have to guess where they are going... round abouts are new here though :) So I wonder how common they are in usa ? Perhaps there will be after market ones ?
Based on your comments on the different dash finishes, it would be interesting to hear what your top or most common accessories and modifications are that you do for customers on the model 3?
On the now older Model 3's and Y's the most popular accessories (we don't do many) were the Alcantara Dashboard and Door Trims and the swivel bracket for the screen.
@powersurge6878 Cool, thanks! Will likely be in the market later this year so useful to know 👍
The removal of the indicator stalk was a deal breaker for me. There are tight roundabouts everywhere here in Norway and these new buttons on the steering wheel are extremely annoying to use. It forces you to look down at the wheel in a critical situation with cars all around you, when your eyes really should be on the road!.. Not good!
It's a stupid cost cutting measure at the expense of usability and safety. I've been using this for months in a new model S already and I absolutely hate it. So much so that that I dropped my plans to buy the new model 3 because of it. I just can't justify spending big money on a car that constantly annoys me. It doesn't feel safe taking your eyes off the road while in the middle of a busy roundabout. Nor does it feel safe NOT using the indicators. I constantly found myself in situations where other drivers became frustrated because I wasn't always able to indicate.
Another problem with these is that you often end up pressing the wrong button, which can cause some dangerous situations. People think you are going to do one thing, but then the opposite happens..
The buttons don't always work either for some reason. I often find that I have to press twice, because it doesn't register the first time. At least in the model S, but it's the same system so I presume it's the same in the model 3.
With a stalk it's pretty evident if you pushed it up or down. That's not the case with these buttons. You have no way of knowing which one you actually pressed, so if you want to make sure, you have to (again) look down at the screen.. It's a really big downgrade to be honest.
Many Norwegian driving schools have gone as far as banning the new model 3 because they say it causes their students to fail their driving test in roundabouts. I can't blame them. I've been driving for 24 years, and I've never had problems indicating correctly in roundabouts before, until now.
I suppose this works great in the US where there are mostly intersections, and the few roundabouts they do have are fairly large, so it's not much of an issue. But in Norway and most of the EU and the rest of the world which mostly uses roundabouts instead of intersections, this is a real pain in the ass to use.
Good to see how the Tesla 3 is evolving, not sure about the power, I've heard various claims is the long range the same power as the current performance? If so I'm looking forward to the performance version of the highland, can there be only one?
Every component of the drivetrain is exactly the same as the old model, same motors, same batteries, same inverters, same reduction gear etc. Confirmed by Tesla a number of times.
I am going to test drive one of the new M3 RWD in next 2 weeks. Tried the older one but suspension too firm and gave me neck ache. Hoping the new one is better. Looks generally a great improvement over the older one and hoping the range is improved even if only by maybe 10%
M3 bmw?
@@DELTACO..UBERDRIVER..STOCKS.. Tesla Model 3
@@Jaw0lf that's better, idk why people use M3 to describe a model 3 when BMW has originally used M series
I'm not sure how you guys can afford to buy these. I have my 22 model 3 which I have lost over £ 24k in depreciation. Just to also add I have not done more than 10k miles per year no damage etc. As much as I used to like this car on top of the poor range in the winter my love and appreciation for this car is vanishing.
Honestly the auto-leavelling of the headlights is HUGE. Ever parked an older Model 3 on a slope? The headlight aim changes drastically and doesnt't change again until you open and shut the driver's door. You're either driving blind, or blinding everyone. :)
On the indicators why not just have the MIC in an always on state. All you have to do is say indicate right/left and it activates it when you go through a roundabout.
I really wish they’d included a factory-fitted swivel display. I just had to remove my third-party swivel adapter from my Model Y and going back to the original fixed screen is a downgrade. It makes a huge difference having it facing the driver a little more. Presume the after market kits will still be available for the Highland/Juniper but it technically needs to be removed before the car can be serviced by Tesla, and removing/re-fitting the original mount is a bit of a stressful process. I realise it’s something to differentiate between the S & the X but there’s also a massive price difference between the two let alone the LHD issue in the UK.
Agree that the stalks are a matter of habit. It is an effort to change, but once the wiring somewhere in the brain is updated we will all be ok. I have had the refresh S for 9 months. When I go back to the Y I keep pressing plastic bits on the steering wheel at each lane change.
The stalks are a deal breaker for me. I live in a country town with many and I do mean many roundabouts. Moving the steering wheel over 180 degrees makes the buttons inaccessible without moving your hands.
BYD Seal for me now. Whatever prompted this change, very silly?
Agree, pointless change and potentially dangerous if you are switching cars on a regular basis.
there is an old saying, if it ain't broke don't fix it
@@andrewreynolds7725 I feel this is the problem with having solely US testing, having just some basic testing in Europe could save them far more money than it costs. A UK school run is a world away from a Californian freeway.
Stalks are removed to save cost, i think they should have placed the indicators on the LHS and RHS of the wheel and added a clickable button. again these capacitive buttons will be cheaper. They tried this on the Plaid with the yoke but backed down and offered a wheel now.
I don’t think it’s about cost, it’s about minimalism. When I sat in one it looked really amazing and the buttons felt very positive. In my mind it’s a step in the right direction. It’s no different to driving an electric car……just different, you just have to get used to it.
Aren’t they trying get everything ready ahead of FSD where the car will indicate for itself. Be interesting to see how often you see drivers not using indicators on multi roundabout junctions in the future. You get why Tesla have done it but I imagine most people would have preferred stalks for the wipers as well. Or the 2023 versions
Don’t think it’s cost it preparing for steer-by-wire and FSD in the future. Personally I think it’s a mistake - why do it now when these sort of changes are years away, certainly in the UK.
Yeah it's a cost saver, which is completely stupid. It's nothing to do with improving the human interface. It's a detriment to safety, everyone hates it except the apologists who think the yoke was a good idea, and it should be illegal. I guarantee the people who claim it works fine on roundabouts and stuff just don't signal every time they are supposed to, and are, in fact, the drivers we all hate who aren't safe.
It does let them make cars faster and cheaper, that is a good thing but there are some 'the best part is no part' options that are not actually helpful.
Btw, I suspect the major cost saving for them is fitting the stalks and the gubbins that makes them work, and most importantly the time that takes on the production line. The switch and stalk are trivial and obviously no-one would care if they just charged £20 more for the vehicle even if stalks weren't over a century old and insanely cheap and reliable.
It is impressive that Tesla can and does do things like this. Yes, it is a cost down but once they have iterated on the design and it is as user-friendly as traditional indicators all other car makers will follow as this is another step forward.
The other great thing Tesla has done on these new models is leverage their vision system as a parking sensor system. The vision system in any car is very expensive to implement so its good that it gets some use in the UK as a parking sensor system!.
I’ve bought a new M3 Highland and LOVE IT. Extraordinary car. Got used to the stalks in about 5 minutes - easy peasy, I love change ❤❤❤
I think they might have an option for a turn stalk as even with the ild steering wheel on the model x they brought back an option for the older wheel.
Wipers any better?
Sensor is a bit, erm, random sometimes
I THINK due to depreciation im not going to be able to order the new M3P as i bought the old m3p September 2022.. its MINT on 19,000 miles i put £14k down but its devalued way more than i thought so i doubt ill be able to finance my way into a new one without another whopping deposit. Advice?
Do the steering wheel buttons work with gloves on?
Turn on the heated steering wheel instead of the gloves? Practically no impact on range.
@@connclissmann6514 I know it's a bit of an odd question, but the reason I asked it is because I happened to be renting a Tesla over the Halloween period, and at one time I was in a full 1 piece outfit, and was surprised to see that I could use the touch screen through the gloves just fine. Was just curious to see if it would be the same for the steering buttons 🤷🏿♂️
@@Ayomikun Thanks for that clarification. (I do like the heated wheel in a Tesla.)