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- Did Abraham exist? If so, when did he live and what evidence supports his existence? We offer several data points to support his life.
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Craig Olson - How Old Was Abraham?
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Nahum M. Sarna - Understanding Genesis
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David Noel Freedman - The Anchor Bible Dictionary, Vol. 1
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Jonathan S. Greer et al. - Behind the Scenes of the Old Testament: Cultural, Social, and Historical Contexts
Daniel I. Block - Israel: Ancient Kingdom or Late Invention?
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Genesis 12-50
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Langgut, Dafna, Israel Finkelstein, Thomas Litt, Frank Harald Neumann, & Mordechai Stein - Vegetation and
Climate Changes during the Bronze and Iron Ages (~3600-600 BCE) in the Southern Levant Based on
Palynological Records
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Amihai Mazar and Israel Finkelstein - The Quest for the Historical Israel
Kenneth Kitchen - On The Reliability of the Old Testament
Avraham Biran - Biblical Dan
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D. Ussishkin et al. - The New Encyclopedia of Archaeological Excavations in the Holy
Land
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Mark W. Chavalas
- Mesopotamia and the Bible
C. Gordon - Biblical Customs and the Nuzu Tablets. The Biblical Archaeologist
www.jstor.org/stable/3209317
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#History #Bible #Genesis
I am a retired Episcopal priest. I just LOVE this sort of material. Thanks for producing it.
Thank you
@@InspiringPhilosophy doesn't your view of the exodus being around 1265 BC change the date here ?
There are so many scientific and historical myths in the Bible and the Quran as well as Stone Age morality considering the view and treatment of non-believers, women, slaves and homosexuals these books can not be from an all knowing, loving God.
God’s covenant to a wandering Mesopotamian to give him and his descendants a land he’s not from, only to leave his decedents to suffer oppression and genocide for the better part of 4,000 years, then for Europeans who have no connection to the land to sneak in with the help of the British, are all proof this story was made up by oppressed people.
God is not a Hollywood director for some sick psychopathic movie that ends with bloodshed and genocide, nor God is a real estate agent..
If you read your Bible you will see how God himself evolved throughout the ages in the eyes of the writers of that book.
Most of the Quran is based on Biblical myths…..
I love that IP not only helps defend the Bible very well, but also gives a history lesson while he's doing it. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for confirming that this is an apologetics and not a science channel.
@@carstenschultz5Okay, is it prejudice??
“We could say the Dutch founded New York, even if they called it New Amsterdam”
“The Yakhdum-lim records a war similar to the Abraham account”
“The fact an Israelite from the Iron Age got all the details of the middle Bronze Age right, within a coherent narrative, should tell us something”
Gems.
The video provides no evidence that Abraham was a real person. The possibility that the authors of Genesis some 1500 years after the purported events took place weaved in some aspects of history as they were then understood should not surprise. The consensus among historians is that Genesis and Exodus are foundation myths created during the Iron Age by the Israelites who emerged as a political entity in Canaan after the Bronze Age Collapse.
@@simonromijn3655 Wrong. It is a consensus among some and not others.
There is enough evidence suggesting he’s real. He did not live too long before the authors of the Pentateuch, giving them the ability to memorize his story and others (very easy to do in the Bronze Age).
No historical achronisms whatsoever in the testimony of the Pentateuch.
So you have no excuse to deny people’s accounts and experiences. Unless you also would like yours to be denied, that is.
Where is the third quote in the video?
There are so many scientific and historical myths in the Bible and the Quran as well as Stone Age morality considering the view and treatment of non-believers, women, slaves and homosexuals these books can not be from an all knowing, loving God.
God’s covenant to a wandering Mesopotamian to give him and his descendants a land he’s not from, only to leave his decedents to suffer oppression and genocide for the better part of 4,000 years, then for Europeans who have no connection to the land to sneak in with the help of the British, are all proof this story was made up by oppressed people.
God is not a Hollywood director for some sick psychopathic movie that ends with bloodshed and genocide, nor God is a real estate agent..
If you read your Bible you will see how God himself evolved throughout the ages in the eyes of the writers of that book.
Most of the Quran is based on Biblical myths.
@@jlupus8804 What did he say?
I am Eastern Orthodox,but your channel is fascinating!Keep goin'🙏
Yes brother. His channel is inspiring. I would be very happy if he one day share a list with his books.
Me too, guys
I must keep myself from binging on IP videos. Thank you Michael for strengthening the faith of Christians and giving the skeptic a strong case for Christian belief. God bless your ministry.
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
@@RJ-s41ty There is a Biblical commentary principle, that you interpret the vague verses in light of the clear verses. As you said, Genesis 12:4 says that Abraham was 75 when he left Haran. Genesis 11:31-32 says that Terah died at the age of 205 in Haran. If you subtract those numbers, that gives you 130. So Terah was at least 130 years older than Abram if you take it literally. Since it mentions that Terah begat 3 sons at the age of 70, it is quite likely that it says that he began to have children at 70, not that all three was born when he was seventy.
@@migaotto292 you're trying to defend the indefensible which makes you a son of Sam too huh
@@RJ-s41ty I am just trying to honestly look at all the Biblical data and base my views on the whole picture, not just a few selected verses. If it is indefensible, why do you throw personal insults and claim things about my motivations, instead of addressing my arguments and knocking down my "indefensible" view? All I'm asking is that you look at the whole word of God and if you can show me that I am wrong, please do. God bless.
This is great. Your Old Testament series is a CZcams blessing! These character series are so helpful.
@Mr Leg 🤣 not wrong. makes good videos but takes forever to make them
1:30 Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
@@RJ-s41ty what are u taking about? He wasn’t 70 in the Bible he was much older actually read the passage.
@@webslinger527 I posted the passage read it for yourself and quit being moronic
@@RJ-s41ty I did read it that what I’m saying what are u taking about
Except that Abraham didn’t write his own story. More than likely, it was passed down orally for centuries until someone finally wrote it down. Over the centuries, it could’ve possible that people telling the story just used modern names for cities and lands that existed during the storytellers time so that the people listening would be able to easily identify the places where the story took place.
That’s plausible
I love how you show the pages you are referencing as well as the book cover. Very professional.
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
@@RJ-s41ty No, you're just mistaken.
Verse 26 says Terah was 70 when he had Abraham. Read the verse IP is actually referencing, Genesis 11:32, and it will tell you when Terah died. IP is correct.
@@thekingofsomewhere Funny how mistaken you are.
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Look at the time stamp I referenced, make sure you pause it this time, read my comment slowly if you have to.
IP references two verses to attempt to deceive people in regards to what the Bible states.
He first attempts to tell you how old Terah was when he died, with Genesis 11:32, he then takes a verse of how old Abram was when he left Haran, and subtracts that from how old Terah was when he died. Which is clearly a lie in regards to what the Bible actually says as it doesn't say that Abram was 75 when Terah died, see below.
Genesis 11:32 states:
And the days of Terah were two hundred and five years: and Terah died in Haran.
Genesis 11:26 -
And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
Genesis 12:4 -
So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran.
He clearly does math in a stupid way, unnecessarily, to try and claim Terah, Abram's father, had him when he was 130. When Terah was 145 when Abram was 75(and left Haran).
The Bible clearly says that Abram was born when Terah was 75.
If you read Genesis 11:26, it clearly shows Inspiring Doubt & Idiocy's lie referenced at the minute and 30 second mark of this videos timestamp.(where he tries to claim that the numbers found in the Bible are not accurate in regards to age, he clearly tries to say Terah was 130 when he had Abram)
You consistently amaze me with your persistent research.
Thanks again for making this effort on behalf of those of us who believe in biblical inerrancy.
Biblical inerrancy...hmm... 🤔
In less than 3mins at the beginning, this video states:
Yahweh's prophecy to Abram of a 430-year Sojourn was likely inaccurate,
Biblical Chronology can't be trusted,
The Ages of Patriarchs are likely inaccurate.
Then, the claim that Hebrew didn't exist until hundreds of years after Abraham's time despite the Bible conspicuously recording Abraham and his immediate offspring and people giving Hebrew names to sacred sites (Beith'el/Bethel, Beer-Sheba/Be'er-Sheva', Jehovah-Jireh/Yahowah-Yir'eh, Beer Lahai-Roi/Be'er Lahhai-ro'i, Galeed/Gal'edh)) while his Syrian relatives gave conspicuously Aramaic (Syrian) names to such sites (Jegar-Sahadutha/Yeghar-Sahadhutha').
The Proto-Sinaitic inscriptions at Serabit El-Khadim, Wadi El-Hol, Timna demonstrate that Hebrew as a language was in use in the c.1700s-1500sBCE by Israelites in Egypt. This script, long claimed to be Phoenician or Canaanite despite yielding no good translations in such languages has recently been found to yield viable translations in Hebrew. The writing was derived from Egyptian Hieroglyphs and made into a proper Alphabet -the world's first- and it ceases to appear in Egypt around the end of the Middle Kingdom when Egypt's power collapsed and a large Semitic population suddenly vanishes from Egypt. Then the script appears in Exodus-related inscriptions in the Sinai, then near the tip of the Gulf of Aqaba before showing up in Canaan -which at that time was still using the more complicated Cuneiform.
Basically, the evidence seems to favour the Hebrew-speaking Israelites inventing the Alphabet and bringing it to Canaan, where it caught on and continued to evolve into the more familiar Paleo-Hebrew/Canaanite/Moabite/Ammonite/Edomite/Syrian/Philistine styles which of course led to Etruscan, Greek, and Latin Alphabets.
So Hebrew was indeed spoken in the 3rd to mid-2nd Milleniums BCE, as both the Bible and the identification of the Proto-Sinaitic language with Hebrew suggests. The Bible is therefore shown to be accurate in this case, though out of bias against it, hardly anyone in the last 120 years had seriously associated the Proto-Sinaitic inscriptions with the Israelites though no other Semitic languages could offer real explanations for the obviously Semitic Alphabet/Ancestor of the aforementioned other Alphabets.
You can find some of the fascinating translations by David Rohl (or rather the Hebrew scholar who he enlisted to translate) and Douglas Petrovich, especially the inscription called Serabit El-Khadim Sinai 361. Two very different translations but both clearly relating to Exodus events. I tend to favour Mr Rohl's conclusions. It hangs on the identification of one character at the beginning of the inscription.
Petrovish's translation of Sinai Inscription 361 reads:
"Our bound servitude was lingering. At that time, Moses caused astonishment. It is the Year of Astonishment upon Ba'alath."
Rohl's translation, correcting the initial letter from B to Z:
"Ze shechavash nimash.
'Az tamah shenetham hana' leBa'alath."
"This that was captive was removed. Then their Year came to an end, they that had strayed unto Baalath."
Baalath is the feminized form of Baal, and was the Semitic designation for Cow goddess Hathor, to whom there still stand the remains of an ancient shrine at the site this and other inscriptions were found. The ancient Egyptian name of the site is Du-Mofka, which means Turquoise Mountain.
The site was an ancient Turquoise mine.
Its proximity to places like Wadi er-Refayid (Rephidim) and Wadi Al-Lush (Alush) and Marah (Murat) and Jebel Musa (Mt Sinai) makes the identification of Serabit El-Khadim/Du-Mofka with Biblical Dophkah a very rare find, in that the majority of stages along the Israelites' journeys after the Sea Crossing to Sinai are mere toponyms, not cities with identifiable standing structures or ruins to help identify.
And the explanation of why the Israelites came to Dophkah after the Sea Crossing would appear to have been to liberate the rest of their people at work in these mines, perhaps. And nearby, the Manna first appears in the Bible record, and now, the archaeological record.
Another inscription reads, Sinai 357:
"'Entosh gan dakh! Mi la'Av biManakh?
Shema' 'amar 'Arba."
"I uproot a despised garden! Who is for The Father in regards to your Manna? Pay Heed, says Arba."
Seems to be an admonition in keeping with God's instructions on collecting Manna and a dig at Egypt - 'the despised garden'.
What's also interesting about the translations of Mr Rohl is that the first lines Rhyme in Hebrew.
At any rate, we have no reason to doubt that the Ancient Hebrews did indeed speak Ancient Hebrew based on the foregoing, and if they spoke it on arriving to Egypt in the 1700s BCE or in the time of coregency between Amenemhat III and Senusret II* to which the earliest of the inscriptions date (don't quote me on the numerals; can never remember those), then obviously Jacob spoke Hebrew, and it stands to reason that Isaac and Abraham did as well, which is why those earlier Patriarchs are described as giving Hebrew names to places in an account that does clearly distinguish when names are of foreign origin, which is why every Egyptian doesn't inexplicable have Hebrew names but rather Egyptian, in the Genesis account.
The literal Hebrew of Exodus 12:40 says:
"And the dwelling of the Sons of Israel who had dwelled in Egypt was 430 years", not 'the time they lived in Egypt was 430 years' as stated in the beginning of this video but to be honest, that's more a common fault of many English translations.
The verses continue as Moses goes out of his way to record in 12:41:
"And it came about at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, it even came about on this very day that all the armies of Jehovah went out of the land of Egypt."
Note that it emphasizes 430 Years To The DAY.
Specific, and Significant.
He's right to point out the Samaritan Pentateuch and Septuagint's wording, as well as Paul's explanation of what period the 430 years occupied, but when you gotta start twisting the scriptural data like those 1st 2 minutes to try and find a way to make it suit a theory...one's really undermining the same source upon which they simultaneously claim to defend.
A better series of documentaries delving into the considerable evidence for these events is "Pharaohs & Kings: A Biblical Quest" and "Patterns of Evidence: Exodus" and "Patterns of Evidence: The Moses Controversy" (The 1st two films in the series).
Those particular films and others of Egyptologist David Rohl don't attempt to reconfigure the Biblical data and instead let it guide them.
(But the 3rd and 4th Patterns of Evidence films go astray and embrace sensational and easily debunked notions, so I'd be leery of those)
*The evidence for Joseph coming to prominence in Egypt at the time of these Pharaohs is pretty abundant.
A long-lived Semitic Vizier named Ankhu, 'Overseer of The Fields' finds mention in inscriptions there.
His 2 sons become prominent, overseeing Egypt and Canaan after him, and the older son in Egyptian is called Khebeded, meaning 'Disfavoured', fitting as the Blessing of Firstborn was given to Joseph's younger son by Jacob. Khebeded also finds mention in the monumental inscriptions at Serabit El-Khadim. It's suggested that Joseph himself, having become obviously well-versed in Egyptian, is the one who devised the far more accessible Alphabet for the sake of his people once they came to Egypt, or perhaps his sons.
Famine and efforts to avert it are to be found, the Bahr Yusuf dating to this time also, which diverted water from the Nile to an artificial lake to drain excess Flood waters. (The Nile overflooding would lead to loss of crops).
A royal Egyptian palace was found at Avaris/Tell ed-Dab'a/Ancient Goshen built over a Syrian style house originally built on virgin land, where Syro-Palestinian Shepherder people had settled, not more than 100, with their Syrian livestock. The Garden Tomb had 12 main chapel crypts, the most prominent capped with a small pyramid, in which a 2wice life-size mortuary statue was found smashed by haters of this man after the Semitic population there had left with his mummified remains, while the other tombs had bodies in them still. The statue depicted a fair-skinned Semitic figure of prominence, with a colourful, long, striped robe, red hair and a throwstick, symbolizing a foreigner with power in Egypt.
This evidence agrees with the Biblical description of Joseph coming to power, bringing his relatives and their goods into Goshen, his 11 brothers, his father, (and more evidence I won't go into much more) the Semites' prospering in wealth and number, then falling into impoverishment and slavery, and a sharp reduction in the male population, Egyptian slave lists with scores of Biblical Israelite names, onesuch being Shiphrah, mentioned in the early Exodus account as one of the Hebrew Midwives who wouldn't consent to killing the male children at Pharaoh's order. I believe this is the Leiden Papyrus.
Joseph's Egyptian name Zaphenath-Paaneah finds an Egyptian counterpart in Zat en Af pa'onekh, which means 'He Who is called Life', Ankhu a fitting hypocoristicon like Siisau for Ri'amasisau (Rameses) or Pul for Tiglath-Pileser.
I highly recommend checking out David Rohl's documentaries on the subject as well as those 1st 2 Patterns of evidence films.
🙂
@@Bimfirestarter "Likely" meaning, not to be confused with "confirmed"
Utube - Something very odd happened in 2100 BC
1:30 Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
@@RJ-s41ty No that’s taken out of context, IP knows about this common argument and he has debunked it in his livestreams repeatedly.
Every time Scholars say this person or place in the Bible never existed than all of a sudden they get put in place later in time b/c those people n places did indeed exist. They really need to stop that nonsense. all it does is divide people
Islam is as connected to Abraham as Mormonism is connected to gold plates.
That is a very multi layered comment. Is mormonism connected to gold plates? Yes. Is Ishmael connected to Abraham? Yes.
Is there truth to the gold plates? Definitely not. Is there more to my answer about Islam? Definitely. But ill let you fill in the blanks
@@alifbat1562 you mean the believe in a monotheistic God who is multipersonal !
@@alifbat1562 read Genesis Chapters 18 to 19. Not only does God appear to Abraham in the form of a man , but in 19:24 we find interactions between God on earth and God in heaven.
@@alifbat1562 how come they are myths when the oldest remaining Jewish groups ( Christians and Kabbala) believe in a multipersonal God?
@@alifbat1562 You are definitely cherry picking scripture to fit your worldview. What about the burning bush with Moses speaking to Yahweh? He speaks to The Angel of the LORD, Then God, then The Angel of The LORD again.
Same thing with Gideon. A man appears before him at a tree saying " The LORD is with you, mighty man of valor." He then proceeds to tell him to wait there so he may prepare a sacrifice. The Angel of The LORD says he will stay. He prepares the sacrifice then The Angel of The LORD disappears before him. He says " Surely I will die, for I have seen the face of Yahweh!" Then God says " You shall not die." Meaning there where more than 1 manifestation of Yahweh there with him even after The Angel of the LORD left.
Also, islam has about as much connection to Ishmael as those golden plates in Mormonism do to the truth.
Am I the only one that had to pause and rewind this video many times? So much great content packed into this that my brain couldn’t keep up!
Yes, without a doubt, the biblical Abraham (a/k/a Abram) did walk the face of the earth.
Fast becoming a favorite channel. I'm really looking forward to this particular video.
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
@@RJ-s41ty You're embarassing yourself.
@@thekingofsomewhere I would love to see you attempt to explain how.
I very much look forward to your reply!
@@RJ-s41ty you have been explained on other comments stop spamming
This is going to be epic. I hope that one day you actually go through the entire book of Genesis and write a book version of it.
He might be God in human form with all his research knowledge 😂
@@dynamiteshadows1384 no.
He said that he plans to do a book after he gets a degree at College, it will probably be about his Digital Physics argument, but lets hope that the next one is about his OT readings.
@@dynamiteshadows1384 That's ridiculous. He'd need to turn water into wine.
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
I seriously learn so much from your channel. I appreciate your unbiased and factual view.
Geez! The bibliography is always impressive!
Happy new year!!!
The Bible is 100% true and has proved itself through archeological findings many many times… the Word of God will show itself as it is revealed.
@@thelikebutton2464 ...which 'Bible'?
Great job. Check out the unique sulphur found at the cities of the plain. Which clearly rained down.
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
i get so excited when i see you post a new video :D
Amazing, just like we are used from you!
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
@@RJ-s41ty Even if you were right. Why would you call him a liar and a deciever? Ever heard of different opnios? Chill out!
I've never understood why people think linguistic anachronisms are a strong argument concerning dating things. At any time any text can be updated with new words or place names. The actions depicted are far more reliable to date with.
It shows that in some respect the text was altered over time.
The small crack in "perfect preservation" is all that is needed for people to question the trustworthiness of the text and seeds of doubt and sown intentially taking advantage of people's original naive understanding.
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@@robindebanque8736 well, some Christians do, but I'd argue that anachronisms wouldn't be imperfections either way.
After your biblical archaeology is completed, do you have any plans of starting a series on biblical prophecies?
Anyways, great work IP👍
Isaiah 53 and Daniel 9 are perhaps the most controversial, so it would be good to address this. Dr. Michael Brown is already interested in this topic.
Chuck Missler is an ex navy information specialist he does very good documentaries on bible prophecies, he gets into detail and his knowledge will shock you how clever the bible really is..
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
@@RJ-s41ty You were spamming this comment under other people's comments when you're blatantly mistaken. That's tough.
@@thekingofsomewhere please show me how I was mistaken so you can find your own error.
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Fun fact: Abraham could've met Ea-Nasir
I absolutely love the corroborations with other ancient texts from different cultures in that time period.
Paints a fuller picture of the ancient near east.
I’ve been watching so many “ biblical archaeology” videos that try their best to disprove the Bible. Thanks for this. I choose to just believe.
he kept saying the story is plausible not that it happened. this is all speculation based on a possibility that it could be plausible. Just because it is possible dont make it true. this is a video of what he thinks not what is true.
@@defenestratefalsehoodsWhy try to be the one to make someone doubt? Because the idea everyone sins is hard to swallow? Or is it the existence of God that bothers you?
@@antherrepublican330 don't assume... My deconstruction started when i went to look for the evidence of what i believed and the bible didnt line up with reality.
the earth is not 6300 years old as the family lines suggest. there was no global flood where 3 times the amount of water found on the entire earth appeared and disappeared, after the flood story there was about 560 years when the israelites got enslaved in Egypt which wouldn't be enough time for 8 people without food or fresh water to reproduce into the millions. Common sense told me the bible which i based my beliefs was indeed mythology just like the Egyptian, Romans, Aztecs, and Greek gods with their creation stories.
The biggest story was Moses was disheartening because there is no evidence at all of the entire story outside of the bible. people dont know what year or pharaoh the story happened under. Do you know?
@@antherrepublican330 And to answer you question. You have lawmakers making laws to force the religion and their beliefs on everyone. Anyone with a false belief and cant provide proof of their beliefs and why it should be a law forced on people need to stay out of congress.
i just challenge anyone to give me evidence that it is not mythology. There is evidence that the earth is not 6300 years old like the bible claim and the entire creation story is fictional. Why keep believing in the mythology?
@@defenestratefalsehoodsIt seems like you don't understand the Bible.
One of the most scientifically critical and historically accurate sources of information on the internet! Bravo
There are so many scientific and historical myths in the Bible and the Quran as well as Stone Age morality considering the view and treatment of non-believers, women, slaves and homosexuals these books can not be from an all knowing, loving God.
God’s covenant to a wandering Mesopotamian to give him and his descendants a land he’s not from, only to leave his decedents to suffer oppression and genocide for the better part of 4,000 years, then for Europeans who have no connection to the land to sneak in with the help of the British, are all proof this story was made up by oppressed people.
God is not a Hollywood director for some sick psychopathic movie that ends with bloodshed and genocide, nor God is a real estate agent..
If you read your Bible you will see how God himself evolved throughout the ages in the eyes of the writers of that book.
Most of the Quran is based on Biblical myths.
@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694 My god🤦🤣
@@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694 Just because morality changed throughout the centuries doesn't mean God doesn't exist. You can claim that biblical morality is backward, but I'd say today's idea of morality is backward and sick. Just because your set of morals is one way doesn't mean that's the way everyone should believe.
@@BigTBariatric
Like what?
Genocide against believers of other faiths
Slavery
Marriage to children
Selling female relatives
Belief in magic and evil eye
Original sin.
Salvation through a certain belief.
Faith-based Supremacy
Be specific please.
@@BigTBariatric
Like what?
Geno. cide against believers of other faiths?
Sla. very?
Mar. riage to children?
Mar. riage to two sisters?
Selling fe. male relatives?
Belief in magic and evil eye?
Original sin?
Salvation through a certain belief?
Faith-based Supre. macy?
What do you think of the interpretation that Abraham actually originated from somewhere in Turkey (Urfa)? The biblical text arguments are: 1) Genesis 24 (his servant sets out to Aram Naharaim), 2) Joshua 24 (your ancestors lived beyond the Euphrates), 3) People in that area spoke Aramaic, just as Laban who spoke Aramaic. The non-biblical argument is that the route is not correct if Abraham went from the great city of Ur to Canaan but stopped at Haran (it makes more sense if Abraham came from somewhere more north so that Haran is a stop from Urfa to Canaan in the right direction).
The journey to Haran was still under Terach's leadership. And the straight line isn't necessarily the most logical route.
I have a 1936 book called Bible and Spade and there’s a chapter on Abraham and I quote “Thus the name Abraham also in the form Abram has been identified on Babylonian contract tablets as that of a small farmer under the first dynasty (2200Bc) Among the witness’s to such contracts appear the names Jacob (Yakubu-ilu) and Joseph (Yasup-ilu) and it is said that Israel (as a personal name) has been found on a Babylonian seal of 2500Bc “
I believe that "175 years" was seasonal.
example: 175/4 = 43.75
A very reasonable old age for its time.
no... he needed 175 years to spread his gospel
if divide by 4 is scriptural would Hebrews wrote about Sarah as past child bearing age at 60/4=15 yo?
thats a good way to solve math with problems
Oh this is going to be a good series 🍿
It’s a struggle to believe in Abraham especially when u use the word “plausible”. Just because something is plausible doesn’t mean it’s probable
Exactly. It's an apologetics trick that their followers easily fall for because they want to believe that Abraham existed. Christians equate plausible with probable because they're so desperate for these things to be true. He provides a ton of information that gets you nowhere.
Exodus happened in 16th century BC particularly in 1521 BC and Abraham came to Canaan in 20th century BC particularly in 1951 BC at the age of 75 and he is born in 21st century BC particularly in 2026 BC
Thank you I've always had a natural sense of integrity the purity of the pentateuch and the depth and accuracy of This research is breathtaking thank you
Quality work. Thank you.
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
@@RJ-s41ty (I graciously suggest we as believers take a breath and, for the health of the greater body of believers, not be so quick to label everyone we have a knee jerk response to as a "Deceiver" or "heretic" or otherwise somehow 'unchristian'. It's counterproductive, makes us look petty and uneducated and lazy, and does nothing to encourage the sober and steady reading and study of scripture. In our haste to be steadfast in the defense of the validity and importance of scripture, we can fall prey to inopportune and damaging accusations towards other believers that derives not from their lack, but from our own.)
Literally at the time stamp you point out shows that Terah was 205 when he died [Gen 11:32] and that Abraham was 75 when Terah died [Gen 12:4].
205[Terah death age] - 75 [Abraham's age at Terah's death = 130 [Terah's age of Abraham's birth.]
We need to be better than this brother. Grace and peace!
The story of Isaac ("Laughter" in Hebrew) fascinates me. An Angel comes to Abe's house. His wife Sara, goes to kitchen to prepare food. (Angel's eat apparently) As she is cooking she overhears the Angel tell Abe, his wife will conceive a son. She, being old, and barren, laughed to herself in her head thinking "Yea, right, I'm too old dude", the Angel looked at her, and asked her "Why did you laugh?", she denied it. That is telepathy. Doesnt make story true, but those Shepards were sure way ahead of their time in the Sci-Fi Dept.
Angels are living beings just as you and I.
Sodom and gomorrah have been found. They are cities of ash, the kind of ash you get when you cook limestone with sulfur. There are a few videos on youtube that show these giant structures that are in multiple locations.
Was it really found?
@@tinanikkillz8570 there are other videos on youtube also about the same locations, but here's a quick one:
www.google.com/search?q=sodom+and+gomorrah+found&oq=sod&aqs=chrome.0.35i39j69i57j0l3.1868j0j7&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#
Is there any solid evidence of Israelites in Egypt? I've always wondered since I could never find anything on it.
Check my channel on March 26
See David Rohl's documiniseries 'Pharaohs & Kings: A Biblical Quest', also the 1st 2 films in the 'Patterns of Evidence' series ie. There Sure Is!
@@InspiringPhilosophy Will do
@@saintbrush4398 idk alot about the subject but I do know that there is a papyrus in egypt ( Iforgot what it was called) but it has hebrew and semetic names on the document which were some tribes of israel also search up the ipuwer papyrus
@@InspiringPhilosophy Cool story bro. Please tell me... are you going to give David Wood the document i sent you on facebook that shows that inbreeding between 1st cousins in Islam is responsible for a decline in intelligence and other health problems?? Please answer! I beg you.
You made an assumption that Abraham went north to Harran, but there are many towns called Ur, in fact Sanliurfa, was called Ur at one time, and makes more sense that Abraham left there and traveled south to Turluka where his father lived, which is half way to Harran where his older brother had lived to take his Nephew with him to Cannon. Even Abraham's great grandfather Suruc, has a town named after him just 32 mile to the west of Sanliurfa. Remember they were in the land of the Caldeans, souther Anatolia and not at the mouth of the Persian Gulf. Ref: Mary Wyatt's talk on the Travel of Abraham, CZcams.
I certainly agree! The major Ur in the south was the Ur of the Mesopotamians. But Genesis specifically mentions Ur of the Chaldeans, and we find at least two possible sites north/northeast of Harran that suit the description, one of which is . David A. Falk (Ancient Egypt and the Bible, YT) suggests , quite near Urfa, based on other (and very interesting) archaeological evidence. Falk also sheds some light on what may have been the reason for Terah and his family to move out of Ur to a "safer" location.
The complete Bible Genesis thru Revelation is true, accurate & is the inspired word of God. No disputing its authenticity!
Yeah, God is your government.
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I am also a believer of the Bible. But putting your trust in it just because the church said it's true or some Christians said it's inspired doesn't make sense. You have to authenticate to define truthfulness.
@Patrick Names The reason why I'm believing is a matter of conscience and faith. But I'm doubting and questioning things. I know I can't authenticate every claims of the Bible in this lifetime but as long as I can find some material that can be studied, I read it. It doesn't stop in Christianity. I also read about many other religions and belief systems because I can find some truth in them.
Wow, I was just thinking about this a couple days ago. Thanks man. God bless ya
*Seems heavenly voice !*
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1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
Interesting as always. Whenever to see a new video, I can’t want to allocate some time to listen to it.
I can't wait for this and the Exodus video!!!
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
Had Abraham not lived. The dream he had about us today fulfilling the moment when Jesus told the woman to cry for her children’s is special., From 1619 to 2019 has shocked this nation and the whole world.
Yelp, the events of today is showing the life of Abraham......
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
@@RJ-s41ty probably the difference between masoretic and dead Sea scrolls. IP reads dead Sea, which is far older.
@@redpilledtrooper7523 Please show you did any research and tell me how the text I posted is any different and how IP isn't a deceiver.
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@@RJ-s41ty czcams.com/video/VI1yRTC6kGE/video.html
This explains the difference between masoretic and dead Sea. The masoretic actually changes a number of persons ages.
@@redpilledtrooper7523 if you look at the KJV and the Dead Sea scrolls, there is little to no difference, these differences do not account for IP's discrepancies.
Additionally, there is no solid evidence to say that the Dead Sea scrolls are older.
IP is most definitely a deceiver, don't be deceived by his attempt to cause doubt in the straightforward reading of the Bible.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks so much for the video. Truly amazing!
Abraham is God's living proof that he uses imperfect people! Throughout the Bible old and New testament God has always used in perfect people! In fact his heart is towards the imperfect person so that he can perfect him or her! There's a scripture in the New testament that talks about two men in the temple one is praying loud enough to God and saying I thank you oh God that I am not like other men, and the other man is saying oh God be merciful to me a sinner! Which man do you think God delights in? He delights in the one needing help that's why Jesus died on the cross and rose again that we would have life otherwise we would have no life because we couldn't forgive our own sin we needed a sin sacrifice and that was Jesus! And I am forever grateful for that because it shows me myself as an imperfect person that God can use me as well!
In Genesis 21 and Genesis 26, Abimelech is described as the Philistine King of Gerar who meets and interacts with Abraham and later his son Isaac. Yet it is commonly accepted from history and archaeology that the Philistines did not enter Canaan until the Late Bronze Age, during the late bronze age collapse as one of the sea peoples. Doesn’t this narrow down Abraham’s time to only after this time period, about 1200 BC and after?
No, as I said in the video, this will be addressed in an upcoming video
@@InspiringPhilosophy Looking forward to the explanation!
This vídeo sure comes at the perfect time since I just got to the Old Testament in my reading of the Bible lol
I'm about to finish Genesis btw, I only got two chapters left to read
Fantastic insight as always, brother. God bless.
No insight..
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
Not religions but I am fascinated with ancient history. Loving all of the videos
Placing Avram in the mid-bronze age (c. 1980 bce or so) matches well with the fall of Ur and the end of Sumeria. With hundreds of refugees travelling up the rivers, and taking on the culture, language, and beliefs of the people that lived there.
Glad to see your sub count going up.
Love this! Keep these videos coming. So much great subject matter! God bless🙏
Although I take some exception to some claims, I am quite enjoying this video. Love this stuff!
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
Ip is a false teacher
@@majora36You raised the burden of proof, where are the arguments?? do not use ad hominem and judgments.
So Abram's original name would have been 𒈠𒊏𒀀𒀊 (AB₁A.RAMA).
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
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@@michaelturnage3395 thanks for agreeing
Yes
A story contains references to local customs and locations? Congratulations. You just proved Spiderman is real
Good job
Abraham did live to be 175. The ages of the Patriarchs overlapped. I believe Abraham lived around 2000 B.C. as he was the great grandfather of Joseph & his brothers who were the Patriarchs of the Twelve Tribes of Israel. As Abraham was 160 when Esau & Jacob was born, Isaac being 60 when his children Esau & Jacob were born, Jacob was around 85-100 when his 13 kids were born and he (died) at almost 140, this would put the Jews/Israelites entering Egypt during the time frame of 1800- 1700 B.C. This would put the Exodus at around 1370 B.C.- 1270 B.C.
The Bible can and should be trusted over all other sources.
What makes you say that? I would disagree
Because the Bible was divinely inspired.
Thank you so much sir. I wonder why I do get a python 3 learning advertisement haha
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
I really enjoy your videos, I think given the evidence Abraham was a real person who existed!
I´m glad to note your empirical methodology and logically coherent reasoning. An additional concept I´ve had to develop is that of spiritual-religious phenomena, and knowledge. The origin of modern empiricism and philosophy required the monk Thomas Aquinas´ pivotal efforts in shifting Aristotle´s esoteric type First Cause to a new one possible because of his arguing for a non-eternal/infinite Universe and argument from motion.
I got my college degree in Bio Anthro looking at other issues and angles in bio-psycho-social operations for symbol use. Nice.
Using a load of "its possible" & "could haves" to make it fit a narrative you know is floored is disingenuos.
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
Good job! I'm already looking forward to the camel ,the Philistines, Sodomah and Gomorah to the historical Moses and the historical Jesus will also come. God bless you ! 👏
What do you mean the historical jesus does he have another video on jesus coming out?
@@j.gstudios4576 I mean, it was good to make a video on the theme of the historical Jesus. Where was he born? When was he born? Did Herod really die in 4 BC? How old was Jesus when he was baptized by John (30 years was an ideal age in antiquity and antiquity, such as King David or Joseph the son of Jacob)? Was Jesus connected with John on the Essay? Would he really be able to drive the moneylender out of the huge temple complex, if so - when did it happen (at the beginning of his meeting or until the end)? Is there any direct archaeological evidence of Jesus of Nazareth or his family (written sources such as Flavius or Tacitus are not important)? What does the Nazarene Tablet actually prove about the death penalty for stealing a body from a grave (does this prove Jesus' existence and the fact that his body disappeared from the grave?) Or the ossuary of James, son of Joseph and brother of Jesus (really the ossuary of James the righteous, brother of the Lord or can it be someone else?)
@@lukyncz3778 Historians generally believe that Herod died in 4 B.C., although there have been arguments made that he died in 5 B.C. or 1 B.C. Also he had some what of a mental disorder and the end of his reign which made him uneasy and unstable which fits with how scared he was when he heard that Jesus was going to be the new king as a baby which made him kill all of the children. Also I think jesus was in his twenties when he was baptized but I'll have to check for that now for archeological evidence supporting him and his family existing we do not have that much even though we do have a supposed letter between jesus and some king which has jesus writing back even though it is thought to be a forgery
The Bible is historically reliable, and we should act accordingly. The Bible is not a book of fairy tales but is basically a history mixed with theology. What the Jews said are not myths. They can't even.
@@Name-dv4qu why?
Personally like that you brought up that there at one point no problems between God and the “pagan” Gods for a time, felt nice.
But this is just my opinion.
I also recommend watching this video on why they still weren't polytheist though.
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This is SOOO interesting, I can't thank you enough!!
Household idols of property were also used in the days of David.
Fantastic information! Many Thanks for all the hard work put into your research and your furnishing citations to support your conclusions. BTW I was under the impression that both Sodom and Gomorrah had been located and dated to the Bronze age but there was no mention of this in the video. Thoughts?
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@@InspiringPhilosophy Just finished viewing the video. Great Stuff! Not sure how I sit with explanation of a meteoric event destroying the cities but chances of a naturally occurring nuclear event as is suspected on the African Continent are probably just as remote. Thanks for helping me with my query. Best Wishes.
From the introduction, I would like to note that IP's question at 0:19 "Does the account of Abraham correlate to a real time in history?" is not incompatible with what he says skeptics allege at 0:08, namely that "...there is not enough evidence to suggest this man ever existed, or even if he did exist, the stories about him in Genesis are probably later embellished legends".
To my mind, this compatibility is borne out in the rest of the video. The evidence as presented seems to suggest that the culture of the Biblical accounts is similar enough to the archaeological evidence to conclude that the stories did indeed originate with people living in the Middle Bronze Age. But I don't see how that either supplies evidence that Abram was a real man, or that the stories were not rewritten or reinterpreted in light of newer theological insights at a later age, when the Hebrews had started to write down their folklore and their origin stories, conserving the elements which were well known from the existing oral tradition, but inserting for example more gratuitous references to their God's support of their patriarch, or indeed updating geographical references as the video also shows that happened.
I don't find the fact that old stories reflect the olden days broadly correctly remarkable. It is a matter for textual analysis and archaeology to determine which period better fits, and I think IP will get more push-back on this topic from literalists and other assorted fundis than from the "skeptics" he mentioned in his introduction.
It is never enough evidence. Now it’s just the stories go back to the middle Bronze Age but we still cannot conclude he existed. By the same logic we cannot conclude Sargon of Akkad was real. The stories just show they go back to the Akkadian period, but he could have been a mythical king, not a real person.
@@InspiringPhilosophy Thanks for taking the time to react to my comment. I know you don't have to.
Never enough evidence, indeed. The story of the historian's craft. It would be helpful though if we had even roughly contemporary accounts of Abram/Abraham from other sources, contemporary texts purportedly from him, statues or depictions roughly from his own time, or references from his immediate successors to what he did or meant to them, like we have for Sargon.
On the evidence continuum, I'd be hard pressed to conclude that Sargon was more likely to be mythical than Abraham, provided I would treat the Bible as no more authoritative than any other historical document. Of course if you value the Bible as a more reliable source than other old texts on religious grounds, then all bets are off, but I don't think that is an argument that you would be willing to make, even though you might privately feel that is the way it is.
@Hans De Mos
I don’t think there would be much direct evidence of Abraham’s existence anyway. He was a nomad, not a king, he wouldn’t leave any significant evidence behind.
@@marcfofi688 I agree. But that is not a reason to insist that we should lower our standards of evidence, is it?
The evidence that would prove Abraham's existence may be in his children and grandchildren. Abrahaman's first political descendant was his great-grandson Joseph. Now is the time to prove whether Joseph exited and whether material archaeological evidence remained after him, such as a statue, a tomb or the place of his alleged residence. If Joseph left, we no longer have to doubt the existence of Abraham.
Love the vid, just a quick question about 1:12; Israel (Jacob) has an age of 64, which factors to 8x8, and you have 1x8x8, and adding 1+8+8=17, to go along with the other sums of 17. But it can also be written as 1x1x8x8, or 2x2x2x2x2x2, which adds to 12. I don't know why this particular factorization was chosen, but it seems selective to me. It doesn't detract from the (super high quality as usual) video, I am just wondering why split up 64 this way, it seems odd to me.
im a muslim interested in ancient history, ur videos r great, maybe ur side of the stories doesnt go toe to toe with my religion’s side but still veryy informative, shot out to u man!!
I hope you one day spend the time to research the oldest texts in the Quran about Muhammad’s life.
D’wah is allowed to lie when I’m a country or place that isn’t majority muslim in order to make Islam more appealing for converts.
Don’t ask your imam seek yourself, I know questioning the Quran is a sin punishable by death but how can you believe and follow something you know understand. Muhammad is the moral standard for muslims and in order to follow him you mush question and search.
After exampling Islam I’d suggest watching “cold case Christianity” it shows the reliability of the New Testament and what Jesus said and what happened to him. Spoiler Jesus died it wasn’t a trick from allah, it’s one of the most accepted facts in history, Jesus has more documented history then any other person is ancient history.
I'd been wondering why Rachel took the idols. This explanation was really good.
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
@@RJ-s41ty Strong language (deceiver, lying). Were you aware that there are two conflicting age systems in Genesis? Some early texts have one group of ages, and other texts have other numbers. I'm not sure why you posted these points as a reply to me. I find the explanation that Rachel took the idols for the sake of proving her inheritance compelling, but I have some reservations about where he puts Abraham. It seems to me that Abraham could be much earlier than he argues, but I don't consider him a "deceiver" just because he has a different interpretation.
@@danielpalmer643 he has changed the text, which makes him a liar and a deceiver.
@@RJ-s41ty Well, I can see that he wrote the ending of Gen. 12:4 incorrectly, and his calculation ignores Gen. 11:26. I think calling anyone a "liar and a deceiver" is rude. It could be an honest mistake. Furthermore, I checked you with the English Standard Version, which seems to validate what you are saying. This video makes reference to the Masoretic text and the difference between it and the Samaritan Pentateuch and the Septuagint. I'm not interested enough in your ad hominem attack to look at all those sources. You might consider reading St. Augustine's "City of God", which has a fairly extensive discussion about life spans in Genesis as well. Also, still unsure why you are addressing this point to me. I didn't write this piece, I just liked it. Remember Matt. 7:1-3!
IP I know you're making a video on Sodom and Gomorrah, but wouldn't that also be evidence for the accuracy of the account?
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
Came back after 3 years, thats how you know its a good video. I would say the biggest influence on Abraham's period are the Spartali Tablets of Chedor-laomer. Placing him near 1775 instead of the biblical 2090.
Not only did Abraham walk the earth,he was contemporaries with Noah and Shem.
Did you do a debate recently? I thought I saw a title with your name on it and made a mental note to listen to that.
Yeah I think there's schedule debate with Apostate Prophet?
He did one with Michael Schermer today
@@anunknownentity1637 it’s not on modern day debates channel why is is that?
@@charles4208 you have to pay to watch it live. It will probably be up in a few days or so
@@anunknownentity1637 oh I see
Any thoughts on the identifications of the Kings named in Genesis 14?
He will do a video about that.
There is not enough data to identify them. We lack a lot of texts from that time.
Is it fair to say the archeological record is skewed?
Abraham lived.. Im his descendent.
Great vid IP in any moment an atheist is going to show up
Yo.
Wow that teaser at the end!
I am Catholic and i love your channel
some of these ideas are well known according to Jewish commentaries on the Tankah and others are very different.
I'm an atheist and I find this fascinating.
Me too
Hey IP can you give me the link for the channel your going to debate michael?
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Ok thanks good luck
@@InspiringPhilosophy in any moment your debate is going to start
(Btw If michael shermer ever pulls out the biblical slavery argument you better know how to respond to it)
Freindly reminder
For God so loved the world that he gave his ONLY begotten son to die for our sins whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life! Lean on Jesus in these trying times!
I'm kinda sure mosaic law did come after Abraham right? So why would Abraham follow laws that come like +400 if not even like +600 years after him?
I think he was making a point that if the Israelites were making it up they’d add stuff like that in.
@@marcfofi688 Not sure what you mean, could you rephrase it. :)
Skeptics claim that Abraham was a fabrication by later Israelites who didn't had any idea about the culture in which Abraham must have lived. So if they were recreating a Abraham they may unknowingly impose their laws and culture in Abraham's period.
@@alangervasis Ah i see.
I’m pretty sure there were laws back then too. What time frame do you think it was. I figure around 500 years after the Tower of Babel time with Nimrod and God had to work Abraham out of his cultural background. He was probably one of the nicer men of his time. Just talking. With reference to your question: where does it say Abraham followed Mosaic Laws? Moses hadn’t been born yet. Do you trust Scripture? I know there’s a lot of controversy but then that’s an easy thing to happen with distance in time and all the new theories, doctrines and the differences in Bibles (get a good Bible). There’s even two types of science: atheist and intelligent design. Intelligent design is pretty good. Stephen Myers is one of the scientists in that group.
I'm looking forward to the camel thing. 🐫
How does IP explain that, as the Catholic NABRE Bible admits, it is anachronistic for Abraham to use metal coinage or have domestic camels in Israel?
I was wondering how long it would take for you to get to Sodom and Gomorrah. Given reletively recent findings, my personal theory on what physically happened to them is that they were nuked by an airburst meteorite like the tunguska incident
If you watched biblical channels you would actually learnt he twists the truth
@@abashedsanctimony154 who are u referring to
@@sonoftheking1977 This channel is false philosophy
@@abashedsanctimony154 Lmao yeah suuuure. Dude you listen to Kenneth Copeland and other weird megachurch “””pastors””””. Read the actual Church Fathers instead of listening to those guys who just want money.
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Hey 👋. God bless you, but I have a question ; can you start debunking arguments that Jewish people use to prove that Jesus isn’t the messiah ?? Thanks
great video. amazing research and citations too. subscribed!
IP, please write a book! I would love to see your timeline of history, your arguments for God, the Soul, and the Biblical worldview in general!
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
@@RJ-s41ty Or, he didn't look at other verses, and got these from scholars. For freaks sake, try not going straight to the worst possible interpretation of the evidence.
@@RJ-s41ty You also don't know if it says something slightly different in the hebrew. Unless you secretly know biblical hebrew?
IP is all about apologetics.
Thank you. Subbed.
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
Kent Hovind's channel is way better
@@RJ-s41ty Kent hovind LOL
This the video that causes me to subscribe!
it’s also possible that abraham didn’t come from sumerian ur but from southern turkey
Abraham, Hagar, Ishmael, Sarah, and Isaac have never existed. They are purely allegorical characters created by the ancient Israelites to represent assumptions that the Israelites made about their unknown ancestors. During the time of the Israelites, there was no recorded history and no means of scientifically discerning or studying history. Hence, information was transmitted orally, which is unreliable and results in the alteration (typically exaggeration) or loss of information.
Hence, during that time, people would use their experiences and worldviews to make assumptions about their ancestors. In regard to the ancient Israelites, their worldview was that their national god, Yahweh, was the god of all mankind. However, that worldview led them to wonder why Yahweh was in a personal relationship with only them and not all of mankind. Hence, they came up with the only logical explanation: Yahweh must have _chosen_ them to be his people and Yahweh must have done this many generations earlier, since they had been worshipping Yahweh for many, many generations.
This led them to further conclude that Yahweh must have chosen them via one of their ancestors (i.e. a forefather). Subsequently, they developed an allegorical character to represent this hypothetical/ theoretical ancestor: Abram (Abraham). This is why the character is named "Abram" at the beginning of his story in Genesis; "Abram" literally means "exalted father" or "forefather." Ask yourselves the following question: _Would a parent name their child "exalted father" or "forefather"?_
Furthermore, later in the story, Abram's name is changed to "Abraham," which means "father of a multitude." The ancient Israelites put this detail into the story to represent their assumption that their hypothetical/ theoretical ancestor was promised by Yahweh that they (the Israelites themselves, his descendants) would become a nation's worth of people (i.e. a multitude) since they were in fact a nation.
The names of other characters in the story of Abraham also indicate that they're allegorical.
For example, in the story of Abraham, he has a wife, Sarai, whose name is changed to "Sarah." Well, "Sarai" and "Sarah" both mean "princess," and they are meant to convey the irony of Sarah's status relative to her slave, "Hagar"; Hagar _had been_ a princess while her owner, Sarah, had never been a princess. This irony is further expressed via Yahweh's decision to carry out his promise to Abraham via the son whom Sarah bore to him - Isaac - rather than via the son whom Hagar bore to him - Ishmael.
On the other hand, the name "Hagar" means "to flee." What parent would name their child "to flee"? The character is named "Hagar" because she _flees_ from Sarah after Sarah expresses jealousy to Abraham about Hagar being pregnant with Abraham's child (Genesis 16:6). So, obviously, her name and the story of which she is a part are contrived/ made up.
As for her son, the Israelites named him "Ishmael," which means "God listens," in order to represent their belief that Yahweh still cares about non-Israelites (gentiles) even though their not part of the chosen people.
Also, characters in the story of Abraham, including Ishmael, are meant to represent the idea that the Israelites' neighboring nations/ peoples were more related to them than people who were located further away. For example, Abraham's nephew, Lot, is the allegorical ancestor of the Moabites; and Ishmael is the allegorical ancestor of the Kedarites (who are the ancestors of certain Arab ethnic groups).
This same logic applies to other patriarchal characters in the Book of Genesis, such as Noah and his sons (Shem, Japheth, and Ham) and - obviously - Adam and Eve. However, they are meant to be allegorical ancestors for all of humanity rather than just the ancient Israelites' local neighboring nations/ peoples.
In short, these characters were completely made up by the ancient Israelites to symbolize their assumptions about their origins as a people, as well as the origins of neighboring peoples and the rest of mankind. They were never meant to be taken literally in regard to specific details; only the general ideas/ assumptions that the stories symbolize were intended to be taken literally: Yahweh chose their ancestral line to produce a people with whom he'd have a special relationship [Abraham's child with Sarah]; they and their neighbors must share a common ancestry [Abraham's child with Hagar; Abraham's nephew, Lot; etc]; mankind as a whole must share a common ancestry [Adam, Eve, Noah, etc]; etc.
Hence, because Abraham is an allegorical character, all of the stories about his relationship with Yahweh, whom Muslims call "Allah," are fictional, both those in the Bible and in the Quran.
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After impregnating an 80 years old woman.
Abraham: " I always knew , I'm a hell of a man."
89 year old lady as she had Isaac at 90 meaning she- Sarah- was 89 when she got pregnant...
1:30 IP is lying.
Genesis 12
4 So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram was seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. Genesis 11 shows that IP is a deceiver, Terah was 70 when he had Abram:
26 And Terah lived seventy years, and begat Abram, Nahor, and Haran.
Excellent video as always Mike. On a different yet similar note might I have the name of the music used in this video? Thanks.
The literal Hebrew of Exodus 12:40 says:
"And the dwelling of the Sons of Israel who had dwelled in Egypt was 430 years", not 'the time they lived in Egypt was 430 years' as stated in the beginning of this video but to be honest, that's more a common fault of many English translations.
The verses continue as Moses goes out of his way to record in 12:41:
"And it came about at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, it even came about on this very day that all the armies of Jehovah went out of the land of Egypt."
Note that it emphasizes 430 Years To The DAY.
Specific, and Significant.
Right to point out the Samaritan Pentateuch and Septuagint's wording, as well as Paul's explanation of what period the 430 years occupied, but when you gotta start twisting the scriptural data like those 1st 2 minutes to try and find a way to make it suit a theory...one's really undermining the same source upon which they simultaneously claim to defend.
A better series of documentaries delving into the considerable evidence for these events is "Pharaohs & Kings: A Biblical Quest" and "Patterns of Evidence: Exodus" and "Patterns of Evidence: The Moses Controversy" (The 1st two films in the series).
Those particular films and others of Egyptologist David Rohl don't attempt to reconfigure the Biblical data and instead let it guide them.
(But the 3rd and 4th Patterns of Evidence films go astray and embrace sensational and easily debunked notions, so I'd be leery of those)
*The evidence for Joseph coming to prominence in Egypt at the time of these Pharaohs is pretty abundant.
A long-lived Semitic Vizier named Ankhu, 'Overseer of The Fields' finds mention in inscriptions there.
His 2 sons become prominent, overseeing Egypt and Canaan after him, and the older son in Egyptian is called Khebeded, meaning 'Disfavoured', fitting as the Blessing of Firstborn was given to Joseph's younger son by Jacob. Khebeded also finds mention in the monumental inscriptions at Serabit El-Khadim. It's suggested that Joseph himself, having become obviously well-versed in Egyptian, is the one who devised the far more accessible Alphabet for the sake of his people once they came to Egypt, or perhaps his sons.
Famine and efforts to avert it are to be found, the Bahr Yusuf dating to this time also, which diverted water from the Nile to an artificial lake to drain excess Flood waters. (The Nile overflooding would lead to loss of crops).
A royal Egyptian palace was found at Avaris/Tell ed-Dab'a/Ancient Goshen built over a Syrian style house originally built on virgin land, where Syro-Palestinian Shepherder people had settled, not more than 100, with their Syrian livestock. The Garden Tomb had 12 main chapel crypts, the most prominent capped with a small pyramid, in which a 2wice life-size mortuary statue was found smashed by haters of this man after the Semitic population there had left with his mummified remains, while the other tombs had bodies in them still. The statue depicted a fair-skinned Semitic figure of prominence, with a colourful, long, striped robe, red hair and a throwstick, symbolizing a foreigner with power in Egypt.
This evidence agrees with the Biblical description of Joseph coming to power, bringing his relatives and their goods into Goshen, his 11 brothers, his father, (and more evidence I won't go into much more) the Semites' prospering in wealth and number, then falling into impoverishment and slavery, and a sharp reduction in the male population, Egyptian slave lists with scores of Biblical Israelite names, onesuch being Shiphrah, mentioned in the early Exodus account as one of the Hebrew Midwives who wouldn't consent to killing the male children at Pharaoh's order. I believe this is the Leiden Papyrus.
Joseph's Egyptian name Zaphenath-Paaneah finds an Egyptian counterpart in Zat en Af pa'onekh, which means 'He Who is called Life', Ankhu a fitting hypocoristicon like Siisau for Ri'amasisau (Rameses) or Pul for Tiglath-Pileser.
I highly recommend checking out David Rohl's documentaries on the subject as well as those 1st 2 Patterns of evidence films.
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