Why the Premier League may buy the EFL to protect themselves from a European Super League

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  • čas přidán 17. 07. 2023
  • Continued investment in to the English football leagues has already brought about great change. However, it is US investment and the gorowth of the game in America that will be the game changer. A European Super League lurks on the horizon, the Premier League has just acquired international rights to the FA Cup and celebrities such as Ryan Reynolds and Stormzy are investing in lower league teams. The Premier League and EPL teams ability to become media outlets (Wrexham, Arsenal Fan TV etc) will become increasingly key to long term growth and continued investment.
    This is a deep dive in to what this is likely to mean for the game and how English football, despite being a dominant force, will have to adapt to fend off projects such as a european super league.
    This piece touches on strategy, initiatives and insights from people such as Todd Boehly, Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney, Ben Foster and Stefan Szymanski and football clubs such as Leeds United, Manchester Utd, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Arsenal and Wrexham FC.

Komentáře • 80

  • @marcharter839
    @marcharter839 Před 9 měsíci +17

    As an American, promotion and relegation is what sparked my interest in football (soccer in the states) some years ago. Most Americans only play football at a very young age (I'm 30, so you understand my age generation) mainly due the physical nature in American football. Then as my generation got older, we played American football, basketball or baseball. Football is very expensive to play after grade school. American football, basketball and baseball are not. This is slowly changing and our younger generation tend to really enjoy football. I see a battle between the MLS and Premier League to capture this new/younger generation of Americans. I hope is promotion and relegation is not lost as the NFL use to be my favorite thing to watch, but if you're the worst team in the NFL then you get rewarded (via the NFL draft). I am now a football junky. I am a Leeds United supporter for life as they have long been my favorite team over my former favorite American team. MOT!

    • @ballboy1982
      @ballboy1982  Před 9 měsíci +4

      MLS is going to be an interesting one to keep an eye on…

    • @boobosao
      @boobosao Před 7 měsíci

      Interesting how football is expensive in US, why is that? Where i live its the basically free option for everyone whos parents dont have enough money for hockey gear

    • @gregorybiestek3431
      @gregorybiestek3431 Před 6 měsíci

      @@boobosao That is because in the USA the model used in the rest of the world of academies is mostly illegal. In the USA kids wishing to learn how to play soccer/football must pay thousands of dollars per year (Pay-to-Play). Academies by professional teams need very special teaching exemptions from standard US law. It is ILLEGAL for any child age 10-thru-16-year-old not to be in a regular middle/high school or school certified home program. This stems from the high number of dropouts/ school truancy issues in 1980s & 1990s. A youth program like those in Europe would shut down, those in charge might be arrested, and the parents fine up to $1,500 with the possibility of having their kids taken away from them. Therefore, US sport academies cost a LOT of money to operate to meet the school standards. No one in the US is going to pay for a bunch of kids to attend without getting something in return - hence pay-to-play!

    • @gregorybiestek3431
      @gregorybiestek3431 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Promotion/Relegation is a solution to having too many soccer clubs for a given country/market. In the UK every tiny town of 5,000 people has a professional club which may be fine for them but is idiotic to think will be the case in the USA for at least 25 years. UK teams have travel 25 to 50 kilometers or at most 600 km. Meanwhile in the US teams have to travel 500 kilometers to their closest competitors and frequently up to 4,000 km. For example, in Division II USL Eastern Conference Detroit FC has to travel 1200 km to play Birmingham and 950 km to play Hartford. To play a team in California is 3,000 km away. Because of the small # of fans (tickets) & the lack of media $$ added to the costs of players, facilities, etc. plus the huge travel costs in the USA it makes NO financial sense for a promoted team that does not have any money to try & travel 3,000 km every week and not go bankrupt within two years. How long would EFL league teams stay in existence if they had to travel EVERY WEEK to Spain, Sweden, Greece & Poland? They wouldn’t. Perhaps in 25 years the US will have regional leagues each with 20+ teams & limited travel. Once that happens THEN we can talk about pro/rel.

    • @jamestyler12JT
      @jamestyler12JT Před 6 měsíci

      Surely it can’t be that expensive to buy a football and go to a local park? I mean obviously the youth set up is massively different but it’s not expensive to play football in America. I would pop down to my local 7/11 when I lived in SJ and find balls there. Playing it in a public park with crackheads cutting about wouldn’t be fun though.

  • @planetjanet3845
    @planetjanet3845 Před 9 měsíci +20

    The quote from Soccernomics about how ‘sporting success doesn't matter’ in US sports makes me cringe but it's really true, the only real competition is between individual athletes for a higher prominence in the league. The lack of a real incentive for a team to win is always at the back of the fan's mind, sapping enjoyment.

    • @matthewmeunier8031
      @matthewmeunier8031 Před 9 měsíci +5

      The flip aide is that any team can go from terrible to great in just a few years. Winning a championship is actually attainable for every single team.

    • @jasperlawrence5361
      @jasperlawrence5361 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Except it isn't, just ask the fans of Washington in the NFL. Or even Tampa, Cleveland or Houston, Dallas, etc., Tampa who share owners with ManU. Your owner determines whether you have a chance to win or not, and owners own for lifetimes and sometimes for generations. US sports are different as well because they are so insular, football (ours) is so valuable and interesting and has developed so much because it is Europe wide and the UEFA competitions became so valuable. I think they try to expand the PL brand into the Championship, and by doing that effectively halve the risk from relegation, while doubling the size of the product. Then close those two leagues off or make them into "Conferences" like in the NFL with each being equal in stature, and the winners of each conference playing each other to be champions.
      The Americans don't understand that some of the appeal is based on what they hate most. Hazard. @@matthewmeunier8031

    • @hezzyskeets
      @hezzyskeets Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@jasperlawrence5361All those teams except the Browns have been competitive for significant stretches throughout the years. The Bucs have even won 2 super bowls in the last 20 years. If you aren’t a fan of the top 10-15ish clubs in Europe (half of them being in England)….chances are you may never see your team play for anything more than avoiding relegation. An NFL fan will at least see their team play a playoff game or be a contender at some point.

    • @kalmenbarkin5708
      @kalmenbarkin5708 Před 6 měsíci

      @@jasperlawrence5361Tampa won a Super Bowl a couple of years ago.
      But look at the current great teams.
      Kansas City Cincinnati etc. and current garbage teams New York Giants Patriots etc.
      Great teams become bad and bad teams become good every single year. It didn’t happen to every team but it happens to one team just about every year

  • @inkymug
    @inkymug Před 6 měsíci +3

    Promotion and relegation is the soul of the sport. I can't imagine a league system without it in Europe. If it happens we as supporters have failed. By that I mean that if it happens it happens because people still watch the games and they still make money of it. The day it happens people should stop watching anymore, and give up their subscriptions etc.

    • @kalmenbarkin5708
      @kalmenbarkin5708 Před 6 měsíci

      But you wont tho. And they know you won’t

    • @inkymug
      @inkymug Před 6 měsíci

      @@kalmenbarkin5708 If they create a super league and i get to see real madrid play the same top teams over and over again with absolutely no risks of being bad, just like MLS, then I'm not watching anymore. But thats me.. and I know I'm probably in the small pool. There will be plenty thats going to watch it. Theres a reason I could never spend time watching MLS. Thats because no one ever gets relegated. Doesnt matter if you play bad all the time. You're stille going strong next year in the same competition.

  • @jacobfield4848
    @jacobfield4848 Před 10 měsíci +48

    I think the owners will try to remove relegation somehow. That is their aim.

    • @jasperlawrence5361
      @jasperlawrence5361 Před 9 měsíci +2

      What about they turn first the Championship into a parallel PL, then League 1 & 2 into "Championships" of PL1 and PL2, and then if they can four PLs, with the top teams from each League playing each other for the championship? Or some variation of the above?
      The FA Cup becomes a lot more valuable in that scenario and La Ligua, Ligue 1, Seria A and the Bundesliga become where the whipping boys in whatever UEFA competitions remain come from?

    • @johnrichmond.4783
      @johnrichmond.4783 Před 9 měsíci

      They already tried. They faced public humiliation and complete failure. If you try to assassinate the King or stage a coup, and you fail...you never get a second chance. America is ruled by a whole class of parasite billionaire financial manipulators. Health, politics, entertainment (Disney!), so called 'news', law and sport are all captured by this parasite class. No-where in the west is as backward as the United States. Chill.

    • @jamestyler12JT
      @jamestyler12JT Před 7 měsíci +8

      Getting rid of promotion and relegation would be the WORST thing and I hope it never happens. I doubt it will given how against the super league clubs were. But that was only 6, imagine all 92 not wanting it.

    • @gregorybiestek3431
      @gregorybiestek3431 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@jamestyler12JT The Europeans bitch at us constantly for not having pro/rel, etc., while the same time their leagues and clubs are drowning in debt and unable to afford anything. Meanwhile over here in the MLS, which is the same as the 2nd Tier of the biggest European Leagues, they pull in $1.55 Billion, has only a minuscule $500 million in debt, and owners that use private equity financing. In addition, we have a hard salary cap that limit player salaries to a manageable level. Our clubs are flourishing with club valuations now approaching those of the Premier League without having to worry about boom/bust. Whose way of structuring their league works financially better?

    • @jamestyler12JT
      @jamestyler12JT Před 6 měsíci

      @@gregorybiestek3431 this is about the premier league

  • @ltee1233
    @ltee1233 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Give this video a year and the algorithm will start pushing this like mad. Good video bro and I really hope my prediction is right

    • @ballboy1982
      @ballboy1982  Před 6 měsíci

      Thanks very much, much appreciated.

  • @D2trippy610
    @D2trippy610 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Really good vid bro
    One thing you should improve is audio but other than that good vid bro

  • @catl9282
    @catl9282 Před 9 měsíci +5

    really impressed on the quality, keep it up and good luck !

    • @ballboy1982
      @ballboy1982  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Cheers, thank you! Much appreciated.

    • @catl9282
      @catl9282 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@ballboy1982 Honestly u kinds have the right to ask for like and subscribe, the quality is really high for almost no recognition

  • @marksuminski814
    @marksuminski814 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Essential viewing for a top-down look at where the sport is tracked to go, great work!

  • @banticmusic
    @banticmusic Před 9 měsíci +3

    These people are trying hard for me to NOT watch the beautiful game.

  • @kalmenbarkin5708
    @kalmenbarkin5708 Před 6 měsíci +1

    MLS made the jump to DTC this past season and from all reports it seems to have been a success

    • @Dexter037S4
      @Dexter037S4 Před 6 měsíci

      They didn't go DTC, they sold the rights to Apple to put on AppleTV+

  • @Alan-mj2jx
    @Alan-mj2jx Před 9 měsíci +3

    Sport no more! Circus, Sepp Blatter
    set the tone, parasites
    a plenty.

  • @thomasjohnson2862
    @thomasjohnson2862 Před 4 měsíci

    So basically even though relegation is integral to our football “product”, and partly gives the Premier League value and prestige it has, the investors don’t like it because it threatens to significantly harm the value of their asset?

  • @sagarinaustraliavlogs2916
    @sagarinaustraliavlogs2916 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Good job-o

  • @AmazinJ89
    @AmazinJ89 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Really interesting video, great work

  • @nickylloyd8662
    @nickylloyd8662 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Interesting video. Very informative. It sounds like the beautiful game is going to be milked for all its worth. Don't think I like the way it's going and by the sound of it going to be hoping for the lesser of 2 evils moving forward.

    • @ballboy1982
      @ballboy1982  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Many thanks. I see Tom Brady has just taken a stake in Birmingham - more of the same to come I suspect.

  • @xh2633
    @xh2633 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Do you think the Premier League will buy the Women's Super league and try to make that big as well. I know Karen Carney said that Women's Football could be a billion pound industry in a decade. Also what about Celtic and Rangers? Do you think they will join the Premier League in the future?

    • @ballboy1982
      @ballboy1982  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Is an interesting one - particularly with the potential this has in The US...may play to the enjoyment of a wider social brand than an individual club that the woman's game already enjoys there.

  • @forestfan7974
    @forestfan7974 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Make Championship Premier League Division Two. Twenty-four teams with three up and three down. Give EPL2 30% of the TV revenue..

    • @ballboy1982
      @ballboy1982  Před 9 měsíci +2

      Be interesting to see how The EFL develops in the next couple of years when their current deal with Sky ends.

    • @totallybored5526
      @totallybored5526 Před 6 měsíci

      Nope, that sounds terrible on every level. The championship is already the league below the premier league and renaming it is ridiculous. And the Championship already has lots of money, is one of the most competitive leagues in the world. And the playoff final is one of the most financially beneficial 1 off game.

  • @jasperlawrence5361
    @jasperlawrence5361 Před 9 měsíci +1

    What about they turn first the Championship into a parallel PL, then League 1 & 2 into "Championships" of PL1 and PL2, and then if they can four PLs, with the top teams from each League playing each other for the championship? Or some variation of the above?
    The FA Cup becomes a lot more valuable in that scenario and La Ligua, Ligue 1, Seria A and the Bundesliga become where the whipping boys in whatever UEFA competitions remain come from?

    • @gregorybiestek3431
      @gregorybiestek3431 Před 6 měsíci

      If you want to see the disaster that promotion/relegation is causing in Europe, check out HITC Sevens recent video called "The Stupidest League in World Football”. In it he describes the collapse of the Italian leagues and the coming collapse of the English Champions League due to yo-yo clubs and unrestrained spending on players and how a hard cap (like the MLS) may be needed and some other possible changes. After all, the Mexican league just this last year was forced to give up pro/rel & adopt the American structure. Money is going to force that down everyone's throats in the next two decades.

  • @raphaelostrowski6336
    @raphaelostrowski6336 Před 7 měsíci

    I already stopped watching English league by how much of a super league it already is

  • @billba
    @billba Před 9 měsíci

    Speak with some enthusiasm

  • @arturlome7102
    @arturlome7102 Před 7 měsíci

    not a chance the Police could never handle it, England need to get out of the Union and send all the sweties home.

  • @joshualowthion
    @joshualowthion Před 9 měsíci +1

    Bring back the super league