TOP 5 tips to become a Master CNC Machine Programmer | DVF 5000 5 Axis Mill
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- Whether your programming with Mastercam or Solidworks here are the top 5 tips to become a master at CNC Machine Programming.
0:00 Intro
1:17 Tip 1 - Always Keep an Open Mind
3:10 Tip 2 - Learn and Understand All of the Variables
5:29 Tip 3 - Be Proactive Not Reactive
7:44 Tip 4 - Understand & Evaluate Tooling
9:30 Tip 5 - Learn How to Process a Part
10:54 Conclusion to Programming Tips
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If I go to work and didn't learn something new, I consider it a bad day. One thing I try to impress upon people is to try and see the physics involved in machining. Not necessarily to understand the math behind it but, understand the forces being applied.
Very true. If you don't learn something every day then that is a missed opportunity in my opinion
You just summed up what I learned in 40 + years in manufacturing. I wish someone told me this at year one! "The more I know the more I see how much I don't know." The one thing you left out, but the one thing that is obvious from what you do is to be enthusiastic and have fun, because nothing compares to how much fun this is.
You are exactly right Karlo. If you don't have passion and enthusiasm then it is really hard to gain any ground. Those are the two things you can't teach. You have to want it!
Ah the Dunning-Kruger effect, when you're just starting you have no idea how many ways there are to screw things up
Titan Gilroy and his remarkable team are indeed single handedly changing the game...Their knowledge, drive and passion are cutting edge and the beautiful part of all this is how much they've dedicated to support the community and give back through serious opportunities and knowledge transfer...Just look at how far they've come. Titan has been through so much so when he was ready to shine, there was just nothing stopping him to create such a legendary manufacturing community and business...He and his team deserve all the great success and great things in life! BOOM!
Thanks Ron,
I appreciate that more than you know. I feel so Blessed that I found my path and that path was to lift our team… so we could all lift up our entire industry.
Such an Honor to work with our team… and be in community with all of you.
Also,
Great Job Jessie😁
Every machinist needs to listen and watch your videos… you have incredible talent, a heart for our industry and speak truth:-)
Even when teaching people how to fix holes with ball bearings😂😂😂
Titan
@@TITANSofCNC Thank you Titan. It is truly an honor to be able to share what I have learned over the years on such a large stage. And yeah, it's even fun showing what NOT to do lol
They’ve legitimately inspired me and gave me my hunger back.
@@Jessie_Smith Hi Bro,... You guys inspire me a lot.!!
Can You guys do entry-level videos for CNC Router Guys?
This advanced multi-axis stuff is too much for us CNC Router Guys to digest..!
Please explain videos so that a basic 3-axis CNC User can enter in the world of multi-axis.
The TCP, DWO, Flip-side milling...etc
and
The WCS tilting and distance of tool when trunnion is tilted..!
These kinds of stuff confuse us a lot.
Can you explain these concepts with basic pocket operations using fusion360 and real machining setup?
Such a video will be highly helpful..!
I will watch all your videos ...its fun to watch
Amen dude!! I used to be pig headed and knew it all and i was so so wrong!! The way one shop does the same exact part is different from another shop... The thinking and engineering and thought process of different ppl make this possible and make this industry great!! Love y'all!!
Man I absolutely Love this video! I think every shop owner/programmer/Machinist needs to see this!!! Jessie you are the man!!! Best part is you can be 30 years in and you still have growth and learning to be had! A new guy asked me this just the other day at my shop, he says you know everything ah wow. I said exactly what Jessie said absolutely not!!!! I will be still learning when I’m 60 and close to the end of my career. I’m 20 years in and I have picked things up from the apprentice that’s in there 2nd year your never to good to learn something new!!!!
Wow Jesse. Great Video. I am one of those guys with a ton of years in the trade. Started machining in 1974. I started CNC machining and programming in 1998. I can honestly say that I think I am just getting started in My own learning process. I really appreciate what You shared and I know I have just learned something new from the content. Thank You for sharing
This is one of my favorite videos you guys have made. Nice job. I’m not a programmer yet but I learned a lot from this thank you.
You are a wonderful young man and the prospect of your teaching is simply priceless ❤
Being a beginner programmer this video is very helpful, thanks guys.
Videos like this are GREAT for guys like me that work in a 2 man shop. Being in a small shop you don't get exposed to new ideas
The best advice i ever learned was, no matter how “good” “experienced” you are, you can always learn something from someone who thinks different than you even if you have 30 years experience, and they have 1. Of course my old boss that told me this didn’t listen to my advice once I started to get good 😂
Excellent video Jessie!
1: Humble before you stumble
2: Keep an open mind.. the thing I most HATED hearing in the shop was “But we’ve always done things this way”
3: Be proactive, not reactive. Like you said, it takes patience and we can’t assume that everyone is programmed with the same knowledge/experience levels we have. When things do go south, it can be difficult not to light your fuse. I’ve been on both sides.
I agree. The last thing I ever want to hear is "we've always done it this way." That kills a creative mind
This is very good advice. If I had done all these things when I started out as an engineer, I would have been a much better engineer and much more successful. It took me until now to realize I had been approaching my projects and my work with the wrong mindset. I can not change the past, but I can change the future, so thank you for this. I am pretty optimistic about the future now
Wise words, one thing to add is that you can learn something from everyone. You might think a person isn't worth taking advise from because they arent as skilled as yourself BUT they may always look at something differently to you or know something you don't. Always listen and you may learn somthing you didn't expect.
Btw what's the picture framing method?
I once worked at a company where the programmer was a uni degree trained, a master with the cam software, but no idea that what he was doing was wrong from a machining point of view...now I am a programmer, any new job that is different or challenging , I take the drawing down and talk with the senior machinist on the machine and get their input, they know the machine, its condition and limitations.
yep! best tool is your ears! Working with the shop floor is absolutely critical. It's a wolf pack that you have to run with.😂
for some programming is a job, for others like this guy here it´s so much more. thanks for your advice, what you say counts for life as it self too! :)
The 5th point describes best how a machinist should build the experience upon, asking someone to understand the vision used adds to the overall knowledge.
These tips are great for many many professions!
Amazing piece of work. Learning how to be a machines operator myself. 10/10
Great tips you just machined a piece of art truly a master
The surface finish on the dog statue was much better than i thought it would be.
Thanks. It came out great, I was very pleased with it.
These videos are awesome. So much great information is handed out here. Thank you guys.
Thank you for watching. Glad you enjoyed it!
Wish my tech school thought the way your guys do, I spent my high-school career learning out-dated machine methods. Only 2 months of CNC work in my senior year... I was left behind in this industry from the start.
Mind you I graduated in 2014 with only 2 months of cnc work.
So good. Man i have a 3 axis industrial cnc table and i only work with wood, but this video was so valuable.
For jobshop stuff like this, It's all about being able to imagine how a part is going to be machined, For high volume production work, it's about being able to eliminate all the potential problems so you end up with the best method.
Great advice. Beautiful work. Much love and gratitude
Thank you!
Holy crap, that was amazing! (Great life advice too!)
Excellent advice Jesse! There are a few of the guys that you and I both worked with that refused to advance with the technology and are still stuck in 1986.
It definitely is frustrating. Especially when those people are the ones in positions of power and they won't let you innovate.
@@Jessie_Smith By the way I have never used a ball bearing to fix a hole before!!! LOL I'm joking of course! It works much better with threaded holes! 😂
I am stuck in a same position now .
Great video👍love this.
Much love to your Chanel, I can’t wait to meet you boss
Me too
So very true on all points. I love these clamps, what are they ?
Brilliant advice!
Great advice!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Nice Programming Skill for making prototype for casts of mass production lines
Wonderful insight...thank you so much. This kind of thinking is very similar for IT world in some ways. I wonder how many other skills would cross over? Got me thinking of another career change because why not...this looks like fun. You guys make it look so easy. Can old dogs learn new tricks?
I am a newbie in this field and wish to learn more from your academy.
That’s one pretty awesome sculpture…👍👍
Thank you .
truly words, saludos desde Argentina
"No one is as smart as all of us"
Just something I overhear one day and really liked it lol
Love this. I will be stealing it lol
See this is what im striving for. Ill be 24 soon and i work in a fab shop on a CNC 3 axis and ive ran all 3 of our machines in the span of 8 months total. I understand G and M codes, and i know the feeds and speeds for all the tooling and materials we run. ive watched Titans vid on how to manually code on the machine computer and im comfortable.
Thats the problem… im comfortable. Ive reached my full potential at this shop and its been only 8 months on CNC. I want to do complex parts with tight tolerances. I want titanium i want stainless metals not just A36 up to A514… i want yo learn more CAD programming but im unable to where im at. Wish we had more shops here so i could advance myself because i honestly dont think ive ever been this motivated in my life.
Great information!
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Hi! Jesse mentions the picture frame method in this video. Can anybody elaborate on that process? Thanks!
Would you guys share any secrets on machining T6 6061 to minimise warpage in the final part?
Please witch software do you use to generate the G code? Is it SOLIDWORKS or Catia v5 or which? Thanks
This guy literally teach us how to behave in life:)))
A highly detailed horse head/neck with veins and everything, would look amazing.
Nice video, congratulations!
Wonderful Awesome and super!
Solidcam 3D Imachining is from another world. Impressive
Cimatron eat this all days
I use iMachining 3D in SolidCAM every day, and you don't need to know anything about it as long as you understand tool regimes, it's really simplified operation
Thought this video was well put together good job 👍
We have the best editing team!
Wow amazing.😳
Any suggestions where I can learn the things in number 2?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge ( & your efforts in making this video!) ✨✨✨ I believe you have improved the knowledge base of everyone who sees this. ✨✨✨ You have made CZcams better & cooler! ✨ Thus adding more coolness to the entire *world* ✨ Thank you! ✨
Thank you for watching! I am glad you enjoyed the video!
Did you made model that part or some else did,and what software did you use ?
Excellent
Dude Number 3 for sure! You sometimes get these daredevil programmers that program on the risky side with minimal info on Setup sheet. I have no idea how much stock its leaving or what features its finishing. No tool Stick out info especially if its 5 Axis part. Its like they think we know exactly what the tool is gonna do.
How much where the machine sim files for verify? I have been wanting to use the simulation more but wasn't able to get them to buy it where I am at. Running a DMG CMX 50U
Problem is that a lot of bosses and shop owners doesn't understand a single word that you just said. I understand every word but can't have use of it. Only if I do it for my self. Like a lot of other guys unfortunately.
FanTitan topic , the International language is all the same , teach them young & a greatness can be created to understand Kinamatic change with your eyes closed.
My Japanese is the Kiazan . The Five elements of continuous improvement
Titan academy is leaps and bounds in the basic ingredient : passion
500K BEOY subs you all deserve IT
Thank you Sir
You have to love this job in order to do it properly. You need to get interested in learning it.
A good machinist is always willing to listen to ideas because the only time you stop learning in this trade is when you die.
Exactly!
Great vid.
My uncles started the machine shop I now manage. When they opened their doors 22 years ago I came to work for them working under the table. I had no formal machining education. Everything I know about machining was from applying everything Jessie talked about. #1 if you don't put the work in on your own time to get to the next level you aren't going to be much more than a glorified button pusher in this industry.
I've seen that example a hundred times. I go home after the bell and research a problem, many open that can of beer as soon as they get home and then complain when they don't get a raise.
Exactly! I have spent hundreds if not thousands of hours working from home, researching and even programming. I have spent thousands building my personal computer to be able to run CAD and CAM software at home just to get better or try new ideas I didn't have time to experiment with at work.
@@Jessie_Smith I was mentored by some old school machinists. Traditional toolpaths that were all programmed by hand and that's how I learned. The first ITMS I went to about 12 or so years ago was an eye opener. There's been no turning back since. My uncles are no longer the owners, which was a blessing in disguise. Now we have an investment banker with deep pockets and vision. Is it work if I'm having fun?
@@GrumpyMachinist Man I believe every machinist should have the opportunity to go to IMTS. If that show doesn't get you motivated then you are in the wrong trade!
really nice parts. which is better for the lathe, solid works or mastercan
Solidworks is primarily a CAD system used to make 3d models, prints and assemblies. You can however add CAM extensions to Solidworks to machine on a Turning or machining center. MasterCam is way more expensive but has more features. Also, MasterCam is harder to learn. I use Inventor Cam now and its cheaper than both and does what I need it to do for turning or milling.
I’ve been at a shop for 2 years now as a button pusher should I leave or keep grinding cuz I’ve really only learned how to do basic setups I really like the job but it could also be the shop ?
Great Video, what is the picture frame method?
Thank you. If you check out this video czcams.com/video/m-BFKCMAr1E/video.html it kind of shows what the picture frame method is. Instead of roughing the material completely on the outside of the part, you leave a "frame" of excess stock all the way around the part. You can leave some tabs spaced out so your part doesn't cut free from the material and finish the outside profile up to these tabs. Then you can flip it for op2 or just break the part away from the tabs and have a complete part. It is really great for things that are difficult to hold in any other way. I will try to do a more detailed video on it in the near future. It is a really good method to know. I hope this helps.
Thats so true
how are you guys cutting aluminum and not chip welding to the end mill on such long cuts without coolant ?
awesome stuff! can anyone chime in on the picture frame method??
hello! Tell me what program you are working in?
"It is the biggest unspoken compliment to another person to steal their working processes, procedures and thoughprocesses and enhance yourself with those acquired sets of skills"
Where you sell this piece? That’s nice.
... CAD and CAM in function and harmony.
What software would you recommend?
amazing
How do i go about getting started in this field ?
Picture frame method?
I went to a trade school for CNC Machining but I want to become a Programmer on Mastercam or Solidworks but everyone only wants a person with 10+ years of experience and I can't find someone willing to let me start with programming.
Which software have done programming.please can you tell me programming software..I want to learn software.which
Do you have some good ideas and good methods for checking the tool length and zero point,my worshop operators make a mistake about this two things often.
Could you clarify a little more? Do you want to just verify the tool length before it runs each part? and by zero point do you mean verify the work offset as well? is this for a 5 axis or 3 axis?
renishaw?... 🤔
please show all process making G-code in mastercam
Trade field is filled with prejudice of experienced people who are not willing to share and help others to grow and excel in Machining career.
With personal experience!!
Yup. Cause the younger people know everything and don't listen to experience
What is the picture frame method?
Jessie described it in an answer to the same question and linked to this: czcams.com/video/m-BFKCMAr1E/video.html
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Basically to shorten the whole video down in one sentence: Don't expect that you know everything only because you have experience
Exactly!
"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts." -Coach John Wooden
Sending this to the 4 knuckleheads that are our "programmers" at work....
Good idea😅
Hello Sir, my name is Anuj Giri And i am from india. i done my graduation in mechanical stream and after that i did certification in Autocad+Solidworks. Currently i am doing a job in designing but i want to learn complete programing of CNC,VMC and other machines and also explore other sides of mechanical stream. could you please help me in that like giving me a apprenticeship or something other through which i can join your workshop. Please reply me on this . Thankyou
Seeing the capabilities of chatgpt and in general ML. It's only a matter of time until most of the CNC programming will be done by a algorithm. That said, I wouldn't bother and invest time and money into a dying profession. Some get now mad and say that a experience blah blah blah, sure at the end human still control the machine, give input what to do etc. But the main point is that a machine can write the 1 day job in one minute, time is money as you say day in and out.
I would love to be the Sys Admin for this company
What cam program pleas say to me
I was CIA certified so if we sold a machine and needed to run military or defense parts I worked with the cad-cam people and ran the first parts before delivering the machines
We're can I get the pitbull made here, that I's amazing!!
Okay video one thing I'd like to point out how on one comment that was made how do you go to college and become a machinist? I have never come across a college grad that hit the floor running in any Machining practices manual or CNC?
To me I just don't want to be a good programmer I want to be able to get any software that's out there and be able to produce any kind of code that's what I like to be and that's what I've done Mastercam 10 -22 surf, cam ,parts maker, for Swiss Machining, AutoCAD,Gibbs, Mazak Mazatrol, let's never forget old school G code and M code!!!
At the machine!!
When your true machinist skills are put to the test ever moment!!!! In a shop no matter what is being produced Aerospace medical field oil field plastic industry and others!!!
The inconels and the titaniums of the world!!!!
Love it!!!!
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A cnc machined full sized keyboard in aluminum would be nice..
Some things I learned from my first job and first experience for CNC.
- DO NOT do what others do. Everyone programs and machines differently, if someone says you’re doing it wrong, tell em to fuck off but consider their idea. Never copy.
- fuck up. You’re bound to fuck up at some points even with 50 years experience like my co workers. BUT, do not use this as a reason to constantly break tools or parts if you’re not gonna learn from it.
- Take your time. Even if people are on your ass, telling you to speed the machine up or push the machine, they probably dont know the machine or how it works. Make sure every detail is how YOU want it. missing a decimal or a zero can break things or hurt others. You wont begin a genius, nor will you die one. Especially if you try to gain many years of experience in a year.
- You dont know it all. Like I said, everyone has a different method and different experiences. Someone may have a faster method, or more efficient way. A day you dont learn from your machine, is a day wasted. Go back to old programs, rewrite them, look at others’ programs, reconsider variables like tools or material.
For a little back story of me, I’m enrolled in a CNC school of ignorant teachers who say the most abhorrent and cursed shit sensical machinists would and have lost it over. I am also employed at a Magna plant with my father who was a Tool and Die designer, manufacturer, T&D solo business owner before 2008, and can run any machine you give him. Though, our coworkers like to play a system, and blame others for everything, sweet talking supervisors and lead hands. the Mill guy is the worst of the bunch, a narcissist and gets physically violent when he’s proven wrong or slightly upset, but he sweet talks management into believing he is a genius. He is 25 with 3 years experience, breaks tools everyday and makes the same mistakes over and over again, leaving the room a mess for the next shift and making stupid decisions for the CNC room, trying to own it. In a year I have learned way more than he ever has because I wasn’t outwardly ignorant or insecure. I’m glad my first CNC experience is with him, because I have an example of what I should avoid becoming.
Dude, how can I buy that dog you machined in this video??