You couldn't be more right about learning from listening to the pilots, i can remember my dad and his friends talking and telling stories about the things they did and it is not only extremely interesting but also alot of information, and sometimes its actually comical,and the good pilots dont mind saying when they make a mistake, thank you for these videos, it brings back alot of good memories
It’s crazy what u can learn from listening to pilots. When I first started loading the owner of the spraying company knew i wanted to become and crop duster and his 1 piece of advice was to shut up and just listen to the pilots. 😂
Make no mistake you have one cool job. So much has changed in ag aircraft with the coming of aircraft like Thrush and Air Tractor and turbine engines not to mention all the new avionics and electronics' I remember as a teenager flagging fields then came the wing mounted "flaggers" that dropped the little streamers. The cotton and peanut fields used to be full of them. I still love the sound of the old radial Pratt's but the sound of a "jet" is cool too. Cant imagine what it must feel like to push the throttle forward on a 1200 horse engine. I worked as a machinist fabricator in aerospace industry for 36 years and have made parts for everything that flies both fixed wing and helicopters both commercial and military. Even made some parts for the space shuttle program but I have NEVER FLOWN! Just retired two years ago. Maybe I'll but me a plane ticket and go somewhere one day. Stay safe Patrick and fly safe too. Enjoy your videos and mostly your explaning everything.
Happy to see another video with the cockpit audio! If you wanted to have the engine noise in there you can record the intercom to a recorder and have the camera's mic record the cabin/ engine noise and merge them in your editing software. I used a Sony ICD AX412 when I was flying and a dual female to male Y splitter
Your briefing about the industry and about the flying was excellent Patrick. One tweak I might make to calm the nerves a bit of those considering Ag is about your near the edge of the envelope comment. Yes, we are always fully loaded such that POH is not accurate enough. We base this load on experience with the last load and conditions. The flying, however, is safely based on the principles in "Stick and Rudder" rather than ACS. We use Wolfgang's "law of the roller coaster" in every turn. While certainly not acrobatic, we turn steeply more safely than most airplanes turn less steeply around the airport. We have the extra free energy of low ground effect, both on takeoff and in the field. We use that kinetic energy to both go up and maneuver safely until we have about used it up and then we use the potential energy of altitude to make the steep turn at near 1 g rather than pull on the stick in the turn. That kind of safe energy management does not exist in ACS. At Billy Howell's Ag Flight I taught flying first to zero timers so that they could survive long enough to make it to the spraying. So with a thousand energy management turns a day, Patrick, you have lost the very dangerous idea that we must pull on the stick and maintain altitude in turns. Again, a really good brief. Keep the sticky side down.
Thanks for the feedback Jimmy. That comment wasn’t necessarily talking about the turns. I am referring to the entire scope of what we do. Hauling an 8000lb load off of a 2000’ strip, flying under power lines, flying next to tree lines or power line poles with the wingtip just a few feet away, flying daylight until dark for 30 days straight, landing on tiny short strips towards the truck, landing and taking off with tailwinds, putting out fertilizer with the winds 30mph or more, ect. This job is brutal and we do things that most pilots would never consider. People considering this industry should definitely be nervous and approach this type of flying with extreme caution.
Right meow..... awesome insight Pat - my Dad (retired) flew everything from Snows, Airtruks, Thrushes, and all the AT models. Retired many years ago on the AT802A while firebombing in Australia
Man I would love to fly an Airtruck someday! I have run into several Ozzie pilots over here working during their off season and they’ve all told me it is a very interesting airplane to fly. I would definitely be interested in coming over to Australia to work if the opportunity presents. If you know someone I could contact about working in Australia shoot me an email!
Morning, Patrick - Sure glad I found your channel, fascinating stuff and you earn every cent of your pay! I couldn't subscribe fast enough. I don't think I've ever seen the inside of one of these aircraft before. I read a bit on them, and learned that there is even a militarized version. Anyhow, thanks for taking the time putting these together for the rest of us. Stay safe, young man - God be with you always...
Loaded C Model Frakes a couple of seasons back in the day. 80% rice. Lots of pushing urea to the front of the hopper. That 10 gallon Stam work with short ferry’s is hard work, long hours and short pay. Good memories.
I worked on a neonatal transport team based at the Univ of MS in Jackson. We flew up into the MS delta quite often to bring premature infants back to the ICU. Since it was a life flight operation we always used a twin with 2 pilots. The only time I ever really saw them get nervous was when we were flying into airports with high crop duster activity in the area.
I can understand why they would be nervous. Everyone I fly with around here except two planes have radios and we all use them. However I have been in area where nobody uses a radio and it is stressful for us as well.
When I was a kid I used to spend a lot of time out at my grand parents farm. The field next to them was always getting sprayed. I used to run over to the fence and watch while the pilot did his thing Sooo damn cool.
Have the boys RainX the windscreen. All panels. Works great and only takes them a cpl minutes to apply. Lifesaver when you’re caught out 😅 Wheels up bro!
It’s 2024, get with the times bro “Yes, Rain-X Plastic Water Repellent can be used on Lexan. It's designed to work on a variety of plastics, including Lexan, Plexiglas, Perspex, Lucite, acrylics, and polycarbonate.” I’m a pilot and have used it and I’d never recommend something dangerous. So no matter what he’s currently got for windscreens rainx has a product. We can assume that smart people, like pilots, would figure this out.
A older poliot ran out of fuel spraying our fields and was like i knew i was cutting it close.. i asked what he needed for fuel. He said itd run on horse piss, so we gave him the next best thing red diesel. For once, it was literally used off-road.
Man, enjoyed the whole video! Haven’t seen anything like it. Curious what state you spray in? Your channel is gonna do great!! One suggestion, if you could ever get a helmet mounted camera for a good point of view. Clay Millican, top fuel driver in NHRA, has one mounted right at the top of his visor dead center. That would be an awesome view!
Yes I think some of them would be. I have time in type and also low level flying experience however I lack a few of the other requirements like mountain flying time. A lot of guys crossover to firefighting from agriculture and it is something I’ve thought about looking into.
You couldn't be more right about learning from listening to the pilots, i can remember my dad and his friends talking and telling stories about the things they did and it is not only extremely interesting but also alot of information, and sometimes its actually comical,and the good pilots dont mind saying when they make a mistake, thank you for these videos, it brings back alot of good memories
It’s crazy what u can learn from listening to pilots. When I first started loading the owner of the spraying company knew i wanted to become and crop duster and his 1 piece of advice was to shut up and just listen to the pilots. 😂
Make no mistake you have one cool job. So much has changed in ag aircraft with the coming of aircraft like Thrush and Air Tractor and turbine engines not to mention all the new avionics and electronics' I remember as a teenager flagging fields then came the wing mounted "flaggers" that dropped the little streamers. The cotton and peanut fields used to be full of them. I still love the sound of the old radial Pratt's but the sound of a "jet" is cool too. Cant imagine what it must feel like to push the throttle forward on a 1200 horse engine. I worked as a machinist fabricator in aerospace industry for 36 years and have made parts for everything that flies both fixed wing and helicopters both commercial and military. Even made some parts for the space shuttle program but I have NEVER FLOWN! Just retired two years ago. Maybe I'll but me a plane ticket and go somewhere one day. Stay safe Patrick and fly safe too. Enjoy your videos and mostly your explaning everything.
Go get on a plane! Better yet, take flying lessons! Maybe don’t get on a space shuttle but definitely get up in the air somehow, some way!
For his first flight, he'd better get in the plane and not on it. I was envisioning another red bull commerical. Lol @pcohen85
Patrick, always announce your intentions. What you are doing is expecting everyone else to announce their own.
Not true. I have been flying around people without radios for 12 years and I don’t expect anyone to announce anything. I use my eyeballs.
Happy to see another video with the cockpit audio!
If you wanted to have the engine noise in there you can record the intercom to a recorder and have the camera's mic record the cabin/ engine noise and merge them in your editing software. I used a Sony ICD AX412 when I was flying and a dual female to male Y splitter
Dead right.. The application is the job, the plane is the tool...A damn cool tool it is 👍
I live vicariously through you. Gracias amigo.
Your briefing about the industry and about the flying was excellent Patrick. One tweak I might make to calm the nerves a bit of those considering Ag is about your near the edge of the envelope comment. Yes, we are always fully loaded such that POH is not accurate enough. We base this load on experience with the last load and conditions. The flying, however, is safely based on the principles in "Stick and Rudder" rather than ACS. We use Wolfgang's "law of the roller coaster" in every turn. While certainly not acrobatic, we turn steeply more safely than most airplanes turn less steeply around the airport. We have the extra free energy of low ground effect, both on takeoff and in the field. We use that kinetic energy to both go up and maneuver safely until we have about used it up and then we use the potential energy of altitude to make the steep turn at near 1 g rather than pull on the stick in the turn. That kind of safe energy management does not exist in ACS. At Billy Howell's Ag Flight I taught flying first to zero timers so that they could survive long enough to make it to the spraying. So with a thousand energy management turns a day, Patrick, you have lost the very dangerous idea that we must pull on the stick and maintain altitude in turns. Again, a really good brief. Keep the sticky side down.
Thanks for the feedback Jimmy. That comment wasn’t necessarily talking about the turns. I am referring to the entire scope of what we do. Hauling an 8000lb load off of a 2000’ strip, flying under power lines, flying next to tree lines or power line poles with the wingtip just a few feet away, flying daylight until dark for 30 days straight, landing on tiny short strips towards the truck, landing and taking off with tailwinds, putting out fertilizer with the winds 30mph or more, ect. This job is brutal and we do things that most pilots would never consider. People considering this industry should definitely be nervous and approach this type of flying with extreme caution.
You guys are something else with balls of brass!!!
Really enjoying the videos and you do a great job explaining what's going on. Thanks for sharing the videos and stay safe brother.
Right meow..... awesome insight Pat - my Dad (retired) flew everything from Snows, Airtruks, Thrushes, and all the AT models. Retired many years ago on the AT802A while firebombing in Australia
Man I would love to fly an Airtruck someday! I have run into several Ozzie pilots over here working during their off season and they’ve all told me it is a very interesting airplane to fly. I would definitely be interested in coming over to Australia to work if the opportunity presents. If you know someone I could contact about working in Australia shoot me an email!
I just retired flying a Pilatus Air Ambulance, great job, but the hours were killing me. You have a great job!
Thanks for the ride-along……
Morning, Patrick -
Sure glad I found your channel, fascinating stuff and you earn every cent of your pay!
I couldn't subscribe fast enough.
I don't think I've ever seen the inside of one of these aircraft before. I read a bit on them, and learned that there is even a militarized version.
Anyhow, thanks for taking the time putting these together for the rest of us.
Stay safe, young man - God be with you always...
I really enjoy your Channel
Enjoy all your videos from central Fl.
Loaded C Model Frakes a couple of seasons back in the day. 80% rice. Lots of pushing urea to the front of the hopper. That 10 gallon Stam work with short ferry’s is hard work, long hours and short pay. Good memories.
I worked on a neonatal transport team based at the Univ of MS in Jackson. We flew up into the MS delta quite often to bring premature infants back to the ICU. Since it was a life flight operation we always used a twin with 2 pilots. The only time I ever really saw them get nervous was when we were flying into airports with high crop duster activity in the area.
I can understand why they would be nervous. Everyone I fly with around here except two planes have radios and we all use them. However I have been in area where nobody uses a radio and it is stressful for us as well.
When I was a kid I used to spend a lot of time out at my grand parents farm. The field next to them was always getting sprayed. I used to run over to the fence and watch while the pilot did his thing Sooo damn cool.
Have the boys RainX the windscreen. All panels. Works great and only takes them a cpl minutes to apply. Lifesaver when you’re caught out 😅
Wheels up bro!
Shhhh no rain X unless they’re glass windshields. It can/will damage plastic windows. Little pledge never hurt tho
It’s 2024, get with the times bro “Yes, Rain-X Plastic Water Repellent can be used on Lexan. It's designed to work on a variety of plastics, including Lexan, Plexiglas, Perspex, Lucite, acrylics, and polycarbonate.”
I’m a pilot and have used it and I’d never recommend something dangerous. So no matter what he’s currently got for windscreens rainx has a product. We can assume that smart people, like pilots, would figure this out.
@@thomaskrutulis2289smart pilots don’t “assume” anything……
A older poliot ran out of fuel spraying our fields and was like i knew i was cutting it close.. i asked what he needed for fuel. He said itd run on horse piss, so we gave him the next best thing red diesel. For once, it was literally used off-road.
Now ! That's Damm impressive ! 👏
Man, enjoyed the whole video! Haven’t seen anything like it. Curious what state you spray in? Your channel is gonna do great!! One suggestion, if you could ever get a helmet mounted camera for a good point of view. Clay Millican, top fuel driver in NHRA, has one mounted right at the top of his visor dead center. That would be an awesome view!
where do you fly from...used to work as a loader boy during HS (30 yrs ago)and still love to watch cropdusters
How do you know how far to get over each pass so you won't spray the same area?? Love your channel!!
these video's are awesome
Careful of priming booms over random fields even with insecticide. Could be an organic farmer lol
That field was farmed by the same guy. Also it was cotton and organic food crop also gets sprayed with pesticides, haha.
great video
What is the registration of your aircraft? I might have seen it in North Carolina flying at 775 ft over a field
“Man drops chem trails on unsuspecting cotton plants”
I would have 1m views if I’d made that the title haha
“Right meow” You watch Saltycracker?
WOW!
Amazing stuff, I'm nervous watching hahahaha.
21:24 🤣👏🏾
Patrick - would your skills be translatable to fire fighting out west?
Yes I think some of them would be. I have time in type and also low level flying experience however I lack a few of the other requirements like mountain flying time. A lot of guys crossover to firefighting from agriculture and it is something I’ve thought about looking into.
Are you in the bootheel Mo area?
Not anymore. I am back in Arkansas now but close to the bootheel and we still do some work across the state lines.
Maybe you need to get a real helmet like a Gentex.
I have two Gentex helmets.
Are you at the airport on 120
Yep
@@pcohen85 Yep yeah fly across my house just about everyday just North of the phone Tower in Luxora